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Yes,it is a shame, I'm getting tired of the pre decimal pocket change and ring pulls.
I don't do that Facebook thingy but I'll PM you and perhaps we can sort something out,maybe your friend could join the forum and share his info on here? :)

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Here are today's spoils from a couple of hours detecting:-
1.A buckle
2.Three and a half pence in pre decimals
3.A threepenny bit
4. 28p in spendable coins
5.A unknown object stamped with the word "Germany" (probably roman :D)

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Conditions were tough....long grass,rocky soil and the ever present danger of dog muck.
I started detecting with nothing and i'm please to say I've most of it left ;)

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I decided to have a afternoon stroll with the detector today,2 hours 12 ringpulls,2 broken bottles with lids and 3 rusty old cans later i decided it was time to come out of all metal mode and go into coin mode.
Here are the spoils which include:-
1.a shilling (old 5p)
2.a silver sixpence :dancedog:
3. a cats eye (road safety item not a real cats eye)
4. a copper ring/washer
5. a small cog type item
6. a Georgey porgey half penny
7. 8p in spendable change
8. a unknown shoe stud type item :confused:

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Jason, it is going to take you a long time and a lot of digging to get rich at this rate.
Still, if it keeps you happy and gets you out in the fresh air, it can't all be bad.

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He hasn't found enough to pay for the batteries yet!

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My pal has had some very good hauls from around reservoirs...there were a lot of workers who were paid in cash(who also enjoyed a drink) and subsequently lost a good bit of their wages. Also the land at the back of Fishmoor res net to Queens park hospital brought up quite a few temperance medals...

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All that digging does take its toll on your back at my dotage M :D
It opens the lungs and gets me out the house that's good enough for me.

Not being one to flout the law,I've found it rather difficult to secure land to detect on so I jump at the chance and you just don't know when I may stumble across that Accrington hoard ;).

Metal detector £140
Pin pointer £90
Spade £25
Trowel £15
Gloves £3
Jewellers eye glass £5
Batteries £5
Coin display pouches £5
Coin cleaning kit £4
Knee pads £5
My time £ ????

But the feeling when you dig that hole find something shiny....priceless...well close enough.
And I've found 5 spendable one pound coins....enough to cover my battery expenses :p

I'll have to get try and get permission from the water board and take a trip out sometime,coins are nice but I prefer the unusual stuff.
The only military stuff I've had is old (live) bullets.

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Think these"Temperance Medals" may not be quite the Military medals you're hoping for. ;)

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If they sell then I'll dig for them ;)...folk even buy rusty old ring pulls :eek:

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I got out metal detecting again for a few hours this morning.I hit one of my pasture permissions which is fairly clean as far as rubbish goes.
To be honest, I did dig a fair few bits of (s)crap but its always a welcome treat when you have a day like today and find a array of different objects including coins :dancedog:

Here are the objects of note and there is a dollop of green (karma) for the first person to correctly ID the object in the last pic as i haven't the foggiest.

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I've just got back from a few hours in the rain doing a little detecting on a new local permission.
I went for a walk and ended up bumping into a nice chap who had a largish plot of land with a footpath running through it and after a little talking he said i could detect on it.
At first he was talking about legal contracts :eek: and how if i found treasure he wanted half (a fair percentage).I told him i preferred a good old fashioned handshake and a bit of trust and eventually he came around and agreed.so i cut my walk short and went home for the detector.
After id finished, i did go to show him the spoils but after a quick glance he seemed distant and uninterested :(
Anyhow,here is the 'treasure' ;)

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Also,is there any chance this thread can be moved to the hobbies section?

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Today i had a list of things to do and metal detecting wasn't on it.
By about 2 oclock I'd managed to get all the chores/jobs done and Mrs E said "why don't you pop out metal detecting" as she had to pop into town to get some bits,She was hardly off the street and I was in the car :D
I decided to head up to my new pasture permission, the weather was lovely and the sunshine was kissing my cheeks :hothothot
It threw up some interesting bits,including a few pre decimals,a Accy coop token and one piece in particular that intrigues me a little pedant with the words "Wembley Exhibition 1924"...any ideas anyone?
Afterwards,I went to show the landowner but he wasn't impressed by my spoils...I even offered him any item he liked....still no interest :(

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British Empire exhibition 1924 souvenir, probably.

