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Todays Observer http://www.accringtonobserver.co.uk/..._id=11948.html

Is it not the Buses (20mph+though the no go zone) that are causing the problem
Trust our Council, to come up with a fantastic solution. :rolleyes:

Why not just "CLOSE IT TO ALL TRAFFIC" between 9AM to 6PM

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The buses are supposed to do 5mph along there. We've got a thread somewhere where one of our members sees nothing wrong with cars zooming through at 20 -25mph and that really is a problem.

Can't see this solution working for long because Peter Britcliffe doesn't like it. He says it isn't a road, it's a bed settee remember. :rolleyes:

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I see that the Council is still on form. And have come up with the usual solution, which is no solution at all. After all that has been said on this problem, after the accidents, the steaming half-wits go for temporary traffic lights. Why is it such a problem for them to get their heads round the idea that the bed-settee should be closed to all traffic,full stop.
Why do we need yet more bl**dy street furniture cluttering the area. Looking towards the Town Hall from little Blackburn Road all you can see is a forest of poles and signs. Atrractive it is not, and evidently motorists take not a blind bit of bl**dy notice of them anyway!

Now we begin to get some idea of where the council squanders it's money - Road signs!

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Why would Church Street be dangerous? Some buses approach from that direction already.

They are also able to approach from Little Blackburn Rd Peel Street and Infant Street. Perhaps the route in from Blackburn needs to be re-thought.

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I've just had another squint at the article and I think they are refering to Paradise Street which connects Eagle Street with Church Street. The concern is about people walking up and down St.James' Street.

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I was just pointing out the thoughts of the bus companies,
would a better route for the blackburn buses not be to turn left at the traffic lights (before the railway arch blackburn road) down to round about, up past the Castle pub, keeping to the right hand lane, on to the lights at Avenue parade, turn right and the straight down in to the Bus Station, busses leaving accrington for blackburn could take the same route. "Just a suggestion"

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Ooo! Joined up thinking. I can tell you don't work for HBC

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Are traffic calming measures not down to Lancashire County Council :confused:

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I know it might be over-simplistic but, what if the Blackburn road was turned into a throughfare that ALL traffic could use? This in itself would solve a few problems all at once! For example buses could travel along it saving them from having to divert along unsuitable side streets, Motorists could use it as a short cut from one side of Accrington to the other, Pedestrians could be re-trained to use pavements & look before they cross.
Strangers to the town would be able to see that we actually do have some shops left as they hurried through from Blackburn to Burnley (some may even be tempted to stop & spend a pound!).
Introducing this system could also mean that our blue boxes & paper sacks would no longer be required because Hyndburn would be able to reach their re-cycling quota just by scrapping the street signs.

But whatever happens it won't have anything at all to do with what the majority of us want.:bangh8:

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In any case they are going to have to go down King Street and under the arches when the new bus station is built. So I don't see why they cannot bite the bullet and close Blackburn Road completely.

On another tack, if Accrington is already liberally supplied with free carparks, why does every road into the town centre have to be lined with parked cars?

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There you go A-B I couldn't have thought of such a far reaching plan, You are absolutely correct, if they close Blackburn Rd from the Intack traffic lights all the people wanting to go to Burnley would be forced to use the M65 or Divert through Great Harwood thus easing the traffic all the way through Accrington.
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The best solutions are often the simplest ones.

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they should have left it open any way.i am a taxi driver and get nothing but earache off customers coming from church side of b/burn rd who want to go to the regency or the canine side of abbey st .why cant taxis use bus lanes? they can in b/burn.

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Check this weeks Observer, there's goina be another car park :confused: For 180 cars :confused:
with entrance via mini-roundabout on Paradise street :confused: But in the words of our "planning committee" the car park could have a barrier, and may not be available for public use at weekend, just the same as the Globe car parks :confused:
Bit off topic but worthy of a mention :D

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Another vote here with Less, Open the sodding thing back up and teach people how to cross the roads.

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Might this not be a suitable subject for a poll of opinion?

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no cant use bus lanes,infront of town hall,section of abbey street between ave parade and peel street,and the bus station it self can only use peel street from infant st to abbey st

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I wonder if they still do that in schools. I remember getting a visit off the Green Cross Code man who spent an afternoon showing us AWFUL videos of what happened when little boys and girls didn't know how to cross roads.

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problem still there Willow, a pelican crossing would mean white zig zags & the mayors driver getting fined every time he parked on them when the mayor is on an official visit, perhaps the answer would be to elect a mayor that can actually walk a short distance or even one that wouldn't be too proud to use a bus!

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Why can't they just dig the road up there good at that.look at Blackburn road
that would stop everyone using it .........

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would it be better to close blackburn road to traffic up to eagle streetclose the old bus station. and instead of trying to squeeze a new bus stationnear king street club, utilize the almost unused retail park on eastgate where only netto seem to manage to survive. the bus station would be very close to town, on a dual carriageway and the town centre could be a traffic free zone free of every tom dick and harry's old buses.

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that might be a good idea as half the shops are empty and a good proportion of the others let to charity shops at a reduced rent

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and the blackburn buses could turn left at the traffic lights, pass the cinema and bowling alley round the roundabout to eastgate traffic would flow more freely throughout the town.

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Here are a couple of maps to help clarify the situation re the bus station.

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thanks for that bob their doesn't seem a lot in the size of the plots does their but no.2 seems to have the position when you consider burnley and rossendale buses as well as blackburn

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Yes i think you are right willow that makes it quite a lot bigger than plot 1 and surely the better position

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The retail site on Eastgate, the Netto site, is I think a non runner for the simple reason that although most of the units are currently untenanted they are too new to demolish. I anticipate that the thinking would be that relocation of the bus station would bring increased footfall to the area and thus increase the desireability of the retail units.

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Hey, HBC have teamed up with Big Brother to sort this out,

high powered top gun from Big Brother is on the case :eek:

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cant really see how a new bus station would increase footfall and certainly a retail park accomodating just a netto definately wont its a difficult one but i think that opening up the town centre to foot traffic instead of having to run the gauntlet with some of the current infrastructure would improve our town for everyone.

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I don't see that the location of the bus station will have much bearing on the number of people coming into the town. We just have far too many empty shops and scruffy areas. Exactly what is there in Accrington to entice anyone to visit? Already two of the new shops in the "Wilkinson's block" are empty again.

The location of the bus station needs to be for the benefit of local residents.

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It could be down to HBC charging 'high' business tax!

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The Eastgate park has only one emty unit A-b. Netto and Pounstrecher have been ther for ages, Motormania have recently opened the old Halfords leaving just the old CBS unit empty.

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Thanks for that Entwisi. Along with many others, it's ages since I have been anywhere near there, I suppose I am just not a "Netto" sort of person.

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is anyone else aware that the one way system in accrington and all the traffic lights etc were desighned and implimented by a man who didnt even have a driving licence

i forget his name but instead of been sacked he was moved to another area

blackburn i think it was the poor buggers lol

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That sounds about right. I'm sure a closer scrutiny of the people HBC employ would bring to light even more howlers like that.

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I dont think they will ever get the bus station right, i didnt like much the old one but least buses didnt change stops as much. Its kind of chaos now specially if Wilko's gets a delivery been a few hairy moments.

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