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darwendosser 03-03-2008 12:56

transfering info
 
could any one on this site give me informtion on how to transfer info ie [files documents photos] from one p.c. to another

entwisi 03-03-2008 14:03

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network is teh easiest, CD, DVD are others, big memory sticks are another, putting teh old PCs disk as a slave in teh new PC even temporarily is another

be careful for hidden files, e.g. email inbox etc

You didn't mention what OS /version

Ian

darwendosser 03-03-2008 15:07

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 539888)
network is teh easiest, CD, DVD are others, big memory sticks are another, putting teh old PCs disk as a slave in teh new PC even temporarily is another

be careful for hidden files, e.g. email inbox etc

You didn't mention what OS /version

Ian

i dont know what you mean by os/version

nikkival 03-03-2008 15:28

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Originally Posted by darwendosser (Post 539901)
i dont know what you mean by os/version

OS = operating system. Windows, Linux etc

darwendosser 03-03-2008 17:31

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all this high tech talk does my head in, all i need is for someone to explain to me in laymans terms how to get my files form one p.c. to another thanks

cashman 03-03-2008 21:15

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Originally Posted by darwendosser (Post 539997)
all this high tech talk does my head in, all i need is for someone to explain to me in laymans terms how to get my files form one p.c. to another thanks

yeh i'm as numb as you with computers,but what he wants to know is yer system Windows?

entwisi 03-03-2008 21:20

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OK, I only had a minute to post teh last one,

What version of windows is teh old PC, what version teh new one.

How do you connect to teh Net, via a Router/wireless point or a modem (What ISP that will probably tell me)

Are you able to startup both PCs at the same time?

How much data are we talking about? 1 gig, 10 gig, 100 gig?

let me know and I'll see what options are teh best for you.

dezt 18-03-2008 07:48

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go and buy a usb memory stick, 2Gb - 4Gb. then copy everything onto that frrom the old computer and copy it onto the new computer. Depending on how much data you have depends on how many times you have to make the trip between the 2 computers.


Surely you don't need to know the os of both computers, if he isn't to techy then it's safe to assume he is running windows, at a guess XP, i can't see the old one running 98se so there would be no problem with usb driver issues.

Less 18-03-2008 09:32

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Surely you don't need to know the os of both computers, if he isn't to techy then it's safe to assume he is running windows, at a guess XP, i can't see the old one running 98se so there would be no problem with usb driver issues.

It helps to know the o.s. when sorting out problems.

Of course the old p.c. could be running on 98 or an even older o.s. that's why entwisi asked, guessing that it is xp is not a very good way of solving this or any other problem associated with P.C.'s.

Just as guessing that the P.C. now being used has xp on it, it may have but then again it may not. (the user may not be a techie, but the person that supplied it just might have been).

The larger and more accurate the amount of information someone supplies the more chance that person has of getting help.:)

dezt 18-03-2008 15:34

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Ok then, if you need to know the os so be it. but it is most likely going to be windows and not linux or os X. best thing to without knowing anything is to open the pc up, unplug the cdromdrive and plug the old pc hard drive in and boot into windows. then you can access everything on the old pc hard drive.

Even if the old pc was as old as windows 95, 3.11, 3.1 or NT4, you can still access the old hard drive in the new pc if it is XP.

lancsdave 18-03-2008 16:15

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Originally Posted by dezt (Post 547748)
Ok then, if you need to know the os so be it. but it is most likely going to be windows and not linux or os X. best thing to without knowing anything is to open the pc up, unplug the cdromdrive and plug the old pc hard drive in and boot into windows. then you can access everything on the old pc hard drive.

Even if the old pc was as old as windows 95, 3.11, 3.1 or NT4, you can still access the old hard drive in the new pc if it is XP.


If somebody doesn't know which operating system they have on their PC it's hardly likley they are going to feel comfortable doing that.

MargaretR 18-03-2008 17:32

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He has told me that he managed to move the stuff he needed using CD writing facility.
He works long hours and doesn't get much chance or time to learn the technicalities.

Less 18-03-2008 17:52

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Originally Posted by dezt (Post 547748)
Ok then, if you need to know the os so be it. but it is most likely going to be windows and not linux or os X. best thing to without knowing anything is to open the pc up, unplug the cdromdrive and plug the old pc hard drive in and boot into windows. then you can access everything on the old pc hard drive.

Even if the old pc was as old as windows 95, 3.11, 3.1 or NT4, you can still access the old hard drive in the new pc if it is XP.

Why unplug the cd rom that you assume it has?
Why not just assume that it has an extra bay and he can run one as master and the other as slave, assuming he can guess all the connections and which to make the master and which as slave?

No I assume you mean he can assume that he has done all the correct things just by throwing everything into the air and seeing where it lands.

Assumptions can be some of the most expensive things associated with a P.C.

