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Corbyn would probably sit down with these people, cup of tea and a scone. The conversation might go something like this...where were you born?...where and when is the next Attack...can we talk about it. If Labour win this election and he becomes Prime Minister, we are all doomed.

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Corbyn will discuss no doubt at all, myself i would take the action Special Forces took in Northern Ireland in the 80s, say nowt n top em.

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If these men despise the western way of life so much then the door is open for them to leave.
They were raised in a country where they are free to practise their religion, they have been educated and had their health care provided.

They are craven cowards. If they really wanted to wage war then they should be taking themselves off to where they can be faced with other men who have similar intent...that is to kill indiscriminately.

To target people who do not know they are 'at war'...who are told that Islam is a religion of peace, and in the month of Ramadan too. It is like hitting sitting ducks.

I despise these cowards...these murderers, for that is what they are.
My admiration goes to those who pick up the pieces(literally), those who put their lives on the line...the police and fire service...and of course those who try to put the injured back together....nurses and medical staff.

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The time for sending prayers for victims is over it's time we took it into our own hands seens as the goverment will do nothing about it, anybody but UKIP in power after the GE will be a death sentence on the country

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Corbyn has come out with another DAZZA today, I do not believe in the shoot to kill policy. WHAT!!!

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Just listened to that stupid bitch Thornberry being interviewed, saying we should say nothing and do nothing, after Mays interview was put to her, anyone voting for this lot is a sandwich short of a picnic, it shouldn't be talked about today.she says.:rolleyes:

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He also wants to disband MI5 and armed police

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The labour London mayor Sadiq Khan says its part of living in a big city, so why does Tokyo who takes in no immigrants have 0 terrorism

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Sadiq Khan is Muslim.
What else is he going to say?
When all is said and done all the words in the world amount to nothing if people sit on their hands and do not root out these murderers.
The Muslim communities are complicit because they shield those who plot against the country.

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or is it japan doesn,t shove its nose into other countries problems like the yanks and us constantly do.

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It is very convenient to lay the blame on countries 'who shove their noses into other people's business' as you put it. It is a fallacy.
Belgium and the Nordic countries have not ( to my certain knowledge) been involved in any kind of military action, but yet they have been targeted.

Perhaps you agree with the rape and enslavement of the Yazidi people, or perhaps you feel that the capture of Christian schoolgirls by Boko Haram by Muslim men is justified.(and these girls were used as sexual slaves...only a small percentage have been returned to their families...with the babies that were born as a result of rape)

Muslims kill as many of their own people in these terror attacks( in the countries where the religion is mainly Muslim).
Might this be because they are brainwashed into a seventh century credo which is heavy on tribalism and light on democracy?
I am sure that you will enlighten me.

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List of Islamic Terror Attacks

The London attack does not yet appear on here.
But have a look through this list.
This is Islam...the religion of peace.

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Sweden dont either, so that nullifies that line of thought,

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There are a number of countries that have had no involvement in Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria which have been the target for Islamic atrocities - even Egypt where last week a bus load of children was attacked - of course that was because they were Coptic Christians, as was the truckload of workers - the very same people who gave Mohammed refuge from his own countrymen.
Quite a number of European capitals have not been attacked along with Tokyo - but not one of those countries will allow Muslims to take up residence in their country.
Suggest you do a little more research before you post statements like that.

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Poland have a strict immigration policy, 0 terror attacks, we need to crack down on them, either deport or lock up

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i dont often agree with graham jones but he claims he wants tougher anti terrorism laws etc but when the Labour party leader is a terrorist sympathizer and a coward how can a MP under him achieve anything because corbyn has a reputation for firing or removing anyone from the labour party who dares to disagree with him

with corbyn as PM and Sadiq khan as mayor of London it would be a duo more horrifying and more destructive than Mira Hindly and Ian Brady with the competence of Laurel and Hardy on a decorating job

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It is very easy to say that you want tougher anti terror laws...especially as the current leader of his party voted against every proposed law to deal with terror since 1983.
I will believe it when he puts forward ideas as to what tougher laws he would support...and I would applaud him if he could get the leader to subscribe to his ideas.

