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I foolishly downloaded Windows 10 , I struggled at first but "coped". My son ( who lives out of town ) went on to my PC played a few games , since then I can only use his password as it has removed all my details , and my printer no longer prints , but yet I can photocopy from it. I am at an absolute loss . When I asked my son what he used , he told me he went into x box live ???????

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Can you do a system restore to a date before your son played on it?

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Has he created his own user profile? If so, and assuming he didn`t delete yours, you can log out of his and back into yours.
How to switch between user accounts in Windows 10

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Ultimate Outsider: Using GWX Control Panel to Permanently Remove the 'Get Windows 10' Icon

I think I may not have to remove the pesky KB 3035583 anymore thanks to the help of another forum member who shone a light on the above program.
I have posted the details so that if any other Accyweb member is getting fed up of this intrusive way of updating(and of Sneaky Microsoft putting stuff on our machines that we neither want or need), they can also read about it and decide whether it is right for them.

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I was told to go into X Box live and sign out , but there is no sign out ????
As reguards the other advice you have given me , I am sorry but I do not understand you. Technology and me do not speak.

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Just had a word with my neighbour who has already spent time on my PC trying to sort it out. She will be popping in later this week to read your advise. Thank you.

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Do you get a screen similar to this when you start up your computer, is this where you enter your sons password?

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exactly the same yes.

Windows 10
 

Is your log in at bottom left? If so, click on it and enter your password.


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What GPICK is saying Greeny. Did you sign into windows with an email address? I no longer do this myself, but I think most people follow the idea that you have to use one(you dont)

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Im thinking same as you. He's signed into windows using his live account which was used for xbox?

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I wasn`t quite thinking that Restless, just think he may have set up his own user account, and default for windows 10 is to ask for password of last account signed into, list of other users is in bottom left corner, just needs clicking on correct user name to sign into that account instead.

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Just had another look at the picture of the screen, mine is the same but I do not have the little names in bottom left corner. I am out bowling in a sec so it will be tomorrow before I can catch up on here , but thanks to you all.

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I think I would be trying a system restore then, hopefully that will put it back as it was.

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What is a system restore please.?

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A system restore takes you computer back to a previous date.
A time before the changes your son made....which seen to have made your machine haywire.
I am not sure how you do this on a windows 10 operating system.....but I can tell you how it is on Windows 7.
I go into the control panel.....I choose Recovery...this brings up a page which tells about a system restore(it will not change any of your files, documents or pictures) it just removes recently installed programs which might account for your problems).
On this page there is a click box to open the system restore.
I will post a couple od screen shots to help clarify what I mean.

If you cannot do this maybe your neighbour could help you, but I would strongly recommend that you sit and watch what she does.... And perhaps get her to show you.
I can remember a time when I was like you..... But I have learned a lot.....and it does pay to learn a bit about how to do things.
I hope you get sorted out very soon.

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Here are the two screen shots. these are on Windows 7....it might look different on Windows 10...me and Windows 10 are not even passing acquaintances.
I hope this helps.

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On the radio 4 consumer programme (You and Yours) at midday friday, how to avoid windows 10 was discussed.

An application named never 10 was recommended.

I downloaded it and it seems to work.

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

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Margaret I downloaded that GWX Control Panel.......and I have not had to weed out the windows 10 stealth file since I downloaded it. Today I checked for updates and KB 3035583 file is available, but it is only there as an optional rather than a security(must download) file.
And my security system has stopped poking me in the ribs with red notices to tell me that my system is vulnerable.
That will do for me.
Had I not already done this, I probably would have downloaded your recommendation.

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Enjoy your windoze7 for four more years. Four more years to enjoy windows 7 before it becomes unwise to continue using as daily driver with its end of support coming around early 2020.

