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Mick 03-08-2015 08:07

Windows 10
 
Just updated my windows 8.1 laptop to windows 10 took 2 Hours
now trying to get me head round it all:D

Gremlin 03-08-2015 08:37

Re: Windows 10
 
I've downloaded the ISO file and burnt it to DVD but not yet had time to install it.
Do you loose all your data and programs or is it just the O/S that's updated?
I have a mirror image of my PC backed up in a USB hard drive and all my data on another but I want an easy passage if I go ahead and install Win10

gpick24 03-08-2015 08:43

Re: Windows 10
 
You might want to check your privacy settings, I would be turning some of this stuff off.


1. Microsoft creates a unique advertising ID for each user on a device running Windows 10. This can be turned off in the Privacy Settings.
2. What you say or type may be processed by Microsoft, for instance by the operating system's Cortana service or by providing spelling correction.
3. Windows supports a location service that allows apps and services, such as Find My Device, to request your location in the world. This can be turned off in the Privacy settings.
4. Microsoft syncs some Windows settings automatically when you sign in to a Microsoft account. This is done to provide users with a personalized experience across devices. Data that gets synced includes installed apps and their settings, web browser history and favorites, passwords and wireless network names, and addresses of shared printers.
5. Telemetry data is collected by Microsoft. This includes installed software, configuration data and network and connection data. While some of it can be turned off in the Settings, not all can.

Windows 10 and Privacy - gHacks Tech News

Gordon Booth 03-08-2015 09:11

Re: Windows 10
 
2 hours? Now you're frightening me!
That means I'll never sort it.
I thought it would do it automatically.

Margaret Pilkington 03-08-2015 09:32

Re: Windows 10
 
Gordon, of course you will.

maxthecollie 03-08-2015 09:48

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1146457)
Just updated my windows 8.1 laptop to windows 10 took 2 Hours
now trying to get me head round it all:D

Are you the site guinea pig?

Barrie Yates 03-08-2015 16:15

Re: Windows 10
 
Please let us know how you get on with it Mick.

maxthecollie 06-08-2015 09:25

Re: Windows 10
 
Just got my notification to download at 10.10 for my desktop. So far at 10.27 it is 23% done

Margaret Pilkington 06-08-2015 10:35

Re: Windows 10
 
Let us know how you like it Frank........I haven't plucked up the courage to reserve it.
I am waiting to see how it is received by the folk on here....whether it is easy to use and get used to....My brush with Vista really put me off new OS's

Gordon Booth 06-08-2015 10:58

Re: Windows 10
 
Mine's ready for downloading(I reserved it) but I can't remember how to back up on my Touro. I thought I'd better do that before I try it for chance I make my usual messup.
So I'm stuck at the moment.

maxthecollie 06-08-2015 11:23

Re: Windows 10
 
Just taken 2 hrs in total and it seems a lot faster

Gordon Booth 06-08-2015 12:15

Re: Windows 10
 
Just had a word with the guy who built my PC.
He suggests I leave it until you experts have found all the bugs and Microsoft have sorted them.
Good idea, I wouldn't know a bug if it bit me!

Restless 06-08-2015 23:04

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1146903)
Just had a word with the guy who built my PC.
He suggests I leave it until you experts have found all the bugs and Microsoft have sorted them.
Good idea, I wouldn't know a bug if it bit me!

See you in 10 years then :D

Anyway. I left my PC on today and it downloaded the update and so I decided to risk it and updated....

So far so good. Everything so far seems to be working fine

Margaret Pilkington 07-08-2015 06:50

Re: Windows 10
 
Yes, but Rob.....you have to admit that you are computer fluent(as opposed to some of us who are just about computer literate).
Do you recommend it or is it too early in the game to say it is a pleasant operating system?

Gremlin 07-08-2015 07:18

Re: Windows 10
 
I downloaded Win10 a few days ago and decided to install it yesterday.
The PC kept showing a message "Cannot install windows 10 on a USB flash drive"
I had no USB devices plugged in and after three atempts I decided to look at the FAQ on the Windows forum.
I finished up editing the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE setting in the Registry. Changing the value of file from 1 to 0.
After that Windows 10 installed within an hour and up to now seems trouble free.
All my software, files, passwords and setting have been retained.
Lets hope it stays that way.

Gordon Booth 07-08-2015 09:25

Re: Windows 10
 
I'd have been totally lost there, Gremlin. I'd hate to be stuck with a seized up PC if I messed up.
I'll leave it for now, maybe take it and have it done by an expert.

