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Today (Tuesday), is my refuse collection day this week it's my wheelie bin collection day. Building up before this day every fortnight is the pile upon pile of often disgusting waste that my neighbours & others decide to put in the back alley hoping that some-one else will do something about it. Often because I live in a gable end house it is piled against my house wall.
At last the council have decided to take action, how? Well it's quite obvious how, because I live in the nearest house to this mounting pile of sh*te It must be mine so the council has issued me with a warning that I must mend my ways or suffer the consequences that they are prepared to bring down upon me.
So I now not only have my neighbours sh*tting on me week in week out, I also have the local council quite prepared to sh*t on me from an even greater height.

I live on my own and am very happy to do so, why would my neighbours think that I would wish to adopt and care for this ever increasing pile is beyond me.

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Write back to them and tell them the situation,if it falls on deaf ears take it further,keep copies of all your letters that you send to anyone,then you can fight them all the way.
These people think they can do what they want because they work in a council office,dont let them get away with it............the facists!!

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Get right back onto them and make it clear that it isn't your rubbish. The council seem to think they are judge and Jury. Its time we let them know that this isn't the case and teh burdon of proof is still on them.

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Have you asked the council what proof they have that it is your rubbish?

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I've sent them an e-mail this morning will await the reply with baited breathe.
:D

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They're probably going to use the provisions of the Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 and keep you under house arrest so you can't nip out and dump your rubbish in the middle of the night.

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Get your camera out and take some picks of them adding to your waste and let the council have them

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This is not as daft as it may first sound!!!! Ask for a representative of the council to call and visit you the next time they dump their rubbish. Offer the council bloke a pair of disposable rubber gloves and ask him to search the rubbish for written evidence that cites the neighbours as the culprits, when he has the proof, demand an apology and compensation for there mistake….

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that is a very very good idea doug..........because if they start finding nappies,baby jars (foe example) this proves that it is NOT less's stuff because as he clearly stated he lives on his own, so what would he be using these things for. The council have threatened that if they find bin bags on back alleys and not in wheelie bins ''THEY WILL SEARCH THEM FOR EVIDENCE OF THE OWNER AND PROSECUTE'' yeah WELL GET ON WITH IT THEN you idle sh'ts.
Sorry about that but they are really annoying me now the council, and they should be prosecuted FOR WASTING OUR BL''DY TIME!!!!!
Let us know how you get on less mate........;) and keep going til something is done.

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agree 100% with slinky,they bug the crap out of me also(jobsworths) do not surrender,less keep at em,N.L.T.B.G.Y.D.

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Was your letter similar to the one I just received Less, entitled "Refuse Collection Warning Letter" ? My reaction to it was "blooming cheek!"

They reckon several people in my area have already been fined £50. Well let them just try and fine me £50! There is NOTHING, not one item, not one teensy weensy bit of an item in my wheelie bin that is possibly recyclable. All my recyclables are plonked in the respective receptacles and who doesn't take them when they should? Hyndborg Council Refuse Dept that's who! Who told me to leave my paper sack outside for the best part of a fortnight because they forgot to collect it when they emptied the box and the blue sack? HCRD that's who. We have made several trips to the tip recently in order to recycle stuff that they won't flippin well collect as recyclable but which I don't put into my wheelie bin because it is recyclable.

They have powers you know. It says so in the letter. I just wish those powers included the ability to pick up the rubbish they drop every Wednesday around these parts. I shall be out with my camera again tomorrow to collect evidence if necessary, and I shall be making phone calls.

Good luck to you Less if they try fining you for rubbish that isn't yours. At least now we've got a name of a responsible person to contact. The Waste Services Manager goes by the name of Mr. S. Riley. He can send out letters to us, lets see how he copes if he's inundated with phones calls from us.

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Post any pictures on here so we can all see them. You could start a thread for such photos from other members then invite Mr Riley onto the forum to explain why it happens. Lets see if he is as strong a character as Gayle Knight.

