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what happened?

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me 2 :(

if anyone has her on msn can they please tell her we want her to come back? Im sure whatever it is can be sorted.

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Have I missed something Jen, if you do leave my best to both you and Duncan xx

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Was I asleep?? Didn't see anything untoward:confused:

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That is a waste of a very intelligent and witty person.
I think the games that are being played are disgusting and out of order.
I sincerely hope the Moderators dig out the responsible person and ban them.
Come back Jen and use my favourite expression...........Sod Off

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Its very rare i agree with you royboy...... but atm i do... come back Jen!!!

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I have no idea whats been going on, spending too much time in the arcade these days, only met you a couple of times Jen but your a lovely person who brings wit and humour to this site, it will be a great loss.

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eh?

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Only know shillelagh from this forum.... I've never known her to post anything that could be seen as offensive. strange things going on.. (best get Mullder n Scully on the job)

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No you never will........... but just recently, we seem to have a coven of little witches.... that seem to find it funny to dish the dirt on anyone that post something worth reading...... Accyweb needs to get a grip!!

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Agree !!!!!!
With any luck she will come back when she calms down , but something really does need to be done by the mods to sort all this sh.. stirring out and also the ring leaders too.:mad:

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I cant believe that anything Jen has said could be taken as offensive and needed reporting.
This is getting ridiculous now....

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I've not been on much today......what's happened? :confused:

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Nobody knows:(

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Wow i know Jenn and i also know she wouldnt utter a wrong word about anyone.

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I had a long kip this evening so missed it too.
I have never seen Jen post anything offensive
She must be really angry - she will miss us as much as we will miss her.

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Aww bless
this place can be a bit over the top sometimes
i only hope the mods have looked at things fairly :(

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we want a poll. free the shellilagh 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well I'm gobsmacked, isn't she Accyweb's angel??? :D come on Jen, don't let the beggers get to ya, you're tougher than that, otherwise the idiots have won!!!!!!!!!!!:(

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I agree HR, slinky, dont you have shillelagh's e-mail addy? tell her she cant just ****** off without letting us know why!!! and if somebody has been trying to get her back up, she will have let them make her pay the ultimate price, life without accyweb! :(

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BLIDDY HECK whats happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( Not seen Jen post anything nasty

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has anyone spoke to Jen at all? i'm gobsmacked :eek:

maybe a mod could enlighten us

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Have just seen this thread and like everyone else seem to have missed whats gone on (i had an early night, boys have been getting me up early recently) Must admit Im quite shocked, ive never seen her post anything offensive

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I didn´t notice anything either and I was on here quite a bit yesterday. Come back Jen, I´ll miss you too xxx

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Please don't go Shillelagh .. have only got two friends in my profile, you are one of them; would only be left with one ...:(

Whatever upset you Jen, you are well liked on here, good fun, helpful, generous, cheeky wit, etc., etc. No, you must not leave us. !!

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I have spoken to jen and she is very upset because she feels she has been unfairly treated on here.
I dont quite know myself what posts but apparently a lot of her posts have been demoted to the dump of late when she can clearly see that othr individuals post are staying put, This has made her feel that there maybe a little favouritism and the site is being unfairly moderated .

Apparently she posted something which was meant to be fun and along with many of her posts it were deleted,

I dont know too much about the posts as I didnt read them all I know is that she is very upset.

Jen is not a vicious person and no way would she post offensively . But there are many on here that do and get away with it so I can see her point.

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dont know what the score is, but if some saddos constantly reporting posts from good people, lets be knowing who? think this should be sorted on the quiet by the mods, cos if its the case- it aint on.:mad:

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As I said before (and this is not a dig at the mods) if posts are being deleted purely because they are reported then that is wrong in my opinion as this could be open for abuse by people who have an issue with any particular person, they should only be deleted if breaking forum rules.

Please can a mod clarify what happens when a post is reported, is it automatically deleted or is it read and decision made to delete or not??

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Im pretty sure they read them first.. i reported a post not long ago and it wasnt deleted.

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I reported a link which I felt wasn't appropriate but received a reply that it was being allowed to remain as it had been posted once before and no-one had reported that.

I am also absolutely stunned that anything Jen could have said would have caused offence. I've only ever known her to post light hearted digs which are fun. I have seen things posted by other people which are personal snipes at other members and yet they have been permitted to remain, possibly because the member who has been insulted has not felt the desire to report them.