Windows 10 is pretty good IMHO and the changes you will get used to quicker than you realise(i should hope)

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Rob you are a user of a smart phone.
Now I might be wrong here, but wasn't Windows 10 developed for phones?(relying on touch screens)
I do not use a smart phone( though once they have developed the technology enough for the smart phone to make the beds, do the hoovering and hang the washing out.....I might just get one then).....and although I use an iPad, much of my crafting is done using a desk top.
You have (comparative) youth on your side too. Makes adapting to new stuff easier. You are male too. All of these things mean you are far more tech savvy than us old duffers.
I will stick with Windows 7 for as long as I can.Who knows by 2020 I may have saved up enough for a Mac OS.......:)

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Wrong yes. Its designed to be the last operating system release but with continuous development. Basically, you pay once for windows and later you will be given choice whether or not you want the new features(from what I gather, I havent read too much about it) as they are devoloped

Windows 8 looked to be that way, with its stupid full screen thing(which i didnt mind personally, I just ignored it existed). Ok on a tablet; I guess it worked, but the tablet versions of windows (surface for example) was not the same version of windows 8 that was on the pc. It was Windows RT and RT is a pile of ****e. Didn't run all the programs a PC can and that is a killer for a windows tablet. I believe the latest version of the Surface has a full blown copy of windows, and I think RT is officially dead(we can only hope)

Win8- People hated that metro screen and wanted the start menu back. In 10 They kinda made the start menu a combination of what it was originally, the tiles from the full screen metro shell(pointless, I removed them) and a little bit of the siri type search thing(that tracks your input, of which you turn off in the settings)

The above statement IMHO is slightly contradictory. In a sense you have a smartphone already.

OK perhaps not. But what if we politely call them smart devices, then the ipad/iphone becomes much a similar thing. Its the same OS(iOS) and both do all the things you would need to do on a smartphone. These days with things such as facebook messenger, whatsapp and other things, who necessarily needs phone credit to contact people. You can use your home broadband to connect and a lot of the time the quality is much better using voip. Only real difference is the specs, size and a few other things. If you was to buy a smartphone, I would think it would be an iphone, you wouldn't even have to learn to use it. I haven't owned one, but ive used one, I have had two ipads(had an ipad mini and it was awful, but now I have an ipad pro and its fantastic!) and an ipod touch and they are all the same on the surface.

Pedantic I know. But debatable all the same :)

If I may be so bold, I call that a Cop-Out. Mum is closing in on 70 in a few years and she does fine with her android phones :D My dad on the other hand.... I remember when DVD's came out and mum had to record them onto video, because he couldn't figure out how to use the DVD player and a few years ago he compared a faulty DVD to a VHS and said "DVD is rubbish, videos never used to stop and start and go back to the beginning" All I could think about was using that tracking button all the time to get the lines off the screen :D

Shorter version of the above paragraph would've read - Cop-Out. Don't sell your self short. But ive only been typing for 50 hours this week. Why not carry on a bit longer hehe

If it still works...... Why not :D :D :D

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In essence much of what you say makes sense.
I do consider myself better equipped than some of my peers. I do not use many of the apps you mention.....no snapchat, no whatsapp. I distrust them in the way that I distrust facebook(and yes, I know it is all down to the intelligence of the user)
These apps have no relevance for me. I sometimes use FaceTime, but really my iPad is just a convenient way to have access to a computer in a portable format.
I am not contactable(other than e-mail, and I can ignore those if I want to).
I won't be buying an iPhone. I have a mobile that lurks at the bottom of my bag....it has no camera, no internet access.....it is just a phone......and only used to summon assistance if I need it.
I know it is old fashioned, but I do not feel the need to be in constant contact with folk......many of whom I am trying to avoid anyway:)

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Rob...on reflection I can learn anything I really want to learn.....it is just that I have not liked the way Windows 10 has been marketed...the way it has been pushed at people. It makes me very suspicious of Microsofts motives.
I am a lot like a donkey....i can be coaxed, I can be cajoled, but I will not be kicked into doing something because everyone else is doing it.
None of us know where we will be in 2020...heck I might just have left this earthly plane by then....but if not I will deal with whatever comes next(but I will still save up for a Mac os):D

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Margaret, my new friend has a new Mac and I've had look around it. I will certainly be having one when this thing decides I've clicked it to death.
Ive got an Apple Iphone 6s and an Ipad so it only makes sense to follow that route. Everything links in seamlessly. Well hers does.