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they council bin router should have scrummaged through the trash to look for letters so they knew which address it came from

if they havnt found letters they have no proof

bollox to them you should ring the obseerver and tell them of teh councils false accusations they have a reorter there who loves syicking it to the council over the wheelie bin policy or it may be the telegraph

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I am surprised that the council haven’t got the brains to work out what has been going on here.
I bet that the neighbours who are dumping their rubbish may well think they are being help full towards the bin men by carting their rubbish to the end of the back, making it a lot easier for them to collect. Not realizing that the poor sods in the end houses are getting the blame.
But, I suppose they have to blame someone, so they must start at the first house and work their way along until they find the culprits upsetting an accusing everyone that’s in their path.
Good luck Less.

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This weeks deposit was a carpet that some-one had removed from their living room, not much chance of the address being found there unless the council do a full survey of the internal measurements of the properties.

My back passage should be left alone unless I give some-one permission to actually make a contribution!


:D

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:rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: enough said!!

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Is that what they call a bum joke.................:D

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LMAO oh it gets worse:D :D

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Think of all the paper that's going to be wasted writing letters back & forth (and also the warnings they post through the door) just trying to prove yourself innocent. I'm sure they will have have lost a fair bit of recycleable material everytime they deny receiving anything from you!

Also why should you have to go through the trouble of proving your neighbours guilty by photos etc, that could make you even more popular round the neighbourhood!!! It might not just be your back passage you have to worry about!

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i assume a few of your neigbours are doing this tipping at the top of the street

if that is the case exactly how much crap does the council think you buy to throw out each week

ask them if they think your house is the tardis and has infintae space for you to store large amounts of crap to throw away each week

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I'm sorry this is so blunt and not more helpful Less but to me this has the makings of a neighbourly dispute. No your neighbours shouldn't be dumping their rubbish at the side of your property but the bin men must pass this refuse at the side of your house to collect the bins so why can't the lazy gits just shift it, they are paid to remove rubbish so remove it!!

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Unfortunately Tinkerbelle the "lazy gits" have been instructed by HBC not to remove black bags, only to empty wheelie bins as each household is only supposed to produce one wheelie bin worth of rubbish per fortnight. Any excess black baggage placed by wheelie bins will result in the householder being fined for creating too much rubbish.

The fact that they have been taking a lot of bags up to now when according to HBC they shouldn't have has only complicated the issue.

The problem is that some families can't help creating more than a wheelie bin full per week and there doesn't seem to be a solution to that. For instance a family of four is going to produce more than one person living alone. This letter that went out today says we can be fined up to £1,000 for generating too much rubbish.

They even stipulate that the wheelie bin lid must close!

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And this is supposed to be more environmentally friendly? Somehow I think Hyndborg BC have lost the plot somewhere along the way.

Is it any wonder people fly tip?

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the wheelie bin issue is all down to one stubborn woman who works at hyndburn council who wont admit shes wrong about the wheelie bin policy

gregg pope agreed with me on how stupid 1 pick up every 2 weeks was but is power =less to do anything about it

i have sice lost the womans name but if you ring greg pope he will give you the number of the woman whos idea this all was

the beutiful thing is teh number gregg pope gave me was her home number i guess they dont realise that at the labour office or either dont care coz she deserves to be harrassed at home the same way we get harrassed about rubbish

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Councillor Anne Scaife is the council's cabinet member responsible for environment and cleansing. To judge from a couple of articles in the Observer over the past few weeks it may be well worth giving her some earache. Her contact details are available on the HBC website, if you have the patience to wait for it.

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This is the content of the e-mail I sent yesterday concerning this topic:-

Please forward this e-mail to:-
Mr S. Riley
Waste Services Manager.


