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kestrelx 30-03-2012 23:30

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Did anyone see the Noel Gallagher interview tonight with Mark Lawson?

Mark Lawson Talks to Noel Gallagher, 11.20pm, BBC4 - Entertainment - Corkman.ie

Noel claims Oasis are the biggest band ever and no one will ever touch them! What do you think about his claims? A product of his over blown ego?

Oasis bigger and better than U2? The Beatles? Everybody else who every played a guitar?

annesingleton 30-03-2012 23:48

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Yes I've just watched it, I really like Noel Gallagher, I think he's a really intelligent, creative and interesting person. I can see where he's coming from retrospectively in that there aren't many people as famous as Oasis from that time, and I do think they were talented, but they were most definitely not the biggest band ever, there are far far bigger talents than them.

Restless 30-03-2012 23:57

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Both of them Noel and Liam are pretentious aholes. Oasis' first album was quite good, then come a few good songs which turned out to b-sides from singles from the second album. Everything else is just bland, boring and soulless.

More annoyingly they seem to think they are on equal par to Lennon and the Beatles.

kestrelx 31-03-2012 00:16

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981375)
Yes I've just watched it, I really like Noel Gallagher, I think he's a really intelligent, creative and interesting person. I can see where he's coming from retrospectively in that there aren't many people as famous as Oasis from that time, and I do think they were talented, but they were most definitely not the biggest band ever, there are far far bigger talents than them.

How did you swallow what he said about drugs - that it's part of the music game and that he's glad he took them, but no longer does take them! How do you square that with your attitudes to drugs :confused::hidewall:

walkinman221 31-03-2012 06:55

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981379)
How did you swallow what he said about drugs - that it's part of the music game and that he's glad he took them, but no longer does take them! How do you square that with your attitudes to drugs :confused::hidewall:

For gods sake change the record you are obsessed, people have disagreed with your view on drugs thats what debate is about. You seem to bring drugs into every post/thread you do.

jaysay 31-03-2012 08:04

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 981387)
For gods sake change the record you are obsessed, people have disagreed with your view on drugs thats what debate is about. You seem to bring drugs into every post/thread you do.

Well when drugs have shaped your life, people like birdy tend to keep harping on about then, its like an addiction really;)

jaysay 31-03-2012 08:06

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If you've heard one Oasis record you've heard um all, gallagher was a legend in his own lunch hour:rolleyes:

kestrelx 31-03-2012 08:56

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Originally Posted by walkinman221 (Post 981387)
For gods sake change the record you are obsessed, people have disagreed with your view on drugs thats what debate is about. You seem to bring drugs into every post/thread you do.

Your an idiot! I was asking a bonafida question! Anne said she liked Gallagher! He said he has taken drugs and is glad he did! When I said that, Anne was attacking me - bit hypocritical don't you think! :rolleyes:

kestrelx 31-03-2012 08:58

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 981378)
Both of them Noel and Liam are pretentious aholes. Oasis' first album was quite good, then come a few good songs which turned out to b-sides from singles from the second album. Everything else is just bland, boring and soulless.

More annoyingly they seem to think they are on equal par to Lennon and the Beatles.

I agree with you on this - I did a search apparently U2 sold 150 Million records Oasis 50 Million. Oasis no where near as good as the Beatles or the Who or even the Stones - their songs arn't that good though they have a few good ones!

Michael1954 31-03-2012 09:47

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981415)
Your an idiot! I was asking a bonafida question! Anne said she liked Gallagher! He said he has taken drugs and is glad he did! When I said that, Anne was attacking me - bit hypocritical don't you think! :rolleyes:

Read the posts above. Anne didn't attack you. However, you do go on about drugs a lot.

Restless 31-03-2012 10:22

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I have often thought that It seemed that the majority of great music was written by drug users.


Well there is the proof against that

Beatles were high on drugs-- they made great music
Oasis were high on drugs-- most of their music sucks

:hehetable

kestrelx 31-03-2012 10:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981395)
If you've heard one Oasis record you've heard um all, gallagher was a legend in his own lunch hour:rolleyes:

A bit like your posts! ;)

susie123 31-03-2012 10:45

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 981378)
Both of them Noel and Liam are pretentious aholes.
More annoyingly they seem to think they are on equal par to Lennon and the Beatles.

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 981441)
Beatles were high on drugs-- they made great music
Oasis were high on drugs-- most of their music sucks

The Beatles were making great music before the whole drugs thing kicked in. Agree with you about Oasis and the Gallaghers though.