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Yes Russell, I think Mac is the way to go.
But it will be a while before I get one.....my desk top was only bought three months ago.....so will have to wait a bit before I can justify buying a new machine.
I struggled to find a machine that was running Windows 7.

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Mines three year old nearly now but runs perfectly well so does it justify spending the amount of money a Mac costs? I think not at present.
It's a 21 inch flatscreen stand alone PC with built in DVD drive and all the connections you could want including a TV tuner. All about 2inch thick with remote keyboard and mouse.
It similar in size and shape to my friends Mac but not a patch on it in my opinion.
It has never had a game played on it either and any that came with the O/S was deleted.
So it's fast enough for anything I can need it for.

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Russell, you have answered your own question.
No.....it doesn't seem sensible to swap something that does all you need.
It looks like you will be in the queue with me....at some time in the future.

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What has playing games got to do with it?

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I'm told that you need a fast processor for playing games on a PC.
I was trying to say I didn play games so my out of date PC was good enough for my needs.

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Choosing an os depends on what you would use it for. Since my spare time these days is mostly spent gaming; windows is the only option. Mac is out the question if your a gamer and Linux (despite a massive push by Steam and their product the Steam Box) is neither an option, mainstream game developers don't touch it with a bargepole.

So I scrapped Linux altogether. Used to dual boot, but i dont feel i have the time to learn it, if I wasn't a gamer I would be leaning more towards Mac because of editing capabilities on mac is superior, be it music, video or Photoshop.

True the faster processor the better for gaming, but its true for everything you do on the PC. Couldn't go back to anything before i5 on my desk pc. It would drive me bonkers! Fast enough for some is slow as a slug for me :D

Not just CPU to think of. But GPU. These days graphic cards have their own processor and memory.

Decided to upgrade this year, being sober for two and a half years, I have gone a bit nuts on the ole pc...

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good for you Rob.....whatever floats your boat.
My desk top is used for my crafting. I design my cards, edit some of them and do a little bit of printing.
when you talk about the Windows 10 tiles(i hate them) you said you junked them...that is because you know how to do this.
Getting that tiled start up screen would do my box in( I am getting far more intolerant of the things I do not like).
I WANT a START menu and then my comfortable desk top...it is my security blanket...take it off me and I howl like a baby.
I know you are laughing at this because it is ludicrous...I know it is ludicrous, but I cannot help myself.
Why do they have to change things when they aren't broken?

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Fairynuff, I just wondered if you thought games infected it for some reason.

If you are happy with the system you have and it works for you, be happy.

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We lost all our files, got a comp man in who we've used for years and he said it was gone for good and we'd have to reinstall it all! Grr!

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What caused you to lose files, where they important?
I've had some success in the past with file recovery software, even after formatting, it does take ages though.

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I recently purchased a new pc, it came with win 8 which I defo didn't want, so no alternative but to download 10, initially I thought I had made a mistake as the start screen was the tiles you mentioned. After a few days getting used to it I found you can have a standard desktop by turning off the "tablet" option, you can also toggle between the two by clicking the start button on the taskbar. So now having used it for a while I find it is not all that different from win 7 and wonder what all the kerfuffle was about its launch.

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I am a suspicious old baggage Dave.
Microsoft are not known for their philanthropy.....so why would the give it away?(a future captive market for after market milking??) Yes, not just suspicious, but cynical too.
I am really resistant to change.....it discombobulates me.
I am unmotivated to get used to it purely because I don't HAVE to.
Now, had I bought a new computer with Windows 8 on it......THAT would most certainly have motivated me.....and perhaps I would have got used to it.