I wish I knew what it was that someone has taken offense at and why. Perhaps it could be cleared up if it can be shown that they have misread or misinterpreted what was said.

Other people have left in the past over similar actions where they felt they had done nothing wrong and yet others who have caused trouble are still here. I find this very sad. Jen you will be missed. :(

I have only ever walked away permanently from two forums, one where I was unable to fulfill my moderating duties for several weeks due to a series of bereavements one after the other which left me feeling very little desire to be online at all and subsequently I felt almost further bereaved when having let the admin down I was removed from the staff. I just felt too sad to go back there again. The other where I was being hounded by my very own personal troll who even went to the trouble of joining AccyWeb under a different name in order to stalk me. Thankfully the mods here dealt with him but on the other forum he was allowed to stay despite having broken more than a few rules there. Some people really do need to get a life. If the latter has happened to Shillelagh on here I really do hope it can be sorted out and that she will come back. She's been an integral part of AccyWeb for so long. We will miss you Jen. :(

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How sad, hope it all gets sorted soon and she feels she can come back.......:rolleyes:

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i agree wholeheartedly with you willow. there are certain (3 at most) members who are allowed to say what & how they want too on here .......i for 1 don't come on here because of them & the petty mindedness that goes on..on here its time certain mods opened thier eyes to the unrest that is now accyweb.


MOST UNFAIR ON JEN .

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i would also love to know the protocol because i have had posts and threads i have started removed that have not broke the rules and have had nothing but good replies then all of a sudden its gone

it seems to me there is a small few here who have nothing better to do than moan and insist that anything they disagree with to be deleted and they get what they want either because they are a long time member or friends of a mod

i have seen people be abusive , threatening and down right spitefull to other people and still remian members never mind get their posts removed infact one long standing member was forced to leave the site because of a barrarge of threats made by 2 members who decided it would be fun and who had a personal grudge against the member who was forced to leave yet they still remain members

no wonder people are leaving when their is such apparence of favouritism

this isnt a dig at all the mods becase lately i have had to use their help and the ones i have contacted have been very helpfull but from the outside when you see people getting away with half the stuff they do on here then people getting jumped on for trivial matters it does look like favouritism

if anyone is threatening or abusive to another member they should be gone wether the abuse is directed at a new member or at a pain in the bum like jambutty ( soz pal ;) )

i look forward to not seeing this post anytime in the near future

peace :D

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O.K. I'm as surprised as the rest of you about her announcement, but until we know exactly what or whom has upset her, can we try to avoid the speculation of, favouritism, stalkers, etc.

Come back shillelagh, you will be missed by your friends and if no-one knows why you left how can it be corrected?

:(

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i have never reported a post (spammers excepted) in over 3 yrs on here, think its a bit sad when faceless turds report stuff fer nowt, only their twisted satisfaction. after all its only cyberspace, some need to get a life. can understand people reporting if they are threatened, then thats fair enough, but most of these people seem to be sad,dim,*******.:rolleyes:

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I can't think of any long standing members that have left!! :confused:

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well i aint the only person who thinks its going on so somthing isnt right when plenty are noticing it


unless were all imagining it of course

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Human nature to speculate before the facts Less. Bet everyone has checked their Outward Express inbox to view the notification of posts from our Shillelagh . I know I have, couldn't find owt though.

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Can't you? Odd. I'd have though one at least would be especially missed. :(


I've only reported things when they seem to me to breach the forum rules with problematic links, or spam or something like that.

I don't get any. I stopped it because I was being flooded out!

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exactly, agree with both comments, but then you got a life willow.;)

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yeah I can now!!! :o

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I’ve just had a look through her removed posts and I can't find anything that would suggest favouritism.

Her posts that had been removed were part of a whole load of off topic comments and as such, all were removed. I’m sure you would agree, it would have looked silly if we had removed everyone else’s off topic posts and just left shillelaghs. Just because a post or two goes missing, doesn’t mean it was bad, offensive etc

There’s nothing personal in the actions we take. If some one reports something then we’ll look into it and if we agree then we’ll do something. We do what we have to and if members take that the wrong way, then what can we do?

Another problem we have is that, we can’t be here all the time and if members don’t report, then what do you expect? No point in waiting months and months for opportunities like this and saying “its time certain mods opened their eyes to the unrest that is now accyweb” - instead, report it as its happening.

