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I read in the paper the BBC are thinking of removing the free television licence for the over 75s. The government has washed their hands of it and are leaving it to the BBC. It is suggested they will recruit well known names to try and persuade people to contribute to the cost. Names such as Helen Mirren and Terry Wogan have been mentioned. I would imagine such folk would have no problem paying the full amount of a licence unlike most over 75s certainly in our neck of the woods. The state pension in this country is one of the worst in Europe and on top of that the older of our pensioners will not get the new higher rate when that comes in in April. To add insult to injury I see the BBC has given the Great British Bake Off judges a rise of £100,000 each. As they are already reputed to be on £500,000 I fail to see why this rise is necessary and how the BBC can justify such things at the same time as asking the old folk to cough up for a licence. What do others think?

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It dont shock me, and if they get someone like Wogan, that aint a shock either,I am well aware what charity he claimed expenses from, so if they pay him its no contest:rolleyes:

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The Brussels Bullshtting Co-operative, needs to wind there collective necks in! If they#Re wanting to save money they should start on their own doorstep by cutting the directors & their crony mates salaries first, then their over rated "stars" & finally their bloated, box ticking, equalities & minorities unnecessary staffing numbers.

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As I understand this it's not the BBC that are thinking of ending the free tv licence for the over 75's it's the government that are cutting the funding. Historically, the government has met the cost of free licence fees for over-75s, transferring the money to the BBC annually.

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maybe they need the extra cash to pay off all their rape victims ?

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They are asking well off pensioners to contribute.
Good luck with that one.
Some people think there are a lot of rich pensioners......British pensioners are less well off than any other pensioners the the developed world.

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as you say good luck with that one. takes be back to school trips when well off parent were asked to subsidize the less fortunate.
whats the next target (Bus Passes?)

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You are right Accybeme The government has shifted the responsibility to the BBC so that when the licence for over 75s is no longer free they can just say 'Nothing to do with us.'
They know they would loose votes if they were seen as the baddies.

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The BBC do not cater for the over 75's anyway.....well unless you count repeats.....and most of the over 75's have seen these so many times they know the words off by heart.
It is time the TV licence was scrapped anyway and the BBC started looking at how they spend the money coming in.
I do not think they provide value for money.

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Me neither. Why on earth they need umpteen 'pundits' talking about football matches I don't know and some of the programmes they make abroad cost the earth. There is one that started last night which supposedly similar to the Marigold Hotel film. Looks more like a free holiday for them to me not that I watched it. I don't have a problem with programmes such as David Attenborough makes but many of todays programmes are a complete waste of money.

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That is spot on, the Beeb has had an easy life, yes there have been some wonderful prog's from this stable, however most seem to be repeated on Dave & gold, never cutting the cost of the licence just making more from repeat fees for whom?

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Maybe when we get the demand for the licence we should tell them that we already paid for the crud they are churning out...way back in 1976.
Yes they have made some fine programs in the past, but no corporation can rest on what it did back then.
We have all had to look at how we budget and the BBC needs to be doing the same.

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bbc is outdated and long past its sell by date

with all the scandal associated with the company it should be left to fend for its self with no backing from government , law or the courts what so ever and if they fail to deliver a product people want then they should be left to go bust and let them that can get the job done to carry on as they do

any shows that people enjoy from the bbc could easily jump ship to another station it happens all the time in america and theres plenty of channels a show can find a home if its wanted

its an absolute disgrace that the bbc is still allowed to operate the way it does .There is no place for it in the modern world of media

hundreds of channels in the UK yet only the BBC demands we pay them money

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Here's a bit of a coincidence, BBC are to stop transmitting BBC3 T.V. and have an 'online' service instead on the 16th February the very same day that a new channel 'W' starts up.

The strange thing is, BBC3 has up to present been repeating Eastenders at around 10pm O.K. that is no reason for the sane to watch BBC3, but it has been announced that the new channel 'W' will start transmitting Eastender repeats at 10pm Aren't the BBC lucky that some independent channel should start up and take over this crucial broadcasting to the nation, I wonder, how many other progs from BBC3 will W be getting?

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Your forgetting one thing that money collected is actually a licence to own a device that will received transmissions, what or where those transmissions come from has nowt to do with it, the fact that it is given to the BBC was decided Donkeys years ago, when all we had was steam radio, when the box in the corner arrived the fee was upped, and eventually the steam radio licience was dropped, I've now had the freebee for nigh on 10 years I seldom watch live TV other than the news at six, I don't think I've ever seen the end, its like a sleeping medicine. I record documentaries and such, and watch them when her indoors has gone to bed, other than that most of the stuff on the box is sh11te especially them so called soaps, I can't understand the mentallity of soap watchers, and their gullability in thinking its real.