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Eventually evolution will force everyone to have win 10 as they stop support for older systems, and when this happens it leaves computers open to outside attack. Now I don't know if there is a hidden agenda with the free updated system but from a day to day user it is not that different from the system I left behind. So once I discovered that the tile system is not compulsory I found there was very little to learn. Win 10 is tilted towards touch screen but is just as easy mouse driven.
Having said that people have to be comfortable with the system they use, and if that is millennium, 7, XP or any other system then the worlds your lobster.

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Its as simple as right clicking them and clicking unpin.

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Rob, that is good to know......for if and when.

I had a thought that perhaps I would download Windows 10 onto my laptop as this is not used for any of my projects.... I thought this would allow me to get used to it....to try it out.
But I haven't got around to it as I fear it might just stop using the laptop(I don't use it much anyway - but having an uncertain relationship with the OS might put me off altogether).
I will think about it!

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Margaret I tried the download path and didn't like what I got so reverted to W7. Some time later started having problems and a friend did a complete W10 load from disc, not download. He then asked me how I wanted it and I am happy about it now - it does everything I want in the way that I want it, some very minor differences, but nothing that has given me any problems

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Here, ya go. My start menu on windows 10 :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33ArSftK_dU

edit: you cant see the taskbar for some reason...

end result attached

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Thanks Rob.....better than all those blooming tiles.

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still too messy for me

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Lol messy.

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I think I am with you Margaret.
Though it is infinitely better than all those tiles.
I do not run a lot of Apps.......I have programs that I use(to me Apps are what touch screen devices use)...and yes, that may sound petty and pedantic..but there you go.(I told you that age was making me intolerant)

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My first version of Windows was 98, I`m pretty sure they were called applications back then as well.

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I had windows 98 too...but I always knew them as programs.

I am thinking about putting Windows 10 on my laptop...just to see if the two of us can get along........From the 29th of July there will be a charge of £99 for windows 10.

I have heard that with windows 10 you do not get the option to choose which updates you have...that the system downloads updates automatically. I am not sure where I have read this...but is there some way of disabling this facility. I like to choose what updates I install?

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Turning off updates isn`t as straight forward as previous versions but can be done - How to turn off Windows Update in Windows 10

I think we are both right about windows 98, once installed they were called programs but .exe files were applications. If you fancy a look at what windows 98 used to look and work like have a gander here - Virtual x86

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Oh my great goodnight........that brought back some memories.
My computer used to scare the bejasus out of me. I used to shout for my daughter to come and sort me out.
I have come a long way since then....now if she gets a problem she shouts for me(not that I am always able to help) I am far less in awe of my machine than I was back then.......but I STILL like what I know and am resistant to change( I bet you guessed that didn't you?).

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My first is was 2000NT(at work) and ME(shivers)

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You can run 98 on the original Xbox... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvBitO6M-Dg

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Margaret. a friend installed my W10 from disc, and then gave me a 30 minute teach in. Cost me £40 but well worth it as far as I am concerned, I could not get along with the W10 download and gave up on that after 2 weeks. Now I am perfectly happy with what I have got, in fact I think it is great and littlepom thinks the same.
If you would like me to ask him to help you send me a PM with your email or phone number and I will ask him for you.

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That is kind of you Barrie....But I would only be trying it out on my laptop(which I use infrequently)....just to see if I could get along with it........if it proves to be leas wearisome that i think then I might just contact you for deatils in the future.(if that is alright).
I am a bit chary of putting it on my desktop as i use this for my crafting projects.......and i have a few part completed projects on it right now.

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We only use laptops.

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My desk top is in my very messy craft room(back bedroom).all my design programs are on it and my craft projects past and present.i use my iPad on the go, but all my crafting is done from the desk top.....I just find it easier to use than a laptop.....though I do occasionally use my laptop, but not for crafting.

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I started off using two floppy disks.
One was TRSDOS for the O/S. The other for the program. I wrote a few programs to teach kids maths. Very simple stuff.
Then we got Menu before Windows and life was so simple but there was not much you could do on the PC.
Before any of that I had the old Spectrum Z something.

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My first ever was a sord m5, complete pile of garbage. The speccy would probably be a zx.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum

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And forget Xbox and PlayStation, my vectrex was the dogs danglies.