Chances are, there will be always unrest ‘due to the nature of the forums’, there will always be differences of opinions etc – and what members get up to in their private life’s ‘offline’ has nothing to do with accyweb. As long as everyone is happy ‘we can judge this by the amount of reports we get or lack of’ then everything is fine.

I agree, it’s a shames that she’s chosen to go because she has been a big help to us in the past. She’s not one of these that sit there and waits, she gets stuck in and acts and many thanks for that, you will be missed.

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so none of her posts where reported then Len? they where just removed because they where with others that where off topic?

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I do hope that is a mistake :eek:

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i agree but why are people who are thratening,abusive and intimidating other members on this site still allowed to continue been here and not prevented from rejoining by contacting their isp and reporting them

if somone has a personal problem with somone in the real world then yes i agree it isnt accywebs problem but when that person uses this site to persue a personal vendetta then dosnt that part warrant the permament removal of the offender especialy when its more than the once?

dont get me wrong len you have been helpfull t me but if i sent you pms and karma comments saying i was going to come to your home and kill you then im pretty sure i would be banned for good

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I totally agree with that. Never happened to me personally ( although it could have done but I'm too thick skinned for the numpties to bother me :)) But I have seen it happen!! and something should be done abut it.

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dont get me wrong i can get snotty with people but iv never threatened anyone

mostly i take the mick :)

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I bet we've all been cheesed off with the site in the past.

I had two thread deleted in a weekend, and got told off, or that's what it felt like. The fact is I shouldn't have made those threads, but should have pm'd the moderators with what I saw as a problem. The moderators sent me a message, explaining why they'd been removed, and I could accept their point.

I'd hate to be a moderator. I think it is a fairly thankless task. On the whole I think they do a very good job as far as I can see. They try to be fair, and impartial, in my opinion. I'm sure mistakes do happen, but that's human nature, and like the rest of us, the mods are human. As Len said, they physically can't be on here 24/7, and rely on members to draw their attention to any problems that may arise.

If you read this Jen, I hope you do come back, because you'll be sorely missed. Your posts are informative, fun, and most of all genuine. All the things you are yourself.

Please think about it, and hopefully you'll be back posting soon.

If you honestly think you're being treated unfairly, leaving is giving in, and knowing you like I do, I know you're a fighter for what you believe, so bloomin' well stand your ground girl.

G xx

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The who’s online page is handy but just because you can see someone reporting a post/ thread doesn’t necessarily mean they are complaining.

The report button is a link to the moderator’s forum whereas members can ask questions, offer advice or even report bad content of any particular thread/ post.

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Yes it was and I've fixed it. :D

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Presumably thread wanders are acted on by being reported rather than the mods spotting them ?

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thanks for answering my question Len..

Right Jen now get your back side back on here missus!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

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Most threads veer slightly off topic, just like real conversations do.

If I see it I'll report spam or bad language, but who on earth would be so petty as to report someone for going off topic in a thread about something so insignificant as karma?:confused:

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I don’t want to go on about this all night ‘there are too many if’s and but’s etc’

If possible we do split threads, but most of the time posts are so intertwined ‘with all the quoting’ that it’s not really possible and it would mean having to edit every affected post and that probably would cause more upset.

Notifying everyone that there off topic posts have been removed could take ages and I don’t know how much spare time you have but on occasions I don’t have much. Besides, common sense would tell you why your post has been removed. If you know the rules and take the chance then don’t complain if or when your post/ thread disappears.

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len i know why my posts get deleted when you delete them because you pm me the reason why

granted most of the time with my posts its a matter of "when" and not "if" they get deleted lol

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:o i was only asking :o i never mentioned anything about the who's online thing :o

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No worries. I got the feeling you had something up our sleeve because the answer to your question had 'more or less' already been mentioned.
Hope I didn’t spoil it for you. :p

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Are you sharing flashy's Jumpers these days too>> :D:D:D

Oh Len... your typing today is cracking me up big time.:hidewall:

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Slap!
:p

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If someone has decided to leave the forum, why do they always feel the need to start a mardy thread? That question is rhetorical by the way. ;)

Looks like yet another storm in a teacup.

