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Neil 11-10-2007 21:42

Re: mechanical aptitude
 
Howstuffworks "How Gear Ratios Work"

WillowTheWhisp 11-10-2007 21:46

Re: mechanical aptitude
 
Hmm, thanks Neil, but I still can't find an illustration of a planetary gear system where the inner cog wheels keep turning when the outer one is held still. How can they?

West Ender 11-10-2007 21:47

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I only got 56%. Don't bring your car to me when it goes wrong. :(

cashman 11-10-2007 21:52

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 480637)
I only got 56%. Don't bring your car to me when it goes wrong. :(

he he he, you'll do a better job than me westender:D

jambutty 11-10-2007 21:52

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 480554)
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/quizze...alAptitude.php

I got 86%


Anyone beat it?

Shame it doesn't tell you which you got wrong.

I got 94%

It does tell you which you got wrong and it even got one answer wrong itself. Well not so much wrong as having two correct answers and only selecting one of them as correct and of course the other one became incorrect.

Q48 – In a naturally aspirated engine, air enters the cylinder because of

Their answer – From atmospheric pressure pushing it in.

I selected from suction caused by the piston going down, which is the same thing. In fact it is probably more correct than their answer.

The piston moves down and tries to create a vacuum which is equalised by the air pushing in from outside. If the piston didn’t move down there would be nowhere for the air to rush in. The piston doesn’t move down because of the air rushing in but because the crankshaft is still rotating after ignition and pulls it down, thus creating a vacuum, which is equalised by the air rushing in.

So my score should have been 96%.

Lilly 11-10-2007 21:55

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Wow! Well done, Jambutty.:)

entwisi 11-10-2007 21:56

Re: mechanical aptitude
 
Willow, the fact that the three small wheels are teh same size allows it to keep moving. if one was a different size then it would lock up as it would be trying to move faster than teh others which wouldn't be possible. as it is each is trying to move in exactly teh same direction and speed so it 'works'

West Ender 11-10-2007 21:58

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 480640)
he he he, you'll do a better job than me westender:D


Hey, Cashman, between the 2 of us we got 96%. Maybe if we worked together we could






****** it up completely. :)

SPUGGIE J 11-10-2007 22:02

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68% but I am useless at theory so I am suprised. :eek:

jambutty 11-10-2007 22:08

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 480632)
Hmm, thanks Neil, but I still can't find an illustration of a planetary gear system where the inner cog wheels keep turning when the outer one is held still. How can they?

Because all the internal gears are free to move laterally as well as rotating.

I can’t think of anywhere where such a configuration could be used though.

jambutty 11-10-2007 22:10

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 480644)
Wow! Well done, Jambutty.:)

Thanks Lilly but someone of my age and experience in mechanical and electrical engineering should have got 100%, it was that easy.

WillowTheWhisp 11-10-2007 22:10

Re: mechanical aptitude
 
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 480641)

Q48 – In a naturally aspirated engine, air enters the cylinder because of

Their answer – From atmospheric pressure pushing it in.

I selected from suction caused by the piston going down, which is the same thing. In fact it is probably more correct than their answer.

I chose suction too and I'm still convinced that is more right than their answer but I can see the logic of 'air pushing into a vacuum' but to my logic air is sucked into a vacuum.

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 480645)
Willow, the fact that the three small wheels are teh same size allows it to keep moving. if one was a different size then it would lock up as it would be trying to move faster than teh others which wouldn't be possible. as it is each is trying to move in exactly teh same direction and speed so it 'works'

If the outer rim didn't have cogs then I would agree with you Ian, but the cogs in the outer rim are locked into the cogs in those three small 'planetary' wheels which in turn are locked into the central 'sun'. In any series of gears if one of the cogwheels is held rigid then it prevents the movement of any wheel it interlocks with. So I still say they couldn't possibly move. Now if that outer rim was smooth then of course the three planetary wheels would slide effortlessly within it and their answer would apply, but the rim in the image is not smooth.

WillowTheWhisp 11-10-2007 22:12

Re: mechanical aptitude
 
Cancel that! :D I've just had a rethink. I can now visualise them going on a wander within the outer wheel! :D

MargaretR 11-10-2007 22:13

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 480659)
I chose suction too and I'm still convinced that is more right than their answer but I can see the logic of 'air pushing into a vacuum' but to my logic air is sucked into a vacuum.



If the outer rim didn't have cogs then I would agree with you Ian, but the cogs in the outer rim are locked into the cogs in those three small 'planetary' wheels which in turn are locked into the central 'sun'. In any series of gears if one of the cogwheels is held rigid then it prevents the movement of any wheel it interlocks with. So I still say they couldn't possibly move. Now if that outer rim was smooth then of course the three planetary wheels would slide effortlessly within it and their answer would apply, but the rim in the image is not smooth.

:eek: That's decided it - I'm definately not gonna look:eek:

steeljack 11-10-2007 22:14

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 480619)
Don't read this if you still want to try the quiz. If you've already done it then please scroll down.
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agree with you on this , that was my thought (seized up gearbox)


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