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I got a couple of spectrums a while back. Just got the DivMMC EnJOY because my other divmmc doesnt work on the plus2a :D

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Restless. I've just noticed your location is Accy spelt out in Morse code.
Clever stuff.

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Ha. Thanks :) I don't actually know morse code. So it was hard work encoding it. :D

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My first operating system was on a pile of floppy discs which takes you back a bit.
Re Windows UPVC 10 after the initial shock of Microsoft allowing it to install itself and update my 8 which I had just about got round I'm happily working on 10 now. Usually built up my own machines specific for work except for the most recent which was pretty much what I needed to do my jobs :--)

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By the way the free Windows 10 download offer expires on the 29th.

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Windows 10 is definitely better than Windows 8.1 - but computers today are much more reliant on you being on the Internet all the time - which wasn't so back in the 90's - OK Internet speed is much better today but that means they can get personal data off your PC easier. Also the latest Microsoft Office seems to rely on being on the Internet to verify you've paid for it, on a regular basis - twice now it's stopped working approximately 2 months apart and demanded I go on line to "verify my subscription" this never happened before - these days you no longer get a CD Rom just a code which you put in on line then download the software.

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It used to happen with pirated copies regularly so I'm told.[emoji33]

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Curious at home what are you using office for

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Clever dick as usual - it was brand new from a correct retail outlet; for your information!:lamer:

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Word doesn't come on it's own - it's always part of Office so it's all part of the same program.

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Open Office or Libre Office are very good free replacements for MS Office and you don't have to be online to use them.

This is what I use at home, works for me. :)

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Not exactly an answer to my question. See below.
Libre office is a perfect FREE replacement. Not tried open office.

So depends on what you use it for. If word is all you use and it's just for personal notes or writing then free solutions are simple. Libre office worth a look at for sure. If you're editing documents by others on office then they are generally compatible.

Any use I can think of for word that I use myself.... Notepad++ takes care of it

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Not used Libre, but open office documents aren`t compatible with MS Office, you can save them as Office compatible but if the person creating it doesn`t do that then Office won`t open it ( I use 2007 so newer versions may be different ).
I ended up installing Open Office as well just to get round this.

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I use open office, it allows you to save in office format, always gives a warning that you might not be able to transfer everything exactly, however so far those using ms office have always been able to read what I've typed, (whether they make sense of it...).

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That`s what I just said. :rolleyes:

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How true, I just read it different.[emoji33]

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Never tried. Just don't quote me on anything office related :D

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I thought you were asking "why do you have office at home?"

Notepad doesn't have all the functions to do a proper letter or create documents that look good, which word has - Notepad - it's literally for notes.

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I can see why you would think that but actually notepad is used more to edit .cfg and .xml files and such. Depends on the user really. I prefer notepad++ as it has extra features that make nfo files viewable, and offer up formatting visuals for xml that makes the tedious (attempts) at coding cfg for arma3 that much easier.

I was asking that question. You don't need office If your doing a few personal things. Free solutions will do all that. One presumes you use an official licenced copy of office meaning you pay way over the odds for a software you can do the same thing with free alternatives.

However if you're doing professional documentation or editing work related documents m$ is the better option

So do you write tons of letters and create lots of documents that look good? Enough to warrant a purchase of office? - that, I guess was the question. How frequent do you use it etc..

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I've always had Word and Office for doing letters and also for spreadsheets...and what ever - I don't really spend time looking for alternatives. People told me Real Player is rubbish and there are other "free" programs - when I tried them I didn't like them as much as Real Player.

Last time I tried notepad - it was very simple and didn't have any functions - perhaps they've improved it recently I haven't looked.

Anyway thanks for info I'll try out the suggested program and see if I like it when this runs out.

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Oh it's still very basic. haha I wouldn't use notepad for letters. I'm just saying for most uses I use that... Writing songs mainly


Real player is rubbish. But let's not get back into that one :D

I would suggest giving libre office a look when the time comes.