Gremlin 07-08-2015 09:45

Re: Windows 10
 
I have a full working back up of my Win 8 system on a USB hard drive Gordon.
If I mess the upgrade up I can just restore Win 8.
I've no fear of PC,s or messing with the registry settings. Sometime it's the only way to delete malware.
As it happens everything turned out OK with Win10.

Restless 07-08-2015 16:02

Re: Windows 10
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1146976)
Yes, but Rob.....you have to admit that you are computer fluent(as opposed to some of us who are just about computer literate).
Do you recommend it or is it too early in the game to say it is a pleasant operating system?

Well.. The win8 metro startscreen(that looks like 27" version of a mobile phone(of course if u have my monitor) ) has now gone and the "tiles" are kinda integrated into the start menu(see pic1 attached)

I am finding it to be good. No problems what-so-ever. It passes the game tests I have done so far!

There are significant leaps from WIN7 to WIN10 that may be more noticeable to those that up from 8.1 to 10.

Everything is now marketed as "apps" rather than programs. Pre installed was twitter app! hmmm

There are tons of settings that really need to be turned off for privacy sake. Microsoft want to know everything about you and they do this by using a search option(trying to get you to "talk" to 'cortana' much like apple products and their siri)

Another option to turn off is in automatic updates. If you are on a tariff that limits data usage you really need to turn this option off (see PIC2) Microsoft use your PC to send updates to other computers... Peer2peer using your internet!

So. I would say this. Knowing how fixed in your ways you are, I would find somebody that is already running Win10 and spend 10-15 mins using it. Or go into PC world and test it out. No rush, Just when it popped up on my screen, i thought... stuff it :D

Margaret Pilkington 07-08-2015 16:16

Re: Windows 10
 
Can you get rid of the Twitter and Facebook apps?..I would not want them on my desktop....or my screen for that matter.(I know I am a sad old baggage)

I have just got Spindleshanks (he did well in his SAT's)a new laptop and it will be upgraded to Windows 10.
I will go through the privacy settings(much as i did with Windows 8.1) and turn off those which I feel are intrusive

maxthecollie 07-08-2015 17:32

Re: Windows 10
 
I'm struggling with 10 at the mo. All new to me

Restless 07-08-2015 18:57

Re: Windows 10
 
facebook wasn't preinstalled, you can remove twitter, or at least the option to do so is there

max what you struggling with?

to be honest. Much is the same(to me) it just looks different, with some stupid options to turn off

Margaret Pilkington 07-08-2015 18:59

Re: Windows 10
 
But can you get rid of the logo on the start up screen..?I can't stand to look at it.
Or is it not on there anymore?

Restless 07-08-2015 19:03

Re: Windows 10
 
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You mean that went upwards? you was always able to change it to whatever you want!

And now there is a rubbish logo underneath where you type the password in. But I will look to see if that can be changed... here is mine(as it is now and as it was all the time on windows 8/8.1)

Gordon Booth 07-08-2015 19:16

Re: Windows 10
 
Wow, that's an interesting collection of kit. Where did you find my old Spectrum?
It's OK for you experts, I still have to check how to switch it on, changing to 10 may be a task too far.
Using your fixed tariff to update other peoples PC's, accessing your info! Microsoft are going too far, relying on us thickies to let them in without our knowing.

Margaret Pilkington 07-08-2015 19:16

Re: Windows 10
 
No......not that. I have changed that, the screen where all the apps are displayed.
I spent a while with Windows 8.1 changing stuff......sorted out the privacy stuff.
But it still took me a long time to find my way about.
I suppose I could put the new Windows on my laptop and try to get used to it before putting it on my desk top(which I use much more).

gpick24 07-08-2015 19:24

Re: Windows 10
 
Any software compatibility problems yet? I know some of my software isn`t supported but I have dual boot on my home PC so might overwrite (won`t call it upgrade just yet;) )one of them.

maxthecollie 07-08-2015 20:18

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1147036)
facebook wasn't preinstalled, you can remove twitter, or at least the option to do so is there

max what you struggling with?

to be honest. Much is the same(to me) it just looks different, with some stupid options to turn off

I can't find a home page symbol on the task bar

gpick24 07-08-2015 21:06

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1147067)
I can't find a home page symbol on the task bar

Might need a resolution adjustment to make it fit your screen/monitor, i get similar when attaching laptop to TV.

