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Im wondering what YOU believe in. Ill list a few subjects and if you can please answer if you do believe in said subject and why you believe that.

Ghosts


Aliens


Heaven/hell


Telepathy


Telekinesis


De Javu or premonition's


Or any stories that you cant explain or things that have happened to you in the past

All your sensible answers and views will be appreciated.

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................................why do i have to have a reason to believe?

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You dont have to have a reason. I belive in things but have no reason to believe in them if that makes sense.

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it makes sense cos i am the same......

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thats where i am on this lot.

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I have experienced all of them except aliens - perhaps I shouldn't have turned down the invite to one of THE garden parties :D, because the queen is one (according to David Icke)
Reptilian humanoid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Ghosts - 'Spirits' is the best term for what I believe are present, in that I believe there is an enduring self in a human that can be attached to a certain building after death.


Aliens - other life forms on different planets/galaxies? Sure.


Heaven/hell - definitely not. No benevolent creator would have such barbarian ideas in practice. I believe heaven/hell concepts were conjured up by elitist Christians who wanted to scare people into acting a certain way. Nothing more than carrot & the stick method here.


Telepathy/Telekinesis - I believe that, from evidence such as that of teenage girls' overactive brains during sleep being able to move objects during the night, that brain power can be extremely effective, to the point of moving objects and communicating in some way with another brain.

De Javu or premonition's - I'm not too sure what I believe with this. Probably somewhere between theories of reincarnation and parallel universes for me. I believe the subconscious is more knowing than the conscious, and is aware of our past events either as an individual or more generally, as a species.

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I'm sceptical about all of them except déja vu and premonitions, both of which I have experienced.

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shaker maker pretty much expresses my opinion on this, apart from Ghosts and Déjà vu

Ghosts, apparitions, whatever you want to call them, whatever form they take and whatever the viewers perception of the apparitions intent ( be it “good” or “evil”) I think are a figment of our imagination, fuelled by a highly emotive state of the viewer.

Déjà vu, I’ve experienced twice, but many years ago. It’s a strange feeling when it happens, as to why it happens, who knows

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Ghosts - Nope, dead is dead. The end. Nothing else but switched off. As in an ex parrot.


Aliens - I would be surprised if there was no more life out there somewhere


Heaven/hell - Nope. I don't believe in God so I can't really believe in these. To be more accurate I don't really care if there is a God or not. If there is He is not the good careing being many of you believe Him to be.


Telepathy - Not sure on this one. I like to see proof of things before I blindly follow along with the crowd.


Telekinesis - Same as telepathy. It would save getting up to find the TV remote though.


De Javu or premonition's - No. I think you have to believe that time can be manipulated to believe in these. How else can you see something that has yet to happen. Unless your a witch ;)

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I feel realy spooked ,our clock has started chimeing twelve times now every time its eleven o clock,,,its realy weird ...its gone on for about a week now ,,I am now expecting something to happen at that time every day ,,,,,,,,,,, otherwise its fine....:eek:

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You are spooked because your clock is faulty :confused:

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It went funny JUST ONCE before ,it just stopped dead for no reason,,,and then weeks later Uri Gella was on tele and said touch any broken clocks or watches and low and behold it worked perfect until now...

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Ghosts......nah, i think once your dead thats it...nothing...zilch....end off!


Aliens.......oh yeh, there must be, we are not the only ones in this big universe, we just havent found em yet;)


Heaven/hell........dont be daft:rolleyes:


Telepathy......you tell me...:D


Telekinesis.....nope, sorry!


De Javu or premonition's......for some reason i do.....ya know something im sure we done this before:confused:



if it proven then ill believe:D

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I believe there may be an afterlife, not necessarily heaven and hell, because what if what we believe to be heaven turned out to actually be hell in the afterlife? Should we be praying to go somewhere after death that we know nothing about?
And what if bad people where in heaven because what they did was what 'god' or whatever intended? I mean, the eye for an eye theory derives from natural law, as far back as biblical times, and if you are tried at the 'gates of heaven' and given the oppurtunity to explain your sins, what if the evil people of this world find ways to justify their behaviour that allows them to be redeemed? Isn't everyone able to be forgiven if they confess their sins and ask for forgiveness? Is heaven even a place we would really want to go to anyway if it did exist? Or is hell the more favourable because it's the honest approach, accepting punishment rarther than begging for it to be ignored like a coward? Or what if we are in heaven or hell now? Can good people wrongly be damned to hell for misconceptions of their actions?

