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The last time i saw this chap was a few years back now, playing with the Accy Rockers one night at the Pop club!


Best Regards - Taggy

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Anybody recall a teenage group who went by the name of 'The Warriers'. They were a group of teeny-boppers who were a hit with the girls in the 1960's. I recall them supporting 'Lennie and the TeenBeats' at Great Harwood's Mercer Hall one St Paddies Day, along with a traditional danceband for the oldies. I also saw them quite frequently at Accy Con. Those really were the days!!!

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ya don't mean the "Warriors" johnny andersons old group do you stumped?

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one photo!

Atarah

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We've actualy dicussed this before cashy, they did start as a ten bopper group before Jon and Tony became involved, but there were two brother Tony and Ian Alveston, Tony was my mate and I travelled round with them when we were still at school, but can't ever remember them playing Accy Con, Tony is a member on here but haven't seen him post.

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yeh i remember, don't think stumped was a member then? cos i'm blowed if i could find the thread.:)

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Ian's still around too, but hav'nt seen him for several months.


Best Regards - Taggy

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i think between us, we saw a lot of bands
up accy con but i cant recall the Warriors ever gigging there
:theband:

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The last time I heard Ian was living up Green Haworth, but I haven't seen him for years, Ian is probable one of the best local guitarists I've ever seen, he used to use lots of Jazz cords brilliant

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I saw lots of Bands up the Con Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders, Hermans Hermits, Four Pennies, or the Lionel Morton Four as they were known then, but the Warriors na

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Think he may still pop up the Stanley Street Pub occasionally on the Monday Jam nights, but i've not been up there for a while now, good guitarist, as you say! I was driving back from Ossy one night last year, and i switched on the radio and there was a programme on which i think was for local musicians, the presenter said they were going to play a track from Ian's latest CD, so he must have recorded something around that time, but i did'nt get to hear it. Have a feeling it was for a Charity, but not certain.


Best Regards - Taggy

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Think he's done one or two over the years Taggy seem to remember my mate Pete Crook who playes with Accy Rockers telling me about some CDs Ian had made

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Taggy, have just Googled Ian Alveston, 848 hits, the first one is a U-tube link, looks like the lad has a real following worth a shufty

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Hey, bringing back the memories that, just had a look at couple of those links...could'nt get on his website though! He also used to pop up St Mary's Club on Folk Nights, but i dont think they have them there anymore!


Best Regards - Taggy

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I saw the Warriers at the Con during a private function. They were very young at the time and, although good, fluffed some of the guitar sequences. When I saw them some months later at Great Harwood's Mercer Hall they were terrific.

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ah thats why no-one remembers stumped, would that be before or after the "Anderson" brothers joined em?:)

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When Tony and Ian left the Warriors, they formed another group called Tony and the Tea Leafs, so um perform at Spring Hill on a Saturday night, but they didn't carry on long after that:rolleyes:

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The honest answer to that would be "Dunno!" The occasion at the Con would have been around 1965/6 though if that's any help?

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Tony and Ian Alveston left the warriors in 1962, when Jon and Tony Anderson took over, Jon left the group in 1967 to follow a solo career before joining Yes, Not sure but think Jon made to records under the name of Hans Christian Anderson but can't remember much about them

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No I dont think Nosmo Kings where pre Jay Turner Four. The only connection as I can remember may have been Noel Smith (drummer with the Jay Turner Four) whom I think at one time did play for the Nosmo Kings. The Nosmo Kings if I remember correctly where managed for most of the time by Lennie Herbert from Great Harwood, who regular had them on at the Mercer Hall and can remember them supporting a Lennie Herbert promotion with headliners Nero & The Gladiators. Also the lead singer with the Nosmos(for a long number of years was very pally with the jay Turner Four and I think he did one or two guest spots, so I can see where there maybe a little confusion.

The Vidors became the Dynamites, The Dynamites became the Jay Turner Four, The Jay Turner Four became the James Turner Four and the James Turner Four became Second Time Around. This band spanned (the band spanned over 20 plus years with varying members) but the long term main players where: Gerard Navin (lead) John Tillotson (Bass) Ronnie Green (Rhythm & Vocals) Noel Smith (Drums) Vocalist: The late James Turner, The late Billy Kerr. also: John Turner Drums

Beejay (Agent/Manager)

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good heads up that beejay,cheers, although don't think they were local can remember seeing "nero @ Gladiators" god knows where?.:)

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The guy I'm thinking of who was lead vocals and brilliant with Nosmo's was Pete Hibbert and the group which where pre Nosmos was Mark Day & The Nights managed by Lennie Herbert.