Dear Sir I have just received a warning for something
of which I am not guilty.
The house I live in is a gable end property with the
back entrance running along the side of the house.
When I put out my rubbish it is ALWAYS in black bin
bags contained inside my wheelie bin, if I have any
other type of houshold waste I take it at personal
expense to Whinney Hill for correct disposal.
The back entrance is often overloaded by rubbish that
has been place there by irrisponsible neighbours and
fly tippers. Often this illegally placed rubbish is
deposited against the gable end of my property, this
however does not make me guilty of this crime so I
would be grateful if in future, rather than your
operatives just assuming that because I have to live
with the effects of this mess that I am guilty of
causing it I am not!
Therefore I would be grateful if you could cross me
off your list of suspects thus freeing your resources
just a little so that you can concentrate a real
effort into catching the guilty parties,
I look forward to hearing from you in the very near
future,

I'm happy to also show the reply that I received this morning, it was certainly prompt:-

I refer to your email and I apologies if the letter caused offence.

The letter you received is being delivered to all properties throughout
the Borough and all I am asking is that residents become more aware and
responsible for the refuse they produce, including the way it is
presented for collection. Although the letter was targeted at specific
residents who cause the majority of the problems, I decided to 'blanket
drop' the whole Borough to show others who have a responsible attitude,
that the Council is serious about tackling the problem of dumpings.

This 'final warning' is a direct response to the many residents who
continually complain to my department that they want to see some action.
Indeed, the majority of people talk about imposing no-nonsense fines
against any resident who dumps rubbish in the streets.

In the past, letters politely asking residents for their co-operation
did not work, so the tone of this letter was worded much more strongly.
This decision seems to be having the desired affect i.e. people are
actually reading the letter and this is the most important factor in any
information sent out by the Council.

I make no apologies for the tone of the letter, as it is the residents
of Hyndburn who dump the rubbish in the first place. With the current
facilities in place, households can now recycle all their glass, cans,
paper, and plastic bottles. Even cardboard can be removed from the grey
wheeled bin and placed at the side if space is a problem. This amount
of recycling equates to over 60% (by volume) of a normal households
waste and therefore leaves sufficient space in the wheeled bin for all the
remaining residual waste.

Any resident who has a responsible attitude and are fully recycling
will have nothing to worry about. Although, those households who do not
recycle and do not co-operate, will receive heavy fines which I hope
will encourage them to keep our streets clean and show the other residents
that the Council is trying to improve the cleanliness of the Borough.

Yours sincerely


Steve Riley
Waste Services Manager
Hyndburn Borough Council
Willows Lane
Accrington
Lancashire
BB5 0RT

Tel: 01254 356220
Fax: 01254 872250

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I am shocked at this sentence!!! He is blaming everyone! It appears to me to be the council changing policies that is causing more and more rubbish to be dumped. One day I think heads will roll due to current ridiculous council policies and decisions regarding waste management.

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WOW !!! I hope you rang the refuse department and described the offending litterbug. I bet he does not get a £1000 fine.

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I am curious as to who exactly is going to "police" the streets of Accy. Will it be the refuse collecters? ....and if they find excess black bags do they leave them as evidence or take them away?

Here are four photos, the first three taken early this morning (sorry about the quality, it was *issing down and I was getting soaked) and the last was 2 hours later after the collection.
On photo 3, the lump at the bottom right hand side was rolled up carpet.......

BTW, Excess black bags are a regular sight here along with wood and other stuff too large to get in a wheelie bin but it is ALWAYS taken, I wonder if many of my neighbours work for H.B.C.?

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I can understand where Steve Riley is comming from with is email reply. The whole of Hyndburn is suffering from litter, some areas are of course worse than others. I can not really see any major problems with HBC wheelie bin policy. Maybe someone can explain problems to me that I have missed. The use of wheelie bins instead of black bags is a very positive forward step. The days of rubbish bags ripped open by cats and dogs blowing about in the wind should have gone. I think that the people who are complaining may not have contacted HBC and asked for there help. HBC offered to assist householders with there recycling needs if they are having problems. If you have a large family and produce a lot of waste ( ie babies in nappies or several children ) you may be issued with an extra wheelie bin. the council is no longer giving out the very large bins as they found they were being damaged while emptied by the machine. If you are single or a couple and wanted a small wheelie bin then they would supply one for you.

I think the biggest problem I have is the amount of bags and containers we are provided with. I would prefer to see just 2 wheelie bins. One for non-recyclable and one for recyclable waste. the recyclables would have to be sorted out elsewhere. Have the noticed how many men are used on recycling day to empty all the different containers?