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/4...dows-10-a.html

cashman 07-08-2015 21:39

Re: Windows 10
 
I aint touching sod all, my comps working ok as it is, so balls to it. i know nowt about computers so if it aint broke dont fix it is my motto.

Restless 07-08-2015 22:09

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1147044)
Wow, that's an interesting collection of kit. Where did you find my old Spectrum?

My first love 30 years ago, I was 7 when I first owned a spectrum...oh the days of R:Tape Loading Erorr I bought it from some dude in Darwen off Gumtree.
Il do a blog post about it as not to hijack this thread so much

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1147044)
Using your fixed tariff to update other peoples PC's, .

I am almost amazed they use your internet and your pc in this way. Not much different from freeware bundles containing bitcoin miners!

accyman 09-08-2015 16:08

Re: Windows 10
 
i dont know if they have reversed the decision as of yet because it dosnt effect me so i havnt checked but before teh launch of windows 10 there was a lot of complaining about when you upgrade to windows 10 your legitimate windows product key would be deactivated making it useless if you decided to revert back to windows 7 or 8

if this still stands and you want to revert back to win 7 or 8 check you can find alternative methods to activate your product before doing so

Gordon Booth 10-08-2015 11:03

Re: Windows 10
 
I've been at my brother in law's today. He updated to 10, can't access his e mails, his printer isn't connecting and he's got a message about that 'C' whatever it is not right.
He uses it for his business so it's a serious problem for him.
Oh joy!

gpick24 10-08-2015 11:18

Re: Windows 10
 
He can go back what he had before.
http://www.howtogeek.com/220723/how-...dows-7-or-8.1/

Gordon Booth 10-08-2015 11:38

Re: Windows 10
 
I've just emailed him(he can still get e mails on his tablet). He's going to try it.
Thanks, gpick24, I'll let you know how he goes on.

In the meantime I'll leave well alone and stay with 8.1!

Margaret Pilkington 10-08-2015 13:17

Re: Windows 10
 
That makes good sense.
Let others work out the bugs, the gremlins(not you Russell, sit down:)) the glitches.
We can join when they have all bee ironed out.

Hill Walker 10-08-2015 13:31

Re: Windows 10
 
Could someone please enlighten me as to how Win10 is downloaded? I don't mean how you reserve a copy – I've done all that. What I mean is does it just trickle in quietly in the background like the regular updates or do they send you an address to get it from or whatever?

My reason for asking is very simple, unlike you lucky folks who obviouly have access to fibre, out here in the sticks my typical download speed is very slow about 150kbs. So something about the size of a DVD (which I guess it is) is liable to take upwards of a week.

gpick24 10-08-2015 13:50

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hill Walker (Post 1147310)
Could someone please enlighten me as to how Win10 is downloaded? I don't mean how you reserve a copy – I've done all that. What I mean is does it just trickle in quietly in the background like the regular updates or do they send you an address to get it from or whatever?

My reason for asking is very simple, unlike you lucky folks who obviouly have access to fibre, out here in the sticks my typical download speed is very slow about 150kbs. So something about the size of a DVD (which I guess it is) is liable to take upwards of a week.

I believe you get a notification through windows update.

A bit more info here - Windows 10 FAQs ? Microsoft

Or if you don`t get the notification, you can download it from here (or get someone with a better connection to do it) - https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

Restless 10-08-2015 17:09

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hill Walker (Post 1147310)
Could someone please enlighten me as to how Win10 is downloaded? I don't mean how you reserve a copy – I've done all that. What I mean is does it just trickle in quietly in the background like the regular updates or do they send you an address to get it from or whatever?

My reason for asking is very simple, unlike you lucky folks who obviouly have access to fibre, out here in the sticks my typical download speed is very slow about 150kbs. So something about the size of a DVD (which I guess it is) is liable to take upwards of a week.

It downloads and then tells you its ready to install. They are slowly rolling it out as to why you might not have had the notification yet

Hill Walker 10-08-2015 17:18

Re: Windows 10
 
gpick24 and Restless many thanks, I'll keep sitting on my hands for a while and see what happens.

gpick24 10-08-2015 17:58

Re: Windows 10
 
Check your windows update is set to automatic, otherwise you could be waiting a while.

TubbyLes 10-08-2015 19:48

Re: Windows 10
 
Use the "Media creation tool" at-----------

Installing Windows 10 using the media creation tool - Windows Help

gpick24 10-08-2015 20:46

Re: Windows 10
 
Done the deed tonight, had to update windows 7 before I could get rid of it :rolleyes:, but mostly painless, had to update video and audio drivers, but other that everything working as it should.

