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Fairground specialists SILCOCKS, now based in Altham, have, at the request of Hyndburn Council, travelled to Italy last week to pick up a "rare" fairground ride, called The Speed Flip, for the Mayor making ceremonies to be held in May.
This ride has 20 "gondolas" rotating through the sky at "breathtaking speeds".

According to the local press, who are quoting Mr P Britcliffe, saying that THIS IS THE IDEAL TIME TO USE THE SPACE ON BROADWAY FOR A FAIR BEFORE WORK STARTS ON REFURBISHING THE STREET.


Hallelujah!! about time too!!!!

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It looks good to me.

I vote Willow as AccyWeb's fairground ride tester and reporter.
Anyone second me.

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hope they got the maths correct because it looks to big for broadway

you may find your self getting your head knocked off when walking out of woolworths lol

also how can the council afford this for the mayor when they cant afford to take down christmas lights

are we going to be stuck with a ride because the council cant afford to move it lol
is it going to be free as we have in theory paid for it with our council tax

sorry for the moan but i realy dont see the point in sticking this on broadway , all it will do is get in the way and annoy people with the noise

and the poor buggers that have to work in the shops will have to listen to it all day as well

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Here's an interesting site with photos of something similar in action
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It looks bigger faster etc than the docile one above. Having read Atarah's post again I see it has 20 gondolas. We could only visualise the location on eight on that pic. Maybe that's a baby one and we're getting the Mama.

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One wonders if the council have done their sums on this. Is it intended to be a revenue-enhancment exercise, and if so by how much? Or is the operator of of this ride bearing the risk that ride sales will exceed the costs of transport from Italy, UK insurance, daily running costs, etc. If its the latter, then "fair" enough; but if it is the former, I really would want to know what HBC is doing involved in this sort of venture on the flimsiest possible pretence.

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maybe we should stick this on top of the coppice lol

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Now I've looked at the original pic again and see where four "gondolas" fit onto five arms. This flippin thing (excuse the pun) is certainly going to get in the way of people on Broadway. How long is it supposed to be stuck there?

I dread to think of the costs involved Tea but get the impression that Silcock's are bringing it over at their own expense not just for Hyndburn.

Now there's an idea Chav. That'll get people up there. :D

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why not plonk the whole fair on broadway?front of market,etc and make it noisy,and dangerous for everybody,sod the public they don't matter anyway!

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it would look like a U.F.O was landing up there if they did stick it on teh coppice lol

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still all the aleins in H.B.C. could meet their relatives if it was.

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:rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: :rofl38: lol

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I notice that when the Idiot-in-chief was prattling about this flagrant waste of ratepayers money in the Observer he also attempted to justify the expense by implying that the people of Hyndburn regularly took the opportunity to celebrate in public on the occaision of the annual Mayor Making ceremony.

Well, excuse me, I have only lived here for forty-nine years. But I do not recall anyone dancing in the street at the swearing in of any Mayor - EVER!

It would appear that wielding all that power has gone to Britcliffe's head and he has finally flipped! How much longer do we have to put up with this drivelling idiot?

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i never even knew there was a ceromony for swearing in the mayor until now lol

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hope you mean SWEARING IN & not SWEARING AT , cos that ride needs blowing up, i hate fairgrounds & rides but that is plain idicorcy gone stupidly mad/

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I too didn't know they had a ceremony for swearing in the mayor, I dont think anyone will be impressed by the ride either

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I could have sworn I captured a picture of the real ride last month see here

(Remember your immortal words A-b, "this is a wind up - right?" I never tell a lie,....just bend the truth a little at times:D

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A-B I wonder if the £35,000 that Cllr Jones mentioned in another thread was something to do with hiring this ride and any other money to be wasted on the ceremony for swearing in the mayor?

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When will our council ever learn? Look whats happening to that bloke in America after he decided to celebrate by offering the kiddies rides? What was that place again? Oh thats right..... Neverland Valley Ranch!!

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i think as punishemnet for another stupid idea all the people responsible for it shuld give free piggy back rides along broadway

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But A-B.....you forget. We have a well-paid bureacrat, an employee of the Council, whose official title is "Festival Organiser". If he was'nt busy organising this bash and others like it, then he's have nowt to do; so the council could get rid of him, and save 30 grand a year for the rate payer. But that would'nt do now, would it?

