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Busman747 10-03-2005 15:31

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I am sure that most people now just glance at most adverts in magazines without rushing out to buy the products, but I was particularly annoyed at one full-page ad that appeared in last months "Saga" magazine. (For those that are not aware, this monthly mag is aimed at the over 50's so I have no idea why they send it to me:o )

If there is one thing I will not tolerate, it is outrageous claims made in mags and newspapers and I often wonder how the papers are allowed to print them:mad:

In case you cannot see all the print from the thumbnail, I will give you the gist of what they are saying:

Firstly, they point out that this product is mainly for those that do not even know how to turn on a P.C, and by buying their course, you can learn IN TWO HOURS!! the following:

What sort of computer you need if you do not have one,
Type and print your own letters with no mistakes or grammatical errors,
Get to grips with word processing, spreadsheets,accounts, desktop publishing.....even games!
Learn how to create Christmas and Birthday cards,
Design your own letter heads and business cards,
PLUS..... Discover how to use the "world Wide Web"
Learn about e-mails, send photo's to anyone around the world...
and you will also learn how to "tweak" your P.C. to make it go faster!!

If you can learn all that in just 2 hours, just imagine what you can learn in a day!

You can buy a copy of this amazing program for just £11.90 inc postage but if you buy 2 copies, you save £4.00!!!
Eer, Why would anyone want two copies????

Finally, they ask that you fill in the form giving your name, Address, Post code, Date of Birth, Card Number, Start date, Expiry Date, and Issue number.

Couldn't you have some fun with a pensioners life savings if you managed to intercept the post!!:rolleyes:

Oh yea, If you are not delighted with the product you have one year to return it for a full refund......

garinda 10-03-2005 15:42

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Agreed it's patronising if they're just going to target the over 50's, but l could do with it! l was to young for computers to be used at school, and just bumble along blindly. l do get s scared when it all goes wrong.

I'm sure there are courses at the libarary available for people like me, were you won't need to pass over all your financial identity.. lt can be such a joy when it works properly, like this site infact

Acrylic-bob 10-03-2005 15:43

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Errrmmm, If this CD is aimed primarily at people who do not know how to turn their computer on, how do they get the cd in the machine, never mind access the tutorial? Or what do they do if they haven't got a computer to turn on?

vorlon24 10-03-2005 15:57

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That's because its a book, A-B!

That said, I don't believe 2 hours at all.

I certainly won't be wasting my money on it, that's for sure!

Busman747 10-03-2005 15:58

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It doesn't actually say that it is on C.D, I got the impression that it was in the form of a book or pamphlet......

At the top, it is endorsed by a woman who is a retired teacher, teacher trainer, inspector of schools, and a school governor.......she says quote: "I have no qualms about recommending this book to fellow governors, teachers, colleagues, student teachers, support staff and parents"
I would have thought that most people in these positions would have worked out the basics of computers by now.

I wonder how much she got paid for that....or if she really exists?:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 10-03-2005 16:05

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Please read carefully. It's a "course". And you can get your money back anytime within 1 year if you're not completely satisfied.

garinda 10-03-2005 16:06

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lt's amazing what the silly Tristrams in advertising think we'll need, and to who it's aimed at.

Is there a nice piccy of that nice Frank Thornton, showing us something we really need in this months issue? Well it's nice they can all have a piece of the pie now Dame Thora's no longer here.

Busman747 10-03-2005 16:18

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Please read carefully. It's a "course". And you can get your money back anytime within 1 year if you're not completely satisfied.

Yes tealeaf but it says in the advert quote"Just start at chapter one and work through the course. IT TAKES JUST TWO HOURS AND BEFORE LONG...etc"

It is very misleading exactly what you get for your money but it is certainly intended to mislead pensioners into thinking they can become "A computer Whiz in just two hours" (their words)

I am sure it is a useful book but it was the continual reference to the two hours that has got me so riled.....

And how can you trust a company that is trying to sell two copies of the same book with cash incentives?

vorlon24 10-03-2005 16:20

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One for you and one for someone else.

Or nothing for you and money for them.

Then they disappear and reappear on Watchdog...

Busman747 10-03-2005 16:22

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Originally Posted by vorlon24
Then they disappear and reappear on Watchdog...

Got it in one vorlon:)

pendy 10-03-2005 16:33

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How do they expect, in two hours, to get you typing a letter with no mis-spellings and no grammatical errors? I have come across secretaries who can't do that after years of experience!

On a lighter note, I once worked with a sec (at the Royal Free) who was totally computer illiterate, to her it was just a fancy typewriter. After she left every evening, I used to log on to her machine and change the screen saver, leaving her little messages as to what she had said/what had happened/etc during the day. She never cottoned on .... she used to say in amazement "It can hear me!! - It knows what I do!".

So, how to teach someone who has never used one in two hours ..........

Acrylic-bob 10-03-2005 16:36

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Oh right it's a book not a cd. Where did I get that idea from????? I think I'll stick to slapping HBC around it's collective head from now on. Less chance of making mistakes there. Whatever it is I accuse them of they're bound to be guilty of it.:D

Tealeaf 10-03-2005 16:39

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Originally Posted by Busman747
Yes tealeaf but it says in the advert quote"Just start at chapter one and work through the course. IT TAKES JUST TWO HOURS AND BEFORE LONG...etc"

It

Busman, I think everyone on here can see that this is a scam. My own guess is that the book/cd is merely an idiot's guide, cut and pasted fron elsewhere. It probably arrives with various other scam offers as well, such as "send us a cheque for thirty quid and we'll show you how you can make hundreds of pounds a day from your new-found computer skills."

What is that telephone number in the advert....is that a premium rate number?

garinda 10-03-2005 17:35

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My then seven old then weedy brother, saved up his pocket money after seeing the Charles Atlas advert in the newspaper. The one about not getting sand kicked in your eyes, and therefore impressing the girls.
At the time l remember it was quite expensive, and all he got was a flimsy pamphlet and a giant rubber band. Sand was still kicked, and l think he was twelve before he got a girlfriend.

grannyclaret 10-03-2005 18:35

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i would be very wary of any advert asking for personal details,i tried to get some smilies and when it asked to fill in details i panicked and clocked off.i certainly wouldent give bank details ......iam still thick where computers are concerned,i use it only for entertainment and e,mails ,i dont think i can absorb any more information so 2hours would be useless to me ,,but its still a good idea to think twice at these adverts ....(good thread )

WillowTheWhisp 10-03-2005 22:22

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Busman, I think everyone on here can see that this is a scam. My own guess is that the book/cd is merely an idiot's guide, cut and pasted fron elsewhere. It probably arrives with various other scam offers as well, such as "send us a cheque for thirty quid and we'll show you how you can make hundreds of pounds a day from your new-found computer skills."

You may well be right that all of us on here can see that it's a scam ... or at the very least it can't possibly teach you how to master all thosse things from scratch in just two hours. I've seen a computer novice at her first lesson spending most of the time looking for where the keys were on her keyboard. Telling her it's a "querty" board just like a typewriter did nothing to help because it was all the "funny f things" that were throwing her into a panic. These are the sort of people who will see that ad and have no idea how impossible its claims are.

vorlon24 11-03-2005 08:01

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And in a lot of cases (not all, admittedly), these are the people who are less able to afford to lose the money

garinda 11-03-2005 19:44

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My Mum today got the book she'd sent away for 'The Miracles of Vinegar.' lt's advertised in the press all the time. Don't bother, a cheap flimsy book told less than Aggie does on 'How Clean is Your House.' All gleamed from other sources, no miracle cures, and all for £9.95.


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