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garinda 28-03-2005 03:08

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Leave for where?


Was the milkman heading towards Ossy? Oh, goodie!

Tinkerbelle 28-03-2005 03:09

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Oh god, get your baby doll nightie ready Tinks!

I still have it on from last night garinda I'm well prepared :D !!

chav1 28-03-2005 03:10

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ok time to get this thread back on topic :D

garinda 28-03-2005 03:12

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The moderators gonna whip Chavs ass for turning a serious thread into smut city.

chav1 28-03-2005 03:14

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Originally Posted by garinda
The moderators gonna whip Chavs ass for turning a serious thread into smut city.

i dunno about that plenty of others started talking crap way before i arrived on the scene lol

just incase though

cya in a few days lol

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perhaps if we post a page of serious posts peopel will skip past the last 2 pages and we will get away with it ..?

Tinkerbelle 28-03-2005 03:18

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Originally Posted by chav1
i dunno about that plenty of others started talking crap way before i arrived on the scene lol

just incase though

cya in a few days lol

Cya there Chav I have a feeling I'm coming with you :D it's all fun and games till someone loses a bo***k!! Glad I ain't got none for the moderators to squeeze !!

chav1 28-03-2005 03:23

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the funny thing is if they do an ip block not only will i be blocked for a few days but so will my mrs lol

thats when i will realy get a slap

Tinkerbelle 28-03-2005 03:26

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the funny thing is if they do an ip block not only will i be blocked for a few days but so will my mrs lol

thats when i will realy get a slap

Tell her it was an accident you didn't mean to post that stuff voices in your head told you too, I'm sure she will forgive you I just hope my pet doesn't die while I'm gone PMSL!!!!

yerself 28-03-2005 04:52

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Has anyone heard of the conversation held between two rather well-spoken ladies in Accrington Arndale Centre.

"I say Ariadne, I thought you said you always voted Labour."
"I do Persephone, I do."
"Well why have you placed a vote Conservative poster in your window?"
"Oh I didn't want to lower the tone of the neighbourhood you know."

Acrylic-bob 28-03-2005 07:16

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At the risk of sounding like "Outraged of Tunbridge Wells", I have to ask if this thread wander was really necessary? What are new members to think of us if we trash their threads in this way? I think an apology to Charlie may be in order here.

garinda 28-03-2005 08:33

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Guilty as charged A-b, it was the middle of the night and all the vioices of reason were asleep.

I look at as more building bridges, and it was more fun for me than earlier in the thread [the serious part.] when everyone was picking on me! [Boo-hoo!]

chav1 28-03-2005 12:25

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yeah we shuoldnt have trashed the thread i guess a bit of light humour was introduced to end the argueing and then it turned into one big joke between the 3 of us and we got carried away

starnge how a post starting by saying we were bullies and biggots ended up with tinkerbell in her nightie and garinda hoping the milkman was on his way to ozzy

anyway i appologise for trashing the post we shoulda started our own thread but to be honest

tinkerbell made me do it :signntme:

Tinkerbelle 28-03-2005 12:56

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
At the risk of sounding like "Outraged of Tunbridge Wells", I have to ask if this thread wander was really necessary? What are new members to think of us if we trash their threads in this way? I think an apology to Charlie may be in order here.

My apologies again too

It's Chav and garinda's fault, they are a bad influence on me :angel:

janet 28-03-2005 13:12

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After reading the last few pages, i have come to the conclusion that you are all mad. Had a good laugh at your ramblings.lol

garinda 28-03-2005 17:58

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Last comment and appology from me, just be grateful you didn't see the P.M's flying about as well, they were truly foul, we did exercise a little restraint!

Charlie 30-03-2005 01:07

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Last comment and appology from me, just be grateful you didn't see the P.M's flying about as well, they were truly foul, we did exercise a little restraint!

Trash my post! right wing activist eh.. its all propaganda..get Maggie back.. she'd stop it!

T.C. 30-03-2005 13:17

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Labour all the way

Good. Another Man. U. supporter. T.C.

Bagpuss 31-03-2005 19:28

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Originally Posted by Graham Jones
BTW we lost a lot of money [£35,000] this week due to 'everyone being friends' and there being no-one to question a corrupt decision. Cant say more, I dont want to get sued especially as Jonathan Dillon [Ob] and Dave Higgerson [LET] have been trawling this site.

Are you in a position to add anymore to this yet Graham as it got my interest and would love to know more.

Graham Jones 31-03-2005 20:56

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Sorry I can't. I would get sued unfortunately.

Wages, salaries, bonus's, perks, consultancy fee's are always confidential information unless its councillors who are benefitting. It may be a question for full council on the 26th, though it will be obvious who/why the public purse was 'robbed' IMHO and why we are now £35,000 light.

Bagpuss 31-03-2005 21:47

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Originally Posted by Graham Jones
Sorry I can't. I would get sued unfortunately.

Wages, salaries, bonus's, perks, consultancy fee's are always confidential information unless its councillors who are benefitting. It may be a question for full council on the 26th, though it will be obvious who/why the public purse was 'robbed' IMHO and why we are now £35,000 light.

It sounds like you didn't agree with the decision?

Graham Jones 02-04-2005 07:51

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss
It sounds like you didn't agree with the decision?

DISGUSTED. £35,000 is 1% on the Council Tax and if you knew where it had gone you would be fuming like me and others I cant name for sensitive reasons.

