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garinda · 27-11-2011, 21:09

What if someone truly believed all women in Clayton should be covered head to toe, and fully veiled, and it was their divine right that their beliefs should be imposed on everyone?

Should their beliefs be respected?

If you do think so, don't worry.

I won't respect 'em.

I'll fight, so we can all see your bonny face again.

Gordon Booth · 27-11-2011, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Wars are only fought in the name of religion because it gives that war a kind of validity.

Not true Margaret- think of the Crusades. Some joined in for power and land but driving it was a desire to retake the Holy Land- worthless except for Jerusalem.

Margaret Pilkington · 27-11-2011, 21:17

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Originally Posted by garinda

What if someone truly believed all women in Clayton should be covered head to toe, and fully veiled, and it was their divine right that their beliefs should be imposed on everyone?

Should their beliefs be respected?

If you do think so, don't worry.

I won't respect 'em.

I'll fight, so we can all see your bonny face again.

No, I don't believe that...and no, their beliefs do not repsect my belief. They are intolerant.
I'm surprised you had to ask........you get what you give out. If you don't give respect then you can expect none in return.
Respect of beliefs has to be a two way street...which is the point I have been labouring to get across.
It is obvious I have not made myself very clear......either that, or you have been jousting with me G.

I know you like a good joust.

garinda · 27-11-2011, 21:19

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

And isn't Buddhism one of the most peaceful, peaceloving religions.
Have there been any wars started by Bhuddists?
I am not being 'fly'when I ask this. I truly do not know.

As I said, religions have given us truly inspirational tenets, lessons, thought, and parables.

I'm happy I'm an atheist.

I'm also happy I was raised in the Methodist church.

As I am that I've also spent some wonderful times in Buddhist retreats.

I'm happy I have good friends of many different faiths, and of none.

As Gordon hinted at, with my friends, religion is a subject we don't spend too much time discussing.

Waste of time.

Time which could be much better spent, on more fun things.

Margaret Pilkington · 27-11-2011, 21:20

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Not true Margaret- think of the Crusades. Some joined in for power and land but driving it was a desire to retake the Holy Land- worthless except for Jerusalem.

So the crusades were not in the name of religion then....again, I am asking because I thought they were, but to be honest, that kind of history didn't float my boat when I was at school. I was probably gazing out of the window when I should have been listening.

garinda · 27-11-2011, 21:23

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

No, I don't believe that...and no, their beliefs do not repsect my belief. They are intolerant.
I'm surprised you had to ask........you get what you give out. If you don't give respect then you can expect none in return.
Respect of beliefs has to be a two way street...which is the point I have been labouring to get across.
It is obvious I have not made myself very clear......either that, or you have been jousting with me G.

I know you like a good joust.

But very few...if any, belief/faith systems can be truly tolerant, because fundamentally they believe they are right, and every other group, who have a different set of beliefs, are wrong.

Doug · 27-11-2011, 21:23

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Originally Posted by garinda

What if someone truly believed all women in Clayton should be covered head to toe, and fully veiled, and it was their divine right that their beliefs should be imposed on everyone?

Should their beliefs be respected?

If you do think so, don't worry.

I won't respect 'em.

I'll fight, so we can all see your bonny face again.

I know a few in Clayton that should be cover head to toe and shoved in a cupbroad.....

cashman · 27-11-2011, 21:24

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Originally Posted by Doug

I know a few in Clayton that should be cover head to toe and shoved in a cupbroad.....

So you met em as well Doug?

Margaret Pilkington · 27-11-2011, 21:25

I do hope that I am not one of those Doug.

Doug · 27-11-2011, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I do hope that I am not one of those Doug.

I love you Mrs. Pilkington. You know I do.

Margaret Pilkington · 27-11-2011, 21:27

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Originally Posted by garinda

But very few...if any, belief/faith systems can be truly tolerant, because fundamentally they believe they are right, and every other group, who have a different set of beliefs, are wrong.

So you agree with me then........they are intolerant.
I am preaching tolerance

but you can tell me I am wrong and I will tolerate your belief.

Margaret Pilkington · 27-11-2011, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Doug

I love you Mrs. Pilkington. You know I do.

Oh....I thought you had gone off me there for a minute.

Doug · 27-11-2011, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Oh....I thought you had gone off me there for a minute.

That will never happen.....

Margaret Pilkington · 27-11-2011, 21:33

Thank goodness for that!

garinda · 27-11-2011, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

So the crusades were not in the name of religion then....again, I am asking because I thought they were, but to be honest, that kind of history didn't float my boat when I was at school. I was probably gazing out of the window when I should have been listening.

At the Name of Jesus
every knee shall bow,
every tongue confess him
King of glory now!

We won't even mention Onward! Christian Soldiers.