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I think your right D,I've had a look and you can pick them up for peanuts on a popular auction site.
Still,it's a nice little personal item to add to my finds collection ;)

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I've been out for a couple of hours this evening on my new pasture permission,I decided to trawl the footpath and it ended up throwing up a few interesting bits including some coins :alright:
I found my first 1930s florin,a lead buyton/dress weight,a silver 3pence,a rusty brooch,a Carolina moon badge,a pro valetudine charm and a few bits of pre decimal pocket change.

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After a long day (listening to our peg),I needed some quiet time so i got the detector and had a wander to my pasture permission.
The weather was nice and now the farmer knows me a little better he has said i can go on the fields whenever i like.
After a couple of hours and once the sun started disappearing,It soon got chilly so i decided to call it a day.

The finds of note are:

7 old half pennies
4 old one pennies
2 threepenny bits
2 dog tags
2 yale keys
1 Carabiner Clip
1 pound coin
1 rotting spoon
1 1933 George V shilling :dancedog:


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I was up bright eyed and bushy tailed this morning so after a few odd jobs i decided to have a hour or so detecting on my pastured permission.

The finds of note are:

3 threepenny bits
2 old half pennies
2 Howard and bullough tokens
2 buttons
1 old 1910 penny and the pièce de résistance a ring that i suspect is costume jewelry.

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I had a couple of hours out with the detecting stick this evening.

The finds of note are:

6 old half pennies
3 old one pennies
2 six pence's
1 pound coin
1 threepence and a button :dancedog:

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Half pennies? Pennies? Threepence's? Buttons?

That's all you ever find. Where are you detecting? Round an old workhouse?:confused:

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I prefer them sort of coins to live bullets but they are getting rather boring :D
I go detecting on a local farmers field that's got a owd footpath running through it.
I'd love to find Roman or medieval treasure but securing permission for them sort of sites (ribchester etc) is difficult due to detecting clubs and rallies paying landowners to keep the lone detectorists away.
The only other thing woud be to go "nighthawking" but im not prepared to do that.
Where did you go when you engaged in the hobby and did you ever find anything of value?

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I managed to fit in a couple of hours with the detector this weekend.
I decided to do around on a different section of the field that i detect on,it was overgrown but i could still swing the detector :D...it ended up producing both recent and some older bits :dancedog:

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Join one of the clubs-you'll get access to good sites and access to lots of expertise.
I never found anything valuable but had lots of fun.
Look up the sites of old country fairs etc. There's one in Brindle where there was a cross country horse race with a fair, didn't find anything but didn't spend long enough there. The fun was finding an old man in the village who remembered it and where it was. He told us some interesting stories, again part of the fun.
The old country fairs were usually in farmers field so they might give you permission.
Try beaches, drop something in the sand and it needs a metal detector to find it. Found money and the odd ring there(cold makes fingers shrink,rings loose).

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Cheers for the advice.
I've spent a little bit of my detecting time yapping to folk about local history and how they can remember this and that,as you say it's part of the fun :)
I've just remembered,there was a donkey Derby that use to be in a farmers field in huncoat (might be worth a look).

I was thinking letters or maybe sending a email might be a better way of seeking permission,from the older historical sites, but I can see them just being ignored.

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I've just got back from a 3 hour walk with the detecting stick around Hambledon hill reservoir aka Mary Hoyles Well,the ground was very rocky and digging was tough :(

The spoils include:-

6 old half pennies
4 old pennies
4 buttons
1 silver band/ring
1 pound coin
1 threepence
1 fishing reel handle
1 candlestick holder and the pièce de résistance a 1897 "Widow Head" silver shilling :dancedog:

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Now that i have full blown metal detecting fever :D, i popped out again this morning with the hound for about a hour or so on my permission field.
I found a few bits of rubbish at first then the interesting stuff started making a appearance.
Before i knew it,it was time to come home :(

The spoils of note include:-

4 old pennies
2 buttons
1 1865 Napoleon III 10 centimes coin
1 unknown token?
1 bullet with projectile
1 yale key and a musket ball :)

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I managed to get out again for a few hours detecting this afternoon, i met a chap who was out walking his hound (a right bundle of joy) "Tha wont find much up here lad" was his opening line.
I showed him a boys brigade buckle and a handful of coins that i'd found,"tha`s just lucky" he said "no sh1t Sherlock" i thought to myself as i forced out a smile.
Anyhow, it turned out to be a good afternoon with some interesting bits.

