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Margaret Pilkington 25-04-2010 12:29

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unplugging the phone is a nice idea, but for some people it really isn't a viable option.
I have to leave my phone plugged in, as my mother may need me at any time, I also need to be available should she activate her lifeline.
TPS does not weed out all the calls, I know this from my own experience, but recently when I have received these types of call I have asked who is calling and then cited the Information Commissioners Office......this has meant a speedy end to the call......and a promise not to contact me again in the future.
If I find that a company does call again, then I will have no hesitation in contacting the ICO.

derekgas 31-05-2010 18:51

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I have been having more fun than usual with these of late. Apparently, Mori type polls for research are exempt from tps rules, you can however request they remove you from their database, trouble is, if you do, it seems to me that they may then pass your details on to a third party (maybe a partner company), because after being harassed all week from a number which didnt speak when I answered (automated calls, but no operative available when the call is answered, so your left in silence), I requested my info be removed, and what do you know? I have been pestered by a different number daily, since I sent the request, so have now requested that they remove my details, and do not pass them on to a third party! Will see what happens.

Margaret Pilkington 31-05-2010 19:55

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Derek, please mention the Information commisioners Office. These silent calls are illegal.

garinda 01-06-2010 00:42

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I've had my number listed withg the T.P.S. for ages too, and it's worked really well, until of late.

I've been receiving two to three calls per day recently, offering I don't know what.

Mostly I use the answerphone to screen out the calls, but occasionally it's easy to forget, particularly at certain times of the day when I'm expecting calls.

Recent retorts have been 'No, he's dead', or to just put the phone next to the radio, and see how long they'll pay to listen to Radio 2.

When starting politely with my 'I'm sorry, I don't take any unsolicited calls', I was recently told to 'Hang on, and let me speak mister', I did lose it rather, and resorted to some good old fashioned expletives, before cutting her off.

derekgas 01-06-2010 08:37

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Most of the sales people are quite rude nowadays, you hardly get to say 'no' and they just hang up!!No goodbye, or anything, anyone would think we were hassling them!

jaysay 01-06-2010 09:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 819401)
I've had my number listed with the T.P.S. for ages too, and it's worked really well, until of late.

I've been receiving two to three calls per day recently, offering I don't know what.

Mostly I use the answerphone to screen out the calls, but occasionally it's easy to forget, particularly at certain times of the day when I'm expecting calls.

Recent retorts have been 'No, he's dead', or to just put the phone next to the radio, and see how long they'll pay to listen to Radio 2.

When starting politely with my 'I'm sorry, I don't take any unsolicited calls', I was recently told to 'Hang on, and let me speak mister', I did lose it rather, and resorted to some good old fashioned expletives, before cutting her off.

My experiences too G they seem to be building up again, I've actually resorted to Tap Room language on a number of occasions of late, seems this message does get through:rolleyes:

jaysay 01-06-2010 09:29

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 819409)
Most of the sales people are quite rude nowadays, you hardly get to say 'no' and they just hang up!!No goodbye, or anything, anyone would think we were hassling them!

Exactly derek, I often use the line, you should not be calling me, then the line goes dead, happen as well before the expletive deletives come out:D

Bob97531 01-06-2010 14:37

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Try this....

YouTube - Prank Call-Murder Scene

jaysay 01-06-2010 14:55

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Originally Posted by Bob97531 (Post 819474)

Absolutely marvelous Bob, now you have given me ideas:D

jaysay 01-06-2010 15:17

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Repeat silent calls from firms to be banned by Ofcom | Mail Online
This might help somewhat but we'll have to wait and see

garinda 01-06-2010 16:46

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'There appears to be a limited benefit to the customers of the Telephone Preference Service when they have only prosecuted five offending companies over the past four years.'
PR Fire | Telecommunications >> TPS - A Better Way to Beat the Bother

Five prosecutions, in four years?

Wow.

Well done.

Very tough deterrent.

Margaret Pilkington 01-06-2010 17:32

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G.......You know how I feel about unsolicited calls.......I hate them with a passion.
I have been on the TPS list for a number of years.......these days when i get an unsolicited call, I ask the caller if they have permission to call my number, and before they can answer, I tell them that their call is illegal and that they are risking a £5000 fine by calling me.........sometimes they just disconnect the call, other times I get enough time to ask them to remove my number from their calling list, I tell them that if they call again, I will contact the Commissioner of Information with their details.

