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Mancie 02-04-2009 03:03

Linux? Mozilla?
 
Linux is a total nightmare..ubunto loads when it feels like doing and Mozilla is far from the secure exporer some bods make out.. it breaks down after a few weeks.. anyone else had problems with this so called secure alternative to I.E ?

MargaretR 02-04-2009 03:48

Re: Linux? Mozilla?
 
I like Mozila Firefox - you can get add-ons to move your favourites to it, and lots more useful add-ons besides.
When I do virus scans and spyware scans I rarely see anything remotely dangerous that needs removing

Mancie 02-04-2009 04:23

Re: Linux? Mozilla?
 
my firefox has turned into a last resort ..admitted when IE breaks down or gets infected.. but it seems slower than last year and does get hijacked easily

flashy 02-04-2009 06:40

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at the moment i'm using Mozilla and or opera, mozilla can be an arse at times, so when it is i change to opera

Neil 02-04-2009 06:49

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I use Firefox 99% of the time. It is so rare I have to use Firefox now. I think I only use it to look at a camera server that uses an active-x front end. I don't have problems with it. I have more problems with IE at work.

entwisi 02-04-2009 07:10

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Yawn, 0/10, poor attempt at trolling.....

Mancie 02-04-2009 07:35

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lets get things clear.. linux is crap.. it is the last resort because it is limited to caveman operations..it is free at source but is basic ..cheap ..you pay peanuts you get monkeys!

entwisi 02-04-2009 07:43

Re: Linux? Mozilla?
 
thats why the majority of the Internet is run on it,

thats why to IBM its a market projected to be into 100 billion dollars by 2012

thats why it suffers so much from instability, viruses, malware, etc(err, sorry, thats Windows isn't it, I must have been half as confused as you there for a minute).

Mancie 02-04-2009 07:53

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ok ..but personally I relied on Mozilla for about a year and then it collapsed... no way round but to re-installl and then still infected ended up going back to IE..the myth that Firefox is more secure is rubbish...IE may have problems but they can be solved quickly.. unlike Firefox.

entwisi 02-04-2009 08:19

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woo hoo, shot yourself down there mate, Fixing issues in IE? have you ever tried uninstalling IE? At least with Firefox you can

Then there is teh more important issue of flaws in the software itself, My google mojo is letting me down right now but its fully accepted within all areas of this industry that Microsoft time to fix critical errors is way way way behind that of Open Source Software.

shakermaker 02-04-2009 08:21

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Are you working it/them properly?

Mancie 02-04-2009 09:07

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off...don't get all tecno on me... you are saying that linux is more secure and reliable than windows.. but for me it is not....and if I'm not working it proper then it is a problem..I don't want to work it..I want it to work for me!

Roy 02-04-2009 09:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 699430)
if I'm not working it proper then it is a problem..I don't want to work it..I want it to work for me!

I agree entirely with this, and I think you'll find that is the reason a lot of people switch to mac osx. Its got the power of unix for the techies but the main gui just works and without any tweaking or messing about at all. I still use linux, but only for servers. Windows and linux take far to much work for me to use as my everyday workstation.
When I sit down at the computer I want to work, I don't want to work on the computer...

entwisi 02-04-2009 09:48

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now Roy, lets be honest how often do you 'want' to work :D

to be fair, Julie was constantly getting fed up that every time windows updated something broke. so about 4-5 months ago I moved her to Ubuntu. I asked her to tell me if anything ever didn't work for her and up to now she's said nowt. So it must be working for some and BTW, it was an out the box install, All I added was Opera, no messing, me fiddling to fix stuff, bang in CD, 1 hpur later its all working as it should.

Neil 02-04-2009 09:52

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Maybe that is why Hackintosh's are becoming a popular play thing for people without loads of dosh :)

Roy 02-04-2009 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 699465)
Maybe that is why Hackintosh's are becoming a popular play thing for people without loads of dosh :)

But that defeats the point, you've got to faff about to get it to install, then faff about with kexts to get it to work properly, then you can't get updates... etc.etc.. If you want something that just works, I don't think a hackintosh is the answer.

entwisi 02-04-2009 10:37

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but as Neil referred to. Macs are not cheap.........

Roy 02-04-2009 10:47

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Neither is time! The more time people spend tweaking and faffing, in theory adds to the cost of the computer.
If you use computers to make money, you shouldnt mind paying a little more for a robust system which requires minimum faffing! I wouldn't like to imagine the amount of lost time due to windows.

Neil 02-04-2009 10:59

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I agree if you use it to make money Roy. For us plebs at home though we need our PC's to be affordable and reliable. For that the best current option is probably using Linux, if you can make the damn thing work. I have put it on several machines and never had a straight forward install yet.

My netbook is poorly supported - it is quite new so I suppose it is understandable.
Massive problems with a couple of bog standard IBM office PC's at work - ended up sticking a couple of AGP video cards in them.
An older laptop I had would not install out of the box either.

My home PC boots fine with it though with no problems.


My biggest problem though is me and the kids like to kill things with big guns online in our spare time and game support in Linux is pants :D:D

I suspect even less games work with OSX than Linux. Games worth playing that is :)

Mancie 02-04-2009 11:56

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Linux is free.. but windows is free when you by most pc's .. if you just want to use t'internet to get news, yellow pages , chat and stuff why would you go through the hassle of downloading and then working out all the fantastic features linux users claim to be on the OP?...then have to probe the web to get totall bull from linux experts in tech forums?.. you have it man.

beechy 02-04-2009 12:17

Re: Linux? Mozilla?
 
currently my firefox is as slow as a snail had no
problems until recently

Neil 02-04-2009 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 699526)
Linux is free.. but windows is free when you by most pc's ..

Windows is never free, you pay for it in the price of the PC. You can see that when you look at netbooks. If you look at the 12" Dell ones the XP version is £50 more than the Linux one. The only other difference is a slightly bigger hard drive - probably not even £10 extra. The Linux Hard drive is 60Gb and the XP one is 80Gb.

With Linux you don't get all the spyware and virus issues you do with Windows. You don't need the anti this and anti that software so your PC runs faster.

I agree there are still issues with Linux, there are a lot of issues with Windows though. If you buy a new PC with Linux on you wont have any problems.

Neil 02-04-2009 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beechy (Post 699532)
currently my firefox is as slow as a snail had no
problems until recently


Is it Firefox, your web connection, your PC or just the website you are trying to view that is slow? There are a lot of variables when website is slow.

andrewb 03-04-2009 14:35

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I like Linux, far more than Windows, but Mac has it. Only today I discovered an eBay seller application that is absolutely fantastic, blows the Windows alternative out of the water. It goes without saying that security and viruses are little to worry about on OSX. Safari 4 is by far the fastest browser I've used too, even more so than Google Chrome.

churchman phil 03-04-2009 14:38

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I have had no problems with Firefox at all and have been using it since version 1.


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