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cashman 09-06-2017 08:08

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Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 1195663)
The daft thing is people voted for Brexit but none of the major Parties wanted it !! The Conservatives had to run with it and Cameron resigned and May picked the baton up saw a chance to enhance her position and it failed. However that still leaves the majority of us with no one really representing the views we voted for in the Brexit Referendum. I think the last two votes have been a protest vote by many who feel no one is actually giving people what we all want, a fairer society with tighter border controls, a welfare state that looks after the vulnerable and an NHS that's funded correctly.

Thing is Corbyns manifesto great as it looks,could not be funded properly, thats a certainty according to financial experts, he has conned people, especially the younger uns, cos he knew damn well he was not going to be elected,

Shurm 09-06-2017 08:16

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Cashman I agree but we will never know and like you said he even felt he had no chance really, I voted locally for Graham I don't really feel any of the major parties represent my views completely.

cashman 09-06-2017 08:29

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None represent my views completely shurm, but i regard exit from the corrupt E.U. as paramount to us eventually getting a better life,and the fact we now have a government with no overall majority, makes things a damn site worse.

Margaret Pilkington 09-06-2017 10:08

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Originally Posted by Shurm (Post 1195659)
That's your opinion which your entitled to I have mine which is that she thought she would hit Labour when she thought they were down and out and wipe them away. That's what all the Press were saying at the time and the British Public decided not to back her.

It just makes me wonder if Labour had an exceptional Leader what might have been. I voted for Graham Jones as I like the lad and wanted him to win again.

Yes of course it is my opinion, but it is also backed up by the facts I stated.
I honour and respect the opinions of others.
Graham Jones may be a very pleasant man, but he has done nothing for our borough that instilled confidence.(again,this is just my opinion).
I expected more from him, but then maybe that is my fault.
Perhaps I need to lower my expectations.

As for the press, they are to be taken with a very large pinch of salt...they print stuff that they believe will sell papers and they play to the lowest common denominator.
I do not swallow whole what the popular media tell me...I look further if I want information.

Margaret Pilkington 09-06-2017 10:10

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1195671)
None represent my views completely shurm, but i regard exit from the corrupt E.U. as paramount to us eventually getting a better life,and the fact we now have a government with no overall majority, makes things a damn site worse.

It certainly does and has considerably weakened our bargaining power.
This will delight those in Brussels who would like to toast our hides...and I don't mean with Champagne.

cashman 09-06-2017 11:39

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I have come to the conclusion,theres a lot of dense people!! the Election was called to give the government a stronger hand in Brexit fact. Corbyn changed it to policies,fact. the suckers fell for it, whilst policies are important fact, we needed a strong hand in Brexit to pay for things and eventually get straight, the sensible course was to give government that hand, get sorted and "THEN" vote the torys out if people didn't like the policies.bit difficult for clowns to take the "Long View".:rolleyes:

Gremlin 09-06-2017 11:56

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My view entirely Cashman.
Let the Torys get us out of Europe, a strong Brexit and then I'll get back to being a labour supporter again.

cashman 09-06-2017 12:27

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1195688)
My view entirely Cashman.
Let the Torys get us out of Europe, a strong Brexit and then I'll get back to being a labour supporter again.

Also they forget the fact that austerity happened cos the last Labour government stupidly left us skint, remember the note they left regarding it as funny?

Margaret Pilkington 09-06-2017 12:47

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Yes, what short memories they have.
I think one of the problems of modern life is that everyone seems to believe they have'rights'.(no one ever mentions responsibility)

They think that they should have everything that everyone else has.
Some of the people who say they are poor still expect to smoke, have a beer, a foreign holiday, but in the next breath they tell us that they cannot afford to buy a house.
Well, forgive me while I wipe the tears from my eyes.

During the time we were newly married we did without many things, we did not have new clothes, holidays or any luxury items...just so that we could save for a house.

st06nc2 12-06-2017 14:21

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As part of the Tory DUP deal, DUP want Nigel farage on the Brexit negotiating team

DaveinGermany 12-06-2017 14:55

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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1195809)
As part of the Tory DUP deal, DUP want Nigel farage on the Brexit negotiating team

Probably the most sensible thing to come out of this whole performance, but I'm pretty damn sure old Tezzy DisMay won't be having any of it!

st06nc2 12-06-2017 15:41

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1195813)
Probably the most sensible thing to come out of this whole performance, but I'm pretty damn sure old Tezzy DisMay won't be having any of it!

If she wants the majority vote she's got no choice

st06nc2 12-06-2017 15:57

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Labour will be under investigation for vote fraud as students have voted twice. In university area and in thier home area which is illegal, labour can't even win when they cheat ������

cashman 12-06-2017 15:59

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Originally Posted by st06nc2 (Post 1195818)
Labour will be under investigation for vote fraud as students have voted twice. In university area and in thier home area which is illegal, labour can't even win when they cheat ������

That would not surprise me at all.

st06nc2 12-06-2017 16:08

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https://www.change.org/p/uk-electora...ion-fraud-2017


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