I believe in deja vu, I have those kind of feelings quite regularly, like I've done things before or i've met people before that I actually haven't, and there is no possible chance I have.

I am unsure about ghosts, aliens could very well exist, i dont think its unrealistic to say that there are probably other life forms somewhere. I dont have an opinion on the telepathy and telekinesis.

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i believe that when we die our spirit is around
until a child obtains its own personality
i believe that personality is taken from someone somewhere
if that makes sense
cant believe in a god that says
say your sorry before you die and you will come to heaven
just think if the likes of hitler has said sorry they will be up there waiting
i do believe in the power of mediums
slightly mixed up :o:o

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Total garbage, the lot.

This is the sort of nonsense I would expect from an American website - certainly not from Accy, where people should have more sense.

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Apart from tealeafs dribble at the end thanks for all your replies but as anyone else got anything to add?

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Ghosts
Yes i do believe a part of you stays but am some what less believing about those parts being able to muster pysical power.

Aliens
Yes definately there must be

Heaven/hell
Personally i dont believe in this

Telepathy
Yes why not. How do we know that when ever someone says "oh i was going to just say that" it was the act of telepathy but on a sub conscious level. I dont mean every time it happens but who knows that it isnt the case some of the time.

Telekinesis
Telekinesis is the act of moving objects purely by the power of the mind for the person who didnt know what it meant. Yes id say its possible but we just havent tapped into the true potential of the human brain.

De Javu or premonition's
Yes for sure as i have de javu about 5 times a week

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Ghosts
Heard one - a loud evil chuckle which made my neck hair bristle
Smelt one - relatives owned the old court house in St Johs I O Man and the haunting was a very strong smell of flowers which lasted a few mins at a time.
Felt one - a most disconcerting moment when something unseen joined me in a double bed in a hotel in Sandowne Isle Of Wight
Seen one - a magenta coloured, spinning, galaxy shaped light near the ceiling in another hotel room


Aliens- missed out on that one


Heaven/hell - not in a biblical sense but living emotional experience of bliss and torment


Telepathy - I often used to shock a close friend by repeating word for word what he was thinking


Telekinesis my son was told how, and he did it - moving a small object by mindpower.


De Javu or premonition's the Kings Cross fire was described to me 3 days before it happened by a friend who has prophetic dreams

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Americans are people just like everyone else, and America is also home to the top University in the world, so they must have SOME intelligence and not all be dumb!

Whats wrong with having beliefs in the unexplained?

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No thats something i dont believe lol

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Well they wouldn't beat britains universities to the number 1 spot if they didn't have intelligent people to get the university there!

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americans are lovely people,i base that on visiting quite a few citys etc over there, but gotta say theres a high percentage of blinkered dummies.:D

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yes i beleave in them all and i can,t see why you don,t.

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There are quite alot of americans at uni and they seem really nice, though the only use of drugs at this uni i've seen is by american girls smoking cannabis. I found that odd really because my friends at leeds met and she said theres a lot of heavy drugs going around the place like cocaine and lsd. Lancaster seems quite drug free compared to her description.

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I think you just prooved they are not all very intelligent. If they have the best Universities in the world why have some come to Leeds to attend a lesser University than back home?
Or did you mean by the singular University that they only have one good one in the whole of the States?

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It did cross my mind too. The really good American universities charge an arm and a leg to attend. We have a lot of US students at Queen's in Kingston. Even paying the larger fees that Queen's charges non-Canadian students, it is still cheaper than the good US schools. And part of Queen's campus is in England. Herstmonceux Castle in Sussex is owned by Queen's. I don't have any idea of what the singular top university in America is.:confused:

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Maybe it's The Ronald McDonald University; I do believe they offer a pretigious degree in hamburgerology.

