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just got to thinking the Vault in pubs used to be the working mans escape,they seemed to be on the slide early 70s,when some pubs allowed women in the sanctuary, then seemed to die altogether later. can anyone be more specific? when was the last male only vault in accy? and where? do you think it was a good thing they died? personally i dont.;)

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I remember folks talking about the Vault , but to my mind and them I grew up with it was allways called the Taproom , same place just a different name, wonder why ?

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my ex used to go out some 24 yrs ago every sat afternoon but wasnt accy , was blackburn in the kings arms me thinks and the vault was a men only room where they played cards/gambled etc and it was no good ringing up for them cus they were never in (if you get my drift) but yeah it was a good way for a bloke to get some space so long as they took their other half out on a sat night ... everyone was happy..

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and they called it progress........... :D

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Went upto Oban in Scotland about 10 years ago and my other half who is Scottish said that women weren't allowed in the pubs during the day. Anyway I thought he was joking until I walked into one before him and it was like the music stopped and everyone turned round to look at me, I couldn't believe it, he thought it was hilarious, I didn't and refused to go back in the evening too!:)

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that just about sums it up cherokee, think it followed on as willow said from the womens lib thing, which i agreed with, but its were you draw the line where it went wrong.

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I think places like this still exist...they are called gay bars!:D

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don't quote me but i believe in the burnley miners ther is still the men only room

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Once went to a bar in some remote part of France, women only allowed in to buy lottery for their husbands and a jug of ale to take home, they made an exception for me and boy what a night we had (me and Hubby) but cause it was a man's only pub they had no loos as such, across the main square was a urinal stone in open view of all. I was priveledged and got to use the family's loo.

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i used to work behind the bar at our local golf club and it had a mens room and a ladies lounge and i think the women were the ones that kicked up a fuss if the rules ever got broken ....used to make me laugh did that.... talk about moody birds lmao!!!!!

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Cant remember if the snug was for women only , anybody know.

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I'm too young to remember, but I do know in Coronation Street, Ena Sharples, Minnie Caldwell, and Martha Longhurst used to sit in the Snug to sup their Milk Stouts, so I think you're right.

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The Globe Inn had a snug when my grandmother had it 1927/1960 aprox, in the late 40s/50s it also served as grandma's downstairs lounge and was only open on certain evenings, as women would not dream of entering a public house unacompanied by a man in those days. No decent woman would even go in a tap room as this was also called the smoke room and women did not smoke in public either, the language and fights that developed would also put them off, this did not happen much in the Globe as grandma ran the pub as a widow and was respected for it. Drifting off thead a little women who did their washing on any other day except Monday was considered as 'common'.

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I wonder what changed, and made it acceptable for women to smoke in public, World War II?

I watched Brief Encounter again the other day, and there was the lovely Celia Johnson puffing away like a good un, whilst sat in the buffet on Carnforth station, and that was filmed at the end of 1945.

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I seem to remember when I was a drummer in the church lads brigade 1940/50 period our drum major harry walshs mother was the landlady of the globe pub facing the last orders pub on blackburn road I stand to be corrected

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Don't they have to allow lesbians in in these days of equality for all? ;)


I must be common then because I've got the washing machine on. ;)

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I know the guys at the Pioneer in Church tried there best to keep the tap room male only ,they lost though. It was always good fun in their being one of the only females able to go in .... perks of being the steward and stewardess's grandaughter :D

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bring em back !!!!! I say ...so us women can have a pint in peace..lol!!!

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Before leaving England's shores ten years ago, I played drums at the Birkdale Conservative Club. There was a "Men Only" room there, but there were only women behind the bar serving the drinks! Strange! The club had no female members either, only the men were allowed to be members and the women were allowed in as their guests, but not into the "Men Only" room of course.

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You are dead right keith, my cousin Harry Walsh was the Drum Major of the Boys Brigade, he lives in Springhill if you want his address pm me, I can well remember our Harry at the front of all the civic parades swinging the Mace and throwing it in the air, our Grandmother Hanna Walsh took the Globe Inn in 1927 with her husband Thomas who died 6 years later leaving her to raise 6 boys alone, she ran the pub single handed untill approx 1960. She died in her midd 90s. Harrys mother Charlotte Walsh nee Allen lived in brewey property 2 door up from the Globe Inn. Harrys Father Jack Walsh was killed Whilst on convoy duties in Bombay, serving with the Merchant Navy in 1944.

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, Your probally far to young to remember that Mondays, were was days and Mondays only in those days WillowTheWhisp, ask any of the older end, as for washing machines these did not appear till the late 50s in any affordable style.:rolleyes::D.

