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did hear the scorchers were called red hot ray and the scorchers
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Hi Trev, The only thing that I remember about that gig is that my drums sounded awful.I don't think I'd ever played outside in a park before, but it was fun! (still no cymbals).
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Shame that this photo of the Francis T Construction is so blurred, but here goes, left to right : Kevin Florentine, Stewart Howlett, Susan? Bob Taylor, Tom Robinson, unknown, Lynne Whittaker, Jim Payne, unknown, unknown.Taken after a gig at The Greyhound.
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Hi Jaysay,Thanks for that, I've wondered for years who he was.He used to hang around with us a lot, always seemed to wear a black shirt.Another guy who used to be a regular with us was called Derek Salmon, a complete nutter who used to ride a motor bike around Accy at incredible speeds.He lived in Slaidburn Drive.
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You have a very good memory jasay,that's the guy,I remember him going down Willows Lane on an Ariel Square Four when I was on my way to school, at what seemed to be about 70 mph, no traffic back then.He was a bit older than me, maybe 3/4 years.Thanks,James.
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Hello Trev, Do you remember this gig at the Majestic ballroom in 1965.My mum found this old ad from the Accy Observer.I always loved playing there, I always got a great drum sound in that place, must be the design of those old ballrooms,the Astoria in Rawtenstall was the same.I also remember playing there with The Nasville Teens, The Pretty Things, and a strange American band called The Sir Douglas Quintet, they had one hit single called, "She's About a Mover".James.
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Looking at some of these photo's from the old days, reminded me of the good old Vox AC30 amps, what a great machine in their day, was watching some group on Sky Arts the other week, recorded quite recently and they had a bank of what looked like AC30s. And I bet you can all remember the good old Watkins Copy Cat echo chamber, which were great until the bloody tape broke:D
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Hi Dublomad,I can't remember if The Scorchers or The Gids ever played at Nelson Imp and neither Trevor nor myself can remember when we split up.I do know that in 1968/69 I was playing in a few bands from Burnley like The Atlantics, Kudos, The Reflections etc trying to make some extra money.I played at Nelson Imp many times with some of those bands, which in some cases only lasted a few months.There were loads of us, So on and So Forth, Ways N' Means, The Uptown Go Go Band, The Raging Storms, supporting The Troggs, Manfred Man, Love Affair, Robert Plant's Band of Joy (the first time I saw John Bonham), and a few more.I've attached a photo of The Atlantics.The guy 2 nd from the left (Pete Sowrey) actually played with Accrington Stanley for a very short time.We also played at Manchester University a lot, it was great money, getting £30 for supporting Chicken Shack wasn't bad in 1969, we also supported The Who there a few weeks later for the same money.As you can see from the ad, you could see Pink Floyd or The Who and many more for 7/6d! Hope that helps,James.
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I think we were support band for The Yardbirds at Nelson Imp,it seems to ring a bell it's a long time ago "init" !! Trev.
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Jim, talking of The Atlantics I wonder what happened to the bass player Andy?
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Hi Trev,I don't know what happened to Andy Russell.John, the guitarist (on the left) got married to a girl he met when we were playing the Excel Bowl in Leeds, Colin Edmondson, the singer in the middle died when he was around 50, and, as you know, Pete played with Accy Stan for a short time (5/7 weeks?).
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Love reading these posts, does anyone have any photos of the Dappers or Sundowners, Dappers played Accy Cavern a few times, my cousin Billy ( Bean ) Drinkwater, was the singer.
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Is it tonight the "gig" at Bash Con. Do you have to be a Member to get in there?
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Hello Tony,Yes, I have it. A guy called Geoff Wills, who used to play drums with Kris Ryan & the Questions told me about it.There's another great book called "It Happened in Manchester", which has hundreds of names of bands who played there from 1958-1965.Even The Scorchers are in there! James.