Himself tells me that I am rude, and that these people are only doing their job.
I tell him that if they can't take the heat, then they should stop cooking.

oliver93 01-06-2010 18:43

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I saw that murder thing ages ago, always wanted to try it XD

Romps 01-06-2010 19:05

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I am polite and say, 'No thank you, I am not interested'. If they continue to push the issue, I promptly tell them to 'Get a Proper job'!!

Romps 01-06-2010 19:24

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oh joy I just had one!!!

Margaret Pilkington 01-06-2010 19:42

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Me too......Tina, with an asian accent(?).
I asked if she had permission to call this number and the line went dead......hooray!

cashman 01-06-2010 21:19

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i have recently resorted to walking into the next room, leaving the phone off the hook behind me, which is fine, until the sodding thing starts whistling, but the first thing i do before that is say - Can you hang on a sec.:D

garinda 01-06-2010 23:36

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So because these calls are made from outside the country, they can't be prosecuted?

Cool.

Let's get dialing.

Indian Yellow Pages - Telephone Directories - Indiacom Limited

SPUGGIE J 02-06-2010 05:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 819607)
So because these calls are made from outside the country, they can't be prosecuted?

Cool.

Let's get dialing.

Indian Yellow Pages - Telephone Directories - Indiacom Limited

Oh nice now I can be as abusive to them as I want. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

All i need is a quick lesson on how to be rude in their own lingo n I will be sorted.

Hate all these kinds of calls.

jaysay 02-06-2010 09:21

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 819616)
Oh nice now I can be as abusive to them as I want. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

All i need is a quick lesson on how to be rude in their own lingo n I will be sorted.

Hate all these kinds of calls.

Just shout Jiggy Jiggy down the phone SPUGs they'll get the message:D

Miaowzinzara 09-10-2010 20:14

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google 'who calls me' its good to find out exactly who is calling you and you can get lots of info about the comapny and how to deal with them.

Margaret Pilkington 09-10-2010 21:17

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I ask the caller the name of their company...then I tell them I am going to contact the Commissioner of Informations' Office....the usual response is 'click' and a dead line.

Miaowzinzara 10-10-2010 18:39

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or you could just get them to hang on a minute... put the phone down on the side and go off and do something else instead leaving them waiting lol

Margaret Pilkington 10-10-2010 19:34

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Oh, I have done that and a few other things too.......some of them quite nasty.
But I have found that citing the CIO, brings the conversation to an abrupt halt.
I try to get the name of the company ringing me first though.......they know that they can be fined up to £5000 and that these unsolicited calls are illegal.

jaysay 11-10-2010 09:04

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Had a cracker the other day, a young lady from er um India, rang to say she could solve all my debt problems for me, so I let her carry on with her scripted spiel, when she'd finished I just said I don't think you can help me, oh yes I can (we are now in pantomime mode) oh no you can't, why would you say that, quite simples really don't have any Debt, good afternoon:D

Gremlin 11-10-2010 18:52

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Similar thing here jaysay. The girl started going on about debt and I told her "Sorry I don't lend money to people I don't know" she laughed and hung up.
An alarm system company in Morecambe had the same number as me years ago apart from the code which is 0524. I got woken many times with the police ringing me up to reset an alarm or something or other. One night I told the police lady who had rung three times in 5 minutes to clear off as I was trying to break into a safe and she was holding me up. On the fourth attempt I explained her mistake and she realized she had dialled 0254. I think in those days the codes didn't have the 1 after the 0.
It doesn't happen now, either crime has stopped in Morecambe or the alarm company has gone bust because everybody rang me instead of them.

garinda 12-10-2010 08:38

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I've been using another one lately.

'Hello, can I speak to Mr. Garinda?'

'No. I'm afraid he's busy at the moment, but if you leave your home number I'll make sure he calls you back, though it will probably be in the middle of the night.'

Clink.

jaysay 12-10-2010 09:21

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Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 851521)
Similar thing here jaysay. The girl started going on about debt and I told her "Sorry I don't lend money to people I don't know" she laughed and hung up.
An alarm system company in Morecambe had the same number as me years ago apart from the code which is 0524. I got woken many times with the police ringing me up to reset an alarm or something or other. One night I told the police lady who had rung three times in 5 minutes to clear off as I was trying to break into a safe and she was holding me up. On the fourth attempt I explained her mistake and she realized she had dialled 0254. I think in those days the codes didn't have the 1 after the 0.
It doesn't happen now, either crime has stopped in Morecambe or the alarm company has gone bust because everybody rang me instead of them.