Mick 11-08-2015 05:15

Re: Windows 10
 
Everything is working fine on me laptop
my Brother A3 printer works fine and email is ok
its just finding where they have put everything like folders downloads
and other trivial things :)
so all in all a painless experience for once
I was expecting problems but non so far:D

Gremlin 11-08-2015 07:19

Re: Windows 10
 
Up to now I've had only one little problem with Win10.
I have Microsoft money to keep an eye on finances and stocks, I had to reinstall Internet explorer before it would run. I had previously deleted IE in favour of Google Chrome which I still use. My printer/scanner/fax which is also WiFi works as usual and everything else seems fine.
I don't have a game of any description installed, in fact I have deleted the ones which come with Windows, so I can't comment on how Win10 affects games.
The way I can just ask the PC a question or to open a program or email is amusing but the novelty soon wore off.
It's taken a few sessions with the PC to get used to the new layout but altogether I'm pleased with it.
One thing Win8 was noted for was that it didn't always connect to WiFi first time and Win 10 is there straight away.

Mick 12-08-2015 05:18

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1147397)
One thing Win8 was noted for was that it didn't always connect to WiFi first time and Win 10 is there straight away.

I never had that problem with windows
but get the same problem with my IPad:rolleyes:

Gremlin 12-08-2015 07:00

Re: Windows 10
 
Mick, my phone, iPad and an old laptop running win7 would connect to WiFi as soon as they booted up. The main PC which is a Toshiba stand alone flat screen running Win 8 always connected to my router but not the internet until I disconnected and connected maybe three times.
I Googled Q&A and discovered it was a fault with Win8.
It's an instant connection now with Win10
I don't spend much time using my PC so haven't explored Win 10 fully but up to now I'm happy with what I use it for.
I don't think I would have paid for it though, it's only really a new way of accessing the software installed.

Mick 13-08-2015 04:55

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1147485)
I don't think I would have paid for it though, it's only really a new way of accessing the software installed.

this is true I would not pay for it
if it had not been a free upgrade I would have stayed with windows 8.1

Guinness 14-08-2015 20:11

Re: Windows 10
 
No problems on my 2 year old low spec laptop.

On my brand spankin' new alienware desktop...minor problem with my cursor travelling off my screen to the right into the twilight zone (turned out to be an Nvidia issue) and chrome browser needing an uninstall/reinstall after it refused point blank to open.

And I put Cortana back in her cage :enough:

Barrie Yates 21-08-2015 16:24

Re: Windows 10
 
Installed and running OK on M's and my LT, but still finding my way around.
One problem found already - on W7 M used Adblocker on one of her favourite games - Words with Friends which was very successful. However Adblocker does not appear to work on W10 and I have also tried a couple of other advert blocker programmes without success.
Can anyone recommend a programme that will work on W10?

Restless 21-08-2015 22:33

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1148391)
Installed and running OK on M's and my LT, but still finding my way around.
One problem found already - on W7 M used Adblocker on one of her favourite games - Words with Friends which was very successful. However Adblocker does not appear to work on W10 and I have also tried a couple of other advert blocker programmes without success.
Can anyone recommend a programme that will work on W10?

What browsers are you using? As long as its either Chrome/Firefox use ublock origin

Barrie Yates 22-08-2015 09:14

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1148411)
What browsers are you using? As long as its either Chrome/Firefox use ublock origin

Thanks R. She is using IE and as I said did not have a problem when on W7. I will try your suggestion over the weekend, thank you.

xaccy 22-08-2015 19:51

Re: Windows 10
 
no all your data is kept installed it myself no problems so far.

accybeme 01-09-2015 15:28

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1148391)
Installed and running OK on M's and my LT, but still finding my way around.
One problem found already - on W7 M used Adblocker on one of her favourite games - Words with Friends which was very successful. However Adblocker does not appear to work on W10 and I have also tried a couple of other advert blocker programmes without success.
Can anyone recommend a programme that will work on W10?

suggestion try ghostery

TubbyLes 01-09-2015 19:13

Re: Windows 10
 
Ad blocker works on my W10 using Firefox.

