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i want to thank the lad and a girl who looked after me on new years eve i was in pub on church st when i was assulted by door staff from the baileys and thrown on to the floor out side i have no idea why if any one knows please let me know .it a poor do when the ones who are sopposed to stop trouble are the ones throwing the fists .i have got a cut under my left eye and lumps on my head it has put me off going in there ever again until they change the door staff as they are not professional .if you do go in to the town avoid the baileys.

once again i want to thank the girl who helped me and the lad who came to the hospital with me as i do not know who they are .at least there is some good people out there

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That's terrible rainman. Hope you are okay now, just goes to show there are some decent people left in Accrington.

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So long as stuff like this happens and people are helping other people i have faith in the human race

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Have you reported the incident to the management of Baileys......or better still contacted the police.....you may have a case for common assault.....especially if there are witnesses.

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When I used to work up at Utopia, you would get these great people who would look after/defend someone when they had been in a scuffle, but didn't want to go so far as to give a statement.
Also the rumours that I have heard about the doormen at Baileys, makes me think they are no better than cavemen. You might not have done anything to offend them personally, but it wouldn't be the first time that they have kicked someone out and thrown a few punches as a favour to one of their friends who was already inside. Have you any enemies that might have asked them to do something like that maybe?
Its worth complaining to the Baileys management and reporting the incident to the police. All doormen are supposed to be registered now as well, but I cannot think what the organisation is called.

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I agree with Pixie. Report the incident to the police, and make a written complaint to Baileys management. Ask to see any security video footage taken inside the establishment.

The retards on the door should be brought to book for their actions. The likelihood is that the police will say that there is insufficient evidence to press charges, but it does make them awarethat the door staff of this establishment are behaving like a set of neanderthals.

The post that you started this thread with, place it in the Accy Observer in the letters column, thanking whoever came to your assistance. If Baileys receive bad press through the local madia, maybe they will scrutinise the quality of their door staff a little more closely.

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Just one question Rainman. Were you sober at the time of the incident?

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I agree with sparkoligist and willow.No reason for that behaviour unless you were not behaving yourself

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yeah i have to second one of the comments above that they do help out any friends inside...

shame thing was the guy they decided to execute the favour to was like a black belt in three martial arts.

the company that ur meant to register with is SIA - u can ask them if they are registered etc...

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I am also of the opinion that you should report the matter but don't hold out much hope of anything being done. Nevertheless you should make your complaint known.

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Although I am NOT in favour of violence being a solution, I think I know who and what you are going on about there mani. The person who was on the recieving end on the violence was cheating on the other guys sister, to whom he was apparently engaged. All very Jerry Springer.
No-one deserves to get beaten up, but if the bloke in this instance had kept it in his pants it wouldn't have happened. I do hope that this isn't you rainman, as it severely lessens any sympathy I had for you in the first place.

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Whatever reason a person may feel they have to justify attacking another, violence is not acceptable, especially not from the people who are supposed to be employed to prevent trouble.

It may even have been a case of mistaken identity. That could lead to retaliation from the one attacked and before you know it the whole things can escalate into gang warfare.

People do cheat on their relationships and doing so is very wrong, but I don't accept that beating them up is the answer.

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I am not condoning any violence or the doorman and their actions. I am pointing out that its a little harder to feel sorry for someone who cheats on their fiance. Call me old fashioned, but unless you are single its not acceptable.

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thanks for all your coments and to answer 1 of the comments no i have not been cheeting or messing with some one elses girlfriend .yes i was drunk it was new years eve .yes it is going to be reportied to the police ,there was witnesses but i did not get there names so i don't think anything will come of it but at leased the police will be aware of it .

rainman

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No, it is not. I would suggest however, that Rainman, in a state of intoxication, may not have a full recollection of the incident and the events leading up to it. He could well have done something to which he is now entirely oblivious, such as groping, without consent, a young ladies bum or maybe leaving a sticky, multi-coloured deposit of cheap lager and carrot on the "Greeter's" shoes. Whatever, I would suggest that before he makes a formal complaint he does try to establish the pertinent facts.

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in reply to the comment willow the whisp made i do not go round groping without concent .what your saying is it is okay for someone to be beaten up if they are drunk,as they will not remember the day after .

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Hang on a mo that wasn't my comment. That was Tealeaf's.

I was saying that simply being drunk was no reason to be attacked.

It's important to have independent witnesses.

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sorry willow my mistake

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:) .............

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I am not saying that whatsoever. By your own admission, you were under the influence of alcohol, while in your opening post you say that you "had no idea why". (the incident occured). It would seem to me, therefore, that either this was a totally unprovoked attack,which, however wanting the standards of the local doormen, is still rather unusual or something happened to which you were part which was to lead to yourself incurring the injuries you did.

In your position, until you are more fully acquainted with the facts, then it would not be wise to make a complaint Should those facts subsequently come to light - in the form of people prepared to make a witness statement (and being of sufficient rigour to stand up in court) - then go ahead and do it.But unless you have sufficient, hard evidence, then don't bother

By the way, I've worked as a doorman myself and my opinion of the few dorrmen I've come across in Accy is that they're a bunch of *******.

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i have found out that 4 people were arested for fighting in bailys that night may be the doormen thought i had something to do with that which i did not

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I sympathise with you rainman, Many years back, I used to be a taxi driver and witnessed many attacks on helpless victims including ladies at the doors of various night clubs by thugs that call themselves doormen.

I could be wrong and maybe tealeaf could enlighten me as he is an ex doorman, but am I right in thinking that doormen have a certain amount of protection from the law as long as they are on the premises and cannot be arrested unless the offence takes place in the street?

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Doormen have no more 'protection' under law than anyone else; they are entitled to evict someone from private premises but any violence used should be proportionate to the threat. It is no different in many ways, than the current law pertaining to the rights of householders when faced with a burglar, which as most of you are aware is the subject of some controversy.

This is a grey subject and at the end of the day if, as a householder or doorman, you thump someone or worse, and find yourself on the wrong end of an action by the CPS then the outcome will depend on the interpretation of the evidence by the magistrates or the jury.

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If I was to find someone in my house, they would find themselves at the receiving end of a hard object.

It's not just my home I am protecting, it's my wife and kids too.

I would rather be up for a GBH/ABH charge, than have my family harmed