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mac 25-03-2004 17:50

where was you when you found out dianna had died.
 
i was serving in germany. was busy that day. getting the kids ready. terrible two's with the oldest at the time. i went round to our friends and they were both just sat there crying and in shock. i found out then. there was alot of mutual comfort that day. very sad.


the funeral procession will always stick in my mind aswell. all those flowers. and the country coming to a standstill.


unbelievable

keith 25-03-2004 20:48

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I remember the smartness of the men of the raf regiment who carried diana to the waiting he**** on her arrival back in england and the massive figure of flight sergeant bennet carrying the cushion of flowers at the rear later that year my wife and I met him at raf uxbridge on a visit to the Queens colour squadron he had just been awarded a gong and you could not meet a nicer man but I dont suppose the lads on the squadron will think that especially now as they are training up for the Edinburgh tattoo

Tealeaf 26-03-2004 08:06

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I was in Hyde Park for the funeral procession; there were 2 lads - late teens & lets say of Mediterranean Complexion - sitting up a tree. They appeared to find the occaision a scource of amusement. Crowd protection was provided by the cops, and where I was, by stewards from Wembley Stadium; 2 of the latter - one a girl - went over to the tree and pulled the 2 lads down and gave them a right good kicking, after which they lost the smile on their face.

lindsay ormerod 26-03-2004 15:02

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I learnt about it on the sunday morning,I got the papers and must have got a first edition 'cos it said she was critical and Dodi was dead.I rushed home to put teletext on and there it was.The day of the funeral we flew to Spain on hols and everyone on the plane was wearing black ribbons.The neighbours in Spain were German and the father marched them all out onto the patio and said in broken English "we are sorry for your Princess".A strange day.

lettie 26-03-2004 16:03

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I had just landed in Izmir (Turkey) for the start of a holiday. We were told as we got off the plane. The Turks had set up shrines all over the country, and everybody lit candles. We were all given ribbons to wear. On the day of the funeral I was on a gullet cruise and we were totally silent for about 30 minutes. When we returned to the hotel, the family who owned it took us into the tv room to watch the remainder of the processions and things, it was really sad. It was so strange, as the Turkish people kept coming up to the English in the resorts and offering condolences.

lindsay ormerod 26-03-2004 18:17

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Isn't that strange Lettie;the German family next to us had shown little interest in us the previous years and were massively sympathetic.My colleagues back at Our Price had to deal with the fastest selling single ever,Elton John's tribute,and were closed for half a day for the funeral.

mac 26-03-2004 18:19

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it was amazing how much she was loved all over the world. she was loved in america. and to be honest i thought it was limiterd to us and the yanks. wasnt aware it was all over the world

mez 27-03-2004 08:13

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id been out the night before & got up late sat morn, my mate rang me bout 10-30am said put telly on & that was when &how ilearnt about it, i was stunned for the rest of the day.but the funeral oooo it still puts shivers up my spine & a tear in my eyes//

mac 28-03-2004 15:26

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we were all on parade for her medals on "the works". it was a very sad time.

Sara 28-03-2004 19:33

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I'd just got up and turned the radio on, and heard it on there. Put the TV on and also seen it on there, still had to ring my husband up at work (works on newspapers) to find out if it was true. That July spent some time in Califonia/Mexico, were when people heard the english accent they just came up to us to express sympathies. My children who were 7 & 10 at the time was amazed that total strangers were coming up talking to us. Must admit so was I.

janet 29-03-2004 15:22

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I was out in the park walking the dog, when a chap i know asked me what i thought about Diana having been killed in a car crash, i can tell you that i was gutted i could'nt believe it. I was very emotional at the time because my mum had died a few weeks before her.

WINGY 29-03-2004 19:09

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I was laid in bed, the alarm had just gone off for work (good old radio alarm clock) then i heard the news, i have to say it took a few times before it sank in.

AccyStanFan 31-03-2004 13:59

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sunday morning, woke up still in bed, still a kid, wanted to watch dome cartoons but nope just the news. i musta watched it for an hour, then went and told mi parents, who didnt belive me and sed it was a terrible thing to joke about.