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mm... it's not illegal to listen to DAB radio on a TV set or watch Catch up tv.
How the Dickens the Licencing Authorities police that is a mystery?

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without getting into it at length as its been covered in another thread you can own a tv that is capable of receiving tv transmissions without a TV license as long as you dont use it to receive live transmissions.Its up to the BBC to prove you are doing which they cant unless you admit to it or let them in to your home which you again do not have to do

a modern tv could be used as a monitor or to watch just dvd's or pre recorded shows and no license would be required

besides its a civil matter you can just slam the door in their face

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Topical this.
An error with the Global Positioning System (GPS) network has been blamed for causing problems with digital radio broadcasts last week.
BBC say "In a response to the reported issues, the outages were caused by a rogue GPS satellite (SVN23), which was taken out of service in the evening of 26 January."

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Here's where some of your licence money will end up.

BBC jobs reserved for diversity candidates | UK | News | Daily Express

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Fill your boots Ding...you must be in one of those groupings.

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You reckon?

"The opportunities will be limited to female candidates, those with disabilities and those from black, Asian or other ethnic minority backgrounds."

Seems I don't qualify for any of the above, unless you're classing "Scouser" as an ethnic minority?

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Ok ... looking for a black muslim woman in a wheelchair ... preferably a Special Olympian ... from Liverpool. Let's throw in a peanut allergy for good measure.

I personally don't think that blacks and women need all that much help these days. With a black in the White House (ok., millions of his countrymen look at him and see a nigger ... most of the rest of us see the President of the United States of America, one whose second term will be highly regarded by historians) ... sports millionaires like LeBron James, billionaire stars like Oprah and Samuel L. Jackson ... and Hilary Clinton, Con Rice, Michelle Howard ... add whoever you want ... things seem to be moving in the right direction without too much added help being required. Things could be better; but we've come a long way since Rosa Parks. Ok scousers are still an unsuccessful minority; but a good football team might help give them a boost.;) Muslims, too, are still sucking the hind-tit; but once they get out of the Middle Ages, things might improve. Only about 10 muslims have won a Nobel Prize, most of those the Peace Prize, the "Miss Congeniality" award.:D Jews and other infidels on the other hand .....

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That slavvers.

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Better to be half right than two thirds wrong, eh Ding?

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That would explain the drool on the application form.

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a sticking keyboard maybe...?
Forensics will let us know...
ewww..

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Taking a short break from doing the PC Limbo ... Isn't a TV licence a tad out of date. We've come a long way from Holme Moss, when the most exciting show was the train doing London to Brighton in four minutes ... musical interludes were cool, too ... and the test card.:D

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Certainly do;)

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BBC4* had 2 hour Christmas Special. A two hour reindeer pulled sleigh ride across the frozen wilderness of the Arctic. If I could spell soporific that's how I would describe it.

* That's me in trouble again another bloody acronym!

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BBC4* just had 2 hour Christmas Special. A two hour reindeer pulled sleigh ride across the frozen wilderness of the Arctic. If I could spell soporific that's how I would describe it.

* That's me in trouble again, another bloody acronym!

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My grandad ... the one who served in the East Lancs; I think I sent his pic ... bought a TV for my gran who was dying of cancer, in her own home of course. She really wanted to see TV. Unfortunately she died a week before Holme Moss started transmitting.

Our living room was packed for the '53 FA Cup final. Still can't figure why it's called the "Matthews Final" when Stan Mortensen had a hat trick.:confused:

Funny how nostalgia creeps up on one, now and again.

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How strange I've just been watching the crusades & then shipwreck for two hours on the same channel not a reindeer in sight.
Or is, 2 hour Christmas Special, code for something wacky?

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Oh for goodness sake.
Get over yourself. There are some acronyms that cannot be confused with anything else......when did you last see British Broadcasting Company 4 written out in full?
You would have to be from another planet not to know what this acronym meant.
It is those acronyms that could have multiple(and sometimes unsavoury) meanings which are unacceptable.
You know this, but you have had a couple of posts deleted(nothing to do with me,by the way)and now keep harping on the fact by pointing out you have used an acronym.
How very juvenile.

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Aging is inevitable, maturity a choice Margaret. ;)

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Well world wide web.Black Asian Babes.za have an entirely different meaning for BBC Margaret.
Oops the world has gone full circle, we are back to sticking keyboards.
ewww!

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So your choice is obvious then(as demonstrated by the 'sticking keyboard' comment)
As for the last post, it is of little relevance to those who frequent THIS forum, what BBC means to them. It does not affect them.

