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cashman

19-12-2016 16:23

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 1183408)

I can assure you I give as much credence to what is printed in newspapers as I do to anything you post on here.

From The Daily Torygraph:
Crematorium cross removed to avoid offending non-religious visitors - Telegraph
Councillor Ken Moss, who oversees Hyndburn cemeteries, said this reflected the increasing number of humanist and non-religious funerals held at the venue.

Yeh give Neil that much credence?:D

AccyMad

19-12-2016 17:00

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 1183377)

Sorry to say Margeret, but that money is for that project only, if they (council) tried to use it for anything else they would lose the lot.
No matter whose money it is, its better spent on us than given to them hords in france with the hands out gime gime gime, a good 90% are of military age, and should be fighting for better conditions where thay came from

So it's better to spend it on something that's neither wanted or needed than lose it? Surely that's just spending for spending's sake,bit like the stupid bus lane in Clayton!
And if it isn't allowed to be spent on anything other than the proposed town square project how on earth would it find it's way to the people in France, a totally unrelated & needless comment about the migrant community which imo has no place in a discussion about Accrington town centre

Less	19-12-2016 17:20

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1183392)

Ken Moss was the councillor who defended the council officers in the areas he is responsible for when they followed government guidelines and removed the cross. You won't find many councillors that will do that, I can think of a few that would have pushed all that blame onto officers doing their jobs correctly. Don't believe everything you read in the papers.

Seem to remember that although it was a guideline, Mr Moss put through the removal of the cross?

Neil	19-12-2016 17:27

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1183406)

So you reckon removing those trees in front of the Market Hall is using the money correctly Neil?

I don't know much about the details of that project and have only seen plans online. I would like to be able to see the magnificent building without trees in the way though.

We need trees, lots of them and I've been involved in projects to plant trees but they need to be in appropriate places. Horse Chestnut trees are not appropriate for that location. The are too big and too close to the building.

The plans include the planting of new trees in different locations.

Neil	19-12-2016 17:28

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183414)

Seem to remember that although it was a guideline, Mr Moss put through the removal of the cross?

Like I said before don't believe everything you read.

Less	19-12-2016 17:37

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1183417)

Like I said before don't believe everything you read.

Does that include the above?

Neil	19-12-2016 17:46

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1183410)

So it's better to spend it on something that's neither wanted or needed than lose it? Surely that's just spending for spending's sake,bit like the stupid bus lane in Clayton!

It must be wanted by someone because a group came up with the plans to be submitted to the lottery.

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Originally Posted by AccyMad (Post 1183410)

And if it isn't allowed to be spent on anything other than the proposed town square project how on earth would it find it's way to the people in France, a totally unrelated & needless comment about the migrant community which imo has no place in a discussion about Accrington town centre

The mind boggles on that one. I ignored it as a xenophobic comment but maybe it should have been deleted

Margaret Pilkington

19-12-2016 18:13

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I really don't see the point of removing two mature trees to replace them with less mature trees. As for being able to see the building, I think the trees add to the building rather than detract from it...and it isn't really such a beautiful building, it is a provincial market hall that has a bit of masonry decoration on it.
Trees soften the hard edges in towns and they are ever changing.
This tinkering around the edges of the town do nothing concrete to improve the place.
It is just throwing good money after bad....and it doesn't really matter that it isn't money from the council coffers...if it is just being spent because it is ther to be spent, but will not do anything ,other than a bit of top dressing, then it is pure folly.
That is just my opinion.(and I know it is worth very little)

accyman

20-12-2016 00:57

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1183414)

Seem to remember that although it was a guideline, Mr Moss put through the removal of the cross?

maybe he just likes taking wood down

maxthecollie

20-12-2016 16:34

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He will have a wood burner at home

Barrie Yates

20-12-2016 17:14

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1183356)

Yes, indeed. It is farcical.
But as mentioned in a previous post if you are asking yourself for permission, you are sure to get it. Success on a plate,nae bother.

What is dafter is that they will chop down two beautiful mature trees and replace these with striplings...at what cost.
They could leave the two horse chestnuts and save the money for the chopping down,the purchase and the planting of new trees...but it would not surprise me if(when it all comes out) that axing these trees is part of the T's and C's of getting the lottery funding.

Perhaps a certain person is looking for a good supply of fuel for his log burner?

Barrie Yates

20-12-2016 17:23

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1183416)

The are too big and too close to the building.

I hadn't realised you were an expert on arboreal matters.

Less	20-12-2016 17:26

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1183283)

Trees face chop in £3m town square plans - Accrington Observer
There you go Son...this tells you all about it.

As usual the 'we know best brigade' know best, IF, there had been folk complaining about the trees those that know best would have moved heaven and earth to ensure the trees stay where they are, giving all sorts of reasons why they must remain.

Lets face it, nobody gets out of their cars to take a closer look at the Market Hall, clear away the trees and they have even less reason to get out of their cars, (o.k. we've glanced at the market hall now let's head for a town where we can do some shopping, no need to park up).

cashman

20-12-2016 17:47

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1183461)

I hadn't realised you were an expert on arboreal matters.

seems an expert on everything.:rolleyes:

Neil	20-12-2016 19:14

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Instead of moaning about this work that other people have given up their own time to make happen why not get involved with the decision making process yourselves?

As usual very few want to help until the end and then many pop out of the woodwork to say it's all been done wrong.

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