Tealeaf 31-03-2004 14:28

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You've got a wicked sense of humour, Accy.

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 08:54

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no sorry i know its terrible but thats how u think as a kid.

Tealeaf 01-04-2004 09:11

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not neccessarily as a kid.

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 09:36

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well i didnt really know diana, she was on the news a bit but that was about it. i didnt understand so it was no great loss to me. only now i understand how she was loved and stuff.

people die all the time and are on the news so as a kid this was no different to me.

Tealeaf 01-04-2004 10:43

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I still do

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 11:28

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do what tealeaf?

savo is back. 01-04-2004 11:40

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I was at Queens park hospital as my partner at the time was in hospital, waiting to give birth to our daughter!! :sonic:

Tealeaf 01-04-2004 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyStanFan
do what tealeaf?

..have a kids sense of humour

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 12:51

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yeah some things never change.......like my socks!

Tealeaf 01-04-2004 13:10

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Or my underpants

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 13:21

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hope u use toliet paper!

Tealeaf 01-04-2004 13:32

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The Guardian, the Indepependant or the Mirror newspaper are fine.

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 13:40

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kinda hurt though wunt it

Tealeaf 01-04-2004 13:42

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you don't mind the pain when you know you're making a positive contribution to the recycling cause.

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 13:46

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well, whatever turns u on (dont ya just love turning a diana thread into an **** wiping thread)

Tealeaf 01-04-2004 14:11

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I restricted my earlier comments to the funeral which was a case of turning up to say "been there, seen it, got the t-shirt...". Unfortunatly, I never got the t shirt!....but you're quite right...i was one of those rare people who was appalled at the collective hysteria that occured that week of her death....it made me ashamed to be English; as for free speech, that went rapidly out the door. On at least one occaision I was threatened for questioning the logic of others and the character of Di. Anyway, it's a long time ago and I for one am pleased that we no longer have to put up with the daily drivel that so besmirched our media.

AccyStanFan 01-04-2004 14:33

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its the the "shock horror the queen mothers died and she was looking so healthy"

it was expected she was 100 odd

lettie 01-04-2004 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf
Or my underpants

I'm not sitting next to you at the Easter bash........

glasgow guy 02-04-2004 11:00

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was sitting at a garage at 3.30am on the sunday morning when I caught the news all it said then was that dodi had died and diana was seriously injured - went home and got up 4 hours later to the classical music they play when a member of royalty dies - kinda figuered it out then.

asfc babe 03-04-2004 14:44

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mum n dad told me on the sunday morning. Didn't really believe them at first. I was only a kid too.

Last year I went to Paris with college. We where shown where she had set off from and even went through the tunnel. Wasn't very plesent. Sent shivers down my spin.

ab:)

ShortStuff 03-04-2004 21:17

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I understand what AccyStanFan means - I was the same age as William when Diana died. My mum woke me up & she was crying her heart out - I asked her what was wrong & when she said Diana had died, to be honest, I was relieved it wasn't a family member. When your a kid, if it isn't happening in your world or to someone your close to, you just can't understand. I was very upset for William & Harry because all I could think about is how I would feel it my mum died. Now I realise how much she meant to everyone and understand why people were so upset & shocked.

Acrylic-bob 03-05-2004 07:39

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I remember it was a beautiful sunday morning and I was sat on the bog when I heard the news. I remember thinking that, all things considered, it was perhaps the best thing that could have happened. I was convinced then as I am still, that had she lived, she would have brought the monarchy down. You only need to look at the effect she still has to see the truth of that observation.
I know that it is still not fashionable to hold such views and I am regularly criticised for voicing them. But nothing I have heard in the intervening years has changed my opinion. She was the wrong person in the wrong position.
I agree that the manner of her death was horrific. No-one should have to die that way. But, like Teeleaf, I found the hysteria distasteful, morbid and embarrasing. Earl Spencer's speech showed a disgraceful lack of respect for his sister, her children and the person and dignity of The Queen. Elton John's song is the sort of response to be expected from tired old queens with more money than taste.