The items of note include:-

6 old half pennies
3 pound coins
1 threepence
1 Irish 1/2d penny
1 boys brigade belt buckle
1 old penny
1 lead figurine of a chap with red trousers
1 figurine of a hound sat down
1 silver colored button
1 unknown object and 13p in coppers

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Today Mrs E has been at a friends....You know what that means...that's right....detecting time :D.
Now the farmer knows me he has allowed me to go on his other fields,so that's what I decided to do.
We had a little chat,"There was a house on that field years ago" said the farmer,i was itching to get detecting so without being too abrupt i swiftly ended the conversation and headed to the field he had pointed out.
What a day :hothothot,it was signal after signal and hardly any rubbish.

The items of note are:

16 old pennies (various dates)
4 silver sixpences
3 old half pennies (various dates)
1 Farthing
1 threepence
1 silver teapot charm
1 bullet projectile
1 1902 2 heller coin and £2.30 in spendable coins.


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I managed to get out again for a hours detecting this afternoon,I thought i'd try a different location.
The ground was full of rubbish (ringpulls,cans etc),I didn't find much apart from a owd jacket hook and a 1914 silver 50 centimes :(


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I did make a video of my past finds if anyone is struggling to sleep :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHbRZzzWLjo

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Keen to continue my silver streak, I ventured out to my local permission this morning,I know a small field that i haven't done yet so I headed there (I wasn't disappointed) :dancedog:

The spoils of note included:-

4 old half pennies
2 old pennies
2 buttons (1 blank,1 with a coat of arms)
1 silver sixpence
1 silver threepence
1 silver item of jewelry
1 silver earring
1 6d Accrington co-op token and a few bullet casings

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Anyone any ideas on this token I found the other day?
It says "CAMBELLS ALHAMBRA PALACE BLACKBURN"

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Pre paid token for the theatre/playhouse?

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That's what I assumed,then again, I assumed getting a vasectomy would stop Mrs E and I from having kids....


....apparently it just changes the kids skin pigmentation :)


The only thing I can find on the WWW is this token:-
Token - Victoria & Albert Museum - Search the Collections

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Time to get your thinking caps on folks,anyone any idea on this brooch/medal/object?

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Green karma for the first correct answer :)

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Maybe some kind of victory badge?

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That was my guess too,but I can't figure out who the chap in the centre is :confused:

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At first I thought George V and WW1 but hard to compare so not sure.

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I found my first £2 coin today :dancedog:

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Today I found a (made in England) lead Indian figurine :alright:

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Anyone any ideas on this item I found today?

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Anything on the other side ?

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Interesting. Light up times every Saturday, month, date(every 7 days) light up time.
I thought it might read 1903 but the dates don't match Saturday that year.
Can you clean it up a bit so we can read more?

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It's badly corroded,it has a similar design:-
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It definatly says 1903,it's got me intrigued,I was thinking some sort sun/planet reading device :confused:

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TIME
LIGHT UP
SATURDAY
1903(?) in the centre.
Trouble is those dates are Sundays that year.

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It's a 1903 Matchless Metal Polish Calender Advertising Token (apparently).
Still,it's half the fun finding something and researching it :)

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Something similar - 1912 Medal Calendar Advertisement Matchless Metal Polish Liverpool | eBay

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They ran from July one year to June the next, double sided. The times for lighting up look about right, changing up and down over the year. Some were just calenders.
As you say, fun researching it.

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Here are the rest of today's spoils:-

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Dog whistle in the middle?

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Yes,that was a "surface find"...

..here's one I dug the other day:-

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I think that one is more a forces/police whistle though :)

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I also dug up this hexagon shaped (cricket umpires?) article.
It's engraved with the words "no ball,caught,LBW" etc.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owzthat

It's a part from a game called "Owzthat" I vaguely recall playing it round a cricket mad mates house, that & subutteo on wet weekends. Funnily enough he was called David Lloyd & came from Blackpool.

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Cheers for that D,go to the top of the class,I didn't have the foggiest what it was.
I could get my head around why a umpire would need such a article.

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Here's another little object I found a small thimble like object with a green (glass?) dice inside.
However,I can't see folk back in the day being able to put the dice marking on a glass dice without it breaking :confused:


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I believe it is a thimble & it's being used to protect the glass dice in this instance.

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I'll take your word for it R.
I know with modern day lasers etc it would be easy to mark the glass but I erroneously assumed that due to its size,approximately half inch squared, the surface area would be extremely difficult to work with the technology of days gone by without it shattering....