I hope he ignores your advise and really does get in touch with entwisi, he will have a chance of a working computer if he follows his advice!

Can I assume you agree?

:alright:

dezt 18-03-2008 18:53

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if he got in touch with entwisi he will have told him what os is on the pc's. but seen as he has used a cd writter to transfer the data accross there's no point.

Why did I bother trying to help, all you (less) can do is hurl abuse at me questioning my knowledge. but it sounds like both computers had a cd drive, hence using the cd writter to transfer data. how much it practical experience do you have in the industry, not fixing minor problems that you have at home.

lancsdave 18-03-2008 19:01

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Why not just assume that it has an extra bay and he can run one as master and the other as slave,
Extra bay ? My slave drive dangles on the end of the cable :D

dezt 18-03-2008 20:05

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My slave drive dangles on the end of the cable
That's exactly how we used to transfer data between 2 drives at my last job, who needs to screw the drive in....

Less 19-03-2008 08:49

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Originally Posted by dezt (Post 547959)
if he got in touch with entwisi he will have told him what os is on the pc's. but seen as he has used a cd writter to transfer the data accross there's no point.

Why did I bother trying to help, all you (less) can do is hurl abuse at me questioning my knowledge. but it sounds like both computers had a cd drive, hence using the cd writter to transfer data.

But you posted in post number 10 about the hard drives, Margaret didn't mention it having a c.d. rom until post 12, so you were working blind. Unless your clairvoyant you couldn't have even assumed that he had a rom drive.

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how much it practical experience do you have in the industry, not fixing minor problems that you have at home.
Not that it's any of your business, but I have had more years to do with not only using and repairing computers within the electronics industry than you have had on this earth, (some of us have been working on computers since the 60's).

If you are 'in' the computer business, then I would not go around bragging about:-
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My slave drive dangles on the end of the cable
That's exactly how we used to transfer data between 2 drives at my last job, who needs to screw the drive in....
That is an absolute cowboy job and fits exactly with your standard of advice. It may be just about acceptable for lancsdave to do that at home, (Dave that can lead to many problems and death of the drive), but for someone getting paid, to produce such shoddy workmanship? that is a disgrace!

Perhaps that is why you described it as 'your last Job'?

dezt 19-03-2008 15:47

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Perhaps that is why you described it as 'your last Job'?
maybe if you actually thought about it, i left the company and moved on to better things. if you have been working with computers for more years than i've been alive then surely you will know that there is more than one way to fix a problem.

All I did was offer two solutions that I thought would have got the job done in the shortest time.

As for hard drives dangling off cables i've seen all the big companies engineers do the exact same thing.

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but for someone getting paid, to produce such shoddy workmanship? that is a disgrace!
Who said that was how the computers were produced? I merely said that was how we transfered data from on hdd to another quickly.

Less 21-03-2008 22:21

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Originally Posted by dezt (Post 548395)

I merely said that was how we transfered data from on hdd to another quickly.

You didn't merely state! you admitted that you (and other members of that work force?).

Are prepared to work with a job half done, it doesn't take long to slip the drive into a bay and and fasten a few screws, if you don't know the consequences that can and do happen by only being bothered to do half a job then you are in no fit state to advise anybody else.

Learn how things are done correctly, always attempt to do things correctly, double check what you last did and maybe then, but only then can you consider yourself competent to help others.

If all you can advise is, "Oh just do half the job, it doesn't matter how it looks or that it isn't good practice so long as it works", then please leave entwisi to advise, get on your horse and ride into the sunset like the good little cowboy you are.

Come back and show us all how it's done when you know the difference between good and bad engineering practice, there are plenty out there you can learn from, I know there are, I helped several of them get through college.

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dezt 22-03-2008 11:36

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Learn how things are done correctly, always attempt to do things correctly, double check what you last did and maybe then, but only then can you consider yourself competent to help others.
Ok, fair enough, what may work for me might not be the best course of atcion for people who are not as confident as me, I suppose my advice could result in larger problems if the drive was to slip and short the motherboard.

Next time I give any advice i'll make sure that it is not going to cause any other problems if something slips.

@Entwisi - I am not saying anything bad about the way you went about offering your advise, it was very professional.

Less 22-03-2008 19:48

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Originally Posted by dezt (Post 550041)
Ok, fair enough, what may work for me might not be the best course of atcion for people who are not as confident as me, I suppose my advice could result in larger problems if the drive was to slip and short the motherboard.

Next time I give any advice i'll make sure that it is not going to cause any other problems if something slips.

@Entwisi - I am not saying anything bad about the way you went about offering your advise, it was very professional.

Thank You, now perhaps we can learn together?

Cos' nobody can do it on their own!
:)

onlyme 22-03-2008 21:30

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Tum ti tum, is it safe to come out yet?


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