mrskitty 03-05-2004 11:37

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I used to stay with my grandparents at the weekend, and my grandad is a vicar so when i got up for church he bought me in a cupa and told me the news.The whole congregation were distraught at the 10 o' clock service and we had a book at the back that anyone could sign.I stayed in the church all day with my grandad cos people just kept comin in to sign it and to offer prayers, a very weird weekend that was too. Then with Mother Theresa passing away not long after we did the same.
Horrible thinking about it.

boosgirl 03-05-2004 12:14

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Don't know when this question was asked but, I was in bed on the Sunday morning when the phone rang. It was a friend of mine from Wales who told me about it. I got up and switched on the tele. I started to cry and, when I told the congregation at my church, no-one seemed to have heard about it. I cried throughout the whole of the service!

Tealeaf 03-05-2004 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
" it was perhaps the best thing that could have happened. I was convinced then as I am still, that had she lived, she would have brought the monarchy down. You only need to look at the effect she still has to see the truth of that observation.
I know that it is still not fashionable to hold such views and I am regularly criticised for voicing them. But nothing I have heard in the intervening years has changed my opinion. She was the wrong person in the wrong position.
I agree that the manner of her death was horrific. No-one should have to die that way. But, like Teeleaf, I found the hysteria distasteful, morbid and embarrasing. Earl Spencer's speech showed a disgraceful lack of respect for his sister, her children and the person and dignity of The Queen. Elton John's song is the sort of response to be expected from tired old queens with more money than taste.

I agree Acrylic. Although I went to see the funeral pocession, it was simply to say "been there & seen it", on the basis that one day I would possibly change my mind about the woman. The intervening years have had the opposite effect. I am convinced more than ever she was no more than a scoundrel and a harlot, financing her shameless affairs with whichever minor celebrity of the week from the public purse. As for her wastrel brother - another serial adulterer - then he should have been arrested on the spot and charged with conspiracy and high treason. Of course, nothing could happen because of the beying mob outside. Worse of all, of course, was that we the taxpayer had to pay for this monsterous farrago.

God Save the Queen.

damers 07-05-2004 16:45

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I had just walked in from Manchester Airport, as I had been on holiday in Spain. The news broke that Dodi was dead, and Diana was critical but alive. Then I went to bed, and woke up the next morning and she was dead. Was a bit shocked but its one of those things. Must admit the funeral was a bit upsetting but only because of the way it was. I think the funeral upset people more than the fact it was Diana's.

Ding 23-05-2004 12:24

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I was at a friends place, just after a lunchtime BBQ, washing up, when they told me that on the news Diana had passed away. I will never forget the shock of it personally, and thought to myself.."what a waste of an influential person who had the unique ability to make a difference in this world."

Ding 23-05-2004 12:25

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Must say, that I am now the proud owner of 14 collector Diana Plates, all of which hold pride of place, in turn, on my loungeroom walls.

Mik Dickinson 10-06-2004 16:42

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We had just got back from England the day before.We drove over and i was the first up.My 2 girls got up and told their mum that daddy was crying.Wife got up to come and see what was going on and ended up crying along with me.
She was a special women and i do believe i will never forget her as long as i live.I still believe she was gotten rid of, but well some people believe that Elvis is still alive.We all have our dreams

pendy 10-08-2004 12:51

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A late response, but then I'm a new girl at AccyWeb.

This is one where I can't agree with Tealeaf (although my partner does). My daughter worked for Prince Charles as a polo groom and met Diana lots of times. Catie says she was friendly, charming, and loved chatting to the girls. She could always remember who was going out with who, and was very much a nice normal girl. One of my friends was at the funeral, because she was on Diana's Christmas card list, and she thought a lot of her. It does seem that people who knew her have a different slant ...

However, as for memorials, the only two foreigners' memorials in Cuba are Princess Diana Park, and John Lennon Square. Both very big in Cuba, for some reason.