...we live and learn :)

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I have a thimble identical to that one (same pattern) - owned by my grandmother - look for a hallmark - mine is silver.

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Sadly,there is no hallmark so I suspect it's probably a mixture of other metals :(
That being said,there is no signs of corrosion something that would be obvious if it was a mixture of metals.

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Today's items of note include:-

2 shoe buckles?
2 old pennies (1898&1896)
1 ARP (cap badge?)
1 decapitated lead figure
1 old 10p coin and £6.40 in spendable coins.

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Any golfers out there know what this item was used for?

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Looks like a spinning top which determines play or forfeit in a game I know nothing about..

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its the Golf equivalent of the cricket game one you found in an earlier post

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Put and take game -
http://averweij.web.cern.ch/averweij/top-pt.htm

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Today's finds of note include:-

2 old pennies (1867 & 1919)
1 half a crown (1948)
1 handgranade (key charm?)

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Today's finds of note include:-

2 10p coins
2 £1 coins
1 Madness badge
1 9ct gold love heart pedant :alright:
1 old penny
1 old half penny

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I only had a couple of hours on the local park today,The items of note are:-

2 dog tags
2 old half pennies
1 old penny
1 1977 quarter (25 cent)
1 old tie clip
1 threepenny bit
1 Theakston brewery badge
1 the wizard comic free gift (1950s) pendant

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Your Quarter is in actuality "Old Dutch" a "Kwartje" from the days of the Guilder before the surrender to the loathsome Euro. :)

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I decided to have a hour or so in a undisclosed location,and I took my detecting stick....

...Items of note include:-

10x fishing weights
2x£1 coins
1 screwdriver bit
1 old penny
1 50pence piece
1 threepenny bit
1 unknown token (with a hole) and 1 chestermans vintage tape measure.


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There's no lettering on the end it's actually hollow at the narrow end and has a small piece of metal in the larger end.

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I spent 4.5hrs swinging the detector today and only found these three coins :(

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Time for a round up of finds so far

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Silvers....minus Mrs E's coins for her braclets :(
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Buttons
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Some of my Pennies and half pennies
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threepences
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Ammo :eek:
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Just realised,one of today's coins is a George the 3rd 1806 Penny :alright:

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Good find!

New series of The Detectorists starts tomorrow on BBC4

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I came across this tree stump in the middle of a woods and it had a variety of (modern) coins forced into the surface...I didn't take any of them :alright:

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5hrs detecting and only 9 finds of note :(, perhaps i've been spoilt and i'm asking too much of my new permission :D..

..Anyhow,the items include:-

3 old pennies (early 1900s)
3 pendants (1 Ralph Lauren,1 fish lady and 1 much older)
1 George the 3rd "cartwheel" penny (1796 i think,I don't want to clean it too much)
1 20p coin
1 old half penny

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I decided to frame some of my finds,it's not quite finished but it's looking ok :)

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I decided to have a hour swinging the detector on a local park this morning :)

The items of note are:-

1 old penny (1964)
1 old half penny
1 silver chain clasp (no chain :()
1 £2 coin
1 £1 coin
1 20p coin
1 badge clasp

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Another of my masterpieces or "tat" as Mrs E calls it :D

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Green karma coming way Steve,it is a copper WWII General Jan smuts V for victory badge.

"Smuts' importance to the Imperial war effort was emphasised by a quite audacious plan, proposed as early as 1940, to appoint Smuts as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, should Churchill die or otherwise become incapacitated during the war. This idea was put by Sir John Colville, Churchill's private secretary, to Queen Mary and then to George VI, both of whom warmed to the idea."

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Are you kidding? Smut is an essential, always has been & always will be for juvenile, pubescent lads humour for generations. :D

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To cut a long story short,I managed to secure permission to dig on a bit of land in Yorkshire while me and our peg was visiting friends,it was rumoured that military buttons had been found on this land after turning over the soil so I was itching to have a swing :)
Anyhow,I manged to find quite a few interesting bits including a lead seal,a few old pennies,a sixpence and a few military buttons :alright:
I've only got access to my phone at min so I can't upload multiple pics at once :(

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Here is a better shot of the buttons and what I assume is a lead seal.If anyone has a idea of age,rank or regiment I'd appreciate it (I may gift a little karma too ;)).
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The 2 at the bottom right are standard American military, above them, the RAC badge appears to be just your bog standard Road Association Corp emblem rather than the Armoured Corp. As to the rest, top left bog standard 1930's/40's/50's military buttons. Not sure of bottom left, middle or top right, a bit more cleaning & tidying may give you some answers. :)

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Once again, I bow to your superior military knowledge D.
I thought the darker buttons with the eagle on were Polish,I should of known ;)

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Hi All

i just thought you might be interested to know.