Restless 31-03-2012 10:59

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yeah true. But their music took a drug related turn and was still great.

:D

Oasis sing about cocaine and champagne and well... it sucks.


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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 981448)
The Beatles were making great music before the whole drugs thing kicked in. Agree with you about Oasis and the Gallaghers though.


jaysay 31-03-2012 13:55

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981444)
A bit like your posts! ;)

That's rich coming from a druggy;)

annesingleton 31-03-2012 16:37

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981379)
How did you swallow what he said about drugs - that it's part of the music game and that he's glad he took them, but no longer does take them! How do you square that with your attitudes to drugs :confused::hidewall:

Because I don't agree with drugs misuse doesn't mean that I dismiss all people who use or have used drugs out of hand.

annesingleton 31-03-2012 16:43

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981415)
Your an idiot! I was asking a bonafida question! Anne said she liked Gallagher! He said he has taken drugs and is glad he did! When I said that, Anne was attacking me - bit hypocritical don't you think! :rolleyes:

Whatever is the matter with you? I would like to know when I have ever attacked you, I have no idea who you are and if I happen to disagree with your point of view does that amount to an attack? If so could it not equally be said that you have attacked me on several occasions?

kestrelx 31-03-2012 16:50

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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 981448)
The Beatles were making great music before the whole drugs thing kicked in. Agree with you about Oasis and the Gallaghers though.

Your wrong there Suzie, the Beatles were using amphetamines every night in Hamburg before they even got a record deal! So they have always used drugs in their music! :)

Michael1954 31-03-2012 17:18

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981549)
Your wrong there Suzie, the Beatles were using amphetamines every night in Hamburg before they even got a record deal! So they have always used drugs in their music! :)

Who cares whether she is is right or wrong? Does it really matter whether the Beatles took drugs? Do I care? What point are you trying to make?

shakermaker 31-03-2012 17:31

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Many people seem to be eager to register opinion on the Gallaghers and their previous band without checking their facts first. Quite ironic really.

Noel was saying that Oasis were the biggest band in the world for a short time in 1996 when they played Knebworth, which is a fact. (They sold the most tickets and the most records.) He went on to say that Oasis were the last of that breed of British bands to achieve such acclaim, which seems likely to prove true as the music industry is now such a different beast.

walkinman221 31-03-2012 17:59

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[QUOTE=kestrelx;981415]Your an idiot!
Pot kettle kettle pot springs to mind and you seem to be a little paranoid or have a persecution complex .Infamy infamy they've all got it in for me.Try talking some sense for a change you might see a difference in peoples responses:rolleyes:

Restless 31-03-2012 18:54

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MEH. Speed has never done good for anybody!

As for influencing musicians...pfff I disagree they would have had much influence by what was known as a dietary aids back then. It was prescription based in the 60's and by 1971 It became a schedule II drug under the Controlled Substances Act in 1971.

A friend I once worked with said to me(who was in his late 50s) "everybody was doing speed in 60s and nobody thought anything much of it because it our wives got them from over the counter"

The point is they wasn't illegal drugs and therefore in that timeframe your point is invalid. IMO


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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981549)
Your wrong there Suzie, the Beatles were using amphetamines every night in Hamburg before they even got a record deal! So they have always used drugs in their music! :)


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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 981554)
Many people seem to be eager to register opinion on the Gallaghers and their previous band without checking their facts first. Quite ironic really.

Dude coming from an oasis fan--- the comment is biased :hehetable

susie123 31-03-2012 18:58

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 981570)
MEH. Speed has never done good for anybody!

As for influencing musicians...pfff I disagree they would have had much influence by what was known as a dietary aids back then. It was prescription based in the 60's and by 1971 It became a schedule II drug under the Controlled Substances Act in 1971.

A friend I once worked with said to me(who was in his late 50s) "everybody was doing speed in 60s and nobody thought anything much of it because it our wives got them from over the counter"

The point is they wasn't illegal drugs and therefore in that timeframe your point is invalid. IMO

Thanks Rob you made that point far more eloquently than I could.

shakermaker 31-03-2012 19:34

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 981570)
Dude coming from an oasis fan--- the comment is biased

Of course it is. Just as your 'Oasis made one good album' standpoint is.

However, you must be growing fond of them, as you haven't actually said which part of my post you disagree with; only putting forward the sixth form critical thinking retort of, "BIAS! BIAS! MUST COVER MY EARS AAAAA WRONG WRONG WRONG!".