Mik Dickinson 10-08-2004 17:18

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Cannot agree with that Tealeaf.As for the Royal Family well, i have never been a Royalist and as far as i am concerned there should not be one anymore.Totally uncalled for in this day and age.Abolish them , and as for Charles, well leaving Dianna for somébody who is about as good looking and has a mouth on her like the Donkey in Shrek well what more can i say

Tealeaf 10-08-2004 17:21

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I can understand your viewpoint, Mik.....afterall, you guys abolished their cousins, the German Royal Family.....what was the name of the little fella with the 'tash who replaced them?

pendy 10-08-2004 17:23

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Well, he's no oil painting, is he. Quite agree about RF, they should all work for a living, just to find out what it's like. Got a soft spot for Queenie, so they could retire her to her little house in Bowland Forest, she's old enough to retire, surely. Just don't give any of them a job where brains count for much.

Mik Dickinson 10-08-2004 17:26

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His name was Adolf, T. and as history says he was Austrian.By the way i am English just do not agree with the Royal Family.The only one i liked was Dianna al the rest can ************* as far as i am concerned

JohnW 10-08-2004 17:34

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I agree with A-Bob and Tealeaf. It is not right to speak ill of the dead I know, but far from being the saint she was portrayed as, she was obviously a woman of easy virtue. That's about as kind as I can put it. I have always been a Royalist and I think that the monarchy is a great tourist attraction. If you want Accrington to become a centre of tourism, I would suggest you persuade H.M. to come and build a country house somewhere in the borough. You'll get more tourists than you want. There aren't all that many Kingdoms left in the world, and it is a goodly part of what makes England unique. Tourists certainly don't visit for the sunshine. As for the remark about Charles' lady friend; beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When you love someone, it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks she looks like. However, I do think it was unfair of him to marry Di when he was so obviously enamoured with someone else.

Tealeaf 10-08-2004 17:36

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So the germans get rid of their royal family and import an Austrian to be president? Was it a success? Are you saying we should do the same?

pendy 10-08-2004 17:36

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Why not? When we ran out of English kings and queens, we imported German ones. Where's the difference?

Tealeaf 10-08-2004 17:37

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Di was a slapper. End of story.

Mik Dickinson 10-08-2004 18:00

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And Prince Phillip is a bloody saint or what

Tealeaf 11-08-2004 16:43

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Originally Posted by Mik Dickinson
And Prince Phillip is a bloody saint or what

A great man. One of my heroes.

Mik Dickinson 11-08-2004 17:25

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Come on T he spreads it about more than Flora

accyplus 11-08-2004 17:56

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I was snoring my bloody head off.

Ceejache 11-08-2004 18:01

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In WWII (especially the Blitz) the Royal Family (especially the Queen Mother) were excellent in keeping morale high - the country is a different place now and their importance to the public has wilted.

The only decent thing about the monarchy is the tourist trade though isnt it? I really cant think of any other practical function they fulfill. Ambassadors for the country? When you've got Prince 'Dont stay too long you'll get slitty eyes' Phillip representing the country then we might as well send Bernard Manning. Prince Charles wants to be a tampon (remember that one?!) and Prince Edward minces around like a Windsor Frank Spencer. The only decent ones are Princes Harry and William - and thats due to the common touch that their late mother instilled into them.

I say keep the Royal Family (purely for tourism) but get rid of the parasites.

To say that Diana was a lady of easy virtue is a bit harsh - in the seven years of separation I can only think of three relationships - Carling, that arsehole Hewitt and al-Fayed. I'd hardly call that promiscuous, and dont forget that maintaining any long term relationship when you are the most photographed person in the world cant be the easiest thing in the world.

The outpouring of grief at the time of her death was, in hindsight, quite embarassing - I too went to the funeral, sleeping overnight outside Westminster Abbey (I lived in Guildford at the time) and the sight of people huddled together holding candles listening to a ghetto-blaster churning out 'Candle in the Wind' on repeat was absolutely pathetically sick-making. It was an experience I wouldn't have missed however, there wont ever be anything like that in our lifetime or that of our children, and I got interviewed by ABC American radio too but the interviewer couldnt understand a word that came out of my East Lancs mouth!

