Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 972651)

Another which stands the test of time -love his blue nail varnish too, he has lovely hands.
"Deperir a gris":D

Visage - Fade To Grey - YouTube

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 972760)

Good video.

I know the girl who was in it with him, Princess Julia. Not really a princess, and now a successful DJ.

Steve Strange played Macmillian's in Liverpool, when the hits had dried up.

He was dreadful, and didn't get much appreciation.

:D

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 974460)

Sweet Dreams x

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974490)

Eurythmics started off as punks.:mad::rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 974491)

Did they? I bought their first few albums and I don't hear any punk influences. Do you mean when they were the Tourists?

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974490)

so who asked this dumb question in the first place

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974494)

They were originally called The Catch a punk band which evolved into The Tourists! ;) Then the Eurythmics!

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 974507)

Here's a challenge for you, Anne. Can you attach her version of Dear Prudence please.

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 974508)

I come on here on my mobile phone so I can't figure out if I can attach You Tube clips.

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 974491)

Did they? I bought their first few albums and I don't hear any punk influences. Do you mean when they were the Tourists?

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974494)

They were originally called The Catch a punk band which evolved into The Tourists! ;) Then the Eurythmics!

Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 974499)

Ah, I never knew that. I can't imagine Annie Lennox gobbing at the audience!

Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 974523)

Thank you! Now I know how to do it there'll be no stopping me, I'm going to bore everyone stupid - just blame Garinda for being such a good teacher!

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974525)

You're right to question the statement, because it's wrong.

Pre-Eurythmics Annie Lennox, and Dave Stewart were in the pop band The Tourists.

Whose musical roots were in folk rock.

About as punk as Pickettywitch.

:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 974543)

When I saw her in the Student's union in L'pool in '83 the only thing that left her body and went into the audience was her bra!:eek::D Think they were still the Tourists then...Great voice.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974658)

I was at that gig.

It was the Eurythmics.

You could have been rubbing yourself up against me, never knowing who I was.

Small world.

;)

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 974681)

How very dare you suggest such a thing.

I would have remembered I'm sure in any case...

Unless you were the tall, golden boy with the colgate smile?;):D
Colgate anniversary Ad - YouTube

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974526)

Pre-Tourists, Annie Lennox was in the group Dragon's Playground.

Who appeared on ITV's New Faces.

Very punk.

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 974565)

Ya I think Dave Stewart would be most peeved if he knew some people thought his musical roots were in Punk:rolleyes::D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 974565)

Ya I think Dave Stewart would be most peeved if he knew some people thought his musical roots were in Punk:rolleyes::D

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 974563)

Ya I once remember Wynonne showing somebody how to put YouTube links on here, nobody as ever forgiven him:D:D:D

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974701)

I don't think he'd give a toss about being called a punk! :)

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 974776)

Was never a fan of hers but the early arrival of spring has me thinking of summer:D

Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 974783)

A guilty pleasure don't tell wynonie

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 974699)

Who cares....

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974816)

We don't.

We expect you to be wrong.

Why don't you pop some middle of the road pap on, and have a little pogo?

Try Manhattan Transfer.

Now they really were hard core punk rockers.

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974816)

We don't.

We expect you to be wrong.

Why don't you pop some middle of the road pap on, and have a little pogo?

Try Manhattan Transfer.

Now they really were hard core punk rockers.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975897)

"WE" is the word , i,e you and you side kicks your "Accy web mafia" to quote Tommiasfc, - you are always making nice little bitchy comments! Go Bitch somewhere else! :cool:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974816)

We don't.

We expect you to be wrong.

Why don't you pop some middle of the road pap on, and have a little pogo?

Try Manhattan Transfer.

Now they really were hard core punk rockers.

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 971912)

Probably thought "if they can get away with playing that, you can get away with anything":rolleyes:

As to the Police - cream always floats to the top!:D

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 976409)

Howard Jones "What is Love" - YouTube

Much prefer these given a choice...

Howard Jones - Like To Get To Know You Well - YouTube

This one is a great video.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 976410)

A slightly older Howard Jones was on Breakfast TV yesterday mobertol:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 976406)

I like this one of theirs but its not just Punk is it?



Has some element of dance:D...and is more original.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 976725)

Also Greenday had a lot of hits more recent with a punk sound! Sold 65 Million records apparently!