That happened to me as well Gremlin, Acc is 01254, whilst Blackpool and district is 01253. I think its Blackpool Honda Motor Bikes have the same fax number as my phone number apart from the code. Some bird brain had sent a directive to all their customers giving them their new fax number but the wrong code, consequently I was inundated by people wanting to send me a fax, I contacted BT and they did ease of somewhat but even today I still get the occasional call, the only trouble is they're usually on auto redial and my phone rings for around six time before it gives up:mad:

jaysay 02-12-2010 09:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 851643)
That happened to me as well Gremlin, Acc is 01254, whilst Blackpool and district is 01253. I think its Blackpool Honda Motor Bikes have the same fax number as my phone number apart from the code. Some bird brain had sent a directive to all their customers giving them their new fax number but the wrong code, consequently I was inundated by people wanting to send me a fax, I contacted BT and they did ease of somewhat but even today I still get the occasional call, the only trouble is they're usually on auto redial and my phone rings for around six time before it gives up:mad:

Had a result on this issue:mosher:On monday setayes called in to see me and whilst the was here the phone rang and it was one of these bogus faxes, I told him of the trouble I'd been having and he suggested I ring BT and get fax generated calls barred from my number, so I did and I have, takes 28 days to become effective but at last a result, thank you setayes:mosher:

Neil 02-12-2010 16:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 866159)
....takes 28 days to become effective ...

28 days, they are having a laugh.
Whats that then, 27 days 23 hours 58 mins waiting and then 2 minutes to bring up your account and tick a box?


I am interested to know how they bar fax calls.

jaysay 02-12-2010 17:58

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 866201)
28 days, they are having a laugh.
Whats that then, 27 days 23 hours 58 mins waiting and then 2 minutes to bring up your account and tick a box?


I am interested to know how they bar fax calls.

I believe you can have lots of things barred Neil, I know you can have withheld numbers barred for one, and calls from outside the UK

accyman 03-12-2010 19:52

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british telecom told me only the other week they have not got any means of stopping overseas telemaketers which with todays technologhy is quite unacceptable and poor service from BT

jaysay 04-12-2010 10:00

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 866457)
british telecom told me only the other week they have not got any means of stopping overseas telemaketers which with todays technologhy is quite unacceptable and poor service from BT

That's where all the nuisance calls come from these days, ya can't tell a word they say for a start, especially those from India and Liverpool :D

MargaretR 04-12-2010 10:34

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I hang up as soon as I hear 'congratulations' in a yankee accent.

jaysay 04-12-2010 10:40

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 866544)
I hang up as soon as I hear 'congratulations' in a yankee accent.

Snap:D

cashman 04-12-2010 12:24

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i dont hang up, i just leave the phone n go to another room.:D

RHFOY 21-12-2010 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Len (Post 87943)
Nuisance telephone calls.
I have been told to try this below:

Are you, like me, fed up with those constant telephone calls inviting you to order a new kitchen, change your telephone service or informing you that you may have won a holiday?

If you are, you might like to know of a service called the telephone preference service, which allows you to block these cold-canvass callers. It’s a simple to use, free service, and all you need to do is ring the number and select your options. Alternatively you can do the same thing online by accessing the website. The details are as follows:

Telephone: 0845 0700707
Website: www.tpsonline.org.uk

Once you register it takes up to 28 days for the service to take effect – but it does work!
.................................................. ..

Hope it helps.

more billions and more thousands more jobs lost, as people cant just say as soon has they sa hello is... all you need to do is say no thank you Goodbye.. you never know you might have to do such a job one day, yes you might hate it but if it keeps people in a job and helps pay the bills.. 30 SECONDS OFF INCONVEIENCE, would avoid more unemployment and less people signing on the dole and you and me paying for it...

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 20:24

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No, I do not agree with this at all.

I do not wish to be 'cold called' or canvassed for something that I do not require, often being told that I have won a prize(which is laughable as you cannot win something if you do not enter)...that is why I signed up to the TPS service, and firms who contravene the rules are breaking the law.

If I wish to avail myself of goods and services, I am quite capable of seeking out the services that meet my needs.

I do not wish my meals or any other activities to be interrupted by these callers, many of whom are from the Indian sub continent anyway, (so no jobs being lost in this country)by a caller with a heavy indian accent who calls himself 'Kevin'.

The people who take on these jobs know what they are letting themselves in for and if they can't stand it then they have two choices.

RHFOY 21-12-2010 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870372)
No, I do not agree with this at all.

I do not wish to be 'cold called' or canvassed for something that I do not require, often being told that I have won a prize(which is laughable as you cannot win something if you do not enter)...that is why I signed up to the TPS service, and firms who contravene the rules are breaking the law.