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I have been to a mayor -making ceremony;once the official bit is done it's all 3 course meal and as much vino as you could knock back[I think it was quite a good night??] Anyhow;the whole ceremony is out-dated and very archaic;the catering certainly wasn't done on the cheap and even the floral displays were posh! I know that the one I attended was strictly invite only and the Mayor to be was limited to the number of family he could invite;think it was 6! He did the whole thing under some duress as he didn't approve of the fuss and expenditure.I think this latest Britcliffe's Baby is a total farce,not only is it costing US a fortune,I also doubt that they will find a flat enough piece of Broadway to put it on! Also,if it affects my store's trade or so much as touches any of my staff I will sue the arse off the Idiot in Chief!

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One wonders why there is so much fuss being made over the Mayor Making this year, when Britcliffe has in the past seemed quite satisfied with just sticking his snout in the trough? I mean, christmas illuminations, fairground rides...If one were of a cynical frame of mind one might suppose that there was an ulterior motive in all this frivolity - do you suppose that the fact that the Mayor Elect is female may have some bearing in this matter and that the Idiot-in-chief, now that he is single again, fancies his chances?

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one wonders indeed,sounds about right.

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I would not be at all surprised,there is always a "hidden agenda" to these things and as we all know,no-one does "owt for nowt". Will have a spy in his basket next time I see him in Iceland;see if it's still full of meals for one!!!!

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Maybe someone could explain to me what a Mayor does and why we want to spend our money on one.

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As someone who has to work in the shops on Braodway I am not looking forward to this. Its bad enough we have to put up with various buskers (pan pipes anybody?) and bagpipes etc, but this takes the biscuit. I really don't see how its going to actually fit on Broadway...

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No. It will show on the budget as 'Management Consultancy Fee's'

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how the hell is a fairground ride classed as management consultancy

if that is the case wouldnt there be a case of mismanagement of funds or fiddleing the books or whatever they call it

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The only worry I have [apart from people being decapitated,the cost,and customers not being able to get into my store!] is that fairs of any kind attract what I will call "undesirables" you know,the ones who wear lots of gold and offer to tarmac your drive way.....

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Just done some rough calculations
20 (carriages) x 2 (people per carriage) x £2 (per person) = £80 per turn
£80 x 12 (turns per hour) x 5 hours per day x 3 days = £14,400

Even if they have it running for 8 hours a day it's still not going to make £35,000. So surely that's not the cost of bringing it over - no one would be that mad!

It would be interesting to know who's footing the bill and who's getting the profit.

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It's the most bonkers idea since the panopticon;hope it helps influence people's votes at the forthcoming election though,a vote for Britcliffe's bunch means an unprofitable fairground ride occupying the main street in our once proud town!

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Ultimately, even though I'm unsure about the costs I have to support this as an idea. If it attracts people into the town centre there is always chance that takings in the shops will increase whilst it's there. We're so quick to knock things because they're different but we should embrace anything that is an opportunity for something new, colourful and fun in the town - even if it is only for a few days.

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I was being sarcastic, I doubt even Britcliffe would be stupid enough to spend £35,000 on a ride but using your figures and Lindsey's observations I'm sure Britcliffe and the others who go to the "Mayors party" could easily get through the remaining £20,000 in free meals and drinks.

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So it's nothing to do the Mayor making weekend?

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yes takings will probaly increase

taking of even more stuff from the shops without paying for it

all i can say is ime not looking forward to shopping while it is on broadway having to push my way through even more gangs of teenage kids and chavs sipping on their bottles of WKD

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i am not knocking this because it is different i quite like fairground rides

i am knocking it because it is yet another pathetic waste of OUR money which could be spent on better things like an extra policeman maybe or a few extra books for schools

anyway most of the people who pay their council tax will be at work so unable to use it so the majority of users will be the unemployed so in some strange way we are not only paying for it to be there but also paying the buggers ride fair to get on it via income support

boy am i in a grumpy mood tonight :D

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when i have a go about the unemployed i do mean the ones who have no intention of ever working and see benefits as a career

those who have read my previous posts probably know what i mean by this but reading it for the first time could appear that i mean everyone who is unemployed which is not the case so sorry if anyone was offended by it but i assure you i mean only those who simply refuse to earn a living and have no intention to do nothing with their lives but scrounge of the rest of society

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The £35,000 spent by HBC with no return has nothing to do with the ride. The ride is just an election gimmick for the stupid. PB makes out this is part of the great Accrington revival. Here's me thinking its a fairground ride. Will it make bull***t go faster?