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Something needs doing quick, a race war is coming you can see it

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Sorry to be brutal folks, but no charity pop concert tonight in Manchester is going to stop the forces of religious hatred.
You can clap your hands to Robbie,Liam,Coldplay whoever, and it may make you feel better for a few minutes, but these attacks and hatred by Islamists aren't going to go away.
Hugging trees, snuggling up to a cuddly toy, telling everyone in earshot that you love them isn't going to change things.
I would much rather stand with 300 EDL supporters in Liverpool yesterday, than stand with 50,000 tonight at a pop concert.
This isn't pretend folks, its real, and we face the biggest danger to our country since the Germans came for us 75 years ago.
Stop burying your heads in the sand, the folk of Great Britain, and start doing something practical in fighting this threat.
Join patriot and nationalist street movements,political parties,take up self defence, organise your communities,sign petitions,hassle your councillors and MP's until they see sense.
It' time to get REAL.

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corby is saying what he thinks will get him elected he is nothing but a liar and a con man making promises he cant keep and betrayinghis life long held values to garnish votes from people who are fearfull after a few terrorist attacks.

i have no doubt what so ever that he will revert to his hug a terrorist ways the second he won an election

wouldnt be the first time the people especially around here were told one thing then another thing done once someone was elected would it

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Yesterday he said he did not agree with a 'shoot to kill' policy for terrorists.
There was an uproar, so today he said he didn't mean it.
He is the man who would encourage more of these people to come here, he would give them places to live, he would give them money to live off...and they would reward his'kindness' by murdering us.

Now, the government are finally saying that it is time to get tough on terrorists...but their 'tough' is still too soft and will do little other than making Muslims feel like they are being targeted.

There has to be an answer, however unpalatable that might be...the only other option is to have these murderers regularly slaughtering innocent people.
Tourists will stop coming to our cities and it will all be because no one has the cojones to step up and get these Muslim murderers out of our communities.
As to the Muslim communities...lots of platitudes but little in the way of action. Doesn't cut it for me.

I am not racist, I am not a xenophobic. I can live peaceably alongside my neighbours. I can tolerate people who come here for mutual benefits for both them and the country.
What I cannot stomach is people who have malicious intent towards the people of the country they (or their parents)chose to come to.

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Most people are not, but it suits the do-gooding pillocks to call people that,before they will ponder whats actually going on.:rolleyes:

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"Sticking noses in" may have some bearing on the situation, but the escalation of terrorist actions is in the main due to the backward degenerate mentality of some of its followers interpretation of their ideology (or so we keep getting told by the appeasers & "moderate" Mohammedans).

That & an ineffectual political class who disregard genuine concerns & complaints of the general populace. All this, aided & abetted by their apparatus in the form of law enforcement & judiciary encouraged by the howling baying creatures of antifa/soros' hope no soap etc & our so called lefty wankerati intelligentsia! These pigs should be equally accountable for these atrocities due their continued support, assistance & defence of those responsible for the acts of terrorist murder at present happening across western europe.

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I listened to the pop concert at the Old Trafford cricket ground last night in aid of the victims of the terrorist attack and I was mightily impressed. I am not normally one who listens to modern pop but the audience were obviously enjoying themselves and joining in with the songs. Most of the artists I had never heard of and the music was totally foreign to my ears but after a while I found myself humming along to the tunes and beginning to enjoy myself. As an old fart of 86 who usually loves classical music I began to wonder if music of any kind was the answer to the terrorists.Whilst we will never stop these people , with their warped values,we can at least show them that with music we can all counter their meaningless acts of depravity.The young folks showed the way last night and I for one was with them all the way. Well done to them all for standing up for British values.

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Only if applied Lt Col Bill Kilgore style, I mean its only fair, seems to be the only thing the savages respect is brutality & we can only defeat them using their own logic.

in case you aren't sure who Lt Col B Kilgore is, see below (and although he's a fictional character in reality through the ages there have been military commanders of equally hard brutality willing to do what's necessary)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqtehtSB0LI

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D in G, please don't take part of my remarks out of context, to try to prove some theory you have that terrorism will only be defeated by force alone.Music can be the rallying force as the youngsters showed at the concert, to beat these depraved people and starve them of the oxygen of cheap publicity , that their murderous actions tried to achieve.There is another way , a democratic way, to prove that millions of people like us can't be wrong, and that terrorism will never succeed.