If I wish to avail myself of goods and services, I am quite capable of seeking out the services that meet my needs.

I do not wish my meals or any other activities to be interrupted by these callers, many of whom are from the Indian sub continent anyway, (so no jobs being lost in this country)by a caller with a heavy indian accent who calls himself 'Kevin'.

The people who take on these jobs know what they are letting themselves in for and if they can't stand it then they have two choices.

good point re loss off jobs in this country, re their choice, sadly sometimes you have to do what you have to do to survive... i do take onboard your having your tea or could ba when your baby is ill and more... i would rarther have time restrictions to when you can call a consumer... your point i will decice when and were i buy goods.. you would be very surprised how many other consumers love it??? again sadly this great source off business as been abused and ruined !!!

RHFOY 21-12-2010 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870372)
No, I do not agree with this at all.

I do not wish to be 'cold called' or canvassed for something that I do not require, often being told that I have won a prize(which is laughable as you cannot win something if you do not enter)...that is why I signed up to the TPS service, and firms who contravene the rules are breaking the law.

If I wish to avail myself of goods and services, I am quite capable of seeking out the services that meet my needs.

I do not wish my meals or any other activities to be interrupted by these callers, many of whom are from the Indian sub continent anyway, (so no jobs being lost in this country)by a caller with a heavy indian accent who calls himself 'Kevin'.
i missed your kevin point... now here is an example and fact why they call themselves kevin... there is a genuine belief that if they said hi its Abdul or Mohamed people put the phone down as they dont buy off asians or people are R-----S..
i m having trouble

The people who take on these jobs know what they are letting themselves in for and if they can't stand it then they have two choices.

its in the middle

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 20:40

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So why call those who are on the TPS list...those who have registered their personal choice not to receive these calls?....this must cost firms hundred of thousands of pounds for no gain whatsoever, and they risk a hefty fine from the ICO.

Call those folk who aren't registered....they might want to receive these calls....I don't.

There are always other jobs, personally I wouldn't do this job at any price.

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 20:44

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I have no trust in firms who get their call centre workers to adopt an anglicised name on the presumption that I will believe that the person calling me is English.
Don't they think I have the sense to spot the heavy accent?

If they do not tell the truth about who their workers are, then what other lies do they think they can put past me?

I will always give them short shrift.

RHFOY 21-12-2010 20:45

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870380)
So why call those who are on the TPS list...those who have registered their personal choice not to receive these calls?....this must cost firms hundred of thousands of pounds for no gain whatsoever, and they risk a hefty fine from the ICO.

Call those folk who aren't registered....they might want to receive these calls....I don't.

There are always other jobs, personally I wouldn't do this job at any price.

you cannot call people on tps its an offence, more tps more unemployment, computers will be next, ie emailing... for and against is good debate. :-)

RHFOY 21-12-2010 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870382)
I have no trust in firms who get their call centre workers to adopt an anglicised name on the presumption that I will believe that the person calling me is English.
Don't they think I have the sense to spot the heavy accent?

If they do not tell the truth about who their workers are, then what other lies do they think they can put past me?

I will always give them short shrift.

i gave you the reason... so now let me give you a fact and im trying to be very polite by the way.. i did an excercise on just this... guess what abdul had more phone slammers then when he called and said hi its david wanting... now is that because he sounded funny with his dialect, or people dont buy off abduls ??????
if you want to know what type off houses we were ringing at the time?? i cannot tell you on here

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 20:50

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No Jobs will be lost at TPS......TPS is just the register of people who do not wish to be called by sellers and canvassers.
And you need to explain what you mean by 'computers will be next'.

These cold calls are the telegraphic form of 'Spam'....I can control the spam on my computer by using a good spam filter....the TPS is a form of spam filter for telephones

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870384)
i gave you the reason... so now let me give you a fact and im trying to be very polite by the way.. i did an excercise on just this... guess what abdul had more phone slammers then when he called and said hi its david wanting... now is that because he sounded funny with his dialect, or people dont buy off abduls ??????


Oh, I understand the reason, but I don't appreciate being treated as an idiot by the firms that use this tactic.......I can spot an Asian Accent, and it doesn't fool anyone.
I would not buy anything from a cold caller, I prefer to research products and choose where I purchase my goods and services from.

I actually don't care where the cold caller is phoning from...what I care about is that they should not be calling me at all.

And yes of course you are polite, it is what is expected on this family forum.