I was out metal detecting about a six weeks ago near to the Kings Highway. After about an hour of finding nothing but bullets buried three to four inches deep, I was most interested to receive a signal on my detector reading seven inches deep, so out came the trowel and down i went. I was very pleased indeed to find at about nine inches deep a James 1st silver sixpence. It is not in the best of condition but you can see what it is and it is dated 1603.

As I stood up and looked across Accrington and beyond I tried to imagine what the person who last held this coin could see. I am sure it would not have been the Tesco, Railway Viaduct or Express gifts in the distance.
I would guess the coin had been under the ground at the very least three hundred yours.

This is the second of my three hammered coins that i have found in the two years that i have been metal detecting

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Hi Rentlaw

The bullets that i have been finding are to the southern side of Hameldon and the northern side above Mitchell's Reservoir. The fields are littered with bullets, there must be thousands of them.

I believe that part of this area was used as a dummy air field during the second world war. I cant say for sure if this is right or not.
Anyway I was detecting the area I believe to be the air field when I picked up a signal different to the one given off for the bullets. So out came the trowel and down I went and guess what I found, an RAF cap badge.

Also when you stand in what i call the air raid shelter and look through the missing brick in the blast wall you will notice that the dry stone walls have been laid in such a fashion as to give the affect of an air field. I also believe that there was dummy areoplanes built from a type of cardboard on the site

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It may have been mentioned elsewhere, but try these. :)

Hameldon Hill decoy site is one of five sites set up to defend Accrington.

http://aircrashsites.co.uk/air-raids...es/accy-leadn/

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Yes thanks for that Rentlaw. I suppose the bullets could have come from the riffle range at Hapton, but there really are thousands of them up there.

You seem to be very knowledgeable about the area around Greater Hameldon Hill. I was wondering if you could shed any light on a tail I was told about the Gamblers Caves.

About five years ago I had sold something to two guys (farther and son) on the internet, these guys lived in Burnley. As they came to collect the item they had bought the older of the two asked me if there was a road near my area that went up onto Hameldon Hill and to some caves he had been told about. I told him of The Kings Highway and Sandy Lane, but none of these road names rang a bell with him. Then he mentioned a chap that lived on the road he was thinking of that owned a factory in Burnley. I then realized he was talking about Plantation Road, and I was correct.
So now for the interesting bit.
The chap lived in the Arden Hall Coach House on Plantation Road.
Now I am not sure how this chap was connected with the MOD but I guess he must have been in some way.
As this chap said that during the Second World War the gamblers Caves was used as an ammunition dump for the allies. This chap witnessed with his own eyes this dump being stocked with arms and ammunition. Apparently these ammunition dumps were dotted all over the North of England and Scotland and obviously their positions were kept top secret. They were there to aid the allies if retreating from a German invasion.
At first I thought no it can’t be true. But then I thought why would someone quarrying for sand stone drift an hole into the rock face to extract stone, surely it would be far easier for them to just open quarry the sand stone.
It would also explain the armed military guards all around the southern side of Greater Hameldon keeping people away from the site.
The chap also said that after the war the entrance to the cave was blown up sealing it for ever with the ammunition still in it. That would explain the pile of rocks just inside the cave that looked like a natural cave in.
Also about 10 years ago some guy got permission once again to extract stone from the quarry but was told under no circumstances has he to remove stone from the cave.

I hope you can understand all this as my English is not the best in the world

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Thanks For the links.