What it is is a statement on how bad HBC has been run. As I have said previously our current top man, Mr Welsby, I dont think we could employ anyone better. However there's a lot of problems to resolve.

garinda 02-04-2005 08:38

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^5 Graham for quoting The Clash!

l bet our newest Councillor hasn't heard of them though, if she comes on here she might quote from Missy Elliot!

It's better than Vera Lynne though, at least we are moving in the right direction.
Out with the old in with the new.

Acrylic-bob 02-04-2005 09:10

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This wouldn't have anything to do with departure of Nigel Rix would it Graham? If it was then I am sure that most people would regard it as money well spent if it meant that he was finally out of our hair.

Margaret Pilkington 02-04-2005 19:56

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I have read this thread with great interest..........this is accyweb at its best (well apart from a bit of a thread wander in the middle of the night).

I have always seen Accyweb as a place where opinions can be aired........you do not have to agree with MY opinion.......and I do not have to agree with YOUR opinion......but we are both entitled to the opinions we hold.

I think Willow and A-B are very articulate in the way they state their opinions........ and Charlie, it is human nature to moan about life in general. I think your opinion of us on the site is unjustified......but you are entitled to your opinion.

Graham Jones 03-04-2005 20:45

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
This wouldn't have anything to do with departure of Nigel Rix would it Graham? If it was then I am sure that most people would regard it as money well spent if it meant that he was finally out of our hair.

I cant answer the Nigel Rix question as Nigel was obviously a former employee who 'left to go to pasture new' whatever that means.

This issue wasn't related to money well spent though. I think I said I was disgusted because with no opposition political or otherwise, bad decisions get made by likeminded fence sitting unopinionated yes people who habitat dark corridors with to much frequency. In this case £35,000 laundered out of the public purse could only be made by people at the top? And these situations are more likely to occur when organisations gain independency or some degree of autonomy from public accountability.

SOAP BOX TIME:)
Al I can say is this. Crap councillors make for a crap council. But there is no excuse for subsituting democracy, however bad, for something else eg quangos [ELP, ELEVATE, SURE START, HYNDBURN FIRST, LSP are Hyndburns worst offenders] and delegation to individuals however professional they may be in those organisations. This has been Hyndburns major downfall.

[And at this point in the debate you get the one pillock at the back shouting 'Councillors just want to keep control', like there is a credible alternative that no-one but them has ever thought of.] That mentality has just cost £35,000.

Acrylic-bob 03-04-2005 21:56

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I can understand your reluctance to name and shame, but this is too tantalising. Is it likely that this shameful piece of laundry will be eventually washed in public or will we be left to figure the details out on our own?

Bagpuss 11-05-2005 22:20

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Originally Posted by Graham Jones
Sorry I can't. I would get sued unfortunately.

Wages, salaries, bonus's, perks, consultancy fee's are always confidential information unless its councillors who are benefitting. It may be a question for full council on the 26th, though it will be obvious who/why the public purse was 'robbed' IMHO and why we are now £35,000 light.

The 26th came and went but I have still not heard anything Graham, as you can't tell us could you point me in the right direction so I could find out more.

chav1 11-05-2005 23:15

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i find that an alternative name rather than your real name is usefull when you feel you may be done for slander

cant sue if they cant prove you said it ;)



dont misunderstand ime not suggesting you sighn up from an internet cafe under a false name and tell us the dirt

wink wink :D

lettie 12-05-2005 15:40

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What an interesting thread, I seem to have missed this while I've been away. Recently I have read several threads where there tends to be a recurring theme and that is bullying.

I have been a member of this site for almost 2 years and can honestly say that I have never experienced bullying. I have experienced eloquent debate on various issues affecting the everyday lives of the people of Hyndburn. I have experienced good laughs on the fun threads and made new friends and aquaintances who have become very dear to me.

If well worded debate can be seen as bullying then what has the world come to. People can only be bullied if they allow themselves to be. ........or, do the people who seem to think they are being bullied feel that way because other people's opinions are different from their own and therefore they see them as bullies. Maybe people see me as a bully? Personally I couldn't care less and am entitled to my opinion even when it is in total opposition to that of somebody else..:)

If our site comes across as right wing because a few people voice their opinions about the travellers, immigrants, state of the town etc, then so be it. I will voice my opinion about these issues because I care about the town and country that I live in and I hate to see the deterioration of our standards of living in general. I hate to see unfairness when one section of the community is favoured over another because they are deemed a minority group, which is in itself racism. I hate that travellers come here, pitch up and proceed to dump their rubbish in the borough and nobody does anything about it. I am not naive enough to believe that all members of all parties will pull together and work as a team. I am perhaps hopeful enough to want to see the day when somebody with just a smidgeon of common sense runs our country, no matter which party they belong to. Would it be too much to ask to have somebody with a bit of sense running our borough.

If saying that I want to see those things makes me a bully, a nimby, a racist or just plain hopeful, then I'm guilty as charged.:D

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2005 19:43

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Very well said Lettie.....!

Margaret Pilkington 12-05-2005 19:46

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The other thing about bullying.........there are moderators on our site and if the people who feel there is bullying going on were to report it I'm sure it would be investigated.

In fact the bullied could report the bulliers....so why don't they.......?

WillowTheWhisp 12-05-2005 21:02

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I'm probably repeating myself but perhaps some people need to learn how to make the distinction between disagreeing with a point of view and disliking the person who puts forward that point of view. I can still like someone even if I don't share their opinions on everything. Sometimes an opposing point of view can be so eloquently put forward that my own opinion can be swayed. That's what makes a good debate so worthwhile. Sometimes we learn from each other, sometimes we may change our minds, sometimes we end up feeling even more strongly about our original point of view.


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