RHFOY 21-12-2010 21:00

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870386)
Oh, I understand the reason, but I don't appreciate being treated as an idiot by the firms that use this tactic.......I can spot an Asian Accent, and it doesn't fool anyone.
I would not buy anything from a cold caller, I prefer to research products and choose where I purchase my goods and services from.

I actually don't care where the cold caller is phoning from...what I care about is that they should not be calling me at all.

And yes of course you are polite, it is what is expected on this family forum.

thats your right, i said polite as things get misconstrued in threads/texting, i always try and be polite..

RHFOY 21-12-2010 21:03

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870384)
i gave you the reason... so now let me give you a fact and im trying to be very polite by the way.. i did an excercise on just this... guess what abdul had more phone slammers then when he called and said hi its david wanting... now is that because he sounded funny with his dialect, or people dont buy off abduls ??????
if you want to know what type off houses we were ringing at the time?? i cannot tell you on here

its not about lies its about strategy and facts, some off the biggest high street companies use this strategy!!!

RHFOY 21-12-2010 21:06

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870385)
No Jobs will be lost at TPS......TPS is just the register of people who do not wish to be called by sellers and canvassers.
And you need to explain what you mean by 'computers will be next'.

These cold calls are the telegraphic form of 'Spam'....I can control the spam on my computer by using a good spam filter....the TPS is a form of spam filter for telephones

i meant more people on tps means less consumers to call so less employees needed..

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 21:08

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Me too(polite).
They might call it a strategy, but I call it lies....you can dress it up anyway you want, but it will never be the truth, what is worse is that it is an obvious untruth.......and just because large multi-nationals do it, doesn't make it right, or for that matter acceptable.

RHFOY 21-12-2010 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870382)
I have no trust in firms who get their call centre workers to adopt an anglicised name on the presumption that I will believe that the person calling me is English.
Don't they think I have the sense to spot the heavy accent?

If they do not tell the truth about who their workers are, then what other lies do they think they can put past me?

I will always give them short shrift.

i hope you are not rude if camelot ring to announce how much you have ???? lol and lots of laughs :-) :-) they might start with hello is that mrs

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 21:12

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870389)
i meant more people on tps means less consumers to call so less employees needed..


No I don't agree with that assumption either.

The consumers will always be out there, they might have less money to spend, and they might be more discerning about what they buy.

All it means is that the folk on TPS will choose some other means of sourcing their purchases.

The job losses will be in the field of telemarketers.
I would say Hallelujah to that.

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 21:13

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Camelot are unlikely to ring me and tell me anything....I do not participate in the lottery.

RHFOY 21-12-2010 21:14

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870394)
No I don't agree with that assumption either.

The consumers will always be out there, they might have less money to spend, and they might be more discerning about what they buy.

All it means is that the folk on TPS will choose some other means of sourcing their purchases.

The job losses will be in the field of telemarketers.
I would say Hallelujah to that.

you certainly have a passion on this one Margeret thanks for the good and enjoyable debate :-)

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 21:15

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You are welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.

RHFOY 21-12-2010 21:15

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870395)
Camelot are unlikely to ring me and tell me anything....I do not paticipate in the lottery.

hahahahaha love it, well thats me shut up :-)

Margaret Pilkington 21-12-2010 21:15

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You should perhaps read my blog.

RHFOY 21-12-2010 21:29

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870400)
You should perhaps read my blog.

i will do were do i find it?? that may be a silly question to those who are fully i.t. literate :-)

Retlaw 21-12-2010 21:56

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870368)
more billions and more thousands more jobs lost, as people cant just say as soon has they sa hello is... all you need to do is say no thank you Goodbye.. you never know you might have to do such a job one day, yes you might hate it but if it keeps people in a job and helps pay the bills.. 30 SECONDS OFF INCONVEIENCE, would avoid more unemployment and less people signing on the dole and you and me paying for it...

The vast majority of those call centers are not in this country, so how would that affect the British workers or our economy.
Those call centers were moved abroad to benefit from cheap wages & more profits, very little of it comes back into Our economy.
How many Asians do you know called Simon.
"Hello my name is Simon I'm calling on behalf of". Down goes the phone.
Retlaw

cashman 21-12-2010 22:04

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870407)
i will do were do i find it?? that may be a silly question to those who are fully i.t. literate :-)

Top of the page, just click on Blogs.:)

RHFOY 21-12-2010 23:11

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 870418)
The vast majority of those call centers are not in this country, so how would that affect the British workers or our economy.
Those call centers were moved abroad to benefit from cheap wages & more profits, very little of it comes back into Our economy.
How many Asians do you know called Simon.
"Hello my name is Simon I'm calling on behalf of". Down goes the phone.
Retlaw

1, i was talking about british call centers, and there are many
2, you have mis understood my kevin point
3, ive explained the concept
4, billions are purchased from call centers
and thats your choice to put the phonr down in any manner you choose..