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 976737)

So they are in good company, they have sold more than Johnny Cash, 1 million more than Lady Gaga, the same amount of Village People, very punk!
10 Million less than Journey, 35 million less than Dolly Parton, The Who, Paul Maccartney (solo) Janet Jackson! Britney Spears!
It gets better, 65 million less than Backstreet Boys!! :eek:Or even Genesis, so I will not need to throw away Foxtrot just yet:cool:

135 million less than Celine Dion or Mariah Carey! Or even my beloved Pink Floyd.
Abba sold between 200 and 300million, right when Punk was at its highest:D

Finally The Beatles and Elvis, 1 Billion records.
Who said pop music was dead!:eek::eek:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 976427)

Think I heard he now runs a gym or something similar in London...

Liked his songs -really bring back a certain time of life for me..:)

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 976814)

He's actually still heavily into the music industry modertol

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 976824)

Love it when you call me MoDertol, Jay. For some reason has me thinking of Gargling -Dettol?! Must go for a neurological check-up -I worry sometimes how my mind works:D (Have had a CAT scan and there is a brain in there!)

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 976737)

So they are in good company, they have sold more than Johnny Cash, 1 million more than Lady Gaga, the same amount of Village People, very punk!
10 Million less than Journey, 35 million less than Dolly Parton, The Who, Paul Maccartney (solo) Janet Jackson! Britney Spears!
It gets better, 65 million less than Backstreet Boys!! :eek:Or even Genesis, so I will not need to throw away Foxtrot just yet:cool:

135 million less than Celine Dion or Mariah Carey! Or even my beloved Pink Floyd.
Abba sold between 200 and 300million, right when Punk was at its highest:D

Finally The Beatles and Elvis, 1 Billion records.
Who said pop music was dead!:eek::eek:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 976910)

Opps I wasn't challenging your EGO! How many wasn't the issue mate!

I was clearly stating that a band playing punk in the Mid- noughties (or first 10 years of the 21st Century) were selling a lot of records!


But thanks for doing the research!!! :D
PS I note you say your beloved Pink Floyd, may I point out - a band who were inspired by LSD and Cannabis! :eek: :do-one:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977004)

Why don't you just sod off and take your love of drugs with you, your just brain addled moron

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 977218)

Its a great track, but Syd was hospitalised in 68 with reports of mental illness, coupled wi drug addiction, so he aint exactly a great argument fer yer cause.:rolleyes:Syd Barrett dies aged 60 | Culture | guardian.co.uk

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 974816)

We don't.

We expect you to be wrong.

Why don't you pop some middle of the road pap on, and have a little pogo?

Try Manhattan Transfer.

Now they really were hard core punk rockers.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977224)

No, the issue here is not that LSD is good, but that it was a major influence on Pink Floyds music - come on you can't deny that their music is Trip music! :alright:

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 976910)

Opps I wasn't challenging your EGO! How many wasn't the issue mate!

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977224)

No, the issue here is not that LSD is good, but that it was a major influence on Pink Floyds music - come on you can't deny that their music is Trip music! :alright:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 977233)

The same could be said of any psychedelic, new age, prog rock music. Have you listened to The Yes Album? Or Foxtrot by Genesis?


I have never abused any drug, legal or otherwise, yet I am a huge Pink Floyd fan as well as prog rock and find Sgt Peppers lonely hearts club band one of the finest albums of all time. Yet I do not feel the need to be stoned or high on drugs to enjoy them.

Just because a musician took drugs, is not a endorsement of them.
In fact David Gilmour did take cocaine during his divorce with then wife Ginger, he refers to the "usual rock star coke lifestyle"

And I quote from another website here:
I must say, Gilmour nails it on the head with one line, and this is a direct quote....."It's a drug that does nothing for anyone." True words, those! Actually it turns people into shells of people. It has the ability to deceive it's user, building up false confidence, "allowing" them to become more talkative and all the rest. "It left me with a prematurely aged heart", was another comment Gilmour made on the subject.

So back to the subject matter, Punk did not kill off Pop music, end of:cool:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 977321)

Ahhhh...some New Wave! being a Simple Mind myself...
Just in case anyone was forgetting about me;)
Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me) - YouTube[/URL]

Saw them by chance at a little music festival in Chateaux Arnoux in Provence in 1998 -fab concert, Jim's hair was much shorter, met them after in the village -really nice folks.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 979076)

Simple Minds aren't new wave they are more like Nu Romantics! Then became rock :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 979397)

Split all the hairs you want...New this or that..:D



Ahhhhhh! Vienna!