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This site wouldn't be complete without a picture of "Whammy", so here he is.The photo was taken at The Watermill Theatre in Bagnor, a hamlet near Newbury, one pub, no shops, the bus came once a week, seriously isolated.We lived/rehearsed there for about 5 months.He was playing with Accrington Stanley at the time.I think this band must hold some kind of record for having the most guitarists in the shortest time.The band only lasted 6/7 months, and yet, we had on lead guitar (not all at once) , Trevor Gardener, Rod Hill, Whammy,John Hedley (from Brian Davidsons band, ex The Nice), and finally Roger Mckew (ex Bonzo Dog ).I think that there were only two of us left eventually, Dave Foster, and me.Whammy also sent me a copy of his "new" album which you can also see.Most people in/around Accy will remember Dave.On the Accy Stan photo, left to right, Rod Hill, Jim Payne, Brian Johnstone, Dave Foster, and Whammy.Cheers, James
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Had a great night last night, the group was very good, met Dublomad n Shadow Trev, 2 top geezers, bash con was packed, glad we landed early n got good seats. didn't remember the lads though, its been a long time since "Accy Con":D
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I would just like to add, Paris has just returned to bed, wi a monster hangover,:D still under the impression she could sup what she could 40 yrs ago.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: suppose its worth it, still banging on about what a good night it was.:D
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Yeh! Cashy's right, top night at Bash con, Tony& the boy's did well! love the Eagles tunes, good hamonies lads!! Good to put faces to people you'ved talked to but never met in person. Trev.
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Hi Jim. As you've probably seen, I met Trevor on Saturday night for the first time in 40 odd years, it was good to share some memories. I thought you were perhaps the only Scorcher I would have recognised but when I met Trevor, I think I would have recognised him in the street. I enjoyed the Accrington Stanley photo, as I met Rod when I was about 12 and I used to watch the Warriors practice every week without fail, think that's how I got the bug! I've also seen Whammy (or is it Wammy?) more than few times. The last time I met him in England was at the Dunkenhalgh around '89/90, when I was with Kyte and we were on the same bill together. I have run into him in Spain, but never got to chat with him as we were on our way somewhere and he hadn't finished his set. I'm off to Spain on Sunday and we usually have a night in Benidorm, don't suppose you know which bar he plays in do you? Cheers Tony
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Did any of you lads ever come across an Organist Called Steve Tatton, from Blackburn, never saw him myself but from what I'ver heard he was brilliant, I met Steve in the late 80s as our paths crossed on many occasions in Hospital, he suffered very badly with brittle asthma, sadly Steve is no longer with us, he died about 12 years ago, but he was a top rate guy
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Hello Tony.Sounds like you all had a good time on Sat, not to mention a few beers.Trevor Gardener really enjoyed himself.Glad you like the Accrington Stanley photo.Dave Foster was the "Warrior" that I knew best, we grew up together as kids,we actually lived next door to each other in Downham Drive, Fern Gore.I knew all the family, Carol, Dave and Michael.They were a bit older than me.I played with them once when they were between drummers,before they got Ian Wallace, in a bingo hall in Church.I was 14 years old, Dave was 17 and John was 19, bit of an age difference! But as we all got older it didn't seem to matter too much.You should find Wammy playing five nights a week at "The Rock Palace", it's on the front.There are a few ads around as well, I'm sure you'll find him! I've attached a couple of photos' when we were living at The Watermill Theatre, one of me and Dave Foster, and one of Wammy (it is Wammy, it's me , I keep spelling it wrong), on their way to a rehearsal which was 2 minutes walk! Hope you have a good time, and give Dave a big hug for me.I haven't seen him for nearly 40 years.Best wishes,Jim.
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Jim, I don't know about the technicalities of this, but could you not post a sound file or something of "Days of Men and Women" on here, so people can hear what Accrington Stanley sounded like? On the evidence of this track, it's my view that if they'd carried on, they could've been up there with Yes, Genesis etc as one of the top bands of the early 70's.
