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OMG. Now I’ve heard it all. Talk about political correctness going haywire. Here’s another way that it has, at least over here. According to today’s newspaper soldiers are being banned from using terms like ‘him’ and ‘her’ and have to stick to non-gender language so as not to offend anyone. They have also to issue an apology if they use the banned language.

I’m sure this is not what people of different sexual persuasions themselves want to happen. Probably some so-called do-gooders sticking their nose in where it’s not warranted.

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I am so glad I am at the dog end of my life.
That I lived in times when things were so much simpler.
It is not the world that has gone mad....but just a small percentage of the inhabitants.

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they can all sod off for me. if you are a man then thats what you are and if you are a woman then you are one. its those bloody do gooders that certainly increase my blood pressure. bit more pressure for kids who will not know what they are in the end.

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Utter stupidity, they can attempt to neutralise gender as much as they want but, as soon as puberty kicks in both boys and girls know there is a great deal of interest in the difference in the opposite sex and no amount of political correctness will stop nature (or these kids) from exploring it.

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Even do-gooders understand Pish off, thats the only way to deal with balloons like them.:rolleyes:

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I do believe that people should not be victimised because of who they are regarding their sexuality. It’s nobody else’s business.

However, that politically correct brigade do tend to go overboard at times. They have done so at an airline company (which shall remain nameless) when they told their staff not to use gender inappropriate words like husband, wife, mum and dad. Instead they were told to use the words ‘partner’, ‘spouse’, and ‘parents’.

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This ‘mustn’t offend’ whether it is because of religion, sex, or whatever, really does go too far at times. Though maybe we really could have used a bit of it years ago. I’m not sure where the P.C. Police were in Australia in the days when the Greeks were called Wogs, the Italians were Dagos, and us English people were Pommie Bast****. If you complained then you were a whinging Pom – and if you didn’t like it then you knew what you could do….

…so we developed a thick skin and gave back as good as we got.

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It feels very much like these minorities are inflicting their values on the majority...but it is not them doing it, it is the liberal lefties who are at fault.
Less, I am with you...they will try to wipe out gender, but it can't be done.
It is not even to try and ensure equality.
Male and female were never meant to be in competition.
They were always meant to complement one another.
They are the two sides of one coin.
All different, all individuals with something to give to the world.

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If someone takes offence, then that is their problem.
We all have our sensitivities....and like opinions, we are entitled to them.
(Mine is profanities and foul language and that is MY problem)

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With a little self control AND tolerance towards the people causing you to use foul language, even you can stop swearing Margaret.
:hidewall:

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No, Less....I use only the mildest of swear words(is 'chuffing' a swear word).
I mean that I hate having to listen to the filthy language that comes out of some folks mouths(and I KNOW you know this, but others may not)
I challenged a young couple (travelling with a baby and a toddler)on public transport recently by asking them if they kissed their children goodnight with their filthy mouths.
I got a black look, but they did no swearing for the rest of the journey.

It is my offended attitude to listening to swearing that is MY problem.

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Sod all wrong wi that Margaret,;)

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I can't imagine you swearing at all (you have what is known as self control).

I try to keep my swearing to a minimum sometimes however when used in the correct manner it can be quite effective.

One of the pubs I use has a barmaid (or to be P.C. a barperson) she has a mouth so foul every second word is worse than anything I used to hear in the Navy.
I was waiting to be served and she started ranting at me about something that was none of my business, I told her this has nothing to do with me, she/(it) kept ranting, I said, look, I've just told you this has nothing to do with me, so, shut the **** up and serve my bloody beer I don't need to listen to you.
She/(it) looked shocked, said that it was strange for me to swear at her, yes, was my reply just because I don't normally swear at you doesn't mean I don't know the words, if you would like me to stop swearing at you in future, then learn to moderate your language and just do your job which is keeping me supplied with beer.

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If you hit your thumb with a hammer...that is justification for letting rip.
But when you are sitting on a bus and the person (or persons) in front are using really foul language every third word, it is a sign they have very poor command of their mother tongue.
It is also a sign that they have not been checked when growing up.
Swearing is not a sign that you are a 'grown up'.