Here's this weeks news. £600,000 NM project still down the toilet. Todays meeting the 469th in 18 months and we are still in position A. Even Kasparov had more moves this side of the Great Plague.

I dispise quangos. Elevate must have the biggest bank of answering machines, probably so some invisible people can claim their wheelbarrow wages [with expenses of course] at the taxpayers expense only appearing on odd occasions to give a powerpoint presentation on how well things are going through their kaleidoscope.

Demolition in Phoenix. No not a clipping from the Daily Sport [or Daily Mail or Daily Express!], it actually happened. The demolition in Pearl Street was because a great HBC officer put his foot down and kicked arse.

Oh and there's a little proposal, accepted in principle by PB for a 20 classroom school, community centre, sports comples and mosque on Blackburn Rd. Well he has to accept it with Central Ward having two Asian Conservative Councillors. Where would we be with two Labour Councillors in Central, oh thats right the Tories would be out and we could start running Hyndburn properly. An event that should merit an entry in the Doomsday Book.

Anyway back to vote rigging... in Hyndburn.... Shirley not [THINK about it you Labour critics!!!!!!] Its basic maths...

There's a lot of funny business going on but its proving it.

Had to laugh. Even PB is voting for Colgate Tony, says he's [PB] doing his bit to keep the Conservatives in control in Hyndburn. Tony being the biggest vote winner for PB and Tory cronies having a Labour Govt. [Obviously doesnt think much of the electorate's intelligence or his own policies?]. Mind you there are some Conservatives [Thats with a big C or BNP] on AccyWeb who would struggle to work out what comes first, the cart or the horse.

And the biggest laugh of all... He explanied "After listening to the Labour Party Cllr Britcliffe Wardens are to be expanded throughout the borough [Labour has funding for 24], espcially good news for Rishton" he emphasised [ouch!!! did it hurt that much Peter!!].

Great News!!!

er... not so great..... It transpires...The 6 wardens funded till next year [6 have been given redundancy] will still work the 4 poor wards. 2 more have been saved making 8. well no, the poor wards still have 6, they have been misled. The other 2 are for the rest of the Borough, 11 wards. So good news, you might meet your new warden in your area sometime before 2012.

But fear not. They are moving Area Council funding to fund Wardens. [Background Info: Labour is to withdraw all funding from Area Councils to fund wardens]. Yes your right. One of the 2 officers who carries a mike during the meeting is to put on a flourescent jacket and patrol around the buidling for an hour.

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Lets hope they put Britcliffe & his cohorts in for the first ride, set it on full speed & trust they havent tethered it down so it will take off & hopefully we will never see the lot of them again. Best thing that could happen to regenerate Accy. With them out of theway maybe we could restore some sense & pride back into the town.

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if the are building a mosque on blackburn road would i be correct in assuming they will be bulding it where the church once stood..?

if so what a clever move to destroy such an old piece of heritage for the sake of a mosque

why on earth should we pay for a mosque anyway people should be responsible for getting their own places of worship regarless of faith

didnt they already try opening a small all muslim school at the end of blackburn road that used to be the stag pub i think it was called and that as far as i can tell by looking at the outside looks unused

as for traffic wardens i can see the need for them in accrington town center ( as long as they do their job propperly) but rishton and the likes of great harwood etc cant justify the need for them except to create revenue

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if they ARE building a mosque on blackburn rd, then i think its better to turn moslem,cos their pulling all the catholic churches down anyway.p.s. the pub was the (antley) you'll have staggering man doing a wardance chav,youve just demolished his establishment.

