Banned, the police Union Flag badge that backs our troops - Page 4

jaysay · 31-07-2009, 09:50

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Which people are offended..who are you talking about? I don't know of anyone in everyday life that has stated they are offended by the Union Jack, do you?.. it's all Daily Mail kak.

You been on that 18% proof beer Mancie

garinda · 31-07-2009, 09:54

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Originally Posted by Neil

You would be the first to complian if the Police started to wear "simple" KKK badges or something similar.

You've still not commented on the fact that police officers are allowed to wear Royal British Legion poppies, which aren't part of standard issue uniform either.

Or do you think they should be banned too?

Mancie · 31-07-2009, 10:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay

You been on that 18% proof beer Mancie

who.. that you know in your everyday life has said they are offended by the Union Jack..anyone?..or do you just get your knowledge from the Daily Mail?

Wynonie Harris · 31-07-2009, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Neil

You would be the first to complian if the Police started to wear "simple" KKK badges or something similar.

Exactly, Neil, that's the whole point I was making. The police shouldn't be allowed to wear badges supporting ANY faith, creed or political belief. But wearing a badge displaying the country's national flag and supporting the country's protectors is a completely different issue.

yerself · 31-07-2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

But wearing a badge displaying the country's national flag and supporting the country's protectors

Which country? Not all policemen are English/British. If we allow the wearing of the Union Flag would we not then have to permit asian or peruvian officers to display the flag of their country of origin? The BNP would have a field day. I'm with Neil on this.

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Originally Posted by Neil

they should not be allowed to wear any badges at all. They should only be allowed to wear the official uniform while on duty.

garinda · 31-07-2009, 10:36

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Originally Posted by yerself

I'm with Neil on this.

So you too would ban the wearing of poppies, made by the Royal British Legion?

Something they are currently entitled to wear, despite it not being part of their standard uniform.

garinda · 31-07-2009, 10:40

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Originally Posted by yerself

Not all policemen are English/British.

By the way you have to have British citizenship to join the police force in this country.

yerself · 31-07-2009, 10:42

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Originally Posted by garinda

So you too would ban the wearing of poppies

Yes. The police aren't a military force and cannot be seen to show bias toward any section of our society. Like religion and politics the police and military shouldn't be mixed.

Mancie · 31-07-2009, 10:48

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Originally Posted by garinda

So you too would ban the wearing of poppies, made by the Royal British Legion?

Something they are currently entitled to wear, despite it not being part of their standard uniform.

Never noticed any poppies worn by the Police when they were kicking the kak out of the miners in the month of November.

garinda · 31-07-2009, 10:49

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Originally Posted by yerself

Yes. The police aren't a military force and cannot be seen to show bias toward any section of our society. Like religion and politics the police and military shouldn't be mixed.

I disagree.

I don't see the wearing a poppy as being political.

Which is probably why the police are allowed to wear them, just as they are with the new emblem that this story is about.

(I bet if you asked any old miner, or anyone living in Northern Ireland, if they thought the police force was a military force, they might have a different opinion to your's.)

yerself · 31-07-2009, 10:52

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Originally Posted by garinda

I disagree.

We shall have to agree to disagree, I'm off to the Bread Basket for a butty.

garinda · 31-07-2009, 10:59

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Originally Posted by yerself

We shall have to agree to disagree, I'm off to the Bread Basket for a butty.

Good.

Ask them when their next naturist holiday is, and do make sure they've washed their hands before they handle your baguette.

Neil · 31-07-2009, 11:04

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Exactly, Neil, that's the whole point I was making. The police shouldn't be allowed to wear badges supporting ANY faith, creed or political belief. But wearing a badge displaying the country's national flag and supporting the country's protectors is a completely different issue.

I don't think it is different.

Neil · 31-07-2009, 11:06

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Originally Posted by garinda

You've still not commented on the fact that police officers are allowed to wear Royal British Legion poppies, which aren't part of standard issue uniform either.

Or do you think they should be banned too?

Yes I do as they are not part of the uniform. If they are part of the uniform of Remembrance Sunday then that is different - are they?

Wynonie Harris · 31-07-2009, 11:08

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Originally Posted by yerself

Which country? Not all policemen are English/British. If we allow the wearing of the Union Flag would we not then have to permit asian or peruvian officers to display the flag of their country of origin? The BNP would have a field day. I'm with Neil on this.

As Garinda says, you have to have adopted British nationality to join the police force. So, why should we need to allow police officers from abroad to wear the flag of their country of origin? They've come to this country, they've sworn their oath of allegiance, so they're UK citizens. You're not part of the fabled PC brigade that Mancie's searching for, are you?