sack the incompetant - Page 4

fireman · 26-04-2006, 11:27

I know the feeling Margarat I have been their on many occasion and have several "T" Shirts, all of which may i add have sweat stains on them.

lettie · 26-04-2006, 11:37

There is nothing worse than having to attend an inquest and answer questions, even when the fault is not yours. We have many systems in place for reporting bad practice, risk management, clinical governance and dealing with the incompetent within the NHS. The trouble that I find is that if a doctor consistently performs badly they are very difficult to report and you feel as if the senior medical staff do not take you seriously. There have been so many reports up and down the country lately that the GMC are looking into some sort of medical supervision similar to the supervision system which midwives have had for donkey's years. They are also looking at a similar system for nurses, as they are not subject to formal supervision either.

The midwifery supervision system provides support for midwives and patients. All midwives are allocated a supervisor of midwives and they must meet at least once a year to discuss various issues. The supervisor provides support to midwives who wish to complain about bad practice, she provides information on legal and training issues and makes sure that the midwives within her remit are up to date on current issues. Every 12 months midwives have a legal duty to notify their intention to practice to the local supervising authority. If the midwife fails to do this, or does not meet the criteria to notify, she is no longer able to work as a midwife. A supervisor of midwives can ask to see any examples of documented paperwork, proof of learning and current NMC membership documentation of any midwife within her remit.

Oh yes, we are accountable in the NHS, not only are we accountable to the patients, colleagues, professional bodies and the law of the land but we also get sued for screw ups.

I wonder if anyone would take out a case against the government, should one of their family members be murdered or raped by one of these criminals who should have been deported...

Margaret Pilkington · 26-04-2006, 11:59

In relation to reporting Doctors....yes, I have been there too...and been interviewed by independent medical specialists acting for the GMC.....and that is not pleasant either.....I was however, spared the anguish of having to testify at an employment tribunal.

fireman · 26-04-2006, 15:55

The whole issue stinks and now Mr two jags Prescot has admitted to having an affair what the hell is next. It is time for change. BUT..who the hell do we vote for they all think they have the right to screw up and screw each other without being accountable for their actions. We cannot even look to our government for morals these days I despair and worry for the future of my kids and grandkids.

fireman · 26-04-2006, 15:56

The whole issue stinks and now Mr two jags Prescot has admitted to having an affair what the hell is next. It is time for change. BUT..who the hell do we vote for they all think they have the right to screw up and screw each other without being accountable for their actions. We cannot even look to our government for morals these days I despair and worry for the future of my kids and grandkids.

fireman · 26-04-2006, 15:57

Sorry I pressed it twice just getting so up tight about this country and its so called leaders. They are making us a total laughing stock.

SPUGGIE J · 27-04-2006, 07:54

Will 2 Jags be forced out or resign? personelly I think he wont for when this guy makes a gaff its 24 caret diamond encrusted gold of one. All the others look perfect in comparison. Send his bots for therepy.

Margaret Pilkington · 27-04-2006, 12:55

When the Charles Clarke fiasco hit the fan i wondered what item of news would be leaked to take the heat out of the situation...now I know!
However this woman could cavort(for want of a better term) with this chap beats me...even if you were blind, you wouldn't...would you?

jambutty · 27-04-2006, 13:27

There is no accounting for women’s taste in men. Maybe it’s a power/position/money thing and reflected glory?

For my money Clarke has to go and go now before he does any more damage and take the rest of Labour with him, especially the president – sorry I mean PM.

Margaret Pilkington · 27-04-2006, 13:43

Well, the power/position/money thing wouldn't do it for me Jambutty.
However you cut it he is an obnoxious man who has forgotten his roots and why he went into politics in the first place.
When the tories were in power he lead the offensive against tory sleaze......the phrase pot and kettle spring to mind.

SPUGGIE J · 27-04-2006, 16:12

JUDGING BY HIS SIZE HE DEFFINATELY HAS BEEN HAVING HIS CAKE AND EATING IT!!

I wonder what else is going to apear from the cupboard?

fireman · 27-04-2006, 20:29

The trouble is when these sleeze bags do get the bullet or be forced to resign afew months later they re appear in a senior position with thir fantastic pension untouched. BLUNKET FOR INSTANCE.

cashman · 27-04-2006, 23:16

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Originally Posted by fireman

The trouble is when these sleeze bags do get the bullet or be forced to resign afew months later they re appear in a senior position with thir fantastic pension untouched. BLUNKET FOR INSTANCE.

agree entirely they always come up smelling of roses, the only thing i,m not certain of though is if porking a secretary is a capital offence there would be many managers and directors out of a job, whilst it can be said the action is morally wrong, not sure if its a capital offence? (now if hes found to have used our MONEY to pork her) then thats a differant ball game.

fireman · 28-04-2006, 07:50

She was probably on paid overtime (paid for by us) In a luxury London flat (paid for by us) Dinner, and not a cheap take away (Paid for by us) on his expence account (paid for by us) The wine was more than likely provided by Blair out of his 1.5 million Pound booze and hospitality account. (paid for by us) IS IT NOW BECOMING A CAPITAL OFFENCE.

pendy · 28-04-2006, 12:41

Many years ago, when I did A level "British Government and Political System" there was a thing called "Ministerial responsibility". This doctrine stated that if a department screwed up, it was ALWAYS the fault of the minister in charge, and that minister was expected to resign. What the h**l, though, this lot have torn up the rule book on so many issues, what does one more matter?

On the subject of Prescott, if it came to a choice, I rather be punched by him anytime!