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just thinking from another thread many words well used now gone from childhood, can you remember any? the first one that springs to my mind is SLOPSTONE, now called the sink.would be interested if you could name some! :engsmil:
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Did anybody else brush their backyard with water and a "swilling brush"?
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yes willow ,and my grandad used to have a swill...meaning wash his face ,,,and then he would change his singlet,,,i.e vest.
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pumee stoning the step was another.
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My dad actually used this term to..................." just going for a quick swill" meaning a bath.
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beg to differ a "quick swill " was having a quick wash in our house.
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I tell you something else that has gone missing in dialect............and it was used and still is used in my house, not hard to remember...............taught to me by my parents.
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My dad had a few dialect expressions - though I think some of them were his own. One of them was "manking" and it meant - er - getting up to no good behind the bike-shed, so to speak.
My favourite, of his, I have never been sure whether he made it up. He would refer to anyone having a tantrum (or "losing their rag" or just acting a bit wild) as "Having a Tommy Berry Do". Has anyone else ever heard it and, if so, who the hell was Tommy Berry? |
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laking was one i dont hear now! = someone who hasnt gone to work and aint sick.
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wat dosty mean we lost or dialict, tha doont hav ta saay it lik vat,yu spook as thee wer spook to simple.tha dosnt hav ta go ooer theer ta get at it jus get thee sel down yonder, an soort thee sel owt.if tha drippin get thee cloth ouer wash line and dry ti sel off.:D
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I always liked 'I'm going up t'brew to get m' hair powed'
Then there was 'witchered' meaning wet through. |
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I notice Staggers said "thi sel" - with my parents it always used to be "thi sen" as in "get thi sen up them steers!" (go to bed)
Which brings me to the interesting point that it is generally assumed that the Lancashire way of pronouncing "stairs" is "sturs" ( after all the pronunciation for "bear" and "fair" is "burr" and "furr" - "thurr wurr a burr at't furr") but it was always "steers" in our house and yet "stair" rhymes with "bear". Curious isn't it? On a cold day I was usually advised to "put thi coit on, tha'll catch thi deeath!" |
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i love our dialect ........it sets us apart , iv'e been to many places & my accent has got me into loads of conversations. lets not loose all of it .
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Some people I remember used to do really intricate patterns with it, a bit like henna tattoos today. |
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Paddy- temper tantrum.
Mard- overly emotional. Radiogram- like an i-pod but usually six foot long. |
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Pumee stone was what you rubbed on your feet to get rid of corns and dead skin
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Yes. Donkey stones where what you did the step with.
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My mum and dad used to tell us to " go up the golden dancers"............meaning go UP STAIRS to bed.
Not sure why they called them the Golden Dancers???? anyone know:confused: |
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when we where sent ta bed it was get up them apple and pears.(stairs)
go an gi coits a clean, (toilet roof outside). |
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You cleaned your coits?????
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we said donkey stone,,, but what had donkeys to do with the word?
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I think it had something to do with an image of a donkey on the stone.
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[QUOTE=garinda]You must have been posh, everyone else called it 'donkey stoning'.:D you know me rindy i am posh ! but you are correct it was donkey stone- you have to make allowances for me age lol :D
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Donkey jacket?. Flat cap, (a Ratter ). Coits, Roofs over outside tiolets and coal shed.
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I remember being told to "get up them dancers" by my Uncle Jimmy - our's weren't golden dancers though, we must have been poor.
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We were poor too and just had plain owd 'dancers'
My Nan used to come out with some crackers... "You gormless b*gger, tha's getten an oil in tha frock." "What's ee skennin at?" :D |
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in our house going to bed was 'going to blanket fair'......we emptied the tin bath with a ladin can.......and the water for the bath we had was heated up in't copper.....an t'copper were lit with a spill......and if you weren't careful lighting the copper you could blow your eyebrows off.
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We used to call the Leeds & Liverpool canal the cut. Thus:
"Ast' bin swimmin int' cut?" (have you been swimming in the canal?). BTW, we didn't buy any donkey stones at the shop that I can remember -- our Rag & Bone man used to give them out as payment for stuff given him. James |
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We used to call an item of clothing (dress, shirt or jacket, etc.)"clout". Thus:
"ne'er cast a clout 'till May goes out" |
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And of course nobody liked to empty the "jerries" in the morning -- I used to hate that job!
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My gran had "jerries". We had a "po" and a "guzunder" According to my Dad it was so named because "It guzunder the bed."
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we had a guzzunder too my hubby had a peeanna
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Does anyone know why we called licorice "spanish"?
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Wax "tapers" to light the way in the dark parts of the house at night.
A liitle off topic (sorry) -- does anyone remember when electrification of houses was completed in Lancashire? I remember that my grandma Baldwin still had gas lighting in 1936 -- you had to adjust the mantle with little chains to get the right amount of lighting. |
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Remember when holes in the heels of (mostly boy's) socks were called "spuds"?