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they didn,t appear in our house until early 80s iantow, late missus refused to have one for many years, said she did a better job, when she eventually weakened she would only try a twin-tub,so it was late 80s before she finally sucummed and had a proper washing machine.:) me mum n me nan only ever washed on mondays though.

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Exactly the same in ours cashy - monday wash day, tuesday ironing, wednesday hoover & polish upstairs, thursday hoover & polish downstairs, Friday windows, Saturday clean the kitchen.

Mum had a washer for as long as i can remember. My dad got her a dryer and she wouldnt use it but we were the only ones who had one - so the neighbours if they were stuck they'd come and use ours!!! :D Our washing would be all over the place and theirs would be in the dryer. Eventually my dad did his nut one day and mum started using it. :D

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Do you remember the Flatley Dryer, we thought they were the best thing sliced bread was invented, till the electric bill arrived.:D:mad:

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I remember the Vault at the Black Dog in Ossy ... not a bad idea, the vault, where else can a man fart and get applause? (the question is rhetorical)

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Oops, time to concentrate, kind of hard with 7 baby Rottweilers in the house.

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Well, that was a convesation stopper ? :D

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We understand Eric you certainly must have a load of s--t to tollerate.:D

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can eny one remember men only in the games room of working mens clubs

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seem to remember we had a bit of a debate a while back on another thread as to wether the 'games- room' should be called the tap-room or the vault , or if there was a difference
Cashy, will probably be able to put you straight :D

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seemed to depend where in town? my pubs was always called the vault, yet go fer a crawl around differant watering holes some places called it the Tap Room, think it was probably a "generation" thing? WMCs though were differant places as i could tell, not being laid out like pubs, they tended to say "Games room" or "Snooker Room" as an aside to this it dawned on me today that if pubs were laid out as then,with differant rooms instead of being open plan as most have been converted to. the " No Smoking" ban could be got around by desingnating a smoking room, with extractors etc, and landlords would have a much improved chance of staying solvent.;)

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Even smoking rooms are illegal - except in hotels- for residents use only

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I were thinking that women were never usually allowed into the WMCs, only on special event nights in the concert room

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nor where they allowed in vaults.;)

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kind of odd when you think about , since in both places (pubs and clubs) women were present behind the bar pulling pints , either the stewards wife or landlady ....
.....but then again it was a different time and 'crude' language wasn't acceptable as much as it is these days , suppose logic proves that the decline in language standards came about with letting women into these places on their own and allowing them to sup pints :eek: :eek:

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Still stands at Rishton Working Mens Club. The ironic thing to me is that women are allowed to work behind the bar but not allowed to drink in the club!!!

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About 10 years ago, I was on the committee of a working mens club for about 2 or 3 years.

That was after the discrimination against women became unlawful.

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When I started drinking at 17 sorry 18 my watering hole was the Heys Inn Ossy and we must have been posh we had a Vault and Tap Room and a Select, te Vault was like a kidney shape rather small, but they used to cram about 12 in it every night if not more, them were the good old days, before the breweries thought it was better to knock walls down and take away the charactor, a big big mistake in my book:(

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in the early eighties i was steward of the
poplar club accy and females could not drink in the
games room but had to walk through the games room
to get to the lounge .. great planning :thankya:

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sorry on further recall it was the seventies not the eighties :hidewall:

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...doesn't time fly when you're having fun :D

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When women were first allowed in Springhill Club,on the back of their cards was printed-No Women or Dogs allowed at the Bar.They,the women had to get a male member to go to the bar for them.This did not last long(wonder why)

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if they would have had a "Blanket Ban" on women entering Pubs n Clubs, i would probably be one rich dude now.:rofl38::rofl38::drink:

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Amen to that cashy and I be an alchoholic as well:bar::thepint::s_splash::s_splash:

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another tradition that has sadly vanished as i have just discovered, was always me dads n then mine up to 96 when i moved away/ or have been away (easters early) i went down the Fish Market today as i always did on Good Friday back then n it was Closed:confused: was always a very busy day for traders,alas it must not be now.:(

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I used to get my fish for Good Friday from Bramwell's, but like you said cashy its shut, got mine this year from ASDA, well he daughter did, hell it cost an arm and a leg, two decent sized Cod steaks £9, mind you they say fish is a lot dearer than beef now, I'm not surprised:(

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we still do,but its getting more difficult, Asda was like Wembley stadium today.:rolleyes:

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Thats wihout the floodlights though cashy:D