Mik Dickinson 11-08-2004 19:19

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She was in my eyes the only Royal that was close to the people and seemed to listen.If that was not the case tehn why the uproar when they refused to fly the flag at half mast.It was the pressur from the people that brought the Royal family to teir senses.

Lampman 15-08-2004 13:45

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I was working on the National Newspapers,various stories were plated,
Di in crash,unhurt.
Di in crash serious injury.
And finally the sad news that she had died.

grego 16-08-2004 21:18

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I was in bed, been out the night before and didn't switch the tv on till lunchtime, watched the coverage for about 20 minutes before realising she'd died, felt sorry for the boys, they'd lost their Mum at the end of the day.

vorlon24 02-12-2004 10:47

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We were on holiday in Turkey, and found out at around 8am local time (6am UK time) that she had died.

We didn't have access to tv in our room, so we heard from the other residents. Initially we thought they were joking, but you should have seen the restaurants and tavernas. Every single one with a TV was packed out - the only place we could get something to eat was one without a TV as they were deserted.

Obviously you feel bad for the family, but I feel that the coverage was well over the top - there are plenty of other people who do very good work for various charities who die before their time, and if they're lucky, they might get a few lines in the local rag.

Acrylic-bob 07-12-2004 10:33

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Thinking about this matter further and with the added hindsight of six months since my last post on the subject, I find that my attitude has, if anything, hardened.

Following recent revelations of what can only be described as serial adultery, "I wanted to run away with my bodyguard", and all the rest of the sordid performance. I have to say we are well shot of her.

As to her legacy, what is there to say...people still die of AIDS, Kids are still blown apart by landmines - plus ca change, plus la meme chose.

On the other hand, thousands of our children still take part in the Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme and are better people for it. Thousands of young adults from deprived backgrounds are still assisted to improve their lives by the Prince's Trust.

Prince Phillip is, as far as I am concerned, a National Treasure. Taking all the moral flak for saying in public what we all think in private.

The Queen is...well, The Queen. The only person in this country (or the world for that matter) who may command my loyalty and respect by right.

Prince Charles is much maligned, occupies a difficult position, and displays a level of caring that goes far beyond the facile, touchy-feely, eye for the camera, type displayed by his late wife. When the time comes, I will be proud to acknowlege him as King. His personal relationships are, properly, a matter for him and his conscience and should be no one elses business but his.

As far as The Prince of Wales' children are concerned, they are still too young to merit comment.

Darby 07-12-2004 11:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob
Thinking about this matter further and with the added hindsight of six months since my last post on the subject, I find that my attitude has, if anything, hardened.

Following recent revelations of what can only be described as serial adultery, "I wanted to run away with my bodyguard", and all the rest of the sordid performance. I have to say we are well shot of her.

As to her legacy, what is there to say...people still die of AIDS, Kids are still blown apart by landmines - plus ca change, plus la meme chose.

On the other hand, thousands of our children still take part in the Duke of Edinburgh's Award Scheme and are better people for it. Thousands of young adults from deprived backgrounds are still assisted to improve their lives by the Prince's Trust.

Prince Phillip is, as far as I am concerned, a National Treasure. Taking all the moral flak for saying in public what we all think in private.

The Queen is...well, The Queen. The only person in this country (or the world for that matter) who may command my loyalty and respect by right.

Prince Charles is much maligned, occupies a difficult position, and displays a level of caring that goes far beyond the facile, touchy-feely, eye for the camera, type displayed by his late wife. When the time comes, I will be proud to acknowlege him as King. His personal relationships are, properly, a matter for him and his conscience and should be no one elses business but his.

As far as The Prince of Wales' children are concerned, they are still too young to merit comment.

A bit harsh A-Bob.....

even assuming the press stories are anywhere near the truth.

Personally, I do not believe the press............especially when it comes to dirt!! And against those who are no longer with us and cannot answer back!