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The majority of servicemen (whoops), are given nicknames early on in their service life which tends to stick throughout their service. I can only think of one that could be classed as sexist - a WRAF who carried the name "Bumpy" throughout her career and she still uses it - she was quite a well endowed young lady and an absolute hooligan on the 5 a side football court, although many were grateful for the cushioning effect when she crashed you into the boards.

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Sadly pc is an insidious disease creeping through & inflicting society, you've probably seen these adverts on the UK telly for the Army



https://www.breitbart.com/london/201...-disciplinary/


The "Brass" according to the article are obviously infected & incurable. I'm pretty sure your average trooper, section commander, running a patrol through an enemy area (especially in a mad mullah region) would most definitely have some "Choice" words to say on the subject of taking time out for their minority to sniff a rug, while his brethren are waiting round the corner with their AK's & RPG's.

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Perhaps if they changed it to

"Be the mediocre, gender neutral, gay and we'll promise not to fight on Fridays".

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Seems they are making a big deal oer Boris Johnson saying "Letterboxes" what a load of crap, everyone i know calls em that, its no big deal, nothing nasty meant by it,:rolleyes:

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A slight correction (though it doesn't matter because in this P.C. world being right all the time is a disadvantage).

"Be the mediocre, gender neutral, gay, we'll promise not to fight on Fridays and we now have disabled parking on the parade ground".

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[QUOTE=Barrie Yates;1215662]The majority of servicemen (whoops), are given nicknames early on in their service life which tends to stick throughout their service.

was not a serviceperson{sorry** but most of us had nicknames where i was a bus driver. those who did not have one were the quiet types keeping themselves to themselves. getting one ever for the women working there seemed like a badge of acceptance by the others. some of the names were not all that complimentary either but no one had a hissy fit about it. good old workplace humour to get you through another shift.

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Have just seen a good un on Facebook. it says " If bikinis are banned in muslim countries, then burquas should be banned in Europe". seems some countries have, but we aint got the balls to ban em!!

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Must admit, I've never been turned on by an overweight 45 year old guy in a bikini, but wow! those burkas, they must be hiding something really amazing, bring them on.

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However unpalatable it might seem, I think Boris has said what many people think, but are reluctant to say.
The full fave covering is not acceptable, but the way he criticised it was a bit daft....and he left himself open to censure.
If someone in a motor bike helmet went into a bank or a shop, they would require that person to remove it.

It is not a religious requirement, it is cultural and you can go to countries where the predominant religion is Muslim and not see as many of these face veils as you do in Blackburn.
If you come to live in a western country, then you need to adopt western dress....it does not
have to be immodest.
Community cohesion is difficult to achieve if half of the ethnic culture wear clothing that acts as a barrier.

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In Tesco Extra there is a notice as you enter stating "Crash helmets must be removed", or words to that effect. It is natural to assume that this is for security reasons but a Niqab (the face veil), is allowed. In my opinion the niqab is more of a security problem and has already been used in the escape of a terrorist from the law.
I think BJ is wrong to call them Letter Boxes - Letter boxes are red.

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I wonder what would happen if a person in a full face crash helmet followed a person wearing a full face burka into the supermarket.
That would put the security in a bit of a dilemma.

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they,d be banned pretty quickly if methodists or baptists decided on some form of face covering.

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I read the article in the Telegraph twice, there was not one word in it that I found offensive. Everything he wrote is what most people agree with. Hope he does not apologise

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Doubt very much if he will, he is well aware of public opinion, which is "WHY" he said it in my view.

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I hope he does not apologise. He was clumsy in the way he articulated his points....but he was saying what most of us think.
He was being factual, not anti Islamic or racist.
Those who aim these criticisms at him are just shutting down any kind of discussion.

The Niqab and the Burqa are ways to make women invisible...unrecognisable as members of society.
They prevent any kind of communication and are barriers to cohesion.
What a woman in a burqa is saying(whether she believes it or not) is that she does not want to be part of OUR everyday life....she does not want us to recognise her, smile at her or accept her into our lives or society.
So how is that empowering?
She is also saying that she does not trust the men in society to be able to control their base instincts.