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Not out of context Jim, your idea of music being of any use to defeat terrorist scum murdering innocents is about as effective as the wet liberal lefties ideas of hugging everyone, holding hands, laying candles, teddie bears & other tat while singing Kumbya at a sight of a massacre ........ yeah really! So how many mad mohammedans has that stopped?

The muslim bumper book of fun defines their attitudes & that attitude is that everything should succumb to their ways or be destroyed because mad mo said so! It's there plain to see if you care to browse through their book of fairy tales.

Look at any land where mohammedans are in the majority & governing & you wil see a brutal regime where there is no such thing as free will & as for diversity & equality your having a laugh! I'll give you 2 prime examples to ponder on about how brutality defines their nations Iraq (of which I have personal experience) & Libya.

The 1st was governed by Saddam, his family & cronies a brutal regime killing "their own" so if that's the contempt they have for their own kinsmen an outsider has absolutely no chance. The 2nd Libya, that nice chappie Gadaffi, brutalising all & sundry that weren't of his tribe, he was toppled & butchered for his sins to be replaced by what? A smooth running western style democracy .... my arse, the land is a seething mass of like minded tribes & despots all vying with various levels of murder & brutality to clamber to the top of the shyte heap & you think a bit of a karaoke sing-song is going to put things to rights do you Jim?

Well if that makes you feel happy & superior to knuckle dragging realists like me you crack on mate, but when ali abdul arsole is after slaughtering your family & friends you'd wish a knuckle dragger like me & my ilk would have been about to be "Nasty" to these people.

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The big mistake made, was thinking that you can introduce democracy to tribal minds.
Minds that are stuck in 7th century ideologies, but with 21st century technology.

The Muslims consider pop music to be the work of Satan...they don't much care for other music either.
Much of the western freedoms are considered to be evil too...so why do they come here.
What they would really like is to convert us all to their religion of peace(my eye).

Converting from Islam is punishable by death. Theft is treated by lopping off the 'food' hand...so you are marked out as someone who eats with the hand that cleans your behind...unfit for social company.
Adulterers are stoned to death...and the woman is always blamed.

There are so many barbarities they practise on their own clans...and to them it is how they live their lives.
Their religion is not an 'add on'...it is the reason for being.

The Koran teaches them not to make friends with non believers unless the non believer can be of benefit(financially, socially or in some other way).

I look at ALL Muslims with distrust. I wonder what malice they have in their hearts for me and my country.

This is an enemy which will be hard to defeat because they are here in our midst.
In a war, you usually know who,your enemy is...they wear a uniform, there is a 'theatre of war' a battleground.
In this case we cannot recognise our enemies by these means.
We can only look and see their colour, the way they dress(although that is no guarantee because for their killing sprees they dress like many western young men).

Is it any wonder that the police are noting a rise in hate crimes?
What about the hate crime of butchering innocent young girls and people on a night out?
It is like all racial issues...a one way street that favours the ethnic people rather than the indigent population.

There are northern towns where young Muslim males intimidate people who 'trespass' into their enclaves.
Do you think the police call this a hate crime? I can tell you that they don't.

It is time that radical action was taken, because if it isn't I can see people taking things into their own hands.

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Is it any wonder that the police are noting a rise in hate crimes?
What about the hate crime of butchering innocent young girls and people on a night out?
It is like all racial issues...a one way street that favours the ethnic people rather than the indigent population.

There are northern towns where young Muslim males intimidate people who 'trespass' into their enclaves.
Do you think the police call this a hate crime? I can tell you that they don't.

It is time that radical action was taken, because if it isn't I can see people taking things into their own hands.[/QUOTE]

careful you might be on someone,s watch list coming out with statements like you have. however what you state is the truth as i see it too. living over the other side of the hill things are just the same. these no go areas seem to get bigger as the years go on and its about time the police police em like everywhere else. funny how they managed to crush the miners years ago but the do gooders weren,t too bothered about it. i wonder why.

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I see in today's papers that over 130 Imams are refusing to recite prayers at the funerals of the three terrorists. If true, this is the first encouraging sign that I have seen that the general Muslim population are physically doing some good.
If future terrorists are being denied their virgins, maybe - just maybe, some would reconsider their actions.