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 988828)

Interesting film -isn't it funny how time and distance make something which was seen as shocking and threatening now seem faintly laughable.

Glad I never donned the safety pins and chains myself - might have ended up like the two "old" punks who feature at the end:rolleyes:

They just about prove that punk is, if not dead, then not "wearing well with age"!

Whereas pop lives on..

Another favourite of mine, the dress over trousers is still fashionable and I love the earrings:D

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 990087)

I don't follow the charts these days -can't stand commercial radio stations with all the useless banter and the same songs being played over and over.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 990185)

Its a pity you can't get Vintage TV CHANNEL 369 on Sky mobertol, its great for 50s 60s 70s 80s music, its on all the time in my gaff, its like a backdrop to AccyWeb:D

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 990087)

I don't follow the charts these days -can't stand commercial radio stations with all the useless banter and the same songs being played over and over.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977224)

No, the issue here is not that LSD is good, but that it was a major influence on Pink Floyds music - come on you can't deny that their music is Trip music! :alright:

Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 990834)

Punk augmented some pop? Some pop is total crap though. Punk circa 1976 changed music forever

Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 990838)

Got to disagree. Clash, Sex Pistols, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks and Damned were brilliant.

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 977321)

Ahhhh...some New Wave! being a Simple Mind

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 990817)

I absolutely hate the link between LSD and Pink Floyd. I was often told "you have to listen to this on acid"

I would rather (back then)take LSD and bash my head against a wall that listen that rubbish.

Originally Posted by Claytoner40 (Post 990834)

Punk augmented some pop? Some pop is total crap though. Punk circa 1976 changed music forever

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 991130)

Prefer Joe Jackson to Elvis Costello - this is a great song-hadn't heard it in years...

Joe Jackson - Steppin' Out - YouTube

Not a bit influenced by punk!:D

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 991130)

Prefer Joe Jackson to Elvis Costello - this is a great song-hadn't heard it in years...

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Not a bit influenced by punk!:D

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 991309)

Being a big fan of Joe Jackson, I got into him in the early 80's, I would say he is anything but punk.
Night and Day, the album which 'Steppin Out' was off was a nod and tribute to Cole Porter.
he is just finishing a tribute album to Duke Ellington, his work comprises Classical, Jazz, Pop and Rock sometimes combining them all.
I have seen him a few times live and he is one of the best live acts I have ever seen.

To say that Punk paved the way for him, well if having a record producer hear your tape, then signing you is down to the influence of punk so be it. but where does that leave The Beatles.
His label at the time was A&M a rather large label.

To be fair, I always thought the start of DIY etc started with the Teac A3440 4 track reel to reel and the Tascam home studio that used cassettes.

Maybe we should class Marillion as punk, they don't have a record label, instead rely on their fans to buy albums up front, so they can record them.

Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 991316)

Quote from Wikipedia entry on him - " He was popular for his pop/rock and new wave music early on before moving to more eclectic, though less commercially successful, pop/jazz/classical hybrids."

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 991429)

Did you go on Wikipedia and write that yourself?:rolleyes:

I listened to Joe Jackson all the way from Accy to Strasbourg on a coach (school exchange trip) Easter 1979, that and Outlandos D'amour, almost wore the tapes out -both on A&M if i remember rightly.

It's fair enough on the part of a record company -who want to make money on their investment, to suggest the direction of an artist's first output - their own style will prevail if they are destined for success. Joe Jackson and The Police have stayed the test of time as artists even though their first songs were less "them", as you suggest in the case of JJ. The Police had a "Punk" first record -Landlord, which was not a hit -listen to it and you'll see why! They were also told by A&M to bleach their hair blond to look more Punk -they just looked a bit daft as they were much older than the kids playing punk -even though Sting pulled it off better than the other two because of his natural beauty.:D

Just to throw the cat among the pigeons -was thinking about Squeeze -another group I loved back in the good old days of the 70's. Where would you place them with relaton to Punk? Might be an idea to ask Jools;)


Have just listened to this one again with much pleasure:D