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not wanting to sound racist here at all but nearly all christian chrurches i see have some form of fund raiser going on to repair the church like a new roof is needed or somthing else

the council dont seem too eager to help a church repair its roof yet will spend thousands upon thousands errecting mosques

places of worship should be paid for by the people who want to worship and not at our expence via the council tax etc

the whole thing stinks but as usual if you speak against it you are a racist

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well the huge mosque in blackburn was council funded so it wouldnt surprise me that one in accrinton was to be as well

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I'm lost for words.....................which is rare for me.

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Is it not usually SWEARING at the major???????????

Anyway I must be careful from now on when walking out of Greggs.........never know whats gonna hit you...........and I dont mean the pidgeons lmao.

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the only thing that hit me after greggs was a bout of dihorea, i now eat at mannings

sorry if anyone here works there but at times the pasties and sausage rolls could do with an extra few mins in the oven ;)

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I'm absolutely fuming that one penny of my hard earned cash would go towards the building of a mosque in Accrington, surely this can't be right. If it is then this is legalized vote rigging and something needs to be done, just what I'm not sure but holding back my council tax is my first thought. I am sick to death of the asian community being allowed to have their own set of rules and decisions like this justify people voting BNP.

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Someone mentioned earlier that the site of the former Sacred Heart Church was to be used for this proposed mosque. This can't be right, surely. I was under the impression that the Diocese of Salford owned the land and had decided that the land was going to be turned into a garden of some sort.

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There is a mosque.already in that area anyway up the side street cant think of the street at the min but surley they dont need 2 in the space of a few yards of each other ?

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Oh I don't know, when the stated aim of Islam is world conversion then I suppose that you can never have too many.

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its the old dale st club mick, thats the one you mean don't you?

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nice one tealeaf

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The mosque wont be funded by the council. it is to be privately funded. However I dont think it will happen because plans have been submitted for the 'whole' area and would need fresh planning permission to change. I am not bothered about the mosque. What is worrying is though is I think we should seperate religion from education/politics ASAP.

Britcliffe's warden scheme is more concerning. A lot of people will get taken into believing they are about to get wardens, especially for instance their is the odd sighting up Rishton town centre for eg. 2 wardens for 11 wardens, ie 74 hours a week, excluding holidays is nothing. Particularly if your 3 hour slot [x2 wardens 6 man hours] is monday afternoon.

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It says a lot for integration of the races when as my son came home from school recently to inform me that a young asian male there was wearing an anti racism band- the one supposed to be worn as one white & one black band together- but was proudly declaring to all how he had removed the white band. If it was the other way round what sort of furore would there be. I have no qualms with other races integrating as long as they do but it is about time the racism act was clarified to ensure it works both ways. If we went to their claimed homeland & started asking for the things we have at home we would be shown the door. Maybe the Romans got it right with when in Rome....

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I know the logic of this thread but thats not how it works. Lets take spanish land laws or the violence, vandelism, anti-social behavior across the med +++ or the closed colonies and little englands around the globe that sneer outside their walls at the nations they inhabit ----green green grass of home & there will always be an england----

When I was in Kenya it was disgraceful how [it has to be said Toffs] all the english people where stinking rich but still exploited every thing out of Kenya and its people. The language used, the ignorance to the law or lack of any civil decency to people who worked in the most horrendous conditions you may conjure up.

We are [or is that used to be] a fair play decent nation and we dont need ambassadors like these who besmirch our country. The immigration system may need adjusting, as may the benefit system and the handout culture, but treating people like rubbish is unacceptable and I nearly wrote definately not British. However its all to common in a celebrity, money, get what you can Tory society to see Brits behave badly, expecially to others perceived as not British.

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Graham you are now in danger of acting like Tony Blair and showing more interest in other parts of the world than looking at the problems we have here first.
I for one am only interested in what this country does with our immigrants and visitors, I've no interest in Little England’s in Spain or anywhere else that's for their governments to deal with.
The fact that we are talking of the muslim religion maybe getting some public money to finance a place of worship is what I see as the problem.
You attempted to answer the question but like a true politician you quickly changed the subject to another topic, nice try.

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Apologies. Was speaking to the broader issue.