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I can not understand why people expect to have old carpets, wood and stuff too large to get in a wheelie taken away by the bin men.

One thing that HBC could do to help the problem is to improve the removal of large items, ie furnature and old appliances etc. I believe it can take a while to have large items collected.

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[QUOTE=Neil][I think the biggest problem I have is the amount of bags and containers we are provided with. I would prefer to see just 2 wheelie bins. One for non-recyclable and one for recyclable waste. the recyclables would have to be sorted out elsewhere.UOTE]

What is it like Neil to have a nice large back garden?:D Most of the terraced houses around my area were built over 100 years ago and the rear yards are about the size of a small living room. Put up a garden shed and you are left with a narrow path to the back gate that is obstructed by the ONE wheelie bin let alone TWO!:confused:

They cannot be left outside as in this "Refuse Collection Warning Letter" it states that "action will be taken against anyone who leaves their wheeled bin outside their property other than the night before collection day and the collection day itself"

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I dont have a big back yard mate. Where did the people with small back yards used to store all the black bags full of rubbish that wont fit into a wheelie bin? I agree with you, our old houses are not designed to be recyling friendly. I have a very small kitchen with nowhere for a few bins for the different types of waste we have to keep seperate. Maybe smaller bins and weekly collections would be the answer. I know the idea of fortnightly collections is to reduce costs but maybe it needs reviewing.

I forgot a major problem with the refuse collection service. The size of the bin waggons. They are massive. Way to big for our narrow streets. I was talking to someone at Hyndburn Works recently. He told me that the waggons are causing the back streets to collopse in some areas. A lady at the council also informed me that they have had several claims from residents whose cars have been damaged by the bin wagons.

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As most of you are probably aware, Willow and I are getting married on the 14th May and are away on honeymoon for a fortnight in sunny Blackpool (Don't tell Willow, she thinks she is going to Tunisia;) ) and I have just done a quick calculation....

Our refuse will be collected on the 4th May and we will have 10 days to fill the wheelie bin with all sorts of delicious items like uneaten baked beans and curry...... It is then left to simmer in the spring sunshine for a further two weeks until our return and will finally be disposed of on 1st June. (Thats providing it hasn't grown legs by then and escaped down the road:eek: ...)

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Busman you could just dump it outside less's place there is still some room left

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That is unpleasant big at least no-ones cat will rip open the bags while you are away. I asked one of the nieghbours to put our bin out when we were away. Is there nobody who can put the bin out for you while you are away? Maybe you could try the council at there word and see what assistance they can give you.

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To late I just emptied out my trailer there after doing some work on the house. :D:D:D

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wheelie bins would be ok if they collected weekly , there once every 2 weeks policy simply isnt enough period

another problem is some of us have small houses and after having a freezer , fridge and a washing machine there is very little room to keep all the boxes and bags that the council want us to put various items of rubbish into

yes i could leave them in the back yard but then they become public toilets for other peoples pets and then i have to pick up urinated on or crapped on bags and boxes

also i have a small child and having a box full of razor sharp tins in the house is somthing i dont realy want and the lid provided with the box can be taken of letteraly by a 1 year old

i have 2 children and one of those is in nappies so you can imagine how quicky i can fill 1 whelie bin

i like everyone else pay a hell of a lot of council tax which is supposed to pay for services provided by the council so they should do what they are paid to do and move our crap

if they dont like clearing rubbish then bin men are obviously in the wrong job and better suited elsewhere

if you went to a resturant and the table was covered in the previous customers spilt food you would be annoyed if the waitress said sorry we only clean up food thats on plates it is against our policy to remove food lefy at the side of plates

anyway the picture below is the front of my street after the binmen have visited and everyone on my street uses the wheelie bins so how the hell they manage this to happen on the FRONT of the street is beyond belief

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Have you spoken to HBC about your issues? I found them to be very helpfull when I did.

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What did you need from them? Why did they send you more bags if you did not need them?

