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just watched jamie olivers program about making school dinners healthy for kids and it mentioned that all the government allow per child for a meal is 37p

am i alone in thinking this is digusting considering how much taxes we pay and how many millions of pounds are spent on much less important things...?

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Thats why I sighned his petition Chav! If any people feel strongly the link is on a thread by Purplelass!

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As a singleton have my 37p.
See l give as well as take.
How much is your Daily Sport?
:)

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That is really bad news!!!
Come on folks,get yourself on jamies schools dinners thread and follow the link and sign the petition!

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i dont buy newspapers i have the internet ;)


what ime trying to say is i dont think you could feed a dog on 37p aday so how does our government come up with 37p for a good healthy childrens meal

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First and foremost I totally agree with you. I think it a case of the price is based on value of numbers and quite often meals or the plain or cheap seats type packaged verities. I don’t know if School cooks have autonomy when purchasing food stuffs are not but the stuff they do get must be subsidised in some way. My son costs me £10.00 - £15.00 per week and most of it goes on pop, crisps, bacon or sausage barn cakes and the like. Again payment for this is based on a swipe card type system. I’m not too sure about Jamie Oliver’s motives, but the fact that this has been highlighted nationally can only be good for the health of our kids. I would personally encourage people to sign his petition as posted else where by purplelass

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l was only being Cheeky Chav, after our vitual theesome last night.


I totally agree, l wouldn't like to keep a dog for .37p per day, never mind a growing child.

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QUOTE=PurpleLass]As a parent I am concerned about the junk that our children are being fed at lunchtime. I know it's hard to persuade kids that a carrot is tasty but it's even harder when they are allowed to eat fish fingers and chips or chicken nuggets and chips every day at school. When I was at school our lunch consisted of the very traditional meat and two veg. If you are a parent, or even a grandparent, please sign your name to Jamie Oliver's petition. He has highlighted a real issue for the future of our children - see his website about it and sign the petition on www.feedmebetter.com. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Jason's right but I plonked this on here to help find the link if you want to sighn up folks!:) .

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Excuse me for being numb again :o were does Jamie Oliver come by the sum of 37p. When my kids were on school dinners it cost me £1.50 a day or £7.50 a week and even after that the teachers said the meals were subsidized on top? With the exception of my eldest my kids are now on pack lunches at least then you know what they are eating.

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jamie oliver didnt come up with the price thats what the head teacher told him the government allows a school for each child

if a school wants to spend more money on food they have to take it from the money that is set aside for teachers and books etc

some schools may have the luxury of a bit of spare cash left over from books and teachers etc or parents may be asked to pay a bit extra to help out but in general i would say most schools dont have that luxury and have to stick within a budget that the government sticks on meals

jamie oliver has not yet been able to make a good healthy meal for 37p they have all gone over the budget and they were basic things like vegetables and rice

i think its disgracefull that we have mountains of food rotting in barns over the country because farmers are paid not to sell them as not to upset the economy

i forget the techicle name but ime on about stuff liek potato mountains and butter mountains etc

that food could be given to schools free and is good food not chicken burgers and stuff


i also think its digracefull that they have butter mountains and wont let us slide down them but thats off topic lol

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Don't you go setting me off topic again, after the heavy going, serious stuff in Gayles thread I could do with letting off steam with some silly banter of 101 thigs to do on a butter mountain :D

I am really bemused by the 37p bit I need more explanation, it just doesn't make sense I pay £1.50 per day and they get 37p worth of food either I'm very thick or them sums just don't add up !!

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hi. i used to work on school meals , im very sorry to say i did'nt reign very long cos i was disgusted at the allowance & amount that the kids had for their lunch , i threw caution to the wind & fed "my kids " wot i thought they should have, none of it was junk . chips mabe once a week much to the kids delight , but i still say they did not get enough !!!!!! T he paper work & allowances & portion control , working for the county is enough to give more than one or two cooks a headache , "me nearly a nervous breakdown", i was glad i told the boss of catering were to put his bits of paper . ooops gone to far

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its more than likely your kids school put on better food than others so you pay a bit extra

also may be paying to help towards the cost of those who cant afford the extra like those on free meals

not sure how school dinners work any more

out of curiosioty what do your kids have on offer at their school as all that was on offer at teh school jamie oliver was at was economy burgers , fish fingers or cheap nast lookin cheeze and tomoto piza

all with chips i might add

maybe we have a head teacher here or a dinner lady who can put soem light on this

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I have a menu lieing about somewere for childrens meals. They have a mascot now called Hot Pot. If I find it over night I will post it in the morning. ( the menu not the mascot :D )

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i think you have just answere your own question

hot pot would definatly not be affordable on the government budget so i figure you are paying extra so your kids can have decent food and not the crap served in the 37p meals

edit:

hahaha hotpot is the mascot lol

anyway if they served vegetables at all it would put them over the 37p budget

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That's fine I will keep paying the (get's calculator) £1.13 for Hotpot he's rather cute :D !