1. No public money.
2. Chances of being built - Very Little but Britcliffe and his cabinet make the final decision.
3. Biggest problems in Hyndburn are [Quick List]
A) Housing [Lifespan/Condition/Ownership etc..]
B) Greed/Yob Culture/Dont Care Culture/Me myself and I
C) Low value added employment/low esteem/poor health [big problem]
D) Retail/Commercial heart/non built up environment
E) Community Cohesion/Community inaction/hand out culture
F) A culture of clinging to the past [eg part of educated youth migration problem] *** obvioulsy excluding historic buildings and heritage ***

I could have had a list of specifics as long as your arm but hopefully all that list will fall under one of these themes. I didnt include the Council [and workshy politicians] because I expect them to be part of the solution!!! Ignorance plays a big part in the list.

4. If I had the power what 5 things would I do
A) Wardens with maximum powers backed up by community specials. Look at other TOUGH new powers to clean up the borough. Business and Residents.
B) Target Landlords and have a housing strategy for all the people WITH HOUSES THAT WILL LAST! Bad landlords = No.1 target
C) Rip up the Councils Constitution and burn it so never again are we ruled by egotists and political elites/dictators. Including an agenda of open/public democracy.
D) Planning & TC: Try and get private finance into the TC, rewrite planning laws to protect the TC and also the scourge of takeaways, office licences etc.. that blight outlying neighbourhoods
E) Stop flogging everything off, put some pride back into Hyndburn through what we do, own and share.
F) Stop borrowing money [esp for housing grants] unless we can make that money work for future generations, instead of leaving debts. Have an investigation in to how we went from £11m in debt to £27m under Cllr Britcliffe.

I could probably list a lot more... but these would be a start. Didn't include things the Council could not do like changing laws of the land.

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well one reason could be that selling off all the council houses

because they have sold off nearly all the council propertys they now have to pay much higher rents to private landlords

i know of one person getting over £90 a week for a private house yet this would have been a lot less if there had been a council property available


2: more people claiming housing benefit

3: coucil tax so high people cant afford it ( not sure if council tax debts count towards the councils debts)

4: making buisness rates so high in the town centre the killed off nearly all local buisnesses so they no longer pay rates so no more income there

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graham-lets take spanish land laws!how much do you know about them?also anti social behaviour across the med,having lived in spain i have never witnessed antisocial behaviour from british residents,have from tourists british,german,etc i could not comment on kenya,never having lived there,i don't think i'm entitled,don't know about you sounding like tony blair,idi amin perhaps.

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when my friends dad worked in saudi arabia one of his collegues was whipped in the street because he was drunk

although a british citizen he was flogged because he was in their country and had to obide by their rules

some people who come to this country dont see why they should respect our rules and do what they want and scream racist when somone complains or tries to put a stop to it

besides that when brits go abroad they may well like to keep their british identity but i highly doubt any british people start planning chemical attacks because they disagree with how things are in the country they moved to

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An excellent response Graham and that's why you got my vote last time and will the next time. You don't hide away like our other councillor or councillors in the Peel ward, I can't remember the last time Britcliffe was quoted in the Observer criticising Bernard Dawson for speaking out.

As I live very near to you the list of problems would certainly apply to our street and the way it's being destroyed by scumbag landlords buying up the properties, may I add not cheaply as I thought so they must be making a lot out of someone.

The local off licences and Netto play a big part in the nightly yob culture, I've seen kids exiting both with carrier bags full of alcohol and nothing ever seems to be done even when it's reported.

On the subject of wardens why are they never around or visible, even when we had 24 of them, when they are needed the most, at night when the yob culture takes over?

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I was not seeking with my post to return to a rule Brittania era. I appreciate that all of us regardless of skin, colour, creed etc have a right to life. However the natives of a country should have the right to uphold their laws & regulations, which is what happens in my case example of going to Pakistan or India etc. Rightly so as the majority rule. However the natives of this country have been taken for a ride over the past fourty years or so under the "British decency" & restore & right the wrongs the colonists did by lying down & letting our original laws & regs be steamrollered over in the name of "race relations. Common sense says that all things have to be equal but this law had been usurped & only works one way & that is against the natives. This is why I said that integration has to be a two way street, but this has been ignored. Could we go to Pakistan & build our churches, colonial halls etc now-no, but the reverse is not so here. My other half & I went shopping in Blackburn on Saturday & she is far from racist but said she felt in a minority because all she could see was Asian people everywhere. Perhaps that is why it is called BLACKBURN! & Accrington is not far behind.