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I say it as I see it Monkey Hanger.
I stand by every word I have posted.

I know people who trained with me who have patches in areas of Burnley and Nelson...these lasses are there to promote child health and well being, they go out to see pregnant women and visit new mums, yet they are intimidated by young Muslim males as they go about their work.
Their work is to ensure that the women in their community are looked after.
That cannot be right.
The police do nothing, (other than have a word with the imam)because they do not want to appear racist.

I have never felt so despairing of the way this country is heading.
I do not like the words I have posted. I am not racially prejudiced, I have worked alongside all races and creeds during my career.
I have spent almost 30 years of my life looking after women from these communities and rarely felt in danger.
Now I hate to go to Blackburn and other local towns because there are so many of these people about and I do not trust them anymore.
My feelings have been fostered by their attitudes to our way of life.
No one forces them to come here...no one forces them to stay.
I assume that they came for the freedoms this country affords, the tolerance.
Tolerance is a two way street...so far I can only see it going one way.

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Yes, that has been reported...and the body of the Manchester murderer is in a mortuary somewhere because no one wishes to deal with his remains.
130 is a start, but it won't be effective unless ALL imams do the same...and more.
The communities need to be handing these extremists in...and yes it has been reported that the community of the current attackers did this, nothing was done because no laws had been broken...perhaps it is time to have a different body to look after such reports, rather than the police.

The seed change needs to take place in their own communities...and not just in the Mosques.
The young men do not listen to the words of the imams, they do not speak the language of the young men.
This comes from Nazir Afzal(himself a Muslim) who was the Crown Prosecutor for the North West of England.
He was the man who looked again at the testimonies of the Abused girls in Rochdale, he was responsible for the convictions achieved in those cases.

It is not before time.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1195473

careful you might be on someone,s watch list coming out with statements like you have. however what you state is the truth as i see it too. living over the other side of the hill things are just the same. these no go areas seem to get bigger as the years go on and its about time the police police em like everywhere else. funny how they managed to crush the miners years ago but the do gooders weren,t too bothered about it. i wonder why.[/QUOTE]

If I am on someone's watch list, then so be it.
I am not inciting racial hatred....I am not telling people what to think. I am just expressing my views and opinions.

If it is alright for the likes of Anjem Choudary to avail himself of the 'freedom of speech' then I can also claim that right too...or perhaps I am the wrong colour.

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Well, I think you must be my twin sister, only you stayed in Accrington and I went to the North East of England. All your comments on the last two posts I would agree with.
This is still a free Country, well just, people should be able to comment on any issue, in the way they feel is right. As the old Bob Dylan song goes THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING.... HOPEFULLY

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I think there are a lot more who hold these views.
I was in town today and hade a conversation in a shop about my fears and worries...and the fact that I have not always held these views.
Two ladies(one a similar age to me and one much much younger expressed their views and they were very much in line with what I have posted....the younger one said that her little boy does not want to go on holiday (to Turkey) as he is afraid of being blown up. He says he won't go but will stay with his Grandma.
No 8 year old should be afraid like that

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Spot on there Margaret

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Jeremy Corbyn has been scathing about Theresa Mays record whilst Home Sevretary.
The fact that she cut the police numbers.
He thinks it is simple to conjure money for services out of thin air.
What he hasn't said is that the previous(Labour) government left the country's finances in a parlous state. So much so, that George Osborne cut the funding to many government departments...what Theresa May did was try to balance the books.
Had the chancellor borrowed to sort out the finances, then that would have been wrong as well.

I hope everyone remembers these things when they go to vote later this week.

You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich.
For everyone who does not work, the money has to be earned by those who do work...and see nothing for their work.
For what is given, must first be taken from someone else.
Everything has to be paid for by someone.
Jeremy Corbyn is the terrorists friend, the ally of the EU, he will bring in many more immigrants,destroy trade... he thinks that if you want more services you can just go and shake the money tree

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a terrorist dosnt care how many officers are present on the streets they only care how many people will get caught in the blast and if there are police among them the more the merrier as far as they are concerned

also lets have a think as to why there have been cuts

oh yes labour bankrupted the country and now diane abbot wants to pay police £30 per week and her sidedick has voted against almost all legislation if not all legislation that woudl have increased anti terrorism laws

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All this is getting too adversarial for me. I'll keep my mouth shut in future .