Restless 01-09-2015 22:58

Re: Windows 10
 
Ublockorigin is miles better than both of those

Lampman 17-09-2015 14:45

Re: Windows 10
 
Well I took the plunge, "upgraded" from Windows 8.1 it worked alright for a week or so, then automatic updates sent the P.C. into a boot loop. Constantly rebooting, I eventually got the computer working, only to find that it again went through the same Groundhog Day on switching on the next time I used the computer.
I have now reverted to Windows8.1,and have noticed that the" Get Windows 10 "icon has reappeared.
As a few people have commented I think that I will wait for a more stable upgrade to appear. Apparently Microsoft warn that not all graphic cards are yet supported.

accyman 18-09-2015 16:22

Re: Windows 10
 
funny enough iv done the upgrade on a lot of laptops now and not had any issues

even laptops that came with windows vista dual core processors are coping fine

maybe its a certain chipset people are having trouble with because so far the nvidia chipsets iv had in the systems have coped and the few intle chipsets like dell systems and HP have been ok too

the intel i5 processor in one system i upgraded didnt seem to like win 10 until it updated the drivers and then all was well

Gremlin 18-09-2015 17:04

Re: Windows 10
 
Mines still running perfect, no problem whatsoever.
I don't play games on my PC and even uninstalled the ones that came with Windows so I can't say what effect they may have in Win 10.
Nor do I open any email of link unless I'm absolutely sure they are safe.

cmonstanley 18-09-2015 17:37

Re: Windows 10
 
ive updated to windows 10 on a couple of dell latitude d630 laptops and they are flying. I am liking it.:)

maxthecollie 22-09-2015 21:45

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lampman (Post 1150202)
Well I took the plunge, "upgraded" from Windows 8.1 it worked alright for a week or so, then automatic updates sent the P.C. into a boot loop. Constantly rebooting, I eventually got the computer working, only to find that it again went through the same Groundhog Day on switching on the next time I used the computer.
I have now reverted to Windows8.1,and have noticed that the" Get Windows 10 "icon has reappeared.
As a few people have commented I think that I will wait for a more stable upgrade to appear. Apparently Microsoft warn that not all graphic cards are yet supported.

I did the same with my laptop

joaner3 22-09-2015 23:23

Re: Windows 10
 
I've updated to Windows 10 so far no problems, I find the icons are abit different than Windows 7, I heard that Windows 8 was terrible I have a Dell 2009 model.

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2016 09:21

Re: Windows 10
 
I switched on my computer this morning and got a big notification about upgrading to Windows 10......This big dialog box gave me three options...Upgrade Now...Upgrade Tonight...or Choose a time to Upgrade.
There was no option to tell them to 'get stood on'...or to 'fly off'.
I have just bought a new desk top....chosen because it was running Windows 7 which I know and quite like(thank you very much)....so if there is someone out there who knows how I can swerve this update, then please let me know.
I do not want Windows 10 at any price

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2016 09:46

Re: Windows 10
 
It's Ok.......panic over now.
I have even got rid of the annoying Windows 10 logo from my task bar.
unbeknown to me during a recent automatic update i suppose those sneaky Windows folk had put the Windows 10 download into optional updates.
I found the details of this update on a search engine.
If you want to keep this off your machine too....then look for this number in your optional updates KB3035583 and uninstall it.
You will have to restart your machine after this but that is how you do it!

Less 06-03-2016 09:50

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1163255)
I switched on my computer this morning and got a big notification about upgrading to Windows 10......This big dialog box gave me three options...Upgrade Now...Upgrade Tonight...or Choose a time to Upgrade.
There was no option to tell them to 'get stood on'...or to 'fly off'.
I have just bought a new desk top....chosen because it was running Windows 7 which I know and quite like(thank you very much)....so if there is someone out there who knows how I can swerve this update, then please let me know.
I do not want Windows 10 at any price

As the Borg (Star Trek) say "Resistance Is Futile", you will eventually have to change, unless of course you install Linux then you can be as pernickity as you wish about not being told by Mr Gates what you have to use.:enough:

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2016 09:59

Re: Windows 10
 
eventually doesn't pose a problem Less. Eventually I will lose my love of computers and the internet. Eventually is on the horizon and doesn't need dealing with right now'
Eventually I might not be here on this green earth.....until then I will try every method known to man(or woman...with help from computer savvy friends) to stop being strong armed or sneakily coerced into using a product which does not suit my needs(goodness I am sounding a bit like retlaw here).
Anyway I have just checked again and this update has gone.

This ploy of FREE windows 10 makes me suspicious....no-one gives something away like this unless they have an ulterior motive.

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2016 10:04

Re: Windows 10
 
And anyway what is this 'futile' Less ?
You know I don't accept this no can do attitude.....I am the peerson who will try...more so if they tell me it can't be done!

gpick24 06-03-2016 10:06

Re: Windows 10
 
You also need to hide that update or it will install again if you run Windows update again.