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Also if your interested click on this site (or paste into browser) and it should show a old photo of the Soundcasters, plus other stuff if you look for it on the tabs eg: Rev Black & Rockin Vicars, The Swinging Hangmen from Haslingden plus plus plus Accrington Arts, Con Club etc... Do you remember the Cavern on Milnshaw Lane? was run with a ex Bolton Wanderers Footballer, remember John Lee Hooker here plus loads of other bluesy type acts. The Swinging Hangmen appeared here once or twice. Country Gents always on at the Accy Con..

The Soundcasters on Manchesterbeat - the group and music scene of Manchester in the 60's

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I think Lennie Herbert was also a singer with Lennie and the Teen Beats, but not sure, the last I heard Lennie was con sec a the Pop Club and still lives in Ossy

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Lots of good nights at Con club so Lionel Morton 4 later to become The four pennies i think they had a big hit with Juliet.

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they actually had 6 chart hits, Juliet being there only No1.:) two more top 20, other3 top 50.

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Think one of their other top 20 hits was Black Girl, which would have had far more connertations today with that title:rolleyes:

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correct n another was "I Found Out The Hard Way" which will have connertations to a certain young student someday i reckon.:D

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First release as I remember was Do You Want Me To,I may be wrong but I doubt it.
Never made it big but did chart.:theband:

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correct it charted twice jan64 n feb 64 both times 1 week only.

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Was Lennie also a drummer and i think he worked at English Electric

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Can't remember him playing the drums MB may have done, didn't know where he worked

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I believe Lennie Herbert worked as a progress chaser at English Electric. Was certainly there during the 1960/70's. He was also a Special Constable in Accrington for a good many years. Nice chap.

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not sure about the "Special" i was never arrested by a part-timer.:D

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Ya they had a full time job keeping tabs on you cashy:D:D

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Yes,I remember Kris Ryan and the Questions.A friend of mine called Geoff Wills played drums.Kris went into computers in their early days,sold out to some company and became a millionare.The guitarist,Alan Kendall went on to play with the Bee Gees and made a fortune.

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Was Chris Ryan his real name,

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Just looked on Manchester Beat, Real name Tony Holgate.

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Just read in todays Observer, "John Cunliffe" died suddenly on May 16th in Indonesia, was a shock to me i must be getting near top o the list.:eek: R.I.P. Cunny.

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Thats very sad cashy

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seem to remember mick macks brother george
was in a group with john way back.Dansaks..i think

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Micks brother aint one of them beechy, theres a great photo just bin put in gallery by ozzyroma,

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george must have drummed later
unless my brain cells are failing

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quite possible, will try find out next week.:);)

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I remember a local group in the 60's..one of the guitarist's was Nicholas Murphy, he had blonde hair and was married to my friend Joan, she sang with the group, I remember she used to sing Brenda Lee's 'Sweet nothins'.... they had two children, Andrew Murphy and Lisa Murphy, both would be in their 40's now..Joan and Nicholas divorced in the 70's.:theband:

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would that be the group that used to sing "Zip A Dee Doo Dah"? remember them the lass singer was wed to one of the group, a guy wi glasses i think?:)

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Hi Cashy, I can't remember Nicholas wearing glasses, but they could well have sung the song you mention....they played in working men's clubs and pubs around Accy..early/mid 60's, they lived right next door to a working men's club in one of the roads running parallel with Avenue Parade.... could have been water street:confused::)

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Perhaps a differant group wi members wed ?? saw em one night in King St Club, was well oiled at the time, still see the lass singer shopping in accy occasionally.the glasses the guy had on were black, like "Buddy Holly" wore, thats how i remember, maybe he just wore em fer effect on stage?:confused:

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and for those under the age of 50 there was (and is) streetfighter,oxym,the itch,spy vs spy,the cybermen,the exis,scoolgirlbitch,the stanleys and i few more i`ve seen and forgotten.:theband:

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Never done this before, but I was just having a quick browse and spotted your brief summary of the Soundcasters. Don't know who you are, but just thought I would join in. You were spot on with the names etc., but it would be nice to know who you are. If anyone needs any info or photographs of the Soundcasters, let me know. When we split up in 1969, nobody carried on in music, 'cept me, and I'm still at it - must be mad!
Nice to catch up.
Tony Cooper

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yeh scoot but threads 60s accy groups, n under 50s wont remember em, may be worth startin yer own thread fer them;)

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you were bass guitar tony? was probably wynonie that mentioned em, a pic on here would be nice.:) have seen the pics taken shildon hall i think it was 62 ish, but many on here won't have.

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'ow do Nooper, have a look at your write up on Manchesterbeat.

The Soundcasters on Manchesterbeat - the group and music scene of Manchester in the '60s

Remember? ;)

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Aye - was def in the Dansaks.... they even cut a demo disc..... think Bro-in-Law has it

Mick

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Cheers Mick, musta bin the guy wi the better drumkit, Mike told me about.:);):theband:

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ooooops ! misread title. tho` going back to an earlier posting mentioning the james boys,i`m sure my mates dad,george stalker, was one of them. i can remember him playing me an acetate of a song he (they) recorded.