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Please don't do that Jim. It all gives interest and balance.
I like to read your postings, and it is nothing personal.

Sometimes discussions get heated, but that is because there is a passion behind what the poster is trying to get across.
Sometimes this is the only place that the views they hold can get an airing...and you never know, someone in the political scene might just look and get what worries the person in the street.

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Where were you when I needed backup on facebook after making my "they are only telling us what they think we want to hear" comment when the Labour party posted a nice speech by a local Imam?

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Neil...I am sure that you know from long past experience of my posts, I DO NOT DO FACEBOOK...not now not next week, not EVER!

The platitudes that have come from all areas...Imams, the Muslim Council of Britain, all sides and colours of the political spectrum.
All of it hot air. Worth nothing.
Jeremy Corbyn is despicable in his opportunistic use of the latest attack. He has made mileage of what he sees as the failings of Theresa May(she was only trying to stay in budget), but sees absolutely nothing wrong in his support for terrorism...he meets them, greets them and every single attempt to thwart terrorism he has voted against...this is since 1983.

He is a hypocrite of the first order and is not fit to lead the Whit walk, let alone this country.

God help us if he gets in tomorrow.

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That sums it up very well in my view, also worth saying the cuts in my view came as a result of Labour leaving us skint, that seems to be overlooked by all the clowns supporting J.C.:rolleyes:

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Yes, I think I noted that the previous Labour government had a lot to do with WHY the austere approach to budgets within government departments were needed.

Today we have that clown David Lammy saying that Theresa May is weak because she has made so many U turns.
Theresa May has made changes because the circumstances in recent events have made her re-evaluate what she needs to do.
It is only a fool who stays on the same course when they can see the iceberg approaching.
Do these people think we, the electorate haven't got the brains to bless ourselves with or what?
Do other people swallow these statements whole without chewing them over?

Jim...don't answer those last two questions :)

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Margaret, I'm sorry but I am still voting Labour

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Well understandable Corbyns new Home Secretary voted AGAINST article 50.:rolleyes: another dimwit who dont accept democracy. also she quit as shadow home secretary cos she thought Corbyn was useless.

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She not totally daft then :D:D:D

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Don't be sorry Jim(it is entirely your choice and I respect that)...what you need to be is very afraid!
If they get in we will be proper sunk!

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No need at all to be sorry, at least hes voting.

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‪ MP in four-letter blast at blind man: 'Out of my way' Labour whip shouts at reporter | Daily Mail Online

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A vote for Labour is a vote for a party that's against zero hour contract even though they employed 23000 people on them last year, the party with a leader against the shoot to kill policy when it comes to terrorism, the party that started the privatisation of the NHS in 2006, the party that cut 660 million from Labour run NHS Wales over the last 3 years, the party that started the introduction of the bedroom tax in 2007, the party that left the NHS with 300 billion of loan repayments, the party that wants to charge people £10 a month to use the nhs and £20 for every night they're in hospital, the party paid only £14000 tax on a total income of £33.3 million, the party who when last in power doubled the rate of income tax for the poor and protected the rich, they are not for the many, they are for the rich.

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But those Labour diehards will not remember any of that tomorrow.
They will believe it is the party that looks out for the interests of the working man and we all know that since TB got his hands on the party and renamed it, it has not been the party that looks after the working man.

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thankfully we dont have anyone like that in the labour party around here


i have to say that as im not sure if police cautions are public record or not

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The figure show that budgets in the public sector are higher than they were under labour while deficit is a third of what it was under labour, another 4/5 year we could be deficit free

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no matter who you actually vote for, which party gets a majority or we have another coalition i doubt it will make the slightest difference to your everyday life no matter what age group you,re in. 70 years on this planet has shown me when you get a change in government nothing much happens for the man on the street. you might win a penny or loose one who ever gets in power.