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Well I've just noticed one of my posts has been removed and I have absolutely no idea why because I don't even know which post was removed. I'm only aware of it because I've just noticed that my rep power changed so I check my profile to see who had given me karma and why and I found two - one in this thread and one which no longer exists and I have no idea what it could have been about - but somebody agreed with me anyway so presumably it had more point to it that a mere thread wander! :D

I can understand people feeling 'what's the point?' when things which have caused no offence and have not hurt anyone have been removed.

I presume to have attracted karma my post must have had some 'meat' to it and perhaps did offend someone but even so I have no idea why it was deleted and probably never will as I have not been told. I am not aware of having said anything intentionally offensive so I'm feeling as confused as Jen now. :confused:

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Willow, I have read all your post in this thread... and I'm as baffled as you... because I can't see any reason for any of your post being deleted either :confused:
The mind really does boggle at the moment as to what is going on!!

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Ah sorry willow I thought you meant this one!! because I for one can't see why anything of what you posted in here could warrant being deleted.

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It must be fairly serious for Jen to go in this way. I've pm'd and she's not replied which is also not like her.

I do understand why people leave - I did myself once because two people had started a thread that was agressive and upsetting against me for no reason. It upset me a lot at the time but after I made the decision to return I also made the decision to walk away from any threads that I didn't like or that were having a go at me.

I hope you come back soon, hun.

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Willow, I suspect that the posts that you had deleted were in a thread that you had re- start about cousins and as I had told you, I had created a new thread using copies of the original posts.
Having created the new thread I then removed the originals’ which meant deleting your original thread’. I wasn’t aware of any karma that you had received for that thread. Perhaps we should also add this to the list of things that what we should be doing.

To be honest though, we could have sorted this via pm.

I wish everyone would stop looking for fault and just get on with it.

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in answer to yer question- sad,pathetic, lonely,little wimps, would report someone fer going off topic.;)

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I agree....sometimes going off topic makes the thread more interesting.

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Lol, there have been a few of those.

I'll mention no names, because those people have since happily returned.

I didn't start a thread about leaving, but the weekend I had two threads deleted, I did huffily tell everyone in the chatroom, including Roy, that I was leaving the site forever.

I lasted just over twenty minutes.:D

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Get a haircut :tongueout

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Off topic? What is wrong with that? I've been involved in conversations (in real life) that have gone from, for example, Mao Tse Tung to the merits of Chocolate Hob-Nobs quite naturally. Sorry, moderators, but if you delete posts simply because someone complains they are "off topic" you are denying the vagaries of normal conversation.

This is Accyweb not the Oxford Union. People come on this forum to talk to each other, exchange views and "chew the fat". Sometimes they stray from the original theme - that's life. Common sense should prevail.

Incidentally I have never reported a post and I never will. Having said all that - it's only a website, for God's sake, I sometimes think it takes too much precedence in some people's lives.

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One was the rude banana smilies, the other I can't remember.:o

Both should have been pm's, not threads though.

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Well for a start, in the general Chat forums nobody really wants to have to wade through a whole load of off topic chats just to be able to read what somebody else thinks about a particular subject and believe me, we have had many complaints about this in the past and now we are receiving the opposite.
In the anything goes forums, this isn’t really problem, so you can hijack all you like, but if someone complains ‘maybe the thread starter’ then we’ll even clean that up.

It’s all well and good going off topic in real life discussions because fresh air is free and once said, it’s gone but here at accyweb some poor sod is having to pay to have all the off topic chats saved.
If push ever came to shove ‘god forbid’ and Roy couldn’t afford a bigger sever then he has always the option of wiping out the anything goes forums which would in effect give us more server space thus allowing him to keep the decent serious discussion forums for everyone to enjoy. So if you want to have a wily nily chit chat then please use the chatroom, that’s why it’s there.

Out of curiosity, how many posts does everyone thing we should let the off topic chats go on for? 5,10, 50, 100 posts and what happens when we reach that limit? Should we remove all posts above that limit or should we delete the lot 'and then have everyone complain'? Better to nip it in the bud before things get out of hand but to do that, we need everyone’s help.

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I must say that being a Mod sounds like hard work in that you can sort out one problem for 1 person and then someone else will complain that you haven't helped them but at the end of the day this chat about deleting posts is a thread wander within the topic of why Jen has left :(

I'm not complaning tho as it is something that has lead to someone leaving :( :(

I like Jens' in put and will miss her postings and just hope that she will rejoin sooner rather than later

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Sorry willow, didn’t mean that to happen. I am probably totally wrong and maybe I shouldn’t have said anything, Roy is probably a multi millionaire and I was presuming that one day that push may come to shove. Best person to ask is Roy.