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Ah yes, the dreaded Base instincts, the reason we have to have locks on bathroom doors.

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no lock on ours Less.:)

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Well some men have baser instincts than others you must have one of the rare ones with built in self control.

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Gender neutral and unisex toilets - men who want to be female allowed easily to use female toilets could soon be legal?

But Boris is a idiot to talk like that - sounds very childish - he should know better - he's encouraging verbal intimidation! No doubt some of the bully's on here will have a go at me about this - but Boris is a disgrace he should never be Prime Minister...all religious garments look silly - including the pope and heads of the Church of England...

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which bullies do you mean Kestrelx.
Just because we may not subscribe to your view of things does not make us bullies.

As for the robes worn by the clergy in various religious organisations...that is TOTALLY different.
Their robes do no obscure from view their faces...they do not act as a barrier.

Boris was clumsy in his choice of words, but I think what he said needed saying.
The niqab and the burqa are not requirements of any religion...they are cultural and a throwback from the days of the 7th century.
They do women no favours.
As for gender neutral toilets...I would rathe go behind a bush for a P.

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We leave our bathroom door open most of the time.
We have got to the time of our lives when things can sometimes happen...the last thing you want is to be on the floor with the door locked.
after almost 52 years of marriage there is no point in being coy.
I have nothing he has not seen before...and he is not shy.

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Did you take a University course in bull****?

If so I reckon you passed with honours.

As for unisex toilets Belgium has already got them, men & women wandering all around together, but, try to get out without paying and you are in for big trouble! The lady on the door is far more frightening than any transvestite with a large Adams apple that insists you dance with them!

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Accy have had unsex toilets for years if you count market hall door way and the ******* that use it as such.

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Cashy gone are the days when you could call a spade a spade

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Not for Cashy they haven't.
I like people who tell it like it is. I trust them more than those who beat about the bush.

I remember some years ago Jack Straw causing a bit of a storm about face veils...what he said at the time was right....but it was blown up into a racist issue by the media and he was made to apologise.

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I just say as i see, if folk dont like it, then its their problem, not mine. I refuse to be quietened by the P.C. twits (would have put another word but kids come on)

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Just been thinking Perhaps Boris should say " Sorry for telling the truth"?

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Why would you ever be sorry for telling the truth?
The only thing he needs to apologise for is his choice of words....if he needs to apologise at all.
He expressed himself in a blunt way....but said what many people think.

I no longer visit some local places because I feel intimidated by these women in this garb....though I am loathe to tell any person how they should or should not dress.
I am uncomfortable with the burqa(you cannot tell who is contained in that tent of a garment) and I dislike the niqab because it tells me that the woman behind it sees herself as different....and does not want to be in the mainstream of society....does not want to be recognised or recognisable.
While I would not want to ban them, I feel that they should be strongly discouraged.

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Regarding closing and/or locking doors, I agree Margaret that for safety reasons if for no other (???) it is a good idea to leave the bathroom door open - or at least unlocked. Anyway I’m safe as no one would want to see my old body these days – if they did it would probably traumatise them for life.

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This old hypocrite was on one of the online news sites castigating Boris for saying something like what he said in 2006.

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1


I no longer visit some local places because I feel intimidated by these women in this garb....

a few years ago my lad and his mate from daventry came to visit me. they were in their late teens at the time. when they changed buses at leicester and on seeing a group of muslim women with full head gear on he just ran in the opposite direction in fear. i thought it funny myself but wonder what actually younger kids might feel.

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Watching the news last night interviewer asking people what they thought about Boris and what he said, I thought some of them should be made to wear the berqa

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Not wishing to do a Boris and end up being known as insensitive.

I have noticed that most of our black Countrymen/women seem to be appearing in almost all the adverts on T.V.
I'm trying to be delicate here, I have no wish to be accused of racism or prejudice of any kind, if our blacks (am I allowed to call them that or am I being patronising?) don't mind me asking,

I just wonder, (because to be in an advert would, I assume depend on being good at putting a product across for the rest of society to buy (i.e. a good actor, not just put forward as a minority)).

Are there any black people left in the U.K. that do ordinary jobs?