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Look's like Hotpot is in all primary schools here's abit of info on him

Hotpot is the school lunch mascot for Lancashire's primary school catering service. It helps children to recognise and enjoy balanced food choices that are good for them. The 'Hotpot cares' campaign informs school children not only about catering issues, but also about getting active, the environment, how to stay safe in the dark and much, much more. You will often find Hotpot in schools at lunchtime during the many special fun events he organises.

aaahh found a pic isn't he cute?

Chav meet Hotpot
Hotpot meet chav

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The 37p must be a subsidy. Without it you would be paying £1.85 per week extra for your school meals. I think Jamie Oliver is being a little stupid trying to make meals for 37p. He must believe that kids should get free school meals.

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Jamie's little one [the eldest,] goes to Hill House School in Kensington, fees per annum approx. £9,000, not including lunches or their teas.

We must remember that 37p is an average per child, if you mutiply it out when they're purchasing the food for a lot of children, it does give them a lot more buying power than if we went to Accy market with 37p.

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Yep ive been watching it like last nite when Jamie was up in front of the head because his stuff went over the 37p rate rocketing to 62p-72p-£1 for the heathlier options n that it doesn't get subsidised from the LEA but from the school itself!?! I think what Jamie is tryin to do is positive i think there should be more healthier approach to school meals BUT i dont know about any of u tho this day n age is about fast food like MD's, BK & KFC promoting pressure to kids n parents also the fact of convienence food ready meals etc AND i know im gonna be slated now but if anyone can tell me how they do it these days would be grateful for a balanced disc, but when i did home Ec the best we learned to make was fruit salad, sausage roll n salad not rocket science luckily my mum taught me how to do a roast dinner - so a bit saved LOL, but is it any wonder i have the reliance on a bit of convience help. I hope they do make the dinners more healthy cos the dinner ladys at my kids school are gr8 for my fussy son who will try owt for them n even eat it n will not for me no matter how many bribes are in force!! LOL

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Yeh thats one thing with sandwiches but even then can struggle with the variety n what about in winter u cant take a warm prep meal or soup, its ok to bring em home for lunch if u are in but those whom work cant, so even parents choice is limited.

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Most kids probably do get free school meals anyway n are probably the majority it still doesn't change the figure or what the meals are tho.

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Yep I agree, I said this In another post!!! Thats why I put Mine on school dinners because I hate them not having something warm to eat for dinner in winter. Summer isn't too bad, but winter needs warm food in them.

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Thing i also have noticed as well in my job the amount of kids that dont have breakfast [i know some ppl dont n are fine not aving a go] n complain of being hungry n lathargic n having nothing for 1st break, teachers keep a couple of bags of crisp or fruit as extra's for these kids in order they can maintain till dinner.

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I don't eat breakfast, Just not a breakfast person but, I am a adult and can make my own mind up. Poor kids, they must be starving by dinner time. I would be gutted if I sent my kids to school with no breakfast.........what are these people thinking??

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So true Slinky, i was warned in off training that we may come across cases n yes there is quite a few which u can spot straight away these poor kids have parents that dont really care or can be arsed to even give em a snack for break.

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That is a wild quote, can you substanciate it with some LEA figures.

When kids get free meals who pays for them?

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I'm not a breakfast person either (must be a family thing :D lol) but poor kids that is just pure neglect not to give them at least a bowl of cereal or toast before they go to school. But saying that my eldest has just decided she's not a breakfast person, it makes her feel sick she says, I've told her the benefits of eating breakfast but force feeding a 12 year old that is the same size as me is getting to be a struggle these days lol!

As for a hot meal at dinner times my kids change their eating habits as often as their undies! First they want a school dinner because their friend is on dinners then they want to be on packed lunches because they have a new friend that is on packed lunches! Their choice, mum just goes with the flow and tries to remember who wants what and on what day ;) !

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Something u'll not get accurate figures for dont forget its gov ran thing, tho for every family living on benefits like IS the children are entitled to free school meals...how many families are on IS in this town dont take much to say majority in primary schools. Who pays for em ....well obviously the tax payer does in taxes.

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Thats a disgrace should be a lot more than that

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I must admit i dont think anyone really knew how much per head dinners was until this prog.

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prisoners get allowed £1.40 a meal i think it said on jamies website

absolutely disgusting that children get less

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Bloody heck no wonder there is an up serge in inmates n wondered why they wanna go back gee something tells me priorities are all wrong!!!!

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it should be tother way round crims get less than children, crims had a choice but kids dont arrgghh thats infuriating

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if you think about it criminals also get a btter shot at a good education as well

how many criminals get free college courses and probably dont have to share their teacher with 40 other pupils like our kids do

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Because of Jamie Olivers highlighting of the school dinner issue, the Government today announced an extra £220 million to be spread over three years to improve school dinners.

The election approaches-
Let them eat cake!
Thanks Tony.

