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Mancie 22-06-2010 02:55

Fox Hunting
 
Not long to go now for you Tory lads n lassies..get them silly hats out the cupboard.. just in time for the hunting season .. it would be funny but what do you expect from this lot?

"A free vote on scrapping the hunting ban will still go ahead despite opposition from many Lib Dem MPs, it emerged last night.
A delay would have disappoint hunt supporters, many of whom campaigned for a Tory victory hoping the ban would be lifted in time for this year's season, which starts in the Autumn."

Many campaigned for a Tory victory simply to go hunting foxes?.. what sort of country do these people have in store when fox hunting is upmost in there minds..I would have thought there could be more pressing needs. :confused:

DaveinGermany 22-06-2010 09:30

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And the serfs can once more act as stewards & wardens of the estates, masters of the hounds, Kennel Maids & Lads, fetchers & carriers, stable Lads & Lasses, work in the local hotels & hostelries, shall I go on ?

You may not like the folk whose birthright sets them to doing such things, but it benefits many in the local community & not just the Toffs & the Lord & his scions. It is tradition & it's a truly British institute whether you agree with it or not, that is for every individual to decide for themselves.

But as an argument against class & by extension perceived political views & tendencies it really doesn't hold much credence, as "The Hunt" benefits all social & political classes.

Mancie 22-06-2010 10:08

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I'm saying that this mob insist their job is to cut the defiect.. but then half the tosspots in rural areas who voted for them are only interested in fox hunting.. it a joke but not funny...

DaveinGermany 22-06-2010 10:11

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Ah, normal service is resumed, welcome back Mancie :) And theres me sticking up for you & all ............. Oh well, Leopards & spots :D :D

Mancie 22-06-2010 10:13

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 823736)
Ah, normal service is resumed, welcome back Mancie :) And theres me sticking up for you & all ............. Oh well, Leopards & spots :D :D

Yeah nice one Dave.. good lad :rolleyes:

jaysay 22-06-2010 10:20

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 823734)
I'm saying that this mob insist their job is to cut the defiect.. but then half the tosspots in rural areas who voted for them are only interested in fox hunting.. it a joke but not funny...

I'm sure Kate Hoey totally agrees with you Mancie:D

Mancie 22-06-2010 10:25

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 823739)
I'm sure Kate Hoey totally agrees with you Mancie:D

Kate Hoey ain't a member of Accy Web.. what do you..as a Tory .think about the clamour from your party to bring back fox hunting as a priorty?.. I'm asking you because you seem to be the only Tory left on here.. the other two buggered off in June .:D

jaysay 22-06-2010 10:43

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 823741)
Kate Hoey ain't a member of Accy Web.. what do you..as a Tory .think about the clamour from your party to bring back fox hunting as a priorty?.. I'm asking you because you seem to be the only Tory left on here.. the other two buggered off in June .:D

Never heard anything about fox hunting not even in the Holy Bible (Mail:D)think you must be reading the Morning Star to much Mancie:D

Mancie 22-06-2010 10:49

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 823746)
Never heard anything about fox hunting not even in the Holy Bible (Mail:D)think you must be reading the Morning Star to much Mancie:D

you never heard of it?.. maybe you got your blue tinted glasses on...
David Cameron has made clear that if he becomes prime minister he will offer a free vote in government time for repeal of the four-year-old hunting ban.

Tories get ready for a repeal of foxhunting ban - Times Online

jaysay 22-06-2010 10:52

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 823749)
you never heard of it?.. maybe you got your blue tinted glasses on...
David Cameron, the Leader of the Opposition, has made clear that if he becomes prime minister he will offer a free vote in government time for repeal of the four-year-old hunting ban.

Tories get ready for a repeal of foxhunting ban - Times Online

Don't read the Times you have to pay for it now on line and being a Tory I'm very cost conscious Mancie:D

Retlaw 22-06-2010 11:06

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Foxes are a dammed nuisance in the countryside, I went fox hunting years ago, but not with the toffs as you call them but with a shotgun.
If your living depended on livestock, you would hate them as well, they have few natural predators, and now they have spread into urban area's. They don't just kill for the food they need, they kill all,
they can decimate a hen coop in one raid.
Your as fanatical as an anachist bomber, just unreasonable bigotry.

Retlaw

Mancie 22-06-2010 11:09

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What wrong has this geezer done to you?.. come on girls back me up



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MargaretR 22-06-2010 11:19

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A gunshot death is more humane than being ripped apart by a pack of dogs.
(That is if you consider them a threat to livestock when their numbers increase).
The toffs must be sadistic sods to want to watch such a death.