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Stop wasting your time praying about whats after death and try spening your time living.

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Ghosts - As in Spiritual Beings, Angels - Yes

Aliens - Nope

Heaven/hell - Absolutely

Telepathy - Not Sure

Telekinesis - Not Sure

De Javu or premonition's - Yes

Just an opinion from a Dumb American. And for what it's worth: There are quite a few of American Universities/Colleges that would make a list of some of the tops in the world. Massachusetts Institute of Technology ( MIT), Stanford, The Ivy League Universities (Gag me with that thought!), Johns Hopkins, William and Mary, Cal.Tech, etc.,. Much depends on what area of study one is seeking and at what level i.e. Bachelor of Science, Masters, MD, DVM, PHD etc.

Brian

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hamburgerology?:eek:


how do i apply:confused:

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Study the movie "Supersize Me." Oh, and get a prescription for Lipitor:eek:

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William and Mary is a great school. Beautiful location. I once gave a paper there on editorial problems in the letters of Samuel Richardson. But it is sort of Ivy ... at least Southern Ivy.

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Ghosts - Nope when you die you die full stop.

Aliens - There must be some other form of life out there It would be arogance of the highest order not to think so

Heaven/hell - Nope see number 1

Telepathy - Open to persuasion

Telekinesis - See above

De Javu or premonition's - Having read Nostrodamus' prophecies and believe I have experienced Deja Vu, I would say erring on the side of yes.


All the belief/religious sides of these above lead towards an oppressive side i.e. do what we say or you will suffer after you die, (a brilliant way of manipulation as nobody is going to come back and say they were wrong).

All major religions use this and refuse to answer difficult questions of them when asked, hence I am an atheist.

The others are unexplained phenomena to which I am open to persuasion, apart from the alien question which I have to say I do believe exist on a purely mathemetical theorem. Considering the number of stars, the majority of which must have planets, therefore if only 0.01% of the planets are similar to ours then life of some description must exist.

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heres the link Hamburger University

not sure how many Nobel laureates they have produced :D :D

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No laureates I'm afraid. It's not the lack of academic excellence, just the fact that most of them die from clogged arteries before they have a chance to really shine:D:D

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Maybe you could find a bookie who would give you odds:)

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application sent!

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Ghosts - As in Spiritual Beings, Angels - Yes

Aliens - Dunno - suppose there must bebeings living on other planets.

Heaven/hell - Not as such - I belive in good and evil. I belive that when we die there are different plaines to traval and on the top plane there is a god. D

Telepathy - Definatly

Telekinesis - Not Sure

De Javu or premonition's - Yes

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I don't share, but I freely admit that I could be wrong. I hope I guessed right, but the immortality thing, I just don't buy into it. I suppose I have to class myself as un unrepentant existentialist. Maybe I'll spend eternity waiting for Godot:D

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"She believed in nothing; only her skepticism kept her from being an atheist.”

Jean-Paul Sartre ;) ;)

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Was that a quote from jambutty? :rolleyes::D

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I won't waste my time believing there is a God. If I did believe in God then I would like to think of him as good. I can't see any evidence anywhere of a supreme good being watching over us. So if there is a God be can't, in my eyes be a good person (or whatever) so I will not waste my time on Him.


Does that make sense to anyone? I know its late.

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I suppose it does make sense. But in the sense that we have free will to belive in what we will. If there is a god, he/she/it may be omniscietnt, benevolent, and omnipresent. Or maybe just the prime mover of everything. Or maybe ... nothing at all. But the choice is yours; and belief is nothing if it is not personal.