Please if I've offended any black, brown, or even, green people by asking this question I wholeheartedly apologise in advance, it's just that, well, really I don't give a damn about being P.C. but I do like to see a minority getting on well in what they have so obviously made their niche.
:golly:

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Leftist liberal wankeratti run the UK broadcasters & as such ensure that their agenda gets rammed down the throats of the populace at every opportunity. At one time I enjoyed the adverts because they were quite funny & clever, well made & as such made you aware of certain products (John Smiths & Bud come to mind).


It now appears that the product is secondary in the advert & that the main thrust is now aimed at depicting "British families" as mixed race, multi ethnic, or lbgtxyz-ite. It is now rare (in my personal view) to see a homogenous white christian family as the "Standard" family unit.



I really hate the way the country has gone & I despise the liberal elite that have destroyed what was once my homeland! Me personally I'd be happy to turn the clocks back to the "Olden days" (after all I am a child of my time), when English life was hideously white & the squealing common purpose imbeciles didn't hold sway in society. So that being said, does this make me a stinking filthy nazi-racist-xenophobic-scumbag?


Well if it does, then I'll bear the title with pride! And furthermore gladly continue to ridicule & denounce the moronic useful idiots wher'ere they be found.

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We took our 4 year old Granddaughter back to Saudi Arabia for a holiday. The first time she went into a supermarket and she saw women in Habbaiyas (hijabs) and niqabs she clung to my wife and said "Nanna, why are there all these witches here?", the child was absolutely terrified and it took quite a lot of explaining.

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Kids, like Cashy, say as they see!!

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Well them kids were correct lol

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[QUOTE=DaveinGermany;1215946]


It now appears that the product is secondary in the advert & that the main thrust is now aimed at depicting "British families" as mixed race, multi ethnic, or lbgtxyz-ite. It is now rare (in my personal view) to see a homogenous white christian family as the "Standard" family unit.



I really hate the way the country has gone & I despise the liberal elite that have destroyed what was once my homeland!

on top of this dave you have to always get some gay or lesbian thread but in nearly every drama production on the box nowadays. people of this persuasion have always existed but not to the same extent as the forced impression that is given by the media.

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The LGBT stuff that is mixed in with programs is to pander to the minority.
I have no beef with what sexual orientation folk are....once upon a time this stuff was kept private.
As for the mixed race thing.More and more adverts and programs portray families in this way and it is all part of trying to normalise the situation and bring to fruition the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan.

The Pan European Project: Coudenhove-Kalergi's plan to destroy the European people >

I think this is part of the reason Mama Merkel has let so many immigrants into Europe without a thought for the people of her country or for that matter, other European countries......she is part of the elite that want this to happen.....and want us all brainwashed to accept it.

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1216017]
I believe that to be the case MH, although I don't partake of the mindnumbing drivel pumped out on "Primetime tv", I read a lot of papers/news sites & they're constanly prattling on about the latest shocks/horrors/twists in numerous "Visual Entertainments"?


And as for the pitiful lefty infested Al Beeb & according to their "Historic dramas", the amount of black & brown folkses that abounded upon our shores & traipsed our green & pleasant land throughout our lurid "British" history is truly staggering!

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[QUOTE=DaveinGermany;1216036


And as for the pitiful lefty infested Al Beeb & according to their "Historic dramas", the amount of black & brown folkses that abounded upon our shores & traipsed our green & pleasant land throughout our lurid "British" history is truly staggering![/QUOTE]

dave, didn,t you know robin hood was gay and from a so called ethnic minority. and as for friar took he should be displayed as a muslim cleric. maid marion i,ll let you make that one up.

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Monkey Hanger, I thought Robin Hood was actually a communist - I remember reading that he was a 'no-no' in America because he robbed from the rich to give to the poor. Enough said about that! Things haven't changed much....

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What I am about to post is purposely and absolutely politically incorrect and I apologise most insincerely if it offends anyone…tough you-know-what’s!

Ladies, don’t knock wearing the burqa, instead think about the benefits. Wearing a burqa means no need to worry if you are having a bad hair day, it will be hidden from view. If you are troubled with facial hair (as so many women are – especially as one ages) no need to epilate, you can be the bearded lady and no one will ever know.