My mate (lives near Victoria Hospital and served with Charlie in the Navy) says that: "he (Charlie) is so divorced from reality, that he has difficulty in identifying his left and right shoes - especially when he's not wearing them".

But that's one mans opinion!!

Acrylic-bob 07-12-2004 11:52

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I too have difficulty with the concept of Left and Right, but that doesn't make me any more or less human. And I would imagine that being brought up in a similar manner to the Prince of Wales would significantly affect my world view, as would being brought up as a Communist or a Catholic or an Australian Aborigine.

Mik Dickinson 07-12-2004 13:15

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I must disagree on this matter Bob.I still believe that she was done away with.In this day and age i disagree totally with the idea of monarchy and feel it should be abolished.If howvever Charles will be king then surely his behaviour must be one of impeccability? Setting an example for us all? I feel it has not and after Diannas death? Well i feel the ' family' totally mishandled the whole situation.

vorlon24 07-12-2004 13:19

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And it wasn't just her, by all accounts.

Seems like the chap she fell 'deeply in love with' (her words) was popped off as well...

Darby 07-12-2004 13:47

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Sorry A-bob, I didn't make my point clear enough. IT was "do you believe all this stuff in the press and media"? You can make smoke without a fire!!

Acrylic-bob 07-12-2004 14:06

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I'm not entirely convinced by all this conspiracy theory malarky. It would be interesting if it were true and I concede that there are many reasons why it might be desireable. But if it were true and it got out, can you imagine the reaction. No, absolute secrecy cannot be guaranteed in this day and age when every cook and bottle washer with an axe to grind is prepared to tell all to the papers. Besides, the principals in the drama, if it ever came out, stand to loose too much.

>>If howvever Charles will be king then surely his behaviour must be one of impeccability? Setting an example for us all? I feel it has not and after Diannas death? Well i feel the ' family' totally mishandled the whole situation.>>

I agree that we should expect the highest standards of behaviour from members of the Royal Family. But in an age when propriety is an old fashioned concept, and The Queen's exercise of it gives rise to howls of criticism, how are they to divine the public mood? And what is it exactly that Prince Charles has done that is so wrong? He entered into an arranged marriage for the sake of the dynasty. Royal personages have been doing that for thousands of years. He followed his heart and maintained a mistress - nothing unusual in that either. Hundreds of thousands of men in this country do exactly the same thing.

That pillar of Royal and Imperial rectitude, Queen Victoria, maintained deeply personal relationships with, at least, two of her servants following Prince Albert's death. Relationships which caused the gravest concern in court and government circles at the time. But no one suggested, or even thought, that because of them she was unfit to rule.

Is the problem with Prince Charles and his relationship with Mrs Parker-Bowles not more to do with the fact that he had the temerity to ruin the fantasy of the perfect fairy tale royal marriage, and having done that, declined to appear in public in sackcloth and ashes?

Darby 07-12-2004 14:25

Re: where was you when you found out dianna had died.
 
It's not the particularities of Charlie that I find so crass. It's the way the media purport to have a (dirty) story, and how it creeps out of the woodwork at certain times. And how Diana now turns out to be (if you believe the press) a virtual nymphomanic with manic tendencies.

According to the media, she had been through half the staff of Buck Pall, the Police Force and the Royal Navy, and that Harry's father is questionable. How do you think this nonsense affects the 2 Princes?

Public eye?? Media mania more like...I never give this dross a first look, never mind a second one

Anyway, whatever I think about Charlie or the Queen will have absolutely no effect on what happens to the crown and to our monarchy, nor should it!

Acrylic-bob 07-12-2004 16:20

Re: where was you when you found out dianna had died.
 
The sad truth of the matter is that all too many of us pay more attention to gossip and scandalmongers rather than think for ourselves. It was the media which created "the Queen of Hearts" and it is the very same media which hounded her to her death and now is actively engaged in destroying what is left of her reputation. There is a lesson to be learned here from the Queen's attitude to the media; "When you sup with the devil, use a long spoon"


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