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Thanks, Margaret, I really do enjoy this sort of ‘sleuthing’, it’s great fun, and at least it keeps the old brain cells working (the ones that are still left, that is). I do a lot of it when researching our family history. I find it very rewarding when things fall into place and very frustrating when they don’t!
Thankfully this time it would seem it worked out OK. I just hoped I was following the family of the soldier whose medal it actually was, and not the wrong Joseph Bond. I agree with you that Jason and Mr. B's family will derive a lot of pleasure from this, and deservedly so. |
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Dotti, it also takes a lot of patience too...and you are right about it keeping the brain cells active(I'm all for that).
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Morning folks,just a little update regarding the medal,I have met Dorothy and her son and returned the medal to its rightful place.
Joseph Bond joined the Grenadier Guards (22/09/1916) and was posted to the 4th battalion. He was posted missing from the war at La Caronne,during one of the epic battles,and presumed killed in action in April 1918 but was later confirmed as a pow.He was a very brave man and awarded the British war and victory medals. I have a few photos to share (and a bottle of wine :D) but I only have access through my phone at the minute so I'll just upload them separately. I asked if they knew who it could of ended up lost and in the ground but sadly it remains a mystery. Dorothy and Nick also asked me to thank you all for your input in tracking them down and posting info they didn't even know about their relative. Reuniting it with them was,as Margaret says,gold of a different kind :) Attachment 52997 |
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I am really pleased that the medal has gone where it belonged. I am sure you feel very happy about it Jason......and that happiness cannot be priced.
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Jason I hope you don't mind, but I have turned this picture round so it makes it easier to view...well, if you do mind...it's too late :D
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This story belongs in the Accy Observer.
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It belongs on the North West News.....you know how the Observer can mangle a good story.
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Chuffed doesn't even come close to the feeling I got handing it over to Dorothy and her son M.
And as much as it is a great newsworthy story,due to numourus personal reasons, it won't be featuring in any of the local rags. Thanks for sorting out the picture,I don't know what's up with my phone but it won't upload pics as I want them. I've added one more pic of some the paperwork I received from the family but you may have to zoom in unless you can work her magic again :D Attachment 53002 |
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Jason, I have worked on this picture......I am not sure how successful it is. Here goes nothing.
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Even though I have combed that area already (believe me),I acted on your advice and took the detecting stick out for little hunt.
I didn't find another medal but I did find a few other bits. The finds of note are:- 2 pre decimal pennies 2 threepenny bits 1 silver sixpence 1 silver three pence 1 silver heart charm 1 old 10p 1 bling dog bone 1 silver coloured tag item 1 knackered old pedant Attachment 53015 They say "a field is never empty",the other medal may well just be hiding somewhere. |
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I think the thing in the middle is an ID capsule (Cats & Dogs), should be able to unscrew & the details are on a slip of paper inside.
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Ive had a hound for donkeys years, I'm obviously not as posh as some folk :D, all I've ever had is the engraved discs.
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Well, I decided to take the detecting stick out yesterday for a little hunt on a local permission.
It wasn't long before these two squires came over to watch as I dug out a little "coin spill" (about £3.40). They were loving it,they told me they had never seen anyone metal detecting before so I gave them a old penny each to take home. Then as we were talking about old coins etc I got a really strong signal which told me one thing,"it's a coin" I said. Their eyes grew larger as they gathered around anticipating what was about to come out the ground. I dug it and 2 old pennies popped out and they was like "wooooow".These guys couldn't believe it,they were blown away. I continued detecting and giving these two fellas a history lesson,they couldn't believe the bits that I was finding. I bet those two never look at a field the same way again,they are now not only hooked on history but metal detecting too :) The finds of note are:- 5 old pennies 4 £1 coins 2 old (ship) half pennies 2 20p coins 1 rotten farthing 1 (clock winder?) item with ornate top 1 love heart tag/pendant 1 ornate button 1 circular ornate (brooch?) item 1 square chest plate for a dog/horse harness. Attachment 53170 |
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It depends what you mean by 'do as I'm doing',all you really need is a detector,spade and a understanding landowner.