If you feel confined wearing a bra then leave it off – let your boobs bounce freely. Only you will know. You’ll never have to worry about what to wear and if it’s a hot day then the least worn under it the better.

If you overindulge in chocolates and those sugary fizzy drinks who cares about the resultant bulges. These would be strictly between you and the burqa. As for makeup – think of the money you’ll save not needing any.

So maybe the women who wear the burqa are more liberated than we give them credit for…

.…and can anyone tell me where I can get a one?

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Sorry, Monkey Hanger, I meant to say things HAVE changed, it's the poor who are robbed and the rich get richer.....where is Robin Hood when you need him.

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Oh Dorothy....I laughed so much the tears ran down my legs.

I have ordered my burqa from E-bay(you can get almost anything on there).
Hooray no more epilation....no more anti wrinkle cream....and I can let everything swing in the breeze.

The other advantage is if you see someone you don't really want to speak to....you no longer need to duck into a shop....they will never know it's you under that marquee.

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The only trouble is someone might think you are a post box and try to post a letter!

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No....I wouldn't choose a red one.

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Strangely enough, you don't need a burqa, all you need to do is degenerate to wearing track suit bottoms.

For some strange reason the people that wear them in public never wear the top.

The other thing these people tend to do is scratch in public, there was an example the other day, he was trying to scrounge a fag off me but couldn't keep his hands out of his elasticated band, scratching away to distraction, had it been the first time I'd seen this sort of action I might have been offended.
I've learnt overtime that having such free entry to ones crutch isn't just a male thing, the females of the can't be arsed to dress reasonably are just as bad.

IF we are going to ban the burqa can we also ban this lazy form of garb?

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You may not actually want to see the faces of these folk wearing what you term as 'lazy garb'....but you can.

I don't think women of a certain age need a burqa to become invisible.
It happens naturally, with age.
Who'd have thought I would have the superpower of invisibility...but isn't it strange that it only works in shops, pubs etcetera...places where I am waiting to be served?
It doesn't work if you are doing something that you shouldn't be doing.(not that that has happened to me).

A burqa is the way that ethnic women remove themself from the community....the way they tell us that they do not want to participate in the society they chose to live in.
All this 'virtue signalling' that they are so religiously devout they can look out on us, but we are not permitted to see them.
I cannot see, for the life of me, how this garment empowers women of an ethnic background.(this is what those who have been interviewed for news channels have said.)

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Of course it is and to be honest I wish several more of them would stop participating in our society, all those that don't want to mix and muck in they are the ones that should be offered (or maybe forced) to take free passage back to their ancestral lands.

I just wish trackky bottomists could be forced to dress in a manner that doesn't tempt them to play with their genitals in public.

Given the choice I would keep the wearer of the Burqa they are far more hygienic.

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As far as you can see, that is....except you cannot see what they are doing inside that marquee they are wearing.
The could very easily be fiddling with their bits and you would never know about it.

I think I might be tempted to say those who are playing 'pocket billiards' with their bits....'I am glad you aren't going to be making the butts'....or 'have you managed to pot the red yet?'

You cannot put style or culture where there is none(sorry Cashy for plagiarising one of your favourite sayings).

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Having lived in Saudi Arabia I can't help but be amused by those conflicted leftie feminists who defend their Muslim sisters' "right" to wear burkas and face coverings. There was an excellent article about this in Saturday's Times by a Muslim Oxford professor.
The question I'd like to ask those who believe it is a woman's 'right' to be covered up and kept hidden away by order of fundamentalist men is this - would those wearing burkas and niqabs stand up and defend your 'right' to show your legs and arms and if you were walking through Chop Square in Jeddah?

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why not you could start an accrington fashion accessory and Stanley could then sell em in the club shop.

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Because it may get mistaken for a postbox.:)

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only if you stand around on street corners.

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I do sometimes do that....when my other half wanders off.
No, a red burqa would not be acceptable.
That bright colour draws attention and everyone knows that the women wearing these do not wish to be looked at.
I think they only come in black and blacker.

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Must be hard picking which one to wear when going out

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You would never be stuck for a funeral outfit.