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2016 10:54

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1163266)
You also need to hide that update or it will install again if you run Windows update again.

I have disabled the automatic updates(well for now at least) so that it only updates what I want it to update.
How do you hide the update?

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2016 10:56

Re: Windows 10
 
I asked that question before putting the grey cells into action....I have been into my conrol panel and hidden this update...only ten miners with lamps and a ferret would find it now :D

Gremlin 06-03-2016 18:08

Re: Windows 10
 
The only problem I have had up to now with Windows ten, and I've had it installed from the start of the introduction, is that I've lost the HDMI driver.
I use the PC to link to my bedroom flat screen TV so I can watch SkyGo.
Now I can only watch SkyGo on the PC which is lower down and smaller than the TV on the facing wall.
I have a Toshiba all in one PC and the Toshiba forum has dozens of enquiries as to what Windows has done to the driver.
It was fine on Win8.
It's not really important but I do like to watch some of the late comedies or Qi on Sky. Apart from that I'm very happy with Win10.

Margaret Pilkington 06-03-2016 19:22

Re: Windows 10
 
Russell I have just got newer desk top and I chose this because it came with Windows 7.
I know my way around this OS and it suits the things I do...especially the craft stuff. I did not want to be having to load stuff onto this new machine(a trial in itself) and having to get used to a new OS(this must be a sign of ageing......I was always comfortable with change until recently)
I really, really don't want windows 10 and am suspicious because they are giving it away.
Is this so they have a captive audience that widens their already massive sales base for other add on products.
I don't like feeling that I have to have something that I do not want.
I will wait until I can see it up and running on someone elses machine before I would even consider it on mine.
A near neighbour of mine downloaded it and she has had nothing but trouble with it, so she has reverted back to Windows 7

Gremlin 06-03-2016 21:08

Re: Windows 10
 
I guess some people are unlucky with it but I took a chance early on knowing I could revert to older systems.
I made a full hard drive backup as well so if all else failed I would be able to restore my machine to the previous version.
I have set my heart on a new Apple Mac though. They seem superior all round to Windows machines. I'm just a bit concerned about my Windows software. I've a upto date full Microsoft office suite plus software I use for transferring music and photos to my iPad without getting iCloud or whatever involved.
I have a recent Photoediting suite from Nikon and one from Coral. All expense I dont want to repeat on a Mac.
I can do without the photo software as I don't often do more than crop my pictures. I prefer to use the camera in manual and get results that way, some photos I see look really false with too mch manipulation.


I've never played a game on a computer either.

In your case Margaret if you like what you have, enjoy and can use it, what's the point in changing.

Less 07-03-2016 08:34

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1163314)
I have set my heart on a new Apple Mac though. They seem superior all round to Windows machines. I'm just a bit concerned about my Windows software. I've a upto date full Microsoft office suite plus software I use for transferring music and photos to my iPad without getting iCloud or whatever involved.
I have a recent Photoediting suite from Nikon and one from Coral. All expense I dont want to repeat on a Mac.
I can do without the photo software as I don't often do more than crop my pictures. I prefer to use the camera in manual and get results that way, some photos I see look really false with too mch manipulation.

There are some very good free bits of software out there you can use,

For example try Open Office , It has all you need to replace Microsoft Office and can be downloaded for Windows, Mac or Linux.

Gimp2 an excellent 'GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP).' Again can be downloaded for all platforms.

Both the above organisations offer excellent 'how to' support and are open source, no need to be stuck with expensive windows based software if you look for quality replacements.

Less 07-03-2016 08:49

Re: Windows 10
 
Oh, and by the way if you use Google drive you can save all your work and use it across all the platforms including your mobile 'phone.

Hill Walker 07-03-2016 08:52

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gremlin (Post 1163314)
I guess some people are unlucky with it but I took a chance early on knowing I could revert to older systems.
I made a full hard drive backup as well so if all else failed I would be able to restore my machine to the previous version.
I have set my heart on a new Apple Mac though. They seem superior all round to Windows machines. I'm just a bit concerned about my Windows software. I've a upto date full Microsoft office suite plus software I use for transferring music and photos to my iPad without getting iCloud or whatever involved.
I have a recent Photoediting suite from Nikon and one from Coral. All expense I dont want to repeat on a Mac.
I can do without the photo software as I don't often do more than crop my pictures. I prefer to use the camera in manual and get results that way, some photos I see look really false with too mch manipulation.