It helps,if you are going "cold calling" for permission to detect,if you have appropriate insurance too:- Membership I have permission from local councils to detect on certain open spaces (parks etc) as well as permission (from "cold calling") off some local farmers. Though I've never been,I also have a permit from the crown estates to detect on certain parts of the foreshore (not Bpool that would be down to local council). it's free if you want to apply:- http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/rura...t-application/ Also,I keep all my spendable coppers in a jar,if it was £1,£2 coins I'd be guilty ;) |
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Today,I decided to spend the day detecting on a new farm permission near Burnley.
The weather was stifling,but I soldered on and found a few interesting bits which included:- 1 old sink plug 1 ornate drawer handle 1 commemorative Lizzy medallion 1 Robertson's jam esquire (from the non PC madness era) 4 buckles £2.20 in spendable change and a few pre-decimal coins (including a George 3rd) Attachment 54280 |
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I'll guess that was an identity plate riveted to a sack to confirm it held 1 CWT of coal when full. Thats possibly how they sold it to the local coal merchants. |
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I'd like to call on the forums ID skills again with this one,can anyone help shed some light on this button I found the other day?
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Obviously a blue peter badge with John Noaks saying "Down Shep".
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I decided to have a couple of hours swinging the detecting stick yesterday,I didn't find much of any interest (the usual pre decimal coins etc).
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Mate, you should display your "Treasure" on a neutral background, that one was hard on the old eyeballs. :)
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I managed to get out for a couple of hours this afternoon,I found a few pre decimal pennies,a few snuff tins (50s-60s),a £1 coin and a weird (coin/trade weight?) object.
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Well,I had a reasonable days detecting (4hrs) on a local pasture permission today.
It started off with me digging lots of ring pulls,bottle tops and (s)crap and became more productive as I moved closer to the middle of the field. The finds of note are:- 3 pre decimal halfpennies 2 old lids 1 two shilling coin 1 readers digest token 1 buckle 1 spoon,32p and 3 unknown (button?) objects. Attachment 54496 Sorry if they are hard to see :) |
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Today, I decided to take a trip to the bottle dump with my detecting stick.
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What a morning,I decided to take the detecting stick for a stroll on a local permission field.Within 10mins I had collected 7 pound coins and a nice little ring.
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I decided to go back to the area that I did this morning and have a few more hours searching.
I can't believe it,I found another 2rings,a silver butterfly brooch and a duckhams motor oil keyring along with a few coins :alright: Attachment 54536 |
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No,I think they're just "tat" (just my luck :().
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I just checked a renowned auction site for the keyring I found today,I couldn't believe the price :eek:
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Just thought I would say hi and Wow! you guys have entertained me for a good few hours.
I am totally new to this website after stumbling across it looking for some info on old Huncoat, I've always been interested in those that have gone before and always fancied some 'stick shaking' as you call it Accyexplorer :p Maybe Santa will bring me my very own stick and I may see you out there in them there hills, until then I will watch from the sign lines and eagerly await the pictures of the spoils!! Oh and well done all involved in Mr Bonds medal saga, Im just a sucker for a good tail with a happy ending :D |
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Hi L,welcome to the forum. I'm Jason, you'll find me mostly in this section because life's too short to be taken too seriously plus I have plenty of free time to shake my stick :D Sometimes,I'll stick my oar in the other sections but that mainly just to stir the pot ;) You,and others,may be interested to know that you don't actually need your own stick to shake,there are clubs that offer the chance to go along and use one of their detectors to see if you enjoy the experience before forking out your hard earned cash. Anyhow,I hope Santa makes you happy,I may see you in rural Lancashire sometime :) |
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One of the rings from yesterday earned me some detecting time credit :dancedog:.