"Tha's got a reet big spud in thi left sock, Jim" |
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As an Accringtonian myself I am surprised that none of you have mentioned the word to describe anything good or well done, "Gradely"...
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BTW, we didn't buy any donkey stones at the shop that I can remember -- our Rag & Bone man used to give them out as payment for stuff given him.
James[/QUOTE] On a serious note, the rag and bone man traded the donkey stone was my Father, he was the only R&B man who did that in Accy. |
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My Granny had gas mantles as late as 1960.
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remember Gating up the fire.?
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we put a shovel in front and then a newspaper,,,if you wernt careful it would set on fire and stink the room out
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Granny Morris used to describe people with squints as "Skenning like a basket o' whelps". But we didn't have spills to light the gas, we had tapers (got them from Emily's in Henry Street).
The clout that you shouldn't cast had nothing to do with the month, by the way - it was the May blossom that had to be out before you could take the capsicum tissue from under your liberty bodice! |
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And were you told to 'Stop thi mitherin'.......?
I remember buying Donkey stones at Bob Wilkinsons Hardware shop on Nuttall St in Accrington......we used to have wax tapers as well as spills......the spills were rainbow coloured and I used to play with them...... My Auntie lived in Walsden and she still had gaslight up until 1970 when she left her little cottage and moved into a HFE. |
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GC.....we must've been a bit posh because we had a Zinc 'blower' instead of a shovel......we also had a gas poker, but that was only because we had an uncle who worked for the gas board and he got it cheap for us. I used to get severely told off for standing on the the red rubber tubing and making it go out.......My dad said I would get blown to kingdom come.......I wanted to go to find out where it was......silly girl!
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My Great Aunt Agnes had gaslight for years - it made electric light look very harsh by comparison.
Her reason for sticking with it was that if the gas leaked, you could smell it, but if the electricity leaked, it could be all over the house before you knew about it ....... |
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Oh, Pendy.....my gran was like that, she had spare plugs in all the sockets so that the electricity couldn't escape......no amount of explanations from my dad would reassure her that it didn't do that. It makes me smile to think about it now.
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This is what my Dad would have said Staggers.
Wot dust tha mean. Tha dunt ev ta speyk lik that. Speyk propper. When thas speykin t me. Tha dunt ev ta gu or theer yon. T ged at it. Just sit thi bottom on that cheer or theer. If thas drippin wet get them clooas off an purem int back kitchen. Get thi sel dried befoore tha catches tha death. When we were sent to bed,we had to go up the airy mountens. Some times they would be Dancers. We had a guzzunder when me and my sister stopped at mi nans. Why a guzzunder? Because it gus under the bed of course. |
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exactly....i understood your dad,,
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Our stairs were the jolly dancers - we were also told a lot to put th'wood in th'ole (or please shut the door to the uninitiated)
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I love the old dialect and I used to be able to write poems in it, but because you rarely hear it now I have lost the knack.
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makes me think of when i lived in croft street (Neto there now) and playing with melted tar in the summer and mi ma saying "thi'll git mucky n' thi'll ned a b'th" :engsmil: :dummy: |
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MARGARET, who was your uncle who worked at the gas board? I worked there fo 14 years, 1960-74.
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tha's nod as green as tha'art cabbage looking
thers nowt as griddle as wick ???????????? incidentally I am 28 and was in the new Accrington & Rossendale College construction building a few days ago and I remarked that I remember when this was all fields. I instantly felt octogenarian |
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All the dilects are dying out which is a shame its part of our heritage. :(
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heres a wee bit of northern ireland hospitality !! hope its not to rude and its still in use today
"Man, he's a fuggen dickbax, no bones about it. I'd knack the ballbegs ballix in...." Translates as: I'm not particularly fond of said person in question, but by jove, I'd hit him if I saw him. if this posts controversial tell me quick and i will remove it ..also if it offends anyone .. |
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I'm sure I don't know what it means, I'll have to get a little Northern Ireland dictionary.:) |
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Heres a word from the past, "Gradely", it was used in quite a few instances but loosely it meant good or something to be proud of as in "He's got himself a gradely car now instead of that old banger", or "About time tha got thi sel a gradely meal in thi".
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Ooooo please see my post in questions and answers about dialect speakers...you could be just the people im looking for!! (didnt want to repost it here in case I got done!)
In response to the topic though, I didnt realise half the stuff I was saying was just Lancashire until I went to university...one girl looked at me dead funny when I told her to stop mithering! ....its shocking the amount of people in sunderland now that go round saying 'eigh up' and talking about 'dooerstop butties' and 'corporation pop' ...id like to think it was my doing :D Katie x |
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Anybody remember -
"See all, say nowt - Eat all, pay nowt - And if tha does owt for nowt, do it for thysen". and "What thine's mine, and what's mines me own". |
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Here are a few that you might find obscure. Firstly the word 'Gozzle' this was phlegm or whatever coughed up from the lungs. My grandmother used to tell us kids a story about gozzle. She would tell us about all the old men who had chest complaints lying in hospital with a flat sloping tray next to their beds covered in a nice layer of icing sugar. The old men would gozzle onto it and the gozzle would roll down the tray picking up the icing sugar. Then hit us with her punchline,"That's how they make jelly babies" And of course all to make us go 'oh Yuk' Our reactions used to tickle her to bits. There were people in Accy who used to gozzle onto the footpath or road without a thought in those days.