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Actually, I decided not to update my windows 7 to windows 10 so as not to encounter possible issues that I have been hearing around. I'm comfortable with windows 7 already.

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I was happy with windows 7 until the computer it was on crashed completely. As I hadn't been on line with it for over 2 years and therefore hadn't had the updates - I wonder if that had something to do with the reason it crashed dead?

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Nope

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It got so I couldn't even access the repair function - this attempted to repair several times and then even that stopped working and I could'nt even get into the BIOS - the whole thing went down and never had this happen before. Any specific reason for this?

Windows 10
 

Failed component, probably ram, not being able to access bios is definitely nothing to do with Windows.

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How dare you?

Everything is to do with windows, even if their customer is too thick to plug their computer in, it must be a fault of Windows10 or some inferior version of their OS.

Even Which magazine puts out a free leaflet for those that can't think for themselves!

E.G. 'I bought a new computer, when I turned it on it was Windows10 I had no idea what to do next',

That tells me that you are a little bit thick and being given far more money than you deserve.

Surely the sensible way of getting a computer is to find one you have a slight chance of understanding before you purchase it?, not to buy it then rely on Which?

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One of my friends works in IT helpdesk type work and he was on phone to a customer for quite sometime diagnosing her problem. After her saying she turned it on and off a few times to a black screen he asked her where the button was... It was on her monitor

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A similar thing, woman rings up the help desk complains, the guy asks can she check if it's plugged in? Her reply, what? In the middle of a power cut? I can't see the socket.

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Another one was after a frustrating hour and a half of stupidity, the guy at the call centre asked, do you still have the box your computer came in?
The reply was yes.
In that case he said put your computer back in the box, send it back to the folk you bought it from get a refund, you shouldn't be anywhere near a keyboard.

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Thanks - well it did definitely slow down slightly about 5 months before it crashed permanently - and I had about 5 1/2 years of no problem computing out of it, they don't last for ever - bit like pets and spouses! :rolleyes:

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I was one of the unfortunates who clicked the exit cross which automatically started the 10 upgrade. What this did for me was demonstrated what tricksters the mob are who made it. Enough of my griping..

10 seems to work OK here although I think its quietly gathering information for them.

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Every site on the web collects information, in one form or another. I'm think 10 is like what we had with 98... it works.

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Does Libra Office open Word files/documents?

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Open Office opens ordinary documents, HTML and presentations ok, not tried with spreadsheets or databases.
Libra Office opens ordinary documents and HTML ok, not tried spreadsheets or databases.

Both should be ok with anything that you would normally come across.

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I want to go back to windows 7 I don't like windows 10 but the spugster says ive got to stick with it . I just want my old way of shifting mi photos of mi camera .. and the old way .. gggggggggggrrrrrrrrr

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If you upgraded from 7 to 10 and have not wiped the 7 settings then I am told that you can backtrack,but I don't know how without looking it up.

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This tells you how.
https://www.howtogeek.com/220723/how...dows-7-or-8.1/

I hope this helps...and in the first paragraph it says'if you have upgraded in the last month '
But if you look further down it does explain that you can go back if you upgraded a while ago.

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I did not take up the option of Windows 10.
I had a look at it on someone else's machine and decided it was not for me.
I suppose at some point I will have to upgrade to some new version...but right now 7 fits the bill for me.

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I resisted windows 10 for ages but I'm glad I moved. It's better than 7 once you get used to it. You can get rid of all that big stuff on your start menu if you don't like it and it has some good bits that are better than Windows 7. You will have to change at some point so might as well stick with it

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Neil, it was formulated for touch screens rather than for mouse and keyboard.
I do not like the idea of the automatic updates...I like to choose what I want to update.
And it looked and felt ungainly.I really did not like it and felt that it would curtail my use of the computer...a friend of mine tried it out and gave it three weeks before reverting back...she could not get used to it.(and she is a generation younger than me too)

Yes, at some point it will become impossible to continue with 7, but I cannot see the point of changing until I need to.
Windows 7 does all that I want to do...so I will stick with it.