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dublomad. No, I was the guy up front doing the vocals. We started out when I was 13 in '63. I was the singer, Dave Hull was on drums, his brother Gary on rhythm, Maurice Blezzard on bass and Glen Ainsworth on lead. We stuck it out till '69, with Me, Dave and Maurice the only originals. I'd put some photos on, but haven't quite figured it out yet, may have to get help from a son or two!!

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[quote=Wynonie Harris;820826]'ow do Nooper, have a look at your write up on Manchesterbeat.

The Soundcasters on Manchesterbeat - the group and music scene of Manchester in the '60s

Remember? ;)[/quote Hi Steve, thought it might be you. Yes I did see the Manchesterbeat picture but can't find it anymore. Turned 60 in March and me, my brother Phil, and mate Mick from our old band Kyte, got together for a bit of a jam at the Bay Horse in Bash. We enjoyed it so much, we roped in Glen, our old drummer and it looks like we may be back on the road again!! We were conned into doing a Saturday night freebie at Bash Con on 10th July - nothing like ready, but there is an old saying about it'll be alright on the night, or not as the case may be. Problem is we're too old to remember stuff anymore! Oh, by the way, we're going on as the Soundcasters. First time in 41 years!
Hope all is well at your end Steve, thought you may have gone back to - - - was it Lanzarote?
If you're passing Steve, drop us a line and we can catch up.
All the best
Tony

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hey dublomad remind me nearer time of yer gig please, aint bin up bash con fer oer 14 years, since i used to do "Dog and Partridge" me n my better half will pop by.:);) doubt if steve will be able to get oer.

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[quote=dublomad;821229]Great to hear, you're back on the road, Tony! Old rock 'n' rollers never die. As Cashy says, doubt I'll be able to make it to the Bash Con, gig but I'm sure I'll receive a full report on it!

Lanzarote? I should be so lucky! Sunny Stockport more like! ;)

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Hi Cashy. Can't remember the words or chords anymore, but I'll try to remember to stick a reminder on, a few days before the Bash con gig. Pity Steve can't make it.

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Yeh can put a thread up on "nighttlife,events, daysout" a few days before if ya want mate.;) may just entice a few more of these reprabates on here, ya never know.:D

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That's no way to introduce the Ladies and Gentlemen of Accrington Web to a new Member Cash:D

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Seem to remember seeing kyte the group on three occasions twice in rishton first the now closed down legion club and then on another occasion the free gardeners on parker street also someones birthday bash at the baxenden golf club quite a few years ago though

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[quote=keith;821670]Seem to remember seeing kyte the group on three occasions twice in rishton first the now closed down legion club and then on another occasion the free gardeners on parker street also someones birthday bash at the baxenden golf club quite a few years ago though[/quote Sounds about right Keith, it woulkd be in the early days at Rishton free gardeners, around '86/'87, if memory serves me right, the Bash golf club do was probably around ;90/;91. We also did a Saturday afternoon gig on tha Oxo Carnival float!!!!]

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Hows this got from 60s groups to 80s and 90s groups:mad:

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Another local 60s group was the "Cyclones" did a tour of europe somewhere, still see the bass guitarist pretty regular. M.S. :)

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me memories vague about the Cyclones, perhaps Alan Gilmartin can add to this,as i know he knew some of em, or maybe Tony our new lad remembers or the soundcasters played wi em?:)

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I do remember the name Cyclones cashy, but I think they were phasing out when we were getting started, around '64. If I can dig out all my photos and stuff, there might be some more groups we used to play with.
No-one's mentioned Gideons Ways, who I think were post Scorchers. Apart from the Dansaks and Soundcasters, they were probably the other major band of the time.

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Sorry Jaysay, the Soundcasters progressd into Kyte, just answering a querie. Unfortunately even the 80's and 90's seem a long time ago now!!

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Your okay, but why not start a new thread and blather to your hearts content:D

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would be 66, by all accounts when they disbanded, was just after they returned from france, or so the boss tells me.:D

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Ask Mick when you see him Cashy, ask him who were the guys in the group,and if he has any photos, still got to write to him yet. Dublomad your right the scorchers were one of the major groups at that time, they play at the Cavern once, Dave Robinson, trevor Gardener, Jim Payne, dave Ayrton was the manager, roadie,

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Was Trevor Gardener the Drummer Alan?

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Jim Payne was the drummer, Jaysay. He went on to play in a whole series of pro bands, including the legendary Accy supergroup, Accrington Stanley. Been talked about on here a few times.

