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How would you tell someone you work with that they smell? Its a rather unpleasant mix of BO and sweaty feet. Putting a tactful bottle of deodorant in the staff loo hasn't helped, and its getting to the point where it really can't be tolerated anymore. They chap concerned has been warned on numerous occasions,he tidied hisself up for a week or so, then just goes right back to how he was before.
Any tactful way to do this before I have to go down the disciplinary route?

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Print this off & give them a copy, (I just didn't know I worked next to you, or I would have done something about it earlier.).

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We had the same problem at the last place I worked and even after he was sent home to get washed a week later the smell and untidiness was back. He was asked to resign or he would have been sacked and he went, I wonder if it's the same person ?

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If he's already been asked once and managed to clean himself up it's quite possible that he simply has no sense of smell and doesn't realise what an unpleasant experience it is to work with him. Perhaps if you start off by saying how much you appreciate the effort he made previously?

I can sympathise because we used to have a fairly regular visitor who whiffed so much the house smelled even after he'd left. In the end I ended up banning him (but not entirely for whiffy reasons). I can also sympathise with the whiffer because my feet are horrible and I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy :s_pooh: but they get a shower every morning!

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Ah well at least you know now Less.:p :D

The lad concerned is a very sensitive young man, thats what makes it so difficult. He seems to have very low self esteem, which he claims is the root of all his problems.:rolleyes:

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Then I would definitely start off by praising pervious efforts.

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How about an anonymous Xmas present of some nice smellies? Leave a few other bits around the office so he doesn't think its just him. Or get one of the lads to point out that the girls may come running if he made a bit of an effort(if he's single).

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just say to him "if i had a boogie hanging out of my nose as my mate i would want you to tell me or food stuck in my teeth" see wat his re-action is then just say well as your mate dont take offence but have you tried links deoderant its what my fella uses and it smells great it lasts all day as well if you have a shower before you put it on.

Thats what i would say dont make a big deal over it make it light hearted see how you go from there.

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Don't leave the deodorant in the toilet - put some on his desk!

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This is always a toughy, but the best approach is just to be honest. If you are his boss/supervisor start by praising his work and point out something that he does well. Go on to say that there has been a complaint from a client/customer about his personal hygiene (if this has been brought up before it shouldn't be a shock) Re-enforce the point that although he is a good worker, the company cannot tolerate poor personal hygiene standards. Ask if there's a problem, who does he live with? is he able to get his laundry done often enough? Is he living on his own and taking washing to his mothers once a month? People often smell because their clothes are worn, hung up without washing then worn again a few days later. Lastly, give him some Lynx...... I agree with Mummiboo, my cousin always wore it and he smelled great.:D

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The lad still lives at home. I really cannot believe that his parents let him leave the house looking and smelling like he does, but theres nowt as queer as folk.

I think I am going to break it to him gently, but emphasise that this really is his final warning before it gets taken further.

Thanks folks.:)

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Good luck Pixie. I really don't envy you the task, it's always a hard one is the personal hygiene talk.:)

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Thanks Lettie. Its one of those that no matter how many times you have done it is a horrible one to do. I mean no one likes to be told they smell bad do they?:(

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bar of soap.Give to him.Wish him a merry Xmas and say ' use it' end of story.Anybody can be dirty

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Bit of a toughy this one, the biggest task has been done, ie. you've told him about it.

Some people have a particular problem with BO, sometimes even with good hygiene some people suffer this problem and their collegues.

I can say that what may help a lot is a Thai deodorant stone to be used after washing/showering. This is a natural salts stone which is put under the tap for a few seconds then rubbed gently on the body, this kills the bacteria which causes the offending odour.

These are better than spraying chemicals with harmful propellants and are completely natural.

I sell these through my little company. They are around six pounds and will last possibly a year. They do work.

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Tried that once and cause one hell of a ruckes. The air was that thick a chain saw would have been useless. The person it was amed at took it so personal you would think his family had been beaten up. Gentley gentley is a better option unless you want an uneasy few weeks.

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Very difficult. I had this at one company, and it took straight talking to deal with the problem. Look at it this way - he may claim low self-esteem (which seems to be a useful excuse for everything from niffing to beating up old ladies), but he obviously doesn't care that he is making other people's working environment unpleasant. He has been told once, and did something about it, albeit for a short time. You may well have to bite the bullet and say "Look mate, you niff, and it is unpleasant for all of us. You must do something about it, or you may well lose your job". If he doesn't heed the warning, there's nothing more you can do except fire him.

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note the original question was asked nearly 12 months ago, surely it must be sorted by now!!!:rolleyes:

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I don't know, he smelt like sweaty feet at the last AccyWeb Meeting :D :D :D

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wow 12 months on must be rancid now!

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what about a general staff memo saying that the standards of hygiene needs to be kept high so to give the best impression to customers / clients and work mates, the guilty party will know its aimed at him but you wont feel as guilty!!!

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Now i dont think the guilty party would think it was them they would think it was someone else we have tried that one at work we held a meeting and this subject was addressed to everyone and it didnt make the slightest bit of difference, you have to be sensitive, firm, and to the point they might not like you afterwards but hey you wernt very close to start with.

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ok just to settle this thread

the guy who alegedly stank continued to have nasty comments made about him behind his back for a few months and then about 5-6 months ago an opportunity arose to have him moved to another GAME store which was a lot easier than actualy saying somthing to his face

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Is he still at the new store with a change in habits? Some people havnt the balls to say anything but if it is/was a medical codition then it was out with his control. An operation is available to sever the sweat gland nerves but thats a last resort.

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well its all over now and like mentioned before this thread is 12 months old

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I was once volunteered to tell a girl at school that her prescence caused irritation to everybody's nostrils. Had a quiet talk with her at break sat around a radiator which didn't help. Did work in this case.
Not relevant I know, suppose you have to be gentle at first Pixie to try and make him understand. Perhaps you could do as we do to children, put up a day-to-day 'smellie/cleanliness' chart' at his desk and give him marks out of 10. Start maybe with 0 and every day have a sniff to see if he has improved .. 8/10 might be the best you can achieve, but if it stays at 0 for 2 weeks then get rid !

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Failing that a fire hose.