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It's clear that within the God of classical theism, there is an inconsistent triangle of Omniscience, Omnibenevolence and Omnipotence. The followers of this Abrahamic God throughout the ages have claimed that their God is in fact all these things - however, as Neil touches on, it is impossible to be all three with the world as it is.
I'm not religious or atheist or agnostic. I don't wish to be labelled by either, frankly. One of the few big problems I have with religion however is it's ability to indoctrinate children with society's acceptance. To paraphrase Dawkins, labelling a child (and from then on teaching it only Christian views on religion in the curriculum) a 'Catholic child' or a 'Protestant child', is borderline child abuse. It is indoctrination pure and simple, and would make as much sense to label the child a Marxist child or a socialist child :confused:
I could go on forever but I'll stop & save it for the exams :p

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I am always willing to answer questions about my personal beliefs. It is never my desire to force my beliefs as that really is not possible or acceptable (IMO). I guess I could be "labelled" as a follower of a major religion but I truly don't believe I am.

I believe in the Bible as the Word of God. However, I despise how man has misused, misinterpreted, misapplied, so so much of this Book. Do I have all the answers or can I answer all the mysteries of the universe type questions. Nope, or better yet,"I just don't know why/how/when . . . "

Brian

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So do you live your life as the good book tells you to?

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For more on my beliefs. Here is my last correspondances with Ian. Please know, out of love for my fellow man, I merely wish to share (again share never force) what I believe. It's then purely up to each individual to make their own decision. Okay?

Cheers,

Brian

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Sorry for not being in touch for a while as typing is a nightmare Brianleft hand still useless,please keep me in your prayer's as I do require divine help at thisvery trying time, hope you are all well ,will see you when you next visit hopefully your good friend Iansorry it is short and sweet but you know why keep well my cousin aand good mate Ian.

Hey Ian,

So kind of you to write. As no one knows the will of God, my prayer first for you is to have Peace. Then to have Hope, followed by freedom of pain and healing.

My Faith has gotten me through so many difficult times. Even the very many hurtful things that I've gone through, and God didn't seem to be anywhere near, I know He was. It must be so hard for God to see all our suffering. However, He knows that it's success through those bad times that can make us stronger as we struggle through this rotten world.

When the world says that God has abandon us, I say rather we have abandon Him. He has given us access through His Son Jesus Christ. And for that I find my Peace, Hope, and ability to survive day to day.

Keep Strong my friend and keep up with that wonderful laugh of yours!

Brian

Cheer's good buddy living dayat presen,tto days message was a tonicregardis Ian.

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Gosh I try but constantly face failures. I feel another question will be coming eh Neil?

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The First World War destroyed not only millions of lives, but also the old, comforting social orders. People found themselves in a world where there was nothing much left to believe in. God took a real mauling in the conflict; not many who experienced the carnage on the Western Front, could hold on to their largely unquestioned religious beliefs. So one is stuck with lots of "isms": secularism, materialism, existentialism, communism (wich seemed merely to replace "god" with "party") national socialism (which seemed to elevate "satan") and many others one can think of. Add to this a developing science which, if it did nothing else, called into question the whole idea of "reality" and "fact."

When the props are gone, a convenient way ... maybe the only one ... out of the uncertainty is to believe strongly in something. There doesn't seem to be much, other than belief, keeping a lid on insanity and chaos. A quick glance at any major newspaper will show that the lid is not on all that tightly.

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How to upset an evilgelical , was at the local grocery store today , parked in the next slot was a big ass Hummer SUV. belonging to a fish person ,on the rear window was a sticker saying " powered by Jesus" , the owner happened to be loading his stuff at the same time as me and I casually commented that maybe his sticker should read " Powered by stolen muslim oil" ,

sorry for the thread wander ;) ;)

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Or "Drive Green for Jesus":D

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can u beleive in something and not beleive in it at the same time
cos thats me i think i beleive in ghosts and stuff but then again i dont. lol
does that make any sence

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I'm with Neil on the first three but,

Telepathy, why not? Perhaps a form of internal broadcast system, try to explain radio and t.v. to someone from 200 years ago that would have been an impossible idea back then. I might just be broadcasting away at this moment but I doubt that I'm on the same frequency as the rest of you so who is capable of listening? (or would want to?).

Telekinesis, definitly I manage to move plenty of liquids from one place to another without any physical effort.

De Javu, isn't that the feeling that you've seen this before? I usually get it when I'm watching freeview.

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Well we know where your coming from with that Less