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or matching shoes and handbags. wish her indoors would follow this line in clothes as there would me more room for my stuff.

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I love seeing them doing the tourist thing and all lining up for a photo!

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I always used to wonder how young children coming out of school could identify their mothers? I asked one of the Saudi technicians that I was very friendly with - he shrugged his shoulders and said "maybe the shoes?".

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Yet another for the family album.

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looks like black letter boxes

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good job they were not around in Pendle a few hundred years ago.

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Are these people who wear these garments allowed to walk into a bank without showing there face???

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Yep but wear an open crash helmet and see what happens.:rolleyes:

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Saturday's Telgh page 4, Biker in row over crash helmet.

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With all this political correctness it can be easy to lose track. For example me personally, I treat people as I would like them to treat me. I don't always get it right but hey! Im human. but it strikes me that things come in trends and the media hops aboard what ever the current trend may be. for example a few years ago it was anyone none white, even fewer years ago it was the lesbian and gay communities that were all the rage, while currently if your not considering being transgender or struggling being in the wrong body well your just not it. I don't have any issues with anyone but the media jump aboard it and then thrash us with the whole PC thing. But I have a plan and a cunning one at that. I am a white hetro sexual male of a certain age who is biding his time because in a few years time it will be my turn. I will be trendy and the media will be bashing everyone with the PC stick about me!!! Told you it was cunning!!!

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All I would say about that BJ is...don't hold your breath.
You are far more likely to be beaten with the stick of being a non productive(therefore useless drain on society).
That you support elderly parents, or your children...By looking after their children will not be noted.
That you have years of experience of life and are good as a mentor will also be ignored.
I(personally) think you will have a very long wait and might be waiting in vain....but then what do I know?

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Have to say Big Joe,I agree with Margaret. yeh got more chance of being struck by Lightening than the media focus on us, If yeh think back they did focus on us for awhile after brexit, It was our fault we were OUT. and we will dead soon so it didn't matter to us.;)

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You've just gotta love the Polish. PC?? What the hell's that? :D


https://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ld-cathedrals/


If only we had people like this running our country & not the the shower of she-ite that reside in the commons & allegedly represent us!

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dave, you cannot have someone like this guy running the country as there is a possibility he speaks the truth and says it like it is. his fellow politicians could not cope with someone like this.

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For me the issue should not be about banning an item of clothing, it should be about making women feel that they do not WANT to wear it.

Banning the Burqa is not the right way to go about changing an ideology....it is the ideology that needs changing and this cannot be done using sledgehammer tactics....it needs to be done with subtlety.

These women are not identifying with the country they have chosen to adopt.
They are identifying with the country they have left behind(and in the case of those born here, never belonged to).
By wearing this garment they are making a statement....and that statement is

' I am different and have no intention of fitting in...no intention of integrating. I want to remain isolated from western life'

While we think we would like someone like this in power, it is not really a step forward...it is a step onto a slippery slope.

it is a kind of fascism...and that is the last thing we need.

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How can you change an ideology? when the radicals want to kill infidels,? and the moderates in the main have more sense than to object to em? cos it beats the hell outa me.:confused:

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I really don't have the answer to that question Cashy, but that is what is required.

It is a seventh century ideology within a 21st century setting. This is what creates the difficulties.
It is recognised that attitudes are the hardest things to change.
We have to find some way of making women actually want to give them up.
They somehow believe that it is part of their devotion to their religion....that wearing it shows how devout, modest and religious they are.
Nuns are modest, devote themselves to their God, cover their heads, but not their faces.

Banning usually hardens attitudes in this community(this causes a degree of radicalisation, because they see themselves as being persecuted, oppressed)....they really do not want to integrate, but want us to adopt their values.
The best of it is our loony liberals support their views.

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Well Margaret perhaps one way would be for us to harden our hearts?
I don't mean in a send them back where they came from attitude (for legal immigrants), just an enough is enough sort of attitude.
Since the early 60's we have had Asians claiming their right to come here, some have been helpful to both economy and life, some have been not much use at all.

We also have so called indigenous people that are no help at all.