See this thread.

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yeh aint kidding its as clear as mud.:eek:summats not right here i'm gonna take a break meself.:(

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2 good members down!!!

any more?? :(


:rolleyes:

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People are entitled to take a break, leave, whatever.

Personally I'm staying, as I think it's a good forum, and by leaving it just means you don't have a voice, yet those who demand attention still retain one.

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It will be a sad loss, if Jen dosent come back ,Its never been the same without Tinks, and now Jens going too...:psad::foryou:

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I don't really care if my posts/threads are deleted. I come here for fun and I wont die if a few off thread or iffy posts disappear. To be honest I don't even think I would notice if my posts had been deleted. I have had pm's telling me I have had things removed but I bet a damn site more have gone without me noticing.

I don't for one minute think anything funny is going on with our mods.
If people think there is and feel they need to leave then thats up to them.

I see rule bending all the time and think the mods are very sensible about what they do and do not allow.

(except for one person who needed banning ages ago :) )

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willow i may have given it you because of the cousins thing, i couldnt for the life in me think which thread you where asking me to remember till slinks mentioned it :D;)

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I think the Mods do a fine job and it can't be easy. You go away for an hour, come back and some threads have wandered all over the place - I'd hate to have to wade through them all and untangle them so well done chaps.

I have complained in the past about posts - mostly spam but a few that I have thought were overly abusive or agressive (not necessarily directed to me either). I've done this because if i were a mod I would have deleted them so I'm bringing them to the Mods attention - if they choose not to delete them i wouldn't lose sleep.

Sometimes threads do get out of hand with one or more getting abusive or angry to each other and in my opinion, I think some of them should be nipped in the bud much sooner then they won't get completely out of hand and people won't feel the need to leave. Perhaps, we should stop being afraid to use the report button and instead of wading into the thread to help a mate which let's face it, usually makes things worse, just report it and walk away. Some people thrive on arguments and it completely stop them if no one bothered to actually take them on!

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Like the Karma thread if we delete a post for some reason and another member has quoted that post it has to be edited or deleted as well .
with all the quoting going on which really is not needed as the post is there anyway it makes it hard to edit threads and delete individual posts.
also if we have to do what Len says a mass delete of off topic posts that have gone way off thread then there is no way we are sitting here sending pm's out to every member to explain why.
it would just take too much time.
if its just the odd post then i tend to pm the person and explain but not every time.
so if your posting in a thread that has gone way off thread and you know it has then be prepared for the post to be deleted with any other off thread posts without a pm.
or your post edited if you quoted an off thread post

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There is a world of difference between a wandering thread and an abusive or unpleasant interlude. Of course personal abuse should be reported/deleted but a natural digression in a thread is just that - natural. From what I have seen in 99% of cases the thread either returns to it's original theme or dies off.

In common with a few others it wouldn't be the end of my world if a post of mine were deleted. Come to think of it - it may have happened - it certainly once did on another website I haunt (I was naughty and used too many asterisks. I thought what I said was light-hearted but their mods thought it was too.....rude. :D) Can I say this again without upsetting you (or being deleted)? It's only a bl**dy website. :rolleyes:

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Disgraceful :eek:

Gonna tell over you now :p

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Thanks for the report Lancsdave will look into it later:D

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I am very disappointed that West Enders post has remained with the * trying to get around the swear filter system.

I also see no need for you poor attempt of humour over the mater. I expect you will be removing your own post and pm'ing yourself as to why. :p

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Why are you bringing Mick's mother into this? ;)

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Personally I think the thread that seems to have caused all this upset, Jambutty's karma moaning thread, shouldn't have been in General Chat in the first place, but in Feedback and Suggestions, or Anything Goes.

I think I'll go and report it.:D

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The phrase 'mountains and molehills' springs to mind.
And if we are supposed to be a friendly forum...well, you can easily see how wars break out can't you?

I'm really sorry that Jen felt unable to sort it out, and like many others I will miss her on the forum. I hope her absence is temporary, and that she gets withdrawal symptoms soon.

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My last post got deleted, folks. I posted a completely meaningless set of asterisks (to represent an non-existant word - you couldn't even have conjured one in relation to the text) and it was judged inadmissable. :D

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Nice to see the "big boys karma "posting here.. nice to see ya nice.