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I am sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this one.
I have been on the planet as long as you and I really feel this is the most decisive election in my lifetime.
Our exit from the corrupt union with the EU is at stake.
The security of our borders(long left to rot) is at stake, and a list of other things too long to mention...all of them hang on this election.
If you want unlimited immigration by people that would harm us and our way of life, then vote Labour.
If you want a country for your children and grandchildren that is mired in debt(caused by borrowing for policies that you cannot afford) then vote for labour.
If you want to see the flight of large investors and the consequences that will bring, then vote Labour.
If you want our defences to be non existent vote Labour. If you want a leader who is an apologist for terror...who has voted against every attempt to legislate against terror...vote Labour.
If you want a leader who couldn't run a jam stall, then vote Labour.
If you want to be dragged back into what will become the federal states of Europe then vote Labour.

If all these options make you sick to the pit of your stomach, then whatever your past allegiances, you have to bite the bullet for the good of the country...and vote conservative.
If I wake up tomorrow and that Worzel Gummidge is in number ten, I might just put a shilling in the meter and put my head in the gas oven.

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whilst i agree with your sentiments regarding the labour party i do think you,re being a little pessimistic about the worst case scene if the corbyn crowd did get elected. all party,s seem more left wing or right wing when out of power hopeing the floaters will follow their party lines. when in power they quickly go back on their more reactionary promises and do the famous U turns.

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The very thought of "Wurzel Gummidge" as you so kindly call muppet Corbyn has put me of my very late breakfast Margaret.

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I would not for one second trust that they would alter their stance.(and I am not for taking the risk)

If you think I am being pessimistic, just wait and see what the stock markets do to our economy if Labour get in.
Watch money being wiped off shares. Watch businesses relocate to places where Labour cannot apply swingeing taxes...watch jobs disappear.
The rich will leave and the poor will get poorer. But one category of people who will feel none of the pinch will be those elected to be MP's. They already live in a different world to us.
Now you may think it is only the well off who worry about share markets...but many millions are invested to pay pensions.
Those that Labour consider to be rich will leave, the poor will still be poor and may get even poorer.
Schools and hospitals will be expected to cater for more and more immigrants(which JC thinks are good for the UK).
We will get the worst deal possible from the EU because they know that man will take ANY deal...even a bad one.
We will have all the bills that go with being IN the EU, but none of the say so(so not much change there then)just to keep the shrinking single market.
We will still have to abide by EU rules and you think this is pessimism?

I do not consider myself a pessimist. I consider myself to be a realist.
I have looked carefully at what my vote means, I do not give it lightly.
I am not a follower of any party, but I am one of those voters who votes with what is good for me and my family...and that is definitely NOT LABOUR!

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Sorry Russell. He hasn't really got enough sense(he may be well educated, but that does not equate to common sense) to be anything more than a scarecrow.

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whilst i agree with your statements above margaret i do think corbyn would water down all his policies because of the reasons you,ve stated. his lot always have done and that,s why the lefties get so upset when they can,t obtain their pie in the sky social state and labour always make out they,re the progressive party where we,ll all live in harmony, piece and afluence for ever.

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Voted 1st thing come on Graham Jones :D

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So, to reassure the voters in these troubled times we are required to have armed Police at some polling stations, what an absolute disgrace that our so called free Country has been reduced to these third world actions to do what is a right thanks to the fights for equality of many generations!
Polling stations patrolled by armed police as millions turn out to vote in General Election | London Evening Standard

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Things like that are ok to the tree hugging human rights brigade, must not upset our terrorists.

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For the first time ever, there is a Policeman at the Polling Station we go to.

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im quite happy to show my feelings by voting against him but if thats how you wanna do it knock yer socks off :eek::eek::eek::eek:

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95% of me says don't vote for Jonesy, the other 5% says don't ever vote labour again, if he is their standard of representative.

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Ooh Less, I wish I had said that!

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Margaret, I probably stole the idea from one of your earlier posts.[emoji106]

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No Less, I would have remembered.
I do hope the people of our borough wake up and give him his marching orders.

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Sadly, in discussion with folk today, I think I've met the 95% Graham was referring to!
They either said I can't be arsed to vote or claimed it was too complicated for them and therefore they would vote the way they always do (both labour & tory).

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That's pretty SAD.

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WHAAAAT!
Have these folk got spit for brains?
I really despair.

