Did Graham Jones do the right thing?

[yerself]

Is this Jonesy looking for a bench outside Accrington Market Hall?

[davemac]

I noticed that 46 people voted Yet there are 136 posts here, I know some are repeat posts but 46would hardley represent a true opinion of the people.
It's the same in elections, if more people became active and voted we would have a government that we deserved, and you can take that either way.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by davemac

I noticed that 46 people voted Yet there are 136 posts here, I know some are repeat posts but 46would hardley represent a true opinion of the people.
It's the same in elections, if more people became active and voted we would have a government that we deserved, and you can take that either way.

True, but it does give a clear picture, across a broad spectum of people, of public opinion in the little, micro world that is Accy Web.

Put it this way.

If I was Graham Jones, I'd sleep much easier knowing 41 people, or 89%, of the people gave me their backing.

Rather than a lowly, pitiful 5.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

Rather than a lowly, pitiful 5.

Which when you take away his own vote, and the few, from the blindly faithful party loyalists, it brings that support down to virtually, a big, fat, zero.

A relatively small sample.

But I know having the support of which vote would fill me with more confidence.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

He might even be laughing about it, whilst quaffing champagne, at some swanky London do, with the party elite.

Hope it's decent stuff -to take away the bitter taste...

“They put gall in my food and gave me vinegar for my thirst”.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Hope it's decent stuff -to take away the bitter taste...

“They put gall in my food and gave me vinegar for my thirst”.

'Go on Ed, I will have another little black pudding.'

'You're spoiling me, thanks.'

'Olives?'

'Oh right, what am I like?'

'No, it's all great up there.'

'Bit damp, but that's the north for you.'

'Not like here, it's really toasty.'

'I haven't worn my vest once in London, not once.'

'Europe? No.'

'Most people in Hyndburn haven't a clue where it is.'

'Probably think it's a new pound shop.'

'They certainly don't have any worries about it, that's for sure.'

'No, everytime I'm forced to go back all I ever hear from the old constituents is them moaning on about Google's unfair world domination of the search engine market place, and all about their sleepless nights worrying about copper theft.'

'That's all really.'

'Yes, I'd love a top up, ta ever so.'

'You really are spoiling me, you little tinker.'

'You'll have me squiffy, on my back, legs akimbo!'

'Oh there is a fat-arsed, disabled nut job, always moaning on and on, that he's nowhere to sit, when out shopping with his mummy.'

'We just pass him on to the old council, saying there's not a great deal I can do about that.'

[MargaretR]

When a person does not meet your expectations - don't blame them -
consider whether you may have expected too much

[garinda]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

When a person does not meet your expectations - don't blame them -
consider whether you may have expected too much

Wise words.

You're right.

Perhaps I expect the same kind of integrity that I saw growing up.

Thank you Margaret.

I'll go and have my tea now.

[accyman]

the only way to send a clear message is to slam the door in his face when he canvases next election time and simply dont vote for him and remember that anything he says or prommises will probably change 10 days later.

I for one will no longer vote labor while graham jones is standing.I could forgive a sordid affair or even a bit of expense fiddleing but spitting in the face of the people of his own home town is unforgivable.

His actions have proven to me that democracey is only available to us mere mortals when they decide we can have it which is every 5 years and when election night is over they know they can sit back and do as they please for another 5 years

never mind only 1 vote down but i do hope it catches on .

ps:

dont get excited torys i aint voting for you or libs either i would rather use the voting slip to wipe my ... well you get the drift

[Acrylic-bob]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

When a person does not meet your expectations - don't blame them -
consider whether you may have expected too much

I can remember my Granny often saying "you can't expect much where there isn't much to start with" Which seems to echo your quote Margaret. But the truly sad thing is that Graham actually is a decent, honest and trustworthy bloke. And as such, in many ways, represents the most admirable traits of the people of our borough. Or at least he did until he had his head turned by the fratricidal Milliband who, it will be remembered, not only stabbed his own brother in the back, but also had to be publicly shamed into marrying the mother of his child. What a role model.

[Tealeaf]

This is an excerpt from 'The All-Party UK Politicians Year Book 2012', just published. From chapter 1:

....political decisions fall into 4 categories:

a) Right decisions (rarely made)

b) Wrong decisions (usually made)

c) Hidden decisions (no one knows who made it and why)

d) U turns (in which politicians promise one thing and do the opposite).....







.....

[mobertol]

Ha! So "Bench-gate" falls into b) and c) possibly to become d) at some un-specified moment in the future....

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

He might even be laughing about it, whilst quaffing champagne, at some swanky London do, with the party elite.

Afternoon tea in Westminster.

"Two lumps and a sponge finger!" (From the 2 Ronnies -The Worm that turned!)

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Graham actually is a decent, honest and trustworthy bloke. And as such, in many ways, represents the most admirable traits of the people of our borough.

Totally agree.

I think he is.

I thought he'd be a great representative in Westminster, for the people of Hyndburn.

That's probably the real reason I'm so very disappointed.

I'll never agree with his pro-continuing E.U. membership stance, but I'd respect his view.

What I'm unable to forgive is that he publicly stated he had no problem with a 'democratic' solution to this issue, via a referendum, and then two weeks voted against giving us that right.

Even though there was ample evidence, both locally, and nationally, that people are desperate to have their opinions counted in a referendum, regarding our future relationship with the European Union.

A s I've said, I think this is such a vitally important issue for our country, I will never again vote for anyone, or any political party who doesn't actively campaign that we are allowed a say in our future, in an in/out referendum.

No matter what happens over the changes re: the Boundary Commission, I can never again give my vote to Graham.

Personally, that saddens me.

But because of this vitally important issue, you're either with the people.

Or you're against them.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Or at least he did until he had his head turned by the fratricidal Milliband who, it will be remembered, not only stabbed his own brother in the back, but also had to be publicly shamed into marrying the mother of his child. What a role model

Again, agree.

For Miliband to say their relationship didn't need a piece of paper to prove it was committed, and shortly afterwards cave in, in the hope of currying public favour, shows personal weakness.

It certainly doesn't exhibit an assured self-confidence, or indeed that he thinks the publics' intelligence is all that bright.