So today,I decided to go back to the fields in search of lost goodies. The weather wasn't bad and It wasn't long before I was into my first signal,after a short time digging out popped a 1890 one penny and in pretty decent condition too.I like the 1800's coins as the patina adds character. Abyway,after 3hrs searching, the finds of note are:- 2 303 rifle casings 1 old lighter 1 old watch 1 earring 1 (blank) button 1 lead spindle whorl 1 pound coin and a bit of pre decimal pocket change. Attachment 54542 |
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A bit of a mixed bag today,I decided to have a few hours in a local pasture permission.My first signal was similar to a ringpull tone but not quite the same,I wasn't going to even bother digging it but intrigued me.
I'm glad I did as it turned out to be a little pendant with a stone in the middle :alright: Anyhow,The finds of note are:- 2 pre decimal pennies 1 gold ear stud with a stone 1 little pedant 1 item that looks to be a centre piece (for a shield?) 1 metal ring (maybe used to tie a horse to). 1 old button Attachment 54554 |
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Today,I decided to go to Rishton Res and swing my thing for a few hours.
The ground was full of lead fishing weights,feeders and cans but I found a few intresting bits including a mobile phone,a 1868 penny and ny first axe head :alright: Attachment 54588 |
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Today,I managed to get into a field which until today (due to a tractor malfunction) has been off bonds.
I didn't need asking twice,I was over the fence and detecting on fresh turned soil in a heartbeat. It wasn't long before my detector started screaming. I started digging and then,as a little clump of soil fell back into the hole i'd just dug, a Elizabeth the 1st (1570) half groat... "Yes" I yelled.The farmer came over to see why I shouted then quickly departed (shaking his head) once I showed him the coin. Anyway,I had a couple of hours on this new part of the farm,the finds of note are:- 1 1860 penny 1 "bullhead" sixpence (183?) 1 Lizzy half groat 1 stamped cutlery handle... ...did I mention I had my first hammered coin :dancedog: Attachment 54596 |
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Today,secretly wanting the tractor to still be broke,I decided to go back to the farm and have a few hours detecting.
It wasn't to be,as I drove down the lane I could see the tractor and farmer in what I'm calling 'the good field'. I decided to detect in the field nearest to the road,I'm not over keen on it as you always get folk wanting to chat as they walk by,if I had a pound for everytime I've heard "have ya found owt?". As I was detecting away,is wasn't long when I heard it "have ya found owt?" a voice shouted.I looked up and there was a chap giving me the universal 'thumbs up' hand gesture (could of been worse). I walked over and had a chat with him,as we discussed the best places to search (everyone's got a story) a funeral passed by. As a sign of respect, I took my cap off and the chap said "that's nice of you" As quick as a flash,I couldn't help saying " yes,well we was married for 30yrs"......his face was a picture :D Anyhow,on with the finds,the finds of note are:- 2 threpences 1 lady's watch 1 S shaped item (probably used to hang a oil lamp?) 1 two shillings coin 1 lead bag seal 1 (1800's) penny 1 (1800's) half penny [ATTACH]p[/ATTACH] |
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I managed get in a few hours detecting on local field this afternoon,I shouldn't have really done this as I've been a bit achy recently.
But you know how it goes when,your sat about,you start getting itchy feet plus the weather was pleasant and my batteries were fully charged so I thought it would be rude not to. Anyway,the bit of rain we had really seemed to have helped with the signals because I've gone over this field numerous times and I managed to get a good few bits. I was using my coin sniper setting which seems to work better for the deeper items.It wasn't long before I found a lovely (navy?,gold gilt anchor) button and a pocket watch within 15ft of each other. The finds of note are:- 3 buttons 2 and a half (corroded) coins. 1 pocket watch 1 musket ball 1 buckle 1 ear ring 1 handle (off a fishing reel?) 1 circular lead object (fishing weight?) Attachment 54637 |
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Not bad, is there any water nearby? Only ask because the circular knobbly thing is a sea fishing weight & I'd say your "Reel handle" is more likely an old window latch. :)
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Parts of the area were underwater years ago,it use to be a resiveour.