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Well done taken you less than 24 hours to get back to the dthep I've grown to loath, whatever your reason for putting yourself in a position of idiocy by forcing your acronyms upon us, I hope you get what you deserve.

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Does that mean that we can no longer refer to the FA Cup?;)

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Eric, I think you could ask Mick that one.
For me The FA bit denotes Football Association, but for it others it may mean something entirely different. I think that if you used FA without following this with 'cup' then you would get censured, but this acronym is in common usage and most people(you included) know exactly what this means....There is no ambiguity. The problems arise when other meanings are ascribed to acronyms..... Especially those that can be seen to be rude, lewd or otherwise derogatory and insulting.

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You mean that if I say "the FA Cup is no longer what it used to be; it is now FA" I risk censure.:eek:

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possibly, unless you clarified the FA bit as being flipping awful.
But I reckon you are being a bit pedantic.
The rules are there to be interpreted by the moderators, not by me.....we are expected to accept the decision of the moderator, we are not supposed to question the decisions made by the moderator......in the main the moderators only intervene when they have to.
I think that they believe we can( to some degree) self moderate.
Life is full of rules.

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Noted then disregarded, if you're happy with that then jog on. Oh, and don't forget your shovel either.

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Anyway, even if the FA cup is televised, the licence fee is still daylight robbery(just to get back on thread).
If Auntie Beeb can't make a do then she should stop sending these so called celebs to India to see what retirement is like there.......and she definitely should not be paying to bring these folk back.

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Great smilie/emoticon Ding, I assume it's you excavating your nasal cavity and beyond, explains a lot.
Just remember what Ignatz Semmelweis's studies teach us. ;)

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Good heavens, is DinG giving birth?
Congratulations in order?

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Blimey Less "loath" assuming you missed the "e" out...loathe that's a bit strong.

I love you.
In fact I hear voices, I have to love you.

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See, there you go again DtP, jumping to conclusions, deary deary me, there's no helping some folk. :rolleyes:

All news to me Gordon, no buns in any ovens I'm aware of. :)

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Not pedantic, certainly not gradgrindesque;) ... if it's anything, it's Carlinesque. In his "7 Words ... " skit, he talks about something vaguely similar. As in, "It's ok to prick your finger; but not ok to .... ":D Self-moderating should work on a forum like this. In the same way that communities, streets, and neighborhoods were self-governing back when I was a nipper.

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I think F.A will be ok as long as it is bitter or sour F.A

Sweet F.A may not be palatable :D

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So.... you were saying something about the TV licence?

We never used blooming acronyms in the RAF!

/me runs & hides behind the big OT sign.

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I could claim auto correct was at fault there but I'm loath to do that.

Loathe isn't even strong enough,

I can believe you hear voices, I doubt very much that you pay attention to them though, after all, the only thing they would be repeating to you would be, "shut up".

I could stand you in small doses, but then, small doses of anything as poisonous as you is all that anyone could stand.

I know it isn't anything personal, you are just as nasty and condescending to other members of the site, we should be grateful that you exist just to make our lives more worthy than they would be if you didn't come on to show us how marvellous you think you are.

Now then, enough of my hero worship, would it be possible for us to get on with our conversations without you interrupting? If you could just do that it would prove you to be the superior being you try to convince us of.

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Odd bodkins!! let's not forget the signature on here of one august member.Think "But grandma what big teeth you have"

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That should be 'Odds bodkins'.
Euphemisms for 'God's body'.

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Nope..wrong again Gordo..
You obviously haven't read any of those copies of the San Francisco Chronicle held in the Reference Section of the Accrington Library.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co...of_Odd_Bodkins

Here's a badge for you matey. ;)

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You did not make it clear in the post that quoted 'Odd Bodkins' that you were referring to any publication.
So Gordon was, in essence, right.


Why would Gordon want to read such a publication.....and would he even know it existed?
If you are referring to a particular publication, then this should be made clear by writing (perhaps) the full title and putting it into italics so that it is plain as to your meaning.
You seem to take pleasure in trying to belittle other forum members.
You have done it with Gordon, you have done it with Dave in Germany.
Do you really need to do this to make yourself feel superior.
If you do,then you need to find a better way of finding self fulfilment.

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More than one euphemism? And as not too many folks believe in the Third Commandment any more, maybe we should call it "archaic." Except for conservative (not as in "tory";) ) fundamentalist muslims, or American born again weirdos, not too many take blasphemy all that seriously any more, or are even sure what "blasphemy" is.