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Hi Wynonie,Thanks for your comments about the Accy Stan track "Days of Men and Women".I have it on a mini disc, but I'll see if I can convert it into an mp3.As for uploading it onto the site, I'll have to ask a friend for some help.Glad you like it, Cheers,Jim.
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Hi Taggy,You're right, Wammy is playing at the Heartbreak Hotel, amongst other places.About seven guys from work go over there about two/three times a year to drink as much vodka and red bull as they can manage in a week! (they're only in their early 30's). It's a miracle that they even found him.They enjoyed his set.Cheers,Jim.
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Hello Trev, I never knew that you played with Andy Russell.You also mentioned a sax player called Dave Clark who you also played with.Is this him, the guy standing 2nd from the left? Why am I wearing a wig? Cheers,Jim.
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Hiya T, have you packed your suitcase yet??? Trev
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Glad some one knew Steve, we became great friends in the late 80s early 90s as we spent quite a lot of time together on ward E3 at Queen's Park, I think Claire went back to Liverpool with the kids, I went to his home once, which was just off the arterial road. I was very sad when he died, because he was such a great guy who never moaned about his poor health, just got on with his life the best way he could. The last time I saw him was actually in the chest clinic at the infirmary. Unfortunately I was unable to attend his funeral as I had only been discharged from hospital the day before, but I know lots of the staff from E3 went, he was such a popular bloke and certainly died well before his time |
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Was thinking last night about a guy I worked with in the early 70s at Premier Construction Whiteberk, he played with a band called Angie, can't remember the guys name but they were quite popular on the circuit back then, could have even been a 3 piece rhythm/lead drums and Bass or the standard 4 set up, any one come across them
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Hello Trev, Well, I found the only photo I have of Frany Daly (and that's a miracle), and it's not a good one.It was taken when some of us in Francis T went to Whalley Abbey, left to right, Frany, me, Tom Robinson, Lynne Whittaker and Kathleen, who married Stewart Howlett when I was with Francis T.Most of the band went to the wedding at St James's.The missing members are Bob Taylor (guitar), and a guy called Arthur who played keyboards and ran a Wimpey Bar which was across the road from Accy Town Hall, All the best,Jim.
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Hello Jaysay, To be honest I don't know, there's a picture of him in the other Francis T photo that I put on.He had a girlfriend called Susan (big help) and he was really into cars, I think he had a Mini Cooper which was something back then,Cheers, Jim.
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Hi James, re Whalley Abbey photo. Nice one! Lovely to see the piccy of Lynn. Have just emailed her daughter to tell her about the photo.
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Hi Trevor, I've just found another photo of Frany.Same people, same place.Left to right, me, Frany, Tom Robinson and Lynne Whittaker who was my girlfriend.Do you know where our guitarist, Bob Taylor came from? Was he from Ossy? All the best, Jim.
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Hi Trev, No, never fancied the monastic life.The Francis T just fooled around a lot, ask Fran.
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Someone sent me this CD a few weeks ago, mainly because it features Ernie Lee on Harmonica, Kazoo and lead vocals.Ernie used to hang around with The Francis T a lot, I think he was a good friend of Kevin, Isaac and Tom Robinson etc.He sometimes played his harp with us at The Greyhound.Ernie is the guy standing in the middle, at the back, holding his harp.I always remember Ernie as being a bit wild, and, although I didn't know him that well, I'm sure quite a few people will remember him.The other guys are, Tony Jenkinson, Patt Jenkinson and Chris McKeown, I've no idea if they were local, Cheers, Jim.
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I remember Ernie, he was a few years ahead of me at AGS. Seem to recall he started the "Ernie Lee Blues Band" in the 70's and the Observer did an interview with him. So, Jim, what's the CD like?
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I remember him as well, he probably remembers me, once had n encounter wi him in Accy Vic Casualty.:D
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