What we need is no more, we are full up, we as, a now multicultural nation will cope with what we have but not any extra.

No more immigrants, no more being nice to illegal immigrants, if they shouldn't be here into prison they go and anyone that had been employing them must pay for their food and clothing until they leave (must be a better punishment than a fine, instead of cheap labour an expensive drain).


I want an integrated society not a collection of racial gettos.

We could all live together, if we were all one nation, that is something we aren't but must become...

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I agree with that Less I have nothing against any immigrant that is here legally and integrates, race or colour dont mean jot if thats the case, Those that refuse to integrate GET SHUT as far as i'm concerned.

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I am with you all the way on this Less.
The truth is these incomers do not want to be part of a westernised community....the Burqa is a symptom of that.
These women want to separate themselves by living inside their own little bubble....divorced from any interaction with the locals of the community they live in.
I am never sure if they do it for themselves(some insist that they do) or whether it is part of male dominance in their culture.
Which ever it is, it is a huge barrier to integration and social cohesion.
How can you relate to, or trust someone whose face you cannot see?

On a personal level, I feel intimidated by women wearing this garment.
I do not like to be in places where they are...and isn't that sad?
And wrong on every level.

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Personally, I don't give a damn about these women covering themselves up, I ain't no looker but if I looked like some of them I would want to keep up the mystery of, 'am I worth looking at or not?' by covering myself.

It could be a blessing when looking at the rest of us if we took on this guise, just to relieve everyone else from having to put up with how we look.

Unfortunately, this is a western society in which we put up with how others look, I am what I am see me and weep, not a great situation for the eye, but by heck, it's an honest approach to life and offers all around you the security that they are no worse than you, nor are we threatening in our appearance to others.

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Less, if you are fishing for compliments, you need to put better bait on your hook.
I make no apologies for how I look...it has taken a long time and a lot of money to look like this.
No, they are no worse than me, but no better either(and yes, I know you never said they were)

I DO give a damn about what is under the burqa.

If these women do not like the western civilisation then they should go to a place where this kind of clothing is the norm.
Afghanistan seems a good place to get accepted in that get up.

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If any that are wearing the full face veil try talking to me ( not that they would) then my sudden deafness will result in flat hearing aid batteries so Ill have to read their lips instead :)

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Rainbow Six, they are about as likely to speak to you as I am to become a space engineer, or pope.
I don't even think they would say 'ouch' if you trod on their toes....accidentally of course.
This garb is meant to deter you from any level of communication....that is why it is bad for cohesion.

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what gets me about the head gear they wear is that i,ve lived over 50 years in areas of high muslim immigration and its only the last few years that it seems to have become an issue due to the number of women starting to dress this way. years ago it was rare to see one in full headress so the question is why do a good number of em decide to use this dress now.

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..and still more re the P.C. stuff. The longer I live the more I question the sanity of some folk who have nothing better to do than come up with stupid suggestions. The latest here is that a school in Sydney has changed Father’s Day and Mother’s Day celebrations to Parents’ and Carers’ Day, while several schools in Melbourne have changed their celebrations from Father’s Day to Special Person’s Day. (It’s Father’s Day here tomorrow). It’s all to do with making everyone ‘feel more comfortable’ irrespective of their family situation.

These moves have been described by people from various bodies as 'loopy' and 'political correctness gone mad' - I could think of stronger words to use.

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That is not much different to the PC brigade referring to Mothers to be as
'Pregnant people'....please enlighten me. How many men get pregnant?
I am fed up of hearing about all this pandering to what the media term as 'gender fluid' or 'non binary'. They are a small minority of the population, yet we are being foisted with gender neutral public lavatories just to make sure we do not offend these poor souls.

If you have male genitalia, then you are male...it is encrypted in your DNA....regardless of what your brain tells you.
And likewise, if you have female genitalia, you are biologically female.

I feel sorry for those who are genuinely confused about what gender they are, but feel that there are some who are just trying it on...in every sense of the word.

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the more they talk about it the more confused they will get. my partners brother actually wanted to be a dog and thought he was one as a kid. suppose nowadays there would be someone or organisation spouting on about encouraging his canine antic to fulfill himself.