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yep willow we have 1 gray bin 2 blue boxs 2 white bags and 2 blue bags i dont know how i did not ask for them.
1 blue box is roming round the yard on its own in this wind

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I agree with the people on here who talk about the blue boxes. They are a bad idea. Too small for most people, blow about in the wind, have sharp tins and glass bottles for kids to hurt themselves on, have next to useless lids.

They do however make excellent toy boxes which is what mine is used for. It is a little full now so I have to decide wether to get rid of some toys or ask HBC for another one.

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Well if its full Neil just be a good boy and put it out and all the toys will be recycled .
then you can start again the kids will be pleased at the new toys and you will have done your bit for the enviroment hehe

although you should put the plastic toys in the white sack first

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No neil I didn't ring them but yes looking at it in hind sight I probably should have, but I always think what's the point they will only fob me off or tell me no-one is available to take my call or leave me on hold for ages! I was more shocked at how he just shoved them off if they weren't supposed to have been there wouldn't it have been more sensible to pick them up and place them at the side. Saying that though the most sensible thing would have been to place his hand on top of the bags to stop them tumbling off while he took the bin to the wagon. I can honestly say if it had of been mine I wouldn't have been held responsible for my actions :mad:

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I thought fairies were supposed to be cute and gentle not threatening towards refuse collectors :rolleyes:.

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Oh yeah I forgot! Well in that case I would have to sprinkle magic fairy dust ove the refuse collectors and then they might be able to do their jobs properly :D That better?

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Yep thats much better. How about waving you wand over Scaithcliffe House while your at it

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Bl**dy hell Neil I'm a fairy not a miracle worker!!!

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I am in Oswaldtwistle, we have alternate week collection for recylable one week and non-recyclable the week after. Is this common throughout Hyndburn now or are some areas still weekly?

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It's alternate weeks here in Willows Lane and we've got a dilemma coming up in May when we'll be away for 2 weeks. My bin was emptied this morning and the contents must have been a bit heavy. The bin men reacted to that by throwing the empty bin back into the yard where it landed on its side. (Photo to follow)

I had excess rubbish which I didn't put into the bin or out with the bin since receiving the letter telling me they won't take extra bin bags. I still have that rubbish and I'm going to have to take it to the tip myself. It's barmy. It still ends up at the tip anyway so why can't they take it? If I wasn't supposed to take it to the tip what else am I supposed to do with it? It isn't recyclable. It's rubbish. I recycle everything I can possibly recycle, including things they don't collect so what am I supposed to do with the rest when it won't fit in my bin?

To add insult to injury have you seen the pics Busman posted of the black bin bags down his back alley which the bin men REMOVED this morning when emptying wheelie bins? What have they got that the rest of us haven't? Humph!

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I agree with chav1 - the wheelie bins would be the right size for most families if they still collected weekly.

There are just two of us and to be honest our wheelie bin is the perfect size for two weeks - but I can understand how bigger families struggle. I believe you can get extra bins but I know a few people who have tried and been turned down even though they are recycling what they can and only putting non-recycleable rubbish in the wheelie bins.

The e-mail from HBC stated that recycleable waste is 60% of all household waste - well I wouldn't agree in my case (& probably that of others) - as I say, I put out 1 wheelie bin full every two weeks (approx 3 black bags) but the recycleable waste I put out every two weeks would probably only fill 2 bags at the most - I'm not that great at maths but I know that ain't 60%!

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There is an art to filling a wheelie bin. You have to make sure there are no spaces in it. I find an easy way is to wack it down with a spade. Its amazing what you can fit in one. A couple of weeks ago mine had about 4 buckets full of gravel and the middle secton of my wifes car exhaust I replaced in it. I find keeping the cardboard seperate is very important. I did not realise how much card we throw away.