Maybe DtheP is attempting politeness. Euphemisms are most commonly used to avoid offending people. For example, you phone your bank. A recorded message comes on: "I'm sorry; I'm away from my desk right now. Please phone back. Your call is important to me." Now, isn't that better than: "I had to take a shiite. Call back when I'm done."?:rolleyes:

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The attempt(if it was such) at politeness missed the mark when the poster commented about the badge for Gordon......and when you look the badge is insulting and derogatory in that it calls Gordon'mediocre'.
Who died and left Dthep47 as King?
DtheP47 would not know politeness if it jumped up and bit him on the behind!

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Hey Eric gotta defend Gordo here it was only one apostrophe missing there.
Although he may want to plead ignorance and it would be a good defence.

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Again you cannot resist a dig against another forum member.

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Righty o Margaret taking your advice I'll do just that.
I'm outta here.

15:42 Iron Horse out of Dodge* to Colne and the Muni' Beer Festival.
They are sure to have the Stone Brewing Company's renowned "Arrogant Bastard Ale"and the Russia River Brewing Company's "Blind Pig IPA" on again. Maybe even "Yeastus Christ" too.
Should be a good night.

*Accy really, but Dodge sounds better :jimbo:

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He can't plead ignorance, you have the monopoly on that.

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Missing you alreadt(NOT).
I have a feeling that your absence will be very temporary.
Bad pennies and all that.

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I'm not sure it will temporary. He's got I am banned under his name.

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Oh well, he hadn't got that title when I made my post.

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No doubt we can await the first case of 'unfair dismissal' from a free to enter website.

After all, he is clever enough to start such a thing.

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It's permanent unless Mick decides to change it when he comes on in the morning.

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Retlaw, he was banned after his last post......which was about 15:20 yesterday.

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Right the ban is permanent so can we get back on topic TV licence thanks

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so about this TV lincence malarky

i suppose eddi izzard can afford one but what about people on lower income

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And again the Brussels Bullshtting Cooperative are putting things right (really) after it has come to light there's been some fakery :eek: (shock horror) by one of their producers, a certain Tuppence Stone (says it all really).

So to prevent such blatant fallaciousness as practised by Ms.Tuppence, all producers must undergo schooling in the appropriate procedures & standards expected by Auntie Beeb prior to their being allowed to produce.

That said, when one has attended said course, one assumes it will still be okay to fiddle the facts as one has ticked the appropriate box?

And that's why you should happily continue to pay your licence. (Yeah, right!)

BBC Ban Staff From Making Programs Until Theyve Learned Not to Fake Footage

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maybe they should also teach their news crew not to fake chemical attacks so we feel better about bombing other countries

mind you it will be hard to break a long established habit within the bbc the famous footage of lemmings jumping off a cliff to their death was indeed reporters literally throwing them over by the handfull as they couldnt wait around to see if lemmings really did commit suicide

lemmings do not commit suicide unless helped by the BBC

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I think you will find the false footage was in a film White Wilderness 1958 because Walt Disney doesney tell the truth.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wilderness_(film)

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ahhh that will be it

but the bbc definatly staged chemical attack aftermath footage in a hospital using actors as doctors

they first said napalm in the report then replaced the word digitally with chemical hoping no one would notice

they spent a lot of effort removing the proof from the internet but even the mighty bbc cant control the internet so it keeps popping back up lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p54hHhlLjRk

not conspiracey its fact just like its fact they have got away with countless acts of child abuse and cover up of child abuse

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So having a wander around that nice free system called the internet I came across this:-

No long-term future for BBC licence fee, MPs say - BBC News

O.K. it's a year old however what peaked my interest was a little paragraph

So, when they eventually get rid of the T.V. licence they intend to tax every household, regardless of whether they watch TV, or how they watch.

Isn't this putting a tax on the internet? Isn't this an unfair tax on anyone that not only doesn't watch T.V. but doesn't use the internet?

At the moment the internet is free to use everywhere, shouldn't it remain that way?

Along similar lines:-

BBC iPlayer loophole to be closed - but you can still legally watch TV and not pay the TV Licence fee

Strange isn't it? Over the years the BBC developed an excellent website at the cost of whom? Licence fee payers, now they want us to stop using it as a free service and start paying for it, maybe they shouldn't have used the licence fee to develop it in the first place?

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Less, they always come out on top.....regardless.
The best alternative would be to stop the BBC from broadcasting and tell them to make programs to sell to other broadcasters...That way if they failed to make any money it would be all down to them.
Many people already pay for TV......and much more than the current licence fee.
I do not believe that people who do not watch TV should have to pay a levy to support the BBC.