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Thanks Wny, just remember the chap I was thinking about was called Trevor Cunliffe he's my age knocked bout with him in the sixties and he's still drumming today, used to practice in Ossy Con with a group called Tatters

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Jaysay...was the Trevor Cunliffe you mention a really big bloke??...If so i'm afraid he died some years back, he went to Germany to live and Play, and passed away over there....i never saw him, but my ex-wife was related to him, and said he was a brilliant drummer!

Best Regards - Taggy

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right Al, just bumped into Mick in town original Cyclones were= Ian Spencer- Lead guitar, Mick Stirzaker- Bass, Paul Curtis- Vocals, Stephen Farnsworth - Drums, have sent ya a P.M. wi somemore stuff.;)

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Na he's still going strong Taggy, he used to have the car sales place opposite the side entrance of the old cop shop on Spring Gardens, in the sixties he was a dead ringer for Bobby Vee

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Must be a different Trevor Cunliffe then Jaysay....thankfully! Coincidence 2 drummers wi same name from Accy!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Trevor Cunliffe (think his wifes name is Val ) is a friend of my brothers Peter & Kevin, also jaysay, Trevor Gardener was the lead guitarist in the Scorchers, If Jim Payne reads this thread, can you tell us Jim a little of how the Scorchers got to play at the Cavern, Im sure a lot of us on here will be very interested. I was there on that day. Plus there must be a photo somewhere.

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the cds are on there way al, from the 16 yrs old cyclones.:D

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Gideons Way photo

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Do you have any names for the picture Atarah?

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Know Jim, Dave & Trevor, but what was the name of the tall skinny rythm guitarist, the singer had a sister I tookout a couple of times.

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Rythym guitar. Methinks he was called Ian Smith. Not sure about a sister, though.

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Yea thats it, Ian Smith, But I ment the singers name and sister, hes the one with the maracas, think he went to St Christiphers. Pity Trevor Gardener or Dave Robinson dont contribute, I believe they still live in the area, I know Dave Ayrton the manager & roadie at the time Lives in Grindleton. Maybe somebody knows them.

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lennie herbert booked them at mercer hall gt harwood for only £75-00 approx 1960. They were top of the hit parade with the hall of the mountain king the same week.

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this name only lasted a short while as it could not be registered due to the comedian nosmo king.... It followed on from lennie and the teenbeats and changed to mark day and the knights.
Several chanes over a number of years to the line ups but included; david tomlinson, tony thornton, lennie herbert, vinny shaw, pete hibbert noel smith, jimmy forshaw etc etc..

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theres a name from the past. is Jimmy Forshaw still batting? last i heard was mid 90s.

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lennie herbert is in oswaldtwistle, tony thornton in carlisle, vinny shaw in new zealand, peter hibbert in accrington regretfully noel passed away about a year ago and pete is very ill. This all started at knowlememre st in the 50s with lennies arcadian combo playing skiifle with washboard (jimmy aspen clayton le moors) jim graham (now in france) on teachest bass lennie on drums dave and tony guitars pete as singer. Made first recordings at romers studio in rishton.

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not seen jimmy for a while was living at rising bridge hes an electrician with his own business!!

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Remember Mark Day and the Nights, could Lennie of Lennie and the Teen Beats be your good self LENNIE:D

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Hello to you all, just stumbled across this website by accident, glad I did.Scorchers won a schools group competition in Penwortham,this was judged by The Cavern's owner & Bob Wooller- Beatles 1st manager, -the prize to play at The Cavern.I left The Scorchers who were then called Gideon's Way to play with Wami,Tony Anderson was the vocalist.Dave Robinson lives in Stratford, talk to him occasionally,Ian Smith lives in Bolton-by-Bowland not in contact. Derek Rimmington who was vocalist in Gideon's(holding Maraccas"s in photo)sadly Derek died quite a few years ago,Jim Payne not in contact with. I still play with a 60's type band occasionally, Pete Hibbert was the vocalist,but unfortunately he's had to retire with bad health, very sad really his voice still sounded so good,very powerfull,he's been to watch us play though. Hope I've helped to answer some of your question's. All the Best Trev Gardner.

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heard tony anderson was living isle of wight these days.

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Yes I think Tony's lived there long time, Wami used to be in contact, don't know now as he's living in Spain now. Trev.

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yep wammys benidorm way.;)

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Yeah Tony been there many years now since he found Religeon!...Dont no if Dave (Wammy) still speaks to him or not, they were together in the reformed Los Bravos in Mallorca some years back..he still talks of him quite a bit!...I'm off to Beni in sept, so i'll ask him then!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Which band do you play with now Trevor?...Put some dates up on here if your doing any local gigs, i'd like to come along!...I've not seen Pete for more than 18 months now...maybe 2 years...as you say, he's not well, he wasn't when i saw him, in fact last time i saw him was at one of Wammys gigs just before he moved permanently to Spain..he came along with his missus and Tommy Franks!

Best REgards - Taggy