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if %60 of waste is rubbish then i will take %60 of my childs nappies after a few days with dihorea and let them smash them flat with a spade so they will fit in a wheelie bin lol

to be honest i resent been told to play with my rubbish and have recycling forced upon me it should be a choice

personaly i would be quite happy to throw bottles and tins into a box for them to take away but having to wash out sharp bean tins etc so that they dont rot and stink my home out is too far

instead of forcing the responsibilty on us why dosnt the council/govenment make companies use more bio-degradable materials so that stuff would simply rot

why dont they put as much pressure on companies who polute to stop poluting

the simple answer is that the general public is easier to threaten with a £1000 fine than to take on the real culprits like shell , mcdonalds , chemical plants and many other buisnesses

in most cases the fine for poluting is 10 times less than the cost of disposing of chemical waste safely so it is easier and cheaper for large companies to pay fines

i am not a tree hugger or friend of the earth type person but i am totaly pi**ed of at the blame of the uks pollution and waste been dropped on the public when it is the govenments , large buisnesses fault etc

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We are running out of space to bury all our waste. It makes sense to recycle. There's nothing wrong with having a sensible responsible attitude to the future. The child of whose nappies you now speak will inherit the mess we leave behind. It's a fact that we create far more rubbish than we are able to cope with and that if in the past more had been recycled we wouldn't have as much of a problem as we do today.

Having said that, I also agree that councils need to adopt a more tolerant approach and if rubbish is non-recyclable then it is their responsibility to remove it whether it fits inside a wheelie bin with a closed lid or not.

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i dont mind recycling but i dont see why my house should become a recycling plant

if the council are willing to take the trash every week then i will recycle until then all my crap goes in the bin regardless of what it is and the trash that dosnt fit gets disposed of via other methods

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Chav I have to agree with you. Some time before christmas (early december), I watched the bin men that were supposed to be collecting recycling waste. I had put my blue box out the front (as usual) along with my blue bag (plastic bottles),they went next door but wlked right passed mine, I then thought that maybe they will come back up the other side of the street to collect mine. OOOOOOOOOH no they vanished and never emptied mine. So on the blower to the council again. ''SORRY about that madam, we will get some one over as soon as possible to collect the things''. I was happy with that and left my things out the front to be taken away. Well I waited and waited and.........nothing after 2 days apart from me, running up and down the street every half an hour trying to catch the wind swept littler that had been lown around the estate.
So it goes without saying, I too just put all rubbish in the bin bags now and dispose of in the weelie bin. If they can't be ars'd doing their bit, I can't be ars'd doing mine.

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They are supposed to get back to missed collections within 2 days. It looks like they forgot you forgotten waste again.

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have had to go to whinney hill tip last sat,to make room for this weeks rubbish,once a fortnight collections are an insult to every tax payer,and we can all moan @ complain they are just not bothered! chav is correct,

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If you are only putting non-recyclable waste into your wheelie bin and it is not big enough, why don't you contact the council and invite them to explain what you should do with your waste. I am still waiting to hear from someone who had them round to their house to help with recyling.

They made the offer, has anyone taken them up on it?

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why? when they distributed the blue boxes-18-24months ago we was away for 1 month,didn,t know people had them for a few weeks,my missus then rang the council to tell them we didn,t have one,apparently not left on front step or pinched,who knows,after 1/2hr or so her ear getting hot with the phone,we were told o.k. we will send you one.still waiting,why should people waste time@money?everything goes in the wheely bin till they do their job.what happens to you @me if we don't do ours?

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I think they have gone to fortnightly collections to try and force people to recycle. Basically the wheelie bin is not big enough for the average household for 2 weeks without recycling.

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We get fined cashman.......but what do the council get?? To go home at the end of the day and forget about us 'LITTLE PEOPLE'

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Very little according to Tinkerbelle :rolleyes:

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SHE will mean my ass in comparison to hers Neil!!;)

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Got a bloke banging on the door yesterday from Hyndburn Works giving me abuse about bin bags at the side of my bin, saying next week 2000 pound fine. He started opening the bags in front of me to see i am recycling, spilling contents on my drive and not picking it up.

Who do these Hitlers think they are?

Can we not vote to sack the lazy gits for a private company?

Can i get back to the old bins to hold hot ashes because to get rid of your rubbish we need to go back to coal fires?

