Originally Posted by Hill Walker (Post 1245419)

?..Interestingly there have been no such howls of protest to the 'Smart Phone' gradually not only taking over this role but covering a much wider data set.... I wonder how long it will be before somebody suggests that it should officially take on this role?

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1245420)

As far as im concerned the only objectors to the National Identity Card were complete Balloons.

Originally Posted by Hill Walker (Post 1245419)

A few years ago there were some moves to introduce a National Identity Card. There were significant numbers of objections to this on the grounds of privacy, loss of civil liberty etc. Interestingly there have been no such howls of protest to the 'Smart Phone' gradually not only taking over this role but covering a much wider data set. For example the biometric data that was planned for the identity card never included such items as the size and colour of your underwear** or your shoe size or dietry preferences or locations regularly visited. Of course it does not officially perform this function - until you become 'a person of interest'. I wonder how long it will be before somebody suggests that it should officially take on this role?

** Significant errors are possible - you may have purchased items for your partner (or someone else!)

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1245423)

well Cashy, that makes me one then.


I do not wish to carry an identity card.
Who is going to ask me for it?


why do they need to know who I am?
Is their reason for asking me for it legal?


I have nothing to hide, but do not want to have to carry and identity card.
If I am knocked down in the street and I am on my own(quite rare these days) my purse will identify me.
It has my name and telephone number in it...and of course my bank card.

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1245422)

Not only has it been suggested it’s happening now.
In a few years if you don’t download your NHS app = no digital medical passport = no access to education, certain jobs/careers, travel....etc, etc.

This article, from a well-known right-wing conspiracy publication :rolleyes: explains what’s been happening in China and how 17.5 million people were denied airline travel because they didn’t add up to ‘good’ citizens.
This is what they mean by the “new normal”.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-credit-system

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1245426)

WELL nobodys perfect there are far too many illegals knocking about i do not wish to put up with that and nothing done simple as.

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1245443)

cashy, if we all had ID cards and had to carry em with us and show em when requested and would be fined if we didn,t you know the illegals would be told not to forget em next time. thats if they were stopped in the first place.

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1245424)

and that is one of the biggest reasons why I do not want a smartphone.

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1245446)

Not at all if people woke up and changed the law. yeh gotta start somewhere with these spongers.