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Sad is not the word I would be using to describe them.
Do these folk get knives and forks to eat with or are they only allowed spoons?

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Well yes, I think they have, especially the ones that vote by tradition, I can forgive the can't be arsed they (as our local representative has stated) know, no better, ignored by the education system, not even capable of spelling X shouldn't be blamed for their lack of enthusiasm, they are the ones we need to feel sorry for.

Yeah, right, I really do believe that.

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I notice Jeremy Corbyn voted via the DISABLED ACCESS. Says it all.

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I wonder, will old Jonesy finally come back on site if he wins, to tell us how right he is and how wrong we are?
You know, what I mean, spoilt child syndrome couldn't show his face while being told he's wrong, but able to bray like a gelding if he wins.

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It would not surprise me.
I think he might get a pretty frosty reception if he does.
He doesn't bother with us for so long...but I am pretty sure he reads what goes on here...maybe someone else reads the stuff and reports back.

Every time I have seen a poster with his name on it, I get this uncontrollable urge to do a 'footballers spit' on it.
Very childish I know, but I am only 14 in my head.

The Labour team were in our street yesterday. I noted they gave my house a very wide berth.
I was waiting with a list of questions.Such a shame that I did not get to test their mettle.

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I'm on your side and I'd give your house a wide birth!!!!!!

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And there I was hoping you could teach me how to do a 'footballers spit'.(I know you had a misspent youth)

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Nope, never had T.B. nor played football.

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Too complicated all you gotta do is put a flaming cross in a box and put it in another box

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As a UKIP supporter I had to vote for the better option, henceforth my vote went to the Tories, anything to keep labour out of power and away from the treasury

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Nope not complicated at all, it was devised with a cross so that even the illiterate could vote, unfortunately there seem to be many that can't even live up to that standard, (perhaps because they are used to others doing the work for them?)

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Not even like the voting is only early in morning, so the youth have no reason not to vote. I'm 22 and was 2nd time voting

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It's not an age thing, many young folk take voting very seriously, as do some folk all the way across the age range, unfortunately we all get bored to death by the complainers of all ages that moan no matter which party runs the country until a day like today, suddenly although they still complain their whining becomes, 'why should I vote, it makes no difference', of course their not voting makes a difference and if they actually got off their backsides and voted it might even make a big difference.

No matter what your age, no matter whom it was you voted for, at least if you make the effort to go to the polling booth and make a cross you are working for your and other peoples future, you can complain about the outcome with a clear conscience.

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Sooooo, from this we can assume, one vote, one party or else we will put you against the wall come the revolution?

What a bag of Shiite, aren't we supposed to be uniting against terrorism not condoning it?

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I'm sure if we leave some humous and a hackey sack out that'll settle the lefty hippies down

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So what they are saying is much like the remoaners...they only like democracy if the vote goes their way.
If it doesn't they will chuck their toys out of the pram...very mature, very grown up.
They don't agree with the majority of the electorate, so they will work to undermine a duly elected government.
Well, let's see what happens.
Maybe the incoming government (if Tory)will pass legislation to deter civil unrest, strikes and the like.
The days of strikes are long past.
People do not want to lose money participating in useless strikes.Strikes which will do nothing to further their cause.
In the long run they cannot see that this will wreck THEIR future...businesses will fold, jobs will go and it will be due to the short sighted stupidity of these morons.

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Looking like a hung parliament only way Tories will get majority is if they form a coalition with the DUP

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1195627]So what they are saying is much like the remoaners...they only like democracy if the vote goes their way.
If it doesn't they will chuck their toys out of the pram...very mature, very grown up.
seems to be the way of the world now. like him or not in the usa trump got elected and what did that bring, loads of protests and that is supposed to be a home of democracy. same with brexit. if you don,t like a vote democratically done then start to stir the manure till you get what you want.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1195666]Which demonstrates perfectly,how pathetic some people are.

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Or as my granny used to say ' they want all their own road and a bag to put it in'!

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Getting back to the theme, British Military veterans marched today through London to demand action against "Muslim terrorism", looking at the MSM, Al Beeb, is significantly "AWOL" in so far as reporting the event ..... no surprise there then!

WATCH: 'Veterans Against Terrorism' Demand Action