Gremlin, You are clearly having the same thoughts and concerns as I had before my recent switchover to a Mac. I too had an investment in some software that I would be reluctant to loose, and also some software with 'no obvious equivalent'. I would suggest you have a look at a product called VMware, it will enable you to keep your Windows software running on the Mac while you 'settle in' to the new environment and try out alternatives, 'it does what it says on the can'. If you want more detail of my switchover experience send me a PM.

Barrie Yates 07-03-2016 09:12

Re: Windows 10
 
I tried W10 when it came out but after a couple of weeks I reverted back to W7. Developed a problem a few weeks ago and a friend did a complete rebuild of my LT, part of which was a loading of W10 from disc, not the download. It is now very different than the free d/l from MS and I am finding it very easy to use - I admit that I don't use a great deal of what is on offer, but what I do use is quicker, more capable in a number of areas and more user friendly. Quite happy with it now. Only come across one problem that so far not resolved and that is setting up my Epson WF2350 in Wi-Fi mode, which I understand is a common problem setting up older peripherals on W10.

Margaret Pilkington 07-03-2016 10:11

Re: Windows 10
 
good to hear that there are some satisfies users.

Margaret Pilkington 24-03-2016 15:47

Re: Windows 10
 
I have disabled automatic downloads...I hid the windows 10 update....today my security system alerted me that I had a windows security update that required to be installed.....despite hiding this update...it was pesky windows10....didn't find this out until it had been installed and the windows10 icon appeared on my taskbar.
I have just uninstalled it. I wish I could kick the chuffing thing into touch.
I am going to keep on getting this security message forevermore.
Anyway, i have the number of this update securely marked onto the screen of my computer.

Less 24-03-2016 15:52

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1164668)
Anyway, i have the number of this update securely marked onto the screen of my computer.

Knowing what windows is like you soon won't be able to see your screen, it will be covered in post it notes!

maxthecollie 24-03-2016 15:58

Re: Windows 10
 
I am getting used to windows 10 now

Margaret Pilkington 24-03-2016 16:49

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1164671)
Knowing what windows is like you soon won't be able to see your screen, it will be covered in post it notes!

no Less...I only need to see the number KB3035583 to know that it is not a security update...but a sneaky attempt to get me to load windows 10.
Had I recognised the number I would certainly not have installed it today. I thought that hiding the update would stop it from appearing......but No. That would be far too simple.

Margaret Pilkington 24-03-2016 16:50

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1164673)
I am getting used to windows 10 now

I don't want it Frank(I am pretty sure I could get used to it if I wanted to...but I don't want to)....and I certainly object to this sneaky way of promoting it.

Less 24-03-2016 20:45

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1164681)
no Less...I only need to see the number KB3035583 to know that it is not a security update...but a sneaky attempt to get me to load windows 10.
Had I recognised the number I would certainly not have installed it today. I thought that hiding the update would stop it from appearing......but No. That would be far too simple.

As I said, knowing what Windows is like (not just Windows 10) every update from now on will link you to Windows 10 update they want you to use it, they will eventually force you to use it. As I said earlier in the thread, resistance is futile. unless you change your OS.
:(

Margaret Pilkington 24-03-2016 21:19

Re: Windows 10
 
Less, I remember what you said...and yes at some point I will not be able to obtain a PC that does not run Windows 10.
Why do they want me to use it? Furthermore, if it is so damn good why is it free?
some people will accept anything if you tell them it is free...and usually I like free things.
I just don't want this and will hold off having it for as long as possible.

As for changing my OS...well, that might be one way out of it.Will save up for a Mac OS perhaps:)

Less 24-03-2016 22:18

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1164712)
Less, I remember what you said...and yes at some point I will not be able to obtain a PC that does not run Windows 10.
Why do they want me to use it? Furthermore, if it is so damn good why is it free?
some people will accept anything if you tell them it is free...and usually I like free things.
I just don't want this and will hold off having it for as long as possible.

As for changing my OS...well, that might be one way out of it.Will save up for a Mac OS perhaps:)

If I could afford another mac I'd have one without hesitation, get the empty beer bottles back to the off licence,it will clear your front room and get you the money you need.

accyman 26-03-2016 03:26

Re: Windows 10
 
follow these steps to remove and keep out the win 10 notification

may be an idea to bookmark it as you may need to reboot once or twice while you go throughthe guide

How to Remove the ?Get Windows 10? Icon from Your System Tray

Margaret Pilkington 26-03-2016 20:17

Re: Windows 10
 
Thank you for that helpful information.
I will need to follow it closely.