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It's not welded shut,but it's understandably not easy to open.
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Yes L,i think it's knackered, but it'll still make a nice eye catching piece on the shelf with the rest of my finds.
It just looks like an inexpensive base metal,far too cheap for my waistcoat, and from the condition (exceptionally well considering) it's not been in the ground too long but yet it's a old watch......Hmmm. I left it to soak in olive oil lastnight and I can't open it...I may have a professional look at it as I doubt I'll be happy with the results if I go to town on it with a tool kit. |
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Olive oil??? It's (or was) a time piece not a chunk of Tuna! :idunno:
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Ok,I thought olive oil may libricate it enough to perhaps be able to open it :o
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I managed to prise the back off the pocket watch,it must of been the olive oil,it looks knackered.
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Hi folks,I've not been out detecting for what feels like months,but I managed to get in 4hours this morning.
They say "there's no such thing as bad weather for detecting".....their wrong, the weather was a bit sharp plus it was raining :( Some folk find Roman/Bronze age items, I seem to have an affinity for pre-decimal pocket change (at approximately 3"-5" deep,They give a lovely clear signal). Now,Onto to the finds,nothing too amazing, but I did find a (badly worn) silver William 111 sixpence,a spindle whorl and a (Victorian?) candle snuffer :alright: The finds of note are:- 3 pre decimal half pennies 2 pre decimal pennies 1 silver William 111 sixpence 2 bag seals 1 candle snuffer 1 horse rein guide 1 dress pin 1 spindle whorl 1 musket ball and a couple of unknown bits. Attachment 54750 |
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I decided to make a display case to house some of my findings,Mrs E said "it's crap".....I like it :)
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The wrist watch furthest left looks similar to an Army issued model (G1098), articles to the left of & above the artillery cap badge also appear to be cap badges & the swastika looks to have an embellishment in the centre. Hard to say as the picture seems out of focus on enlargement.
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Well,I managed to get out today,I wanted to conduct an analysis of the land on a new permission which I managed to secure last week.
I was only suppose to spend a hour giving it a quick going over with the detecting stick but I ended up staying 3.5hrs :D I had a few notable bits including a toy cannon,a cap badge (unsure on the regiment) and a Nigerian one penny (never seen one before). Attachment 54782 |
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Very interesting :) I showed this photo to Himself (who hunted bear before he met me and was also in the militia here in Canada) and he thinks the top one is a dum/dum (whoever had it cut the bullet in half, not all the way through, so that when it hit, it would shatter and be devastating). The one down from that has a crimped front end which means it's probably a blank. The one down from that is just a shell casing - has been fired and looks like a .303 (or 7.62 NATO) The one below that is a fired .22 Long Rifle casing (he knows nothing about he coins but enjoyed seeing these :)
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Cheers for the info,my question is this,why are there so many bullets in the ground...IRA,modern day criminals or something less sinister?
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Looking at a live 9mm (check the base to see if the primer has been struck, if it has it's a misfire, so still dangerous & if not struck it's live, certainly dangerous) & your cap badge is more likely a collar dog of the "Royal Welch Fusiliers". :)
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The ammo I have found have all come from random parts of our town,to my knowledge, there's never been a rifle range nor is there any other logical explanation why they should be there.
The reason I remove them is that it's fairly common for dogs to sniff out where I've digging and then they have a go at digging....sadly, they don't know how to replace the soil afterwards which has lead to many heated conversations with the council and landowners. I'm going to hand them to the police tommrow so they can get shut without potentially putting others at risk. It looks as if it has been struck so i assume from the info it's a "misfire"? To give a idea of scale:- Attachment 54786 |
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