The Tory "dirty tricks brigade" and the media

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

PB, has been thru his position been good for Ossy , (natural, nothing wrong,local lad, you look after your own nest)

That's what always makes his old neighbour and classmate Wynonie laugh.

Wynonie, the lad with Accrington running through his veins instead of blood.

[garinda]

I honestly don't know if there's areas which receive more than their fair share of benefits, and I think it's irrelevant which location provides more funding per capita.

The borough should be seen as one body, and monies spent where it is needed, irrespective of which town, village or parish it happens to be in.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by garinda

That's what always makes his old neighbour and classmate Wynonie laugh.

Wynonie, the lad with Accrington running through his veins instead of blood.

so does that mean PB will never be accepted as a gobbiner

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by garinda

I honestly don't know if there's areas which receive more than their fair share of benefits, and I think it's irrelevant which location provides more funding per capita.

The borough should be seen as one body, and monies spent where it is needed, irrespective of which town, village or parish it happens to be in.

That's a pretty good philosophy and there really should be some sort of priorities list across Hyndburn but I fear my head is in the Utopian clouds on that score at the moment.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

so does that mean PB will never be accepted as a gobbiner

Depends who you ask.

The acolytes would argue that being elected by the people since 1878 would qualify him some claim to that status.

Whilst Gobbiners view him as a cosmopolitan sophisticate, bringing his metropolitan fancy ways were they aren't appreciated.

[MargaretR]

Shamocracy always benefits self interest
Communism brings down all to same low level
....a no win situation

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by garinda

Depends who you ask.

The acolytes would argue that being elected by the people since 1878 would qualify him some claim to that status.

Whilst Gobbiners view him as a cosmopolitan sophisticate, bringing his metropolitan fancy ways were they aren't appreciated.

In the end, he's a big city boy like me...always was, always will be.

Incidentally, Gary, I hope that was a typo in your second para...we're not that soddin' old!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

That's a pretty good philosophy and there really should be some sort of priorities list across Hyndburn but I fear my head is in the Utopian clouds on that score at the moment.

As much as you first grated on me, perhaps there's room at H.B.C. for someone who's striving for Utopia here.

(Perhaps the anti-Labour accusations never came from the party faithful, because they think there was some fiendishly Machiavellian, pre-planned, plot, when anger slowly turns to support.)

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

In the end, he's a big city boy like me...always was, always will be.

Incidentally, Gary, I hope that was a typo in your second para...we're not that soddin' old!

No mistake...this time.

Just my stab at humour, because it feels like an awfully long time.

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by garinda

Depends who you ask.

The acolytes would argue that being elected by the people since 1878 ?would qualify him some claim to that status.

Whilst Gobbiners view him as a cosmopolitan sophisticate, bringing his metropolitan fancy ways were they aren't appreciated.

Do Accy webbers Niel and Gayle count as metropolitan sophisticates ?

by the way where is Gayle ? (or shouldn't I ask )

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by garinda

No mistake...this time.

Just my stab at humour, because it feels like an awfully long time.

I wonder if, when he first ran for the council in Ossy, the local Tories got all upset about having an "offcomer" foisted on them?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by steeljack

Do Accy webbers Niel and Gayle count as metropolitan sophisticates ?

by the way where is Gayle ? (or shouldn't I ask )

Niel's a born and bred Ribble Valleyite, with Ossy roots.

Gayle's an Ossy lass, but with some roots from over t'border, in the bustling, nearly a city, town of Blackburn.

They both have dual passports.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by garinda

Whilst Gobbiners view him as a cosmopolitan sophisticate, bringing his metropolitan fancy ways were they aren't appreciated.

Willows Lane to New Lane...a five minute car ride, but worlds apart.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Willows Lane to New Lane...a five minute car ride, but worlds apart.

Before I'm jumped on, I would like to state he is a very good local councillor, and that's why he has been one for so long.

Historically Ossy has been traditionally Labour, like many of the other towns and villages that make up the borough.

So it's nothing to do with Ossy being some sort of 'safe seat'. It isn't.

I know lots of people who have benefited from his work as a councillor. On that level you'll rarely hear a word of criticism.

I think he's re-elected because of the man he is. A man with a proven track record.

He might be a pompous tyrant in council chambers, I don't know, but face to face he's a nice bloke.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

Before I'm jumped on, I would like to state he is a very good local councillor, and that's why he has been one for so long.

Historically Ossy has been traditionally Labour, like many of the other towns and villages that make up the borough.

So it's nothing to do with Ossy being some sort of 'safe seat'. It isn't.

I know lots of people who have benefited from his work as a councillor. On that level you'll rarely hear a word of criticism.

I think he's re-elected because of the man he is. A man with a proven track record.

He might be a pompous tyrant in council chambers, I don't know, but face to face he's a nice bloke.

Just popping this post in an evidence bag.

So it can be used by the defence, the next time Jaysay writes to the Observer, slating this forum a place of 'vile and vicious attack', against his old chum.