Margaret Pilkington 26-03-2016 20:20

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1164717)
If I could afford another mac I'd have one without hesitation, get the empty beer bottles back to the off licence,it will clear your front room and get you the money you need.

Less, we have no beer bottles to return(ah, those were the days).
Daughter has a Mac OS and although it took her a while to get used to it she would not willingly go back to Windows.
When I got my newer machine....?She asked why I hadn't gone for a mac......I told her it was purely on cost. I was being frugal.

gpick24 27-03-2016 08:48

Re: Windows 10
 
Aren't Apple just as bad as Microsoft for trying to force you to update, my phones been nagging me for ages and no permanent way of turning stopping it.

Margaret Pilkington 27-03-2016 09:42

Re: Windows 10
 
Yes, I think they are.....except they don't(as far as I am aware) cloak their change in operating system as an update.

My security system highlights the fact that I have not downloaded an important update every time windows updates come online.....and because it sees it as a security threat this makes me a bit twitched. Well, it did. Now I know that this security update is nothing of the sort I will check it out and then dismiss it.
It is this underhand way of going about getting 'converts' that I am strongly suspicious of.

BJS 19-04-2016 15:43

Re: Windows 10
 
Just gone through all this post and thought of a couple things not yet mentioned. When Windows 8 came out it caused a storm world wide due to its flaws, several countries refused to entertain it and wrote their own OS (widely discussed on the internet). Windows 10 was initially designed as an OS for mobile phones (again from internet). I do especially like all the comments from Less and agree with him. PS I have not left WindowsXP

accyman 25-04-2016 15:08

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1164907)
Aren't Apple just as bad as Microsoft for trying to force you to update, my phones been nagging me for ages and no permanent way of turning stopping it.

apple are worse they pester you to install updates that when you do make your phone behave badly so you think you need a new phone

the amount for people i have helped backdate their i phones is a lot and once backdated the phones have worked properly again

apple are way more sneaky and know their customers in that they will buy garbage for a premium price and wont ask questions as to why their phone dosnt work properly especially if they get the update released just before a new model phone is announced

gpick24 25-04-2016 15:38

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1167176)
apple are worse they pester you to install updates that when you do make your phone behave badly so you think you need a new phone

the amount for people i have helped backdate their i phones is a lot and once backdated the phones have worked properly again

apple are way more sneaky and know their customers in that they will buy garbage for a premium price and wont ask questions as to why their phone dosnt work properly especially if they get the update released just before a new model phone is announced

Exactly the reason I don`t want to update my phone, I`m in the last month of my contract and I know for sure that as soon as I update the software it will start playing up, it`s so annoying though, every day it pesters me to update.:mad: This will be my last ever I phone because of it.

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2016 17:27

Re: Windows 10
 
Well yesterday Windows did an update.
I weeded the KB3035583 out of the updates and set it to do the updates I wanted.
This it did.......it did a restart and what do you think?
It had loaded the update I didn't want.....so for the 11th time I have uninstalled KB3035583.
It is a right royal pest....plus my security system keeps jogging my arm to tell me I have security updates not downloaded...and when I look it is the Windows 10 download.
Yes Less.....I know you told me so!

Less 15-05-2016 18:00

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1168748)
Yes Less.....I know you told me so!

It gives me no pleasure in this case to be correct.:(

Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2016 18:20

Re: Windows 10
 
That looks nothing like my screen Less.:)
I only have one post it note on my screen.
It says 'Avoid Windows 10 - don't download KB3035583'
And I actually don't need the reminder....the number of this update is burned into my brain!

Less 15-05-2016 18:59

Re: Windows 10
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1168760)
That looks nothing like my screen Less.:)
I only have one post it note on my screen.
It says 'Avoid Windows 10 - don't download KB3035583'
And I actually don't need the reminder....the number of this update is burned into my brain!

That isn't supposed to demonstrate your screen now, it's the way it will look after you are finally forced to use windows 10, the post it's are there so you don't have to look at windows 10 on your screen.


Margaret Pilkington 15-05-2016 19:47

Re: Windows 10
 
Oh.....so that's the future.
Maybe I should start saving for a Mac! :)

Restless 16-05-2016 17:00

Re: Windows 10
 
You will be assimilated!

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Restless 16-05-2016 17:02

Re: Windows 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BJS (Post 1166640)
PS I have not left WindowsXP

I would suggest a swift move from XP asap!


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