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although you are speaking the truth what you say would have you labled a racist even though that is not the case

ime affraid nothing will change for the better in our life time infact all i can see happening is things getting worse to the extent that our women will have to cover their legs as not to offend those whos beliefs say women should not show flesh

cant go uspeting other races can we now

i wonder how far we would get in pakistan etc playing the race card

if you dont like our ways then ****** off to a place where you do like their ways
as i have stated already i have a friend whos father worked in saudi arabia and when his wife went to visit she had to cover up her legs and wear a viel when in public and did so because it was their way

not to mention the fact that if she didnt she would probably be spat at and othe things

on a lighter note

apparently she was worth 2 cammels when my friends dad was asked to do a swap and its an offer he later regreted refusing because they divorced shortly after

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I wish the CRE or what ever it is called these days (race relations board bods) could see that what they are doing is actually CREATING racists.

The majority of people would quite happily co-exist on a live and let live basis as long as what others were doing didn't affect their way of life. Unfortunately this isn't the case. As chav says, if we go to a muslim country where the women are expected to cover certain parts of their body then our women would be expected to comply. We wouldn't get away with complaining that it wasn't our way of doing things and that they were infringeing our civil liberties or being racist. Yet we have people who come here and not only want to live by their own standards (which is fine) but complain the the indiginous population doesn't live by those standards. If we complain about it then we are branded racist. It only takes a few times of being accused of something we are not before the accused worm turns and actually fits the profile of the accusation with a vengeance. Previously placid tolerant friendly people are becoming anti-muslim purely by having been labelled as such.

Presumably the CRE will then turn round and say that they knew that underneath these people were inherntly racist all along but just pretending not to be!

Now then, what has all this got to do with fairground rides?

Oh, just one quick question as the subject was touched on - housing benefit and the cost of £90 a week in private as opposed to cheaper in council housing............... isn't the benefit paid by central government rather than the local council? It still comes out of our pockets in the end I know, but it wouldn't affect HBC's coffers.

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i realy dont know if rent is paid directly from the government or from the councils budget

when you apply for the dole that comes directly from the government and you apply at the job center but you apply for housing benefit seperatly at the town hall

if they came from the same place one would assume there would only be 1 set of forms to fill out but as the govenment likes to do things the hard way it wouldnt surprise me if it was 2 forms at 2 different locations to get money from the same place lol

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Re racism: This is why it is important to read all comments in context. The fact is that the race relations act far from creating stability has been misused & turned in one direction only to favour our overseas visitors & offspring. If the parties that be were to address this so that irrespective of nationality all are protected equally ie if a native goes for a job with business run by a foreigner & feels has been discriminated against is given the same rights as for the other way round. The RRA does not provide this at present. Without this balance there in naturally bound to be upset & also plays right into the hands of the likes of the BNP etc.
Likewise my comment of when in Rome- we have to abide by overseas countries regs when visiting or even if going to live abroad- we cannot usurp or overrule their laws & regs, so why does this happen here? Simply back to the RRA, it is a misnomer of law that means foreigners claim it & we have to jump as high as they say. Other countries have integration but not the same race relations agro this country has because they do not have a stupid act as the RRA.

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remember- look for the golly-the golly on the jar. thats racist now.whats goin on?

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I know, I'm always very concious of asking for a black coffee these days in case I offend someone. It's daft I know but I can imagine some people being upset by that.

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This was the whole point of my original comment, it is political correctness gone mad. What is good enough for one should be taken as a whole not subdivided, divided & still end up with the wrong sum that some will swear is right even if wrong. Simple answer is to rewrite the Race Relations Act so it is universal. After all don't other laws & regs get updated-this one never has been because of fear of upsetting certain parties.

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This is worse than I thought, personally I always speak a little louder when I use the word black in public just in case I do offend someone and believe me it's never an asian who gives me the eye, come on wake up before it's too late.

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[QUOTE=big alSimple answer is to rewrite the Race Relations Act [/QUOTE]

Unfortunatly voting for one of the main political parties will never get this done they haven't got the guts, so where does that leave us?

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You're right, it's the do gooders that are offended by stuff like that. Most of the time it's actually an insult to black people to think that they are so sensitive that they would be offended by it.