Can we not sack all the council with a vote of no confidence?

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Hi Willow.
He told me to take it to the tip myself, or phone the depot and they will pick up, but leave your back gate open for 14 days.

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The air was a bit blue.

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maybe all the people who are disapointed with their service should hire a waggon and tipp all our exess crap outside the townhall in protest and see how long it takes them to clear it up

it would be interesting to see if THEY bother to seperate recycable and non recycable crap in the clean up process

i dont know why people are sayin the council offer to do this and they offer to do this they must have blind faith in our council as they very rarely keep to any prommise they ever make

maybe if they kicked all the scroungers of housing benefit they could afford to provide a propper service to those that PAY council tax

when i say scroungers i obviously only mean those that intentionaly stay off work because they are too bone idle to look for a job and see benifits as as career

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Well said chav...................:D

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I phoned the council to remove an old washing machine & was told the same - so I left it outside the locked back gate rather than in my yard unlocked. It was removed just after a week.

But then on the 14th day the council phoned me at work to say that they had been to collect it & the gate was locked. I explained that I had left it outside the gate and it had already been removed - she concluded that another department must've already been for it.

So the rubbish will be removed quicker if you fly tip than to go through the correct procedures - but there was absolutely no way I was leaving my gate open for 2 weeks.

(PS - not condoning fly tipping - I left it outside my own gate - if anyone was gonna get fined, it would've been me.)

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i think the only way we can get the council to admit they are wrong and reinstate a weekly pickup is for everyone to simply throw excess waste directly onto the back alley making sure not to throw anything on the back alley with their name and address on it like letters etc

only when the council realise they are spending more time cleaning up the back alleys than what they would be doing on a weekly pickup rota will they possibly see the errors of their ways

i would also like to bring up the subject of hygine

for years we have thrown out our rubbish into the back yard or garden but now we are expected to keep it indoors for 2 weeks

washing out sharp tins is dangerous enough and you never quite get the tin %100 clean so a pile of tins in your kitchen with rotting food in them will attract mice , rats and other things

i personaly live near a river with plenty of rats in the area and since the introduction of the wheelie bin policy the rats are no longer limiting themselves to the river but are been attracted to our homes by the mess the council leave behind

terraced houses are prone to mice it only takes one house to get them and we all get them as they go along the lofts and under the floors all along the block etc

since the wheelie bin policy came into effect i have had the councils rat catcher out 5 times at a cost of £10 each time to put poison down

they now refuse to put poison down because i have a child so if the mice come back i have to live with them

i am not alone in this problem my neighbours cats are near exhaustion catching mice and my neighbour often wakes up to spot a mouses head on the floor or some other body part the cat left behind

apart from sterilizing food containers and beer bottles etc i dont see how you can eliminate the odour which can attract vermin

i put the idea that people living near rivers should get weekly pickups to greg pope and he agreed it was common sense but has no power over the council so i rang the council and they said they would put it down as an idea but the second time i rang up there was no mention of it on the computer when i asked if it had been looked into

anyway in my eyes everyone should get weekly pick up or get council tax halved as we are only getting half the service we used to do

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Right i got the same letter less got so I took before and after the binmen came today
i must say they did a great job and cleared all the extra bin bags too have a look at the before and after pics

not 1 bin bag left after they had been round this area
so why the letter ??

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don't worry less everyone's got one of those letters on our avenue

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It would've been nice if they added a covering note to the letter posted through the doors of people they weren't actually targeting. The bloke from the council did state that they decided to complete a blanket mailshot so people knew they were getting tough. But now they have just upset many innocent people and it could have been easily avoided.

Secondly, they have reduced the impact of the letters because who knows if they have one which is serious or not? Well done HBC - you've managed to make a bad situation even worse!!!

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hmm the council seem to have now told the binmen they can take black binliners away and make everyone happy

is there an election coming up soon or somthing because this is the first time i have heard of them removing black binliners as they usualy leave them on the alley and send a man round who then rummages for evidece where it came from and then threatens the poor ****** with a £1000 fine

i wonder if the binmen will still remove binliners after the election