Neil 22-06-2010 12:09

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 823755)
What wrong has this geezer done to you?.. come on girls back me up

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...-art-slack.jpg

A fox managed to get into one of the animal enclosures in the park around Christmas 2008. It killed every chicken and a rabbit and took none of them away to eat.

Yes they look cute but they are vermin and need to be controlled. Not with a pack of dogs but with guns to be humane.

Retlaw 22-06-2010 15:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 823755)
What wrong has this geezer done to you?.. come on girls back me up



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...-art-slack.jpg

It might look cute, but its a nasty evil killer.
You keep rabbiting on about the suffering to the fox, which is rubbish, its vermin just like rats.
What about the suffering of the foxes prey, and the trauma they go through, the fox gets its just desserts when its hunted, any way the master of the hounds carries a humane killer and shoots the dammed thing.
Next think you'l be protesting about the town council putting poison down to kill rats.
Retlaw.

jaysay 23-06-2010 10:11

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 823762)
A fox managed to get into one of the animal enclosures in the park around Christmas 2008. It killed every chicken and a rabbit and took none of them away to eat.

Yes they look cute but they are vermin and need to be controlled. Not with a pack of dogs but with guns to be humane.

I saw exactly the same thing many years ago at Fields Farm at the Top of Hawthorn Avenue, when it was still out in the fields, a fox killed every hen it the coup about 45 and didn't take one for food, evil little gits

Barrie Yates 23-06-2010 10:37

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Wasn't it a fox that savaged two young children in their cots only last week? They are vermin, can carry diseases, and are vicious ruthless killers of livestock.

jaysay 23-06-2010 10:48

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 823875)
Wasn't it a fox that savaged two young children in their cots only last week? They are vermin, can carry diseases, and are vicious ruthless killers of livestock.

Ya but Mancie loves um:rolleyes:

MargaretR 23-06-2010 11:33

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This is not a debate on whether or not they should be culled, but HOW it is done.

I don't consider hunting with hounds as a humane method of culling.

Neil 23-06-2010 11:37

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 823895)
I don't consider hunting with hounds as a humane method of culling.

I don't either. They should be shot.

Retlaw 23-06-2010 11:44

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 823895)
This is not a debate on whether or not they should be culled, but HOW it is done.

I don't consider hunting with hounds as a humane method of culling.

Just one thing Margaret, with the firearms laws the way they are at present, the shooting of foxes is difficult. To own a shotgun now you must have a specific area to shoot in, and foxes can roam over quite an area. When I was younger you could take your shotgun practically anywhere, the farmers would welcome you if you said your after foxes,
now its all changed, some paranoid clown would ring 999 and the kevlar cowboys would have a day out.

Retlaw

Barrie Yates 23-06-2010 16:53

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 823902)
Just one thing Margaret, with the firearms laws the way they are at present, the shooting of foxes is difficult. To own a shotgun now you must have a specific area to shoot in, and foxes can roam over quite an area. When I was younger you could take your shotgun practically anywhere, the farmers would welcome you if you said your after foxes,
now its all changed, some paranoid clown would ring 999 and the kevlar cowboys would have a day out.

Retlaw

Totally agree, Whilst i do not agree with hunting on horseback with hounds, I also disagree with the gun laws in UK which were a knee jerk reaction by a government that looked for an easy way out.
So cull them by gunshots but who is going to shoot the guns. Perhaps poison bait - the manner in which they managed to almost eradicate rabies amongst foxes in Europe.
Whichever way one chooses there are going to be protesters, but foxes are a pest and the problem is growing.

DaveinGermany 23-06-2010 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 823895)
This is not a debate on whether or not they should be culled, but HOW it is done.

I don't consider hunting with hounds as a humane method of culling.

Actually Marge the thread was Mancie once again flexing his Socialist/labour class apartheid, but it has wandered into a debate about Foxes, their habits & actions & the values of culling said pest. :)

I must admit to noticing a marked decrease in Fox numbers in our area where once they were quite abundant. To the best of my knowledge they've not ventured into town & when seen are out in the wilds.

The Germans shoot them when they become a nuisance & a set amount are also shot just to keep numbers under control, should too many be culled the balance then tips in favour of other vermin, Mice,Rats & Rabbits, so it is a fine balancing act controlled by the foresters in conjunction with hunters.

As to Barries point about poison bait, that's a definite nono ! Here there is to much other wildlife & peoples pets who could take the bait put out, which would lead to an unholy row. The only bait they put out treated is that which is used to curb & control rabies, round here isn't so bad but there are certain areas which are regularly controlled.


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