RHFOY 21-12-2010 23:12

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 870422)
Top of the page, just click on Blogs.:)

found it ..thank you

jaysay 22-12-2010 09:03

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I am on TPS and regularly get calls from the far east, usually India, I had one last week when this guy told me according to their records I had financial problems, that prat got both barrels, I've never owed a penny to any one in my life

accyman 22-12-2010 09:14

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i prefer british call centers they have a better understanding of our obscenities and you dont have to repeat them thrice for them to get the message :)

jaysay 22-12-2010 09:35

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 870489)
i prefer british call centers they have a better understanding of our obscenities and you dont have to repeat them thrice for them to get the message :)

There nearly all foreigners in British call centres accyman;)

MargaretR 22-12-2010 09:42

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I have been registered with TPS for a long time but recently have been 'moithered' by calls as a result of online searching for cheap car insurance. Not all 'search the market' sites give the option of 'no marketing follow up calls'.

RHFOY 22-12-2010 12:13

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 870501)
I have been registered with TPS for a long time but recently have been 'moithered' by calls as a result of online searching for cheap car insurance. Not all 'search the market' sites give the option of 'no marketing follow up calls'.

alot of people assume that the tps cover and monitor and control the calls from the web which at the moment is very difficult to police.

accyman 22-12-2010 13:53

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 870499)
There nearly all foreigners in British call centres accyman;)

your right.Because research showed a scottish accent was most likely to gain better results in things such as debt collection and sales most of the call centers went up north.

i dunno where they did that research because anyone wanting money from me gets hung up on regardless of how they speak :)

cashman 22-12-2010 13:59

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 870530)

i dunno where they did that research because anyone wanting money from me gets hung up on regardless of how they speak :)

Well i won't call ya, but give us a Tenner.:D

RHFOY 22-12-2010 16:42

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 870530)
your right.Because research showed a scottish accent was most likely to gain better results in things such as debt collection and sales most of the call centers went up north.

i dunno where they did that research because anyone wanting money from me gets hung up on regardless of how they speak :)

yes it was the scottish accent, followed by the brummy accent i think and then scouse(surprised at the scouse being third... but has ive said earlies to others, it is upto the inv- person on how they respond to calls at home, i just prefer to say no thank you as i personally feel that rudeness breeds rudeness and is part of all our attempts to bring values and manners back to modern society. :-)

RHFOY 22-12-2010 16:51

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 866562)
i dont hang up, i just leave the phone n go to another room.:D

my call center would terminate after 3o seconds off no voice, and if you dont answer after 8 rings it stops and automatically dials another number.
to the people who dont want these calls? i would suggest an answer machine as we leave a message on them then if the consumer wishes to discuss the said message they can if not they can just press delete... i dont answer private numbers on my mobile my attitude is this... if its urgent/important they will leave a message!!! if no message it was prob- someone who i didnt want to speak too, :-)

jaysay 22-12-2010 18:04

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I had a bloody silent call about 4-45pm today of course when I 1471d it they didn't have the number to return the all, bloody India no doubt:mad::mad:

RHFOY 22-12-2010 18:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 870577)
I had a bloody silent call about 4-45pm today of course when I 1471d it they didn't have the number to return the all, bloody India no doubt:mad::mad:

prob- an english call center as alot of these are very rude and they will ring people back and play what they call games with consumers, these clowns dont realise that they are ringing a consumer in THEIR HOME!!
THE INDIANS,are polite but some are a little slow on the up take and ring off standard scripts and when you produce a question thats not on their agenda/or list they struggle hence why folk get the hump..

Margaret Pilkington 22-12-2010 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870548)
my call center would terminate after 3o seconds off no voice, and if you dont answer after 8 rings it stops and automatically dials another number.
to the people who dont want these calls? i would suggest an answer machine as we leave a message on them then if the consumer wishes to discuss the said message they can if not they can just press delete... i dont answer private numbers on my mobile my attitude is this... if its urgent/important they will leave a message!!! if no message it was prob- someone who i didnt want to speak too, :-)

I have an answer machine and they never ever leave messages, but I know I have had a call because my phone logs 'missed calls'.
When you check who the calls were from it is always number unavailable.