Another word was "wezzle'. she used to threaten us kids that she would get some from the butcher for tea. After a bit of a tease she would then tell us it was a bulls willy. Grandmother used to look after us whilst mum was out at work and I learned alot of old lanky from her. Another word she used was 'pizzle(yes I know all these words have a double zz sound but once one remembers one I start to recall more:D Pizzle referred to rain. A bit more than drizzle but not as much as rain. Another one was scraggy which comes from scrags or scrag ends(butcher)which meant useless bits and pieces left over. In this case scraggy meant scruffy. There are a lot of examples of old Accy dialect on this thread and there also other threads with many many more. All it needs is for someone who has the time to collate them all and it would be a list any student of dialect would be proud of. There were also many a dialect word that was not strictly all over Accy.(circa 1945-50) There was neighbourhood dialect and different meanings as well for the same word depending on whereabouts in Accy you lived For example there would be one or two words used in the Derby st area that wouldn't be known in the Willows Lane area. Hard to believe but true. |
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just used an old one tonight without thinking, don,t really know if its still in use but i aint said it for yonks, paris was tired about 9-30 an i said( up the dancers)then we both fell about laughing cos it was what our mams said when we were small.:)
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I did that a few weeks ago and suddenly heard myself sounding like my Grannie! :D Whenever anyone told her any gossip or scandal she would reply. "ooooh aaah say!" |
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I fell about laughing the other day,, when i told someone to "Smile and give their face a joyride"... My mum said that when we were sulking as kids...
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My dad always used to say what ar ti fettling at nah,meaning I think what you doing
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Sometimes at bedtime we were told to go up the 'dolly dancers'. What's that all about???:eek: |
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Dad always used to say.......where there,s muck there,s brass...his once yearly bath in Surf sure proved that..:D ...all other times was......going for a swill.....when I was a kid he used to tuck me into bed and say.....neckle bless........???????........huh......??? still don,t know what that means....
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Sounds rather like "Night, God bless" to me. Perhaps his own version of it. :)
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another one surfaced today lol paris said she was getting vexed with me, aint heard that since i was young lol
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When I was young, my kid sister and I would be packed off to bed with the phrase, "Off you go. Up them dancers"...
My understanding of the derivation of this phrase is that it is a referrence to the 1930's Ginger Rodgers & Fred Astaire films, where there was always a strategically placed flight of stairs at the back of the film set, for them to dance a routine on. |
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Busman was taken by surprise the other day when someone asked him to give them 'a lift'. He thought they wanted to go somewhere in the car when actually they were asking for assisance with what they were doing. He'd never heard that before.
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I have never figured out what "lay-orrs to catch meddlers " are ?
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I don't know if this one has been mentioned before but yesterday I heard a mother say to her daughter "Come on! Shape yourself!" :D What shape would she like her to be I wonder? (That used to be one of my mother's sayings and my usual response)
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Eee mi mam used t say that has well.
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just remembered another lol me mam used to shake her fist and say i,ll JINK you,where the hell does that come from?:)
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another is ......do lally , (stark raving mad) anyone any ideas where that comes from ? ...kind of sounds irish ?
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I think it somes form the military sanitorium in Deolali, India. The soldiers who were there waiting there for months to be shipped back home were so bored they went a bit ... well...... doolally.
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My dad used to say, when asked what he was doing, "Making layo'ers for meddlers". I once heard that layo'ers were really lay overs, or nets, put over medlars, the fruit that's like a pear, to stop birds pecking them. Well, it's as good an explanation as any. :D |
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My mum used to say that, too, but my Yorkshire in-laws always said, "Frame yourself". :confused: |
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"somes form" :D I must have been half asleep! That should have been "comes from"
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where does this one originate? me dad used to say Behave or you,ll get BANJOED.
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paris n i were nattering last night n she said i'm Vexed at you, lol we both started laughing n said my mam used to say that to me, aint heard that for donkeys years, anyone still say/hear it.:)
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ive really enjoyed reading all your posts. :) ive not heard of most of them only one i recall is apples and pears meaning stairs.
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remember when i came down on holiday to blackburn well [visit relatives] they used to call heavy metal people knebs .sumthin like that:)
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one me grandad used to say when agreeing with someone was yahndeed, dont know if that will sound like it.:D
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Thal nairn flummax me - mi dad allus talked broad.
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Hi were a tackler 'n feckled in t' mill
Mi mum were a weaver and never got fetched up - good un I used to go t' mill after scewel and kiss shuttles fer 'er. |
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Gee Steeley, you seem to know your shuttles & Looms. Your mum must have been a weaver.
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