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Yes they do and they should be allowed the choice, pay for all the channels they are prepared to get from Sky or virgin or whomsoever and only IF they want the BBC should they have to contribute towards it's upkeep, not be forced by some archaic Licensing system to not be allowed to watch the rest if they don't want to pay for BBC.

However they will get the law changed, they will end up taxing the internet through the back door, they will put a finger up to the freedom to choose that should be allowed to us as a right.

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im pretty sure the man who invented the internet laid rules down before handing it over to the world for free that it had never to be charged for.Providing the service then fair enough but not the internet its self

memory is vague but im pretty sure bill gates got put in his place at one time by him because Microsoft were doing something against the terms of what he laid down and bill gates had to eat humble pie

wish i could remember the details but im sure a bunch of crooked MPs will find a way around anything if it means screwing the public

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After all the sex crime issues surrounding the BBC I wanted to withdraw my support and funding for them in the same way people did for the News of the World a few years ago. That caused the News of the World to shut down and I think the BBC would have as well if we weren't legally forced to support the BBC

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Think n apology is in order? yer talking sense.:D

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Don't strain yourself :P

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If you read the first link it does cover what you say in one paragraph, however the whole system should be stripped down and replaced, not just where they have been caught out.

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Well I like the BBC,better than all those adverts on the other channel, and a better quality of programme too

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only in the UK can you be forced to fund the countries largest pedophile ring by a succession of governments that have their own fair share of sexual deviants

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I think these folk are going to be pretty busy ...... :D

New BBC Complaints Site Launched to Hold Corporation's Pro-EU Bias to Account

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I suspect they will deserve the complaints they get, when has the Beeb ever discussed the unfair licencing laws that pay their wages?

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The BBC have always been disgustingly biased, I do watch it, only when i have no other option.

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a few years ago the bbc tried to get an internet licence created but it was refused in parliament

i said at the time the bbc would wait a while and dress it up with a different name and just wait for an even more corrupt goverrnment to let them have it

lets see what happens next

how dare these criminals demand we pay for a service we dont want while going unpunished for their own mass acts of fraud

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All this hysteria is all about having to pay a licence fee.Get past 75 like me and it's free Free FREE.

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Yes, but just because something is free does not mean you have to use it.
I am very selective in my viewing. himself would have the TV on all the time...even if he isn't watching. Me? I turn it off.
Some of the things I like to watch do not interest him and vice versa......I frequently watch stuff on my Ipad....Sky arts programs are very good. A wide range of music from Pink floyd to Puccini.

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That says it all.:rolleyes:

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one idea floating around was to add the fee to your service bill so you couldnt get out of paying it where your provider would add an amount on to each bill and hand it over to the bbc

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It's not hysteria, it's a discussion and anyone that is so stuck in the past as to think there is only one other channel deserves to get BBC free.[emoji1]

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If the BBC had ad breaks then there would be no need for TV license, other channels get their money from advertisements. However that would dramatically change the quality of BBC TV programs as they would have to be shorter to fit in the ad breaks. Imagine "Question Time" with ad breaks? However they could do that and perhaps have a subscription channel for those who want BBC with out breaks - or have the full programs on line as a large majority of people do watch on line or catch up - the days of everybody sitting down at the same time to watch the same program is becoming a thing of the past.

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or they could make the program longer i dont see why programs cant start at 9.10 for example its not as though anything bad will happen if a human sits in front of a tv to watch a program not starting bang on the hour

because of internet viewing of tv shows where adverts are cut out so we dont have to wait for the next segment tv stations are now putting adverts within the show its self like on someones t-shirt or billboard in the background

to me its product placement but it beats having 5 min breaks

adverts on the billboard fro example can be changed to suit whatever country or area its been broadcast in

this isnt an idea it actually happens now so theres no excuse for the tv license and the not advertising any more

im pretty sure BBC america has adverts anyway because america get the same shows as we do but dont pay for them like we have to

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Yes it does, the quality of the programmes doesn't seem to be affected either, when I was over there last Christmas it seemed to be none stop Dr. Who.
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Bbc is rubbish anyway, can't believe we have to pay to fund it, they should have adverts like the rest of the channels then it would be free?

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bbc have just recorded a drama covering the shannon mathews kidnap in yorkshire

how fitting they wasted license payers money on something about the abuse of a child

there is absolutely nothing they could hope to tell people that isnt already either fresh in peoples minds or easily obtained using google

i dont want to ruin the eneding for anyone but they find her hidden in a bed and her mum kidnapped her trying to obtain money from a ransom made by her boyfriend

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it wouldnt surprise me if the BBC tried telling America they have to have a tv license

the reason why i was unsure on adverts is because everything i watch has them cut out lol