I am never rude, I am polite and to the point( I can tell someone where to go in such sweet terms that they look forward to packing for the trip)........although I have to say that on a couple of occasions I have had a bit of fun at the callers expense....I figured that if they wanted to waste my time, then the least I could do would be to help them waste a bit of their life too.
Nuisance calls are just that.....a nuisance. I have done my best to stop them from having to incur my wrath(polite as it might be)......I wish to goodness that they would get the message.
It would save us all a lot of irritation.

jaysay 22-12-2010 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870588)
prob- an english call center as alot of these are very rude and they will ring people back and play what they call games with consumers, these clowns dont realise that they are ringing a consumer in THEIR HOME!!
THE INDIANS,are polite but some are a little slow on the up take and ring off standard scripts and when you produce a question that's not on their agenda/or list they struggle hence why folk get the hump..

When you ring 1471 and they reply we don't have the number to return the call its a number from outside the country, if its from this country it usually say the caller withheld their number

cashman 22-12-2010 18:41

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just had a "Withheld Number" ring, have stopped answering those, only 1 of our friends has a withheld n she can't keep her gob shut, so will speak into the answering bit.:D

RHFOY 22-12-2010 20:35

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 870605)
just had a "Withheld Number" ring, have stopped answering those, only 1 of our friends has a withheld n she can't keep her gob shut, so will speak into the answering bit.:D

hahaha, we all have one off them cashman :-)

RHFOY 22-12-2010 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 870603)
When you ring 1471 and they reply we don't have the number to return the call its a number from outside the country, if its from this country it usually say the caller withheld their number

are... right.. well i didnt know that so another fact learnt today :-)

RHFOY 22-12-2010 20:42

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870602)
I have an answer machine and they never ever leave messages, but I know I have had a call because my phone logs 'missed calls'.
When you check who the calls were from it is always number unavailable.

I am never rude, I am polite and to the point( I can tell someone where to go in such sweet terms that they look forward to packing for the trip)........although I have to say that on a couple of occasions I have had a bit of fun at the callers expense....I figured that if they wanted to waste my time, then the least I could do would be to help them waste a bit of their life too.
Nuisance calls are just that.....a nuisance. I have done my best to stop them from having to incur my wrath(polite as it might be)......I wish to goodness that they would get the message.
It would save us all a lot of irritation.

the reason most centers use unavailable numbers is this.. as their centers would be blocked with return callers.. plus you will love this(please dont do this at home)... consumers would ring them back and ABUSE AND WASTE THEIR TIME.... PLEASE DONT USE THIS IN EVIDENCE AGAINST ME.:-))))

RHFOY 22-12-2010 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870602)
I have an answer machine and they never ever leave messages, but I know I have had a call because my phone logs 'missed calls'.
When you check who the calls were from it is always number unavailable.

I am never rude, I am polite and to the point( I can tell someone where to go in such sweet terms that they look forward to packing for the trip)........although I have to say that on a couple of occasions I have had a bit of fun at the callers expense....I figured that if they wanted to waste my time, then the least I could do would be to help them waste a bit of their life too.
Nuisance calls are just that.....a nuisance. I have done my best to stop them from having to incur my wrath(polite as it might be)......I wish to goodness that they would get the message.
It would save us all a lot of irritation.

SUGGESTION.... have your home phone cut off and just use a mobile? (im ducking already).. :-)

Margaret Pilkington 22-12-2010 20:48

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I need my phone line for the internet(I know I could use a dongle but NO why should I?).......anyway what's a mobile?

RHFOY 22-12-2010 20:54

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870640)
I need my phone line for the internet(I know I could use a dongle but NO why should I?).......anyway what's a mobile?

hahaha, you ******... now im sure you are aware there is a 2 way socket so you can still enjoy your internet only as the modem brings the connection :-)

RHFOY 22-12-2010 21:36

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Originally Posted by RHFOY (Post 870641)
hahaha, you ******... now im sure you are aware there is a 2 way socket so you can still enjoy your internet only as the modem brings the connection :-)

that word thats been starred was a jovial remark :-)

jaysay 23-12-2010 09:29

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 870640)
I need my phone line for the internet(I know I could use a dongle but NO why should I?).......anyway what's a mobile?