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Exactly!

But when is this mayor making do actually taking place then? (Just thought I'd get back to the subject :lol: )

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i was on broadwat today and noticed that not only was broadway a bit narrow for such a ride but all the way down the middle of broadway there are lamp posts every X amount of meters and payphones

are we going to need to remove some lamp posts as well to make it fit at extra expense

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Presumably it will be the middle of May sometime as I think the mayoral year runs from beginning of May. It usually coincides with local elections and the mayor is 'made' soon after.

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I don't think they've used their tapemeasures Chav.

Looks like we're going to miss all the fun because we'll be away for the second half of May (14th onwards)

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So, who is going to be our mayor from May onwards?

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dont worry i will be glued at the side of the ride with my camera to get a good shot of the first carrage to smash through woolworths window ;)

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May be they're using it as a way of clearing Broadway ready for the rebuilding - sort of a demolition service. They'll install this thing, it'll smash the lamposts down and break the paving and then they'll start putting the hanging baskets and benches in to make it look good again.

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Janet Storey.

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"I think people ought to know that we're anti-fascist, anti-violence and anti-racist. We're against ignorance."

Joe Strummer - The Clash

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A reasonable amount. Its where Brits complain about laws in certain areas where land grab can take place. Brits are trying to alter Spanish laws as our culture does not accept Land Grab. Its not a difficult subject.

So if you buy a big mansion and think your OK. Someone can come along and demand your land for 'low cost housing' and also make you pay for all the services, water, electricity, roads, sewage to the new site to be paid for by you cos you own the land. The only thing exempt from land grab is your 4 walls. Swimming pools, drives are not exempt and once Land Grab has been applied for their is nothing you can do and in most cases you will not only lose the land but face bills larger than the value of your property to facilitate the development of YOUR land.

I am not saying its fair. I am saying its Spanish and Brits are telling Spanish authorities their laws stink and are wrong.

Are you saying that British people behave well abroad? The argument so often is when in Rome.... So do we behave in Rome?

Lets start with British passport holding paedophiles [ I suppose they are decent white folks??] in Thalland etc.. is that acceptable? Football hooligans - which part of europe do you want me to name? Yob culture in Falaraki [or AN Other..]... some Rome some Romans... [gets down off soap box...!]

BTW neither extremes, CRE nor the BNP get any sympathy from me - the flip side of the same coin, both use identity politics to distinguish their arguments. Criminals are criminals, drug dealers are drug dealers, benefit cheats are benefit cheats and spongers are spongers, terrorists are terrorists.

My argument is for religion out of education and politics.

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behavior graham-i said i have never witnessed misbehavoir by british residents abroad,and that i have by tourists of differant race not just british.also most of the residents in spain(british,finnish)although not fluent but passable make efforts or learn the language,theres a big differance between resident and tourist,

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As this posting has wandered to the age old chestnut of race V culture V colour, can I draw your attention to the phrase "WHITE FLIGHT."


Our American friends/members have been very quiet over the "race issue" but it is them that termed the phrase "White Flight" It tells a story of U.S. Citizens being "chased" out of city centres by immigrants from the middle east and I feel that it is only a matter of time before the U.K. is as bad as certain states of the U.S.A.

I won't go into details, but check for yourselves on the internet...........

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[QUOTE=Graham Jones]Janet Storey.

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Heaven help us all then. This is the Janet Storey that can attend a photoshoot but never has put an appearance in at one local residents association meeting since elected. I have only ever seen her once despite living in Clayton 26 years, when campaigning about Whinney hill tip & road access. She even then got her facts wrong by calling for closure on a facility that her party agreed & signed licence to for ability to function to 2042! Never mind at least its only for 12 months. Restore my faith Janet & put something back into Clayton for a change.

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white flight n. The migration of whites to areas or states that are not racially diverse and that have relatively low rates of crime and other social ills.

And why not if it's the only way to keep a way of life that you want for yourself and your family. The problem is where do you go in England that is free from the problem ????

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downing street :D

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But surely there are criminals residing at numbers 10, 11 & 12 Downing Street?

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There are in the town hall at Accrington too!!!

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That would be in your honest opinion in case they would like to sue you.