Very interesting

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There is no truth to that story, that place which was known as the Gamling caves is actually a place wher stone was quarried from a rock face it went in no more than 10 yards, and there was practically no vehicular access except for horses, ( its not far from the place you mentioned in the last thread) As for storing Ammo in a cave Blooming Eck why would the do that in such an inaccesable place, the idea is laughable. That place called the Gambling caves not used by the gamblers but the flat area in front of it was, I watched them many a Sunday tossing 1/2 pennies from a little wooden block that fit over the first two fingers of the right hand, a couple of years back I got my daughter to take me up there in her car, the nearest access was via Rising Bridge then a trudge of about a 1/4 mile, when I found it, it had changed quite a lot, and some one had been quarrying there and in other places, there were sevaral new spoil dumps all over the area, they didn't seem to have got much useable stone why they bothered in the first place beats me, there are plenty of other places to quarry wth better access. Another reason for why there would be no ammo dumped there, ammo containing Cordite deteriorates very rapidly in damp conditions and the nitro glycerine in the Cordite leaches out and the slightest bump or spark and youve got one ell of a bang, most un-needed ammo is dumped at sea for tht very reason, the bottom of the Irish Sea & the Channel is littered with the stuff. One last tthng that shows hes blowing hot air, that all that area was part of a decoy site, which jerry was expected to bomb instead of Salford and Manchester, storage area for arms and ammo gior mon.

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Its no wonder they needed the Yanks to help out during the second world war then is it. If as you imply the British army would find a place like the Gamblers Caves in inaccessible. Now that is what I call laughable.

As for access. If an horse and cart can get there then why not a truck or tracked vehicle

Also we are talking about a retreating army. Now I am pretty sure they would not want their reserve ammo out on show for the enemy to bomb.

As you state about damp ammo being dangerous I am sure you are right. But then again how did they keep it dry in the trenches during the first world war.
Hell that place was even wetter than Accrington.

And the armed guards on all the pathways leading to the area. I find it hard to believe that they was guarding a dummy airfield.

Yes you are correct, ten yards into the cave is all you could get, but this was due to the roof of the cave collapsing in. Unless you was around before the roof collapsed.
When you say you watched gambling going on up there, Was this before or after the war?

Anyway I am not going to get into an argument with you about it. I also know the area extremely well and we both have our own ideas about what went on up there.

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As for access. If an horse and cart can get there then why not a truck or tracked vehicle

Also we are talking about a retreating army. Now I am pretty sure they would not want their reserve ammo out on show for the enemy to bomb.
EH Don't talk so daft what retreating army, Britain was on the offensive when they started building those moorland sites
As you state about damp ammo being dangerous I am sure you are right. But then again how did they keep it dry in the trenches during the first world war.
Hell that place was even wetter than Accrington.
Damp ammo doesn't deteriorate immediately it takes time other wise the Navy would have had nowt to fire their guns with, they used Cordite in cloth bags.

And the armed guards on all the pathways leading to the area. I find it hard to believe that they was guarding a dummy airfield.

Yes you are correct, ten yards into the cave is all you could get, but this was due to the roof of the cave collapsing in. Unless you was around before the roof collapsed.
When you say you watched gambling going on up there, Was this before or after the war?
I watched them gambling after the war but I knew the area well before the war as I said we were no longer allowed access to pick the whimberries, and that cave was like that before the war, Those guards weren't guarding a dummy air field, they were keeping people away for security reasons, like the old watime posters use to say careless talk costs lives
Anyway I am not going to get into an argument with you about it. I also know the area extremely well and we both have our own ideas about what went on up there.
You might know the area pretty well as it is now, but unless you as old as me you won't know it a 1/4 of what I do. But if you want to believe what that chap from Burnley told you then carry on, I feel sorry for you.

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Ok
You are right and I am wrong.
Are you happy now

Now then what are your thoughts on the hollows on the top of Moleside or the snipe hole to the east of Mitchells. I guess you know all the history about those sites as well.

Also what was the flooded underground stone chamber that is at the very foot of the western side of Greater Hameldon used for.
Please can you tell me where the Elizabethan lead mines were situated on Hameldon. I would be very interested to hear where you think they were situated.

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If you want a history lesson please start a new thread this thread is about metal detecting only thanks

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I managed to get out on a local field for a couple of hours today,I found quite a few bits of trash at first but after a tweak the coins started rolling in including two silver shillings and a sixpence :)

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i Guess you dont know as much as you thought about Hameldon after all

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Sorry Mick, I know you want this thread to return to the subject of Metal Detecting but before it does I feel I must put my two bob’s worth in.

Not sure if you meant it to come across like it has, disco, but you do sound quite rude to Retlaw. If you have read previous threads and postings by him you will know he is a mine of information and extremely knowledgeable. He has helped many Accywebbers (including me).

Now perhaps, like Mick has requested, this thread can continue re metal detecting – which I for one am finding very interesting, mainly due to AccyX. You've certainly found lots of things AccyX - hope you find a real treasure trove soon.