Mobile Margaret:rolleyes:ain't it one of them things you used to hang over babies cott to keep um amused:D

Margaret Pilkington 23-12-2010 11:16

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Well, it might be.
We were poor so didn't have such things.

jaysay 17-01-2011 18:01

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Well this must be a first:eek:was watching Eggheads tonight when the phone rang, Hello Mr. Farrer, my name is blabla just a quick call, we're a new company, JD buts in I'm on the preferred callers list you should not be ringing me, if you ring me again I will report you, I put the phone down. Ten seconds latter it rings again, Mr Farrer I'm very sorry If I disturbed you I have called back to say I have removed your name from all our data bases, sorry for any inconvenience bye bye what a refreshing change:mosher:

park381 17-01-2011 18:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876047)
Well this must be a first:eek:was watching Eggheads tonight when the phone rang, Hello Mr. Farrer, my name is blabla just a quick call, we're a new company, JD buts in I'm on the preferred callers list you should not be ringing me, if you ring me again I will report you, I put the phone down. Ten seconds latter it rings again, Mr Farrer I'm very sorry If I disturbed you I have called back to say I have removed your name from all our data bases, sorry for any inconvenience bye bye what a refreshing change:mosher:

That's the way to do it, tell them your phone is registered with tps, must say though ours is registered but calls seem to have started again, must be selling data lists again :rolleyes:

jaysay 17-01-2011 18:23

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Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876050)
That's the way to do it, tell them your phone is registered with tps, must say though ours is registered but calls seem to have started again, must be selling data lists again :rolleyes:

Ya Park they have started again the only problem being is that a lot of them come from India and there's not a thing we can do about it, except hang up:(

park381 17-01-2011 18:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876057)
Ya Park they have started again the only problem being is that a lot of them come from India and there's not a thing we can do about it, except hang up:(

Must be speaking very good english then. There are companies out there that make big money out of selling lists of addresses and phone numbers, we need to burn the lists, how many times have you filled online forms in with name + address + phone number + mobile number. :eek:

jaysay 17-01-2011 18:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876063)
Must be speaking very good english then. There are companies out there that make big money out of selling lists of addresses and phone numbers, we need to burn the lists, how many times have you filled online forms in with name + address + phone number + mobile number. :eek:

I Never include my phone number on line Park, nor my adress if I can get away with it

park381 17-01-2011 18:57

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876067)
I Never include my phone number on line Park, nor my adress if I can get away with it

So you have never bought anything on line then?

MargaretR 17-01-2011 19:07

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My address and phone number are plastered everywhere on the web because that's where I buy everything. I don't think I get pestered more than other folk here have said they do.

I think the electoral list and the phone book are basic spam/junk mail sources and they are the two I have opted out of.

park381 17-01-2011 19:11

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 876073)
My address and phone number are plastered everywhere on the web because that's where I buy everything. I don't think I get pestered more than other folk here have said they do.

I think the electoral list and the phone book are basic spam/junk mail sources and they are the two I have opted out of.

Good on you margaret, they build up lists from all sorts of places

jaysay 18-01-2011 09:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876072)
So you have never bought anything on line then?

Everytime I've bought anything on line its been a secure site, would use it otherwise;)

jaysay 18-01-2011 09:11

Re: Nuisance telephone calls.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 876073)
My address and phone number are plastered everywhere on the web because that's where I buy everything. I don't think I get pestered more than other folk here have said they do.

I think the electoral list and the phone book are basic spam/junk mail sources and they are the two I have opted out of.

as you say Margaret there are two electoral lists, the official one used for official purposes and another one that is available to buisness, you can, as you say, opt out of your name being on that list, but does everybody know that:confused:

park381 18-01-2011 09:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876189)
Everytime I've bought anything on line its been a secure site, would use it otherwise;)

Even secure sites can be a problem. They are all in business to make money, and if it means selling lists they will do just that.The calls show on our phone as "out of area" so its left to ring out

jaysay 18-01-2011 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876198)
Even secure sites can be a problem. They are all in business to make money, and if it means selling lists they will do just that.The calls show on our phone as "out of area" so its left to ring out

I think you'll find that under the data protection act companies are obliged to ask you if they can give your name to other outlets, that's the reason there is usually a box which says tick the box if you don't want your details being passed onto other companies

park381 18-01-2011 09:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876200)
I think you'll find that under the data protection act companies are obliged to ask you if they can give your name to other outlets, that's the reason there is usually a box which says tick the box if you don't want your details being passed onto other companies

That don't always work

jaysay 18-01-2011 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by park381 (Post 876206)
That don't always work

Well it should do, because firms that ignore your wishes are breaking the law and the penalties can be very severe

park381 18-01-2011 10:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 876210)
Well it should do, because firms that ignore your wishes are breaking the law and the penalties can be very severe

I like that, and remember it the next time I tick the no box ;)


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