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It sounds to me like Tinks is paying for more than her fair share. If the IS or whoever pay 37p per meal per child, why is she paying £1.50. i think Jamie Oliver is only telling us the facts he wants us to hear. What is the real figure that IS ( if that is who pays it ) pay for each meal? Does anybody know?

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The 37p is the lowest average cost of producing a meal, most spent more than the 37p.
Like l posted earlier, in a school of a thousand kids this equals £370 per meal which allows better buying power whole sale, especially if they buy in weekly/monthly.
Jamie has used a bit of spin, must have picked it up from his mate Tony, but at least it's worked.
Luv'erly Jubberly, sorted.

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The government have offered another £280m towards school meals. Which is over 3 years. Equates to about £3.50 extra per child per year, or less than 10p a week or 2p per day. Big fat hairy deal! And they think it's going to be an vote-grabber for parents!

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;) I wish Jamie would come n teach me to cook:D

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Like i said weren't having a go on non breakfast folk n no u can force feed a child the ones im on about are neglect of lack of parenting skills when u spot these kids n ask em if they have had breakfast they say no n say they are hungry n are given something to eat as it does effect their concentration n are lethargic due to being hungry.

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Hehehe he had a go at sandwiches last nite just while we was on the subject yesterday, tho never had the pleasure of those dairylea lunchables his face said it all, but like we discussed yesterday sandwiches can be limiting as to what u can send kids to school with.

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Having been a school governor for 20 years, I seem to remember that the 37p is a subsidy on top of what parents pay. However, the total, subsidy and payment, has also to fund free school meals. Since in some schools over half the children are on free meals, it does make it more expensive for the parents who do pay. As always, those who can pay, do pay both ways, through taxes and direct - under LMS (Local Management of Schools) the Head and the governors are responsible for setting the school budget - not easy, because there always seems to be more need than there is money, but the budget for my primary school of around 300 children, the last year I was chair of governors, was as I remember about £650,000!

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Yeah Pendy they were sayin something like that last nite that anything extra or over would have to come out of other funds like books, seems a lot of robbing peter to pay paul.

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Regardless of what difference this will make to children each day, it will be a vote winner. lt looks like the Government have listened to public opinion through Jamie Oliver, and bowed to pressure. Long term benefits won't be the main concern of this 'gift' to the electorate.

Just heard Jamie Oliver on the radio, he talks a lot of sense. He should go into politics, he'd make more of an impact than other celebrity MP's.

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Thats just about what I expected! The money for free school meals should not come from the school. The school should calculate the amount required for a school meal and subtract the 37p subsidy, this is the amount paying parents should pay.

For the free meals children the schools should claim the money for their meals from DSS or IS or whoever decided those parents don't need to pay. Paying parents should not by charged the extra.

Eventually we appear to have got to the bottom of the 37p. It is not supposed to pay for all the meal, just subsidise it. If Jamie Oliver is trying to produce meals for 37p he must not understand this.

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Well they will bow down to pressure but they haven't really made much a diff n us parents arn't stooopid as to why they are doing it .....mmmm bagsy who wants my vote?!!

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Thankgod for that I've just been reading this thread thinking it doesn't make sense :o !! So it's not me that's thick it's Jamie Oliver phew :D

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Sadly a lot of people [those that bother to vote,] aren't as intelligent as you.

Look who was elected into leading HBC.

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PMSL Garinda tell me about it to much niaveness or gullableness HBC is a shambles atm lol tho ta 4 the compliment :)

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Eh im confused!!!! :confused: so whats the 37p bit then?? subsidised to how much?! oh brain ache :( the school according to the prog subsidises the extra do they dont they ???

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Can I reserve judgement on that for a while longer please? :D:D

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The 37p is the bit the government give to the school to go towards the meal not for the meal. That is why it is a subsidy and not the total cost.

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l'm just glad kids still get subsidised or free meals whilst at school. l bet they've thought of stopping them altogether.
When Thatcher was Minister for Education in Heath's Government she stopped the free milk for every child that we used to get.
[It was always a bit warm, and made me feel peculiar!]

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You can you cheeky boy :D but only because I'm still reserving judgement on it myself!!

I sort of saw abit of it last night but me and Slinky were on the wine so I can't remeber alot of what happened !!

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Ah thanx Neil i understand now tis all confusing all these figures tho suppose then the standard are attributed to the LEA n the schools funding to top it up ie why they charge £1.50 n its just gone up an all

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Yeh i remember that LOL cheeky kids warm milk pmsl!!

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why do people keep saying jamie is sayin 37p to put a bit of a spin on the situation

the fact is the head teacher who has her budget given to her from the government which is 37p gave jamie that target he didnt make it up himself thats why he is infuriated that he cant make a decent health meal for that amount

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The Head must be trying to use the 37p subsidy to pay for the whole meal so as not to charge any children extra. Unless of course the majority of the children get free meals so the Head can't rip off any paying parents!!