Professionals fast tracked into teaching. - Page 2

cashman · 10-03-2009, 19:33

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Originally Posted by katex

Think this course will be extremely arduous too Margaret, and linked with heavy interviews to syphon out the potential students to qualify for these courses. More so, I suspect, from graduate > teaching training.

ya seem to have more faith in this cretinous government than most.

Royboy39 · 10-03-2009, 19:43

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ya seem to have more faith in this cretinous government than most.

Can't believe you said that.

As a young soldier I was sent on active service after 6 months training, after that it was learn as you go on.
6 months training is better than throwing them in at the deep end straight from Uni or College?

cashman · 10-03-2009, 19:46

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Can't believe you said that.

thats cos i say it as i see it.

if i think they are right i say so, if not then cashys coming.

katex · 10-03-2009, 20:09

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thats cos i say it as i see it.

if i think they are right i say so, if not then cashys coming.

Never any grey areas with you Cashy. Just out and out criticism before we know all the facts.

We don't really know what is involved here as yet, all we know is that education is short of people like mathematicians, and these people are on the redundent heap, and have the best brains in the country. If there is any hope that we can pursuade them to pass on their knowledge to our future generations, then I am all for it.

I think worth a try at least. Nothing to do with the my feelings towards this Government ... just think worth a go.

cashman · 10-03-2009, 20:26

my critisim stems from the fact, to me theres plenty of good teachers as well as the chaff, that have undertaken much longer training than 6 months, that to me undermimes their efforts.

katex · 10-03-2009, 21:09

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Originally Posted by cashman

my critisim stems from the fact, to me theres plenty of good teachers as well as the chaff, that have undertaken much longer training than 6 months, that to me undermimes their efforts.

Aah, but did it need longer than 6 months ? Used to be 2 years in our day Cashy ... but then they had to add extra knowledge to their chosen subject, which took up most of their time. These people will have the knowledge, just training in social, streamlining their subject, disciplinary and presentation matters. If they have got it .. they will make it, and will make just as good a teacher as the 'just out from college trained teachers'.

cashman · 10-03-2009, 21:19

Disagree, fer me Character plus proper training makes a good teacher, not anyone will do, just cos theve been thrown on the dole.

katex · 10-03-2009, 21:24

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Disagree, fer me Character plus proper training makes a good teacher, not anyone will do, just cos theve been thrown on the dole.

Like I said, I do not think they will take on people who are 'anyone'

cashman · 10-03-2009, 21:28

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Like I said, I do not think they will take on people who are 'anyone'

from the white collar brigade,yer joking, owt to improve the employment figures,

katex · 10-03-2009, 21:34

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Originally Posted by cashman

from the white collar brigade,yer joking, owt to improve the employment figures,

Don't see it that way, making use of people's skills/knowledge in an area where there is a defecit.

cashman · 10-03-2009, 21:36

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Don't see it that way, making use of people's skills/knowledge in an area where there is a defecit.

perhaps its cos ya aint had much experience of the political "Big Guns"? cos if ya had ya would be as cynical as me.

Royboy39 · 10-03-2009, 21:41

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Don't see it that way, making use of people's skills/knowledge in an area where there is a defecit.

Getting people into jobs educted to gradute standard or not can't be a bad thing surely?

katex · 10-03-2009, 21:47

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Getting people into jobs educted to gradute standard or not can't be a bad thing surely?

These people will already hold degrees and Masters. Just chose to go out into the business world with their qualifications. Sorry Royboy, are you agreeing with me ?

Royboy39 · 10-03-2009, 21:53

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These people will already hold degrees and Masters. Just chose to go out into the business world with their qualifications. Sorry Royboy, are you agreeing with me ?

Not many 'jobs for the boys' left....I will say yes to agreeing with you...not everyone who you consider daft, slaver.

garinda · 10-03-2009, 23:38

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I don't see any particular reason why this could not work myself, after all, as pointed out imparting knowledge to others is a talent and an art.

With the 1 year training at the moment, whose to say these present students are ever going to 'grasp' it at the end of the day. No amount of training can bring this out in some people.

Many of these candidates will probably have some knowledge of training people in their work situation.

I sort of agree.

You're just as likely to find a good, or bad teacher for that matter, as a result of recruiting this way because the recession.

At least these people will be able to pass on something of what it's actually like in the real big bad world, rather than some dopey kid whose done a years post-grad teaching course, after doing a degree in me-dya studies at the University of Bognor.

Good teachers are so important. They can either scar you, or impart a love of a subject for life.

Wherever they recruit them from, I just hope they manage to find the ones who are going to be good at it, rather than attracting those who may see it as just a stop gap job until they can return to a more cushy job in Civvy Street, once things begin to pick up in the City.

My only hope is that no directors of any newly part privatised banks are given jobs this way. Most of whom seem to have lacked even the most basic academic qualifications you'd need to be a bank teller, never mind run one...into the ground.