Promising. :)

kestrelx 31-03-2012 20:11

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 981550)
Who cares whether she is is right or wrong? Does it really matter whether the Beatles took drugs? Do I care? What point are you trying to make?

You ask me that question - you havn't understood what was posted before this you are just reacting to my comment with out reading the previous posts.

kestrelx 31-03-2012 20:13

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981544)
Because I don't agree with drugs misuse doesn't mean that I dismiss all people who use or have used drugs out of hand.

So your saying it's alright for Noel Gallagher to have taken drugs for 10 years and then to say "I'm glad I did it but I don't do it any more!" But for us lesser folks - it's wrong to say that?

Restless 31-03-2012 21:47

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Yeah of course it was kinda meant to be a joke.

I did like the band a little, First album was pretty good. It isn't really a solid album for me. I haven't listened to them in a long time. Second album has 1/4 decent. As I said before the bsides was better. Masterplan is prob the best song they have done.

He openly rips songs off and admits it-- How has he gotten away with this I don't know?

They are two jerks--Mostly this is what people see and know. There seems to be no humility there whatsoever. Oasis won't be talked about as much as the beatles were. In fact the last album was in poundland

Its the same with guns and roses. They made good music but Axl Rose is a complete ass. He wen't on to do G&R without any other band member. I just wont entertain that. I hoped Noel might go on and do some good solo stuff... But what I heard sounded like the beatles...

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 981575)
Of course it is. Just as your 'Oasis made one good album' standpoint is.

However, you must be growing fond of them, as you haven't actually said which part of my post you disagree with; only putting forward the sixth form critical thinking retort of, "BIAS! BIAS! MUST COVER MY EARS AAAAA WRONG WRONG WRONG!".

Promising. :)


Restless 31-03-2012 21:50

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thanks....but...apart from my bad writing :)

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Originally Posted by restless
much of it because it our wives got them


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Originally Posted by susie123 (Post 981572)
Thanks Rob you made that point far more eloquently than I could.


annesingleton 01-04-2012 07:34

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981590)
So your saying it's alright for Noel Gallagher to have taken drugs for 10 years and then to say "I'm glad I did it but I don't do it any more!" But for us lesser folks - it's wrong to say that?

I don't think I've said that. Just to let you know my take on drugs misuse I will repeat what I have said on other threads. Apologies to everyone else for being repetative.
I have worked with young people who misuse substances for a number of years and I have seen first hand the devastating effects they can have on lives, not only of the user but also their families and of course the victims of the crimes drug users commit to either feed their habit or as a result of using mind altering substances. People with their lives and prospects in front of them become motivated only by where their next fix will come from and couldn't care less about anything else.
I won't go on about it any further although I could, but my point is that I cannot see any justification for legalising currently illegal substances. If they were to be legalised there would still be a black market - look at the current illegal trade in alcohol, tobacco and even DVDs, all of which are legal, but the duty on tobacco and alcohol means that people will always want cheaper options - the same would be true if drugs were legalised.
You seem to have me down as an old, ill informed and uneducated bigot Kestrelx. I have based my comments on professional knowledge and tried to be objective regarding my opinions. If your opinion is different to mine then so be it, I'm not really bothered nor am I trying to change the world. I am merely voicing my opinion based on the facts that I know from my own experience.
And as I said previously on this particular thread, I would never dismiss people purely because they have previously used or are currently using illegal (or legal) substances. I don't particularly like or dislike Oasis but I do find Noel Gallagher to be an entertaining and articulate person who is interesting to listen to. The fact that he used drugs is irrelevant. And for every Noel Gallagher there are thousands of others who have not managed their substance use so successfully.

jaysay 01-04-2012 09:28

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 981554)
Many people seem to be eager to register opinion on the Gallaghers and their previous band without checking their facts first. Quite ironic really.

Noel was saying that Oasis were the biggest band in the world for a short time in 1996 when they played Knebworth, which is a fact. (They sold the most tickets and the most records.) He went on to say that Oasis were the last of that breed of British bands to achieve such acclaim, which seems likely to prove true as the music industry is now such a different beast.

Funny that shaker, I have an extensive record collection and can't seem to find one of Oasis, suppose its a matter of whether you like that type of music, can say exactly the same about The Smiths and Stone Roses, its a matter of taste really, to me Oasis were trying to emulate the Beatles, which I think one of the Gallaghers once said, but to me they didn't do a very good job in that department

jaysay 01-04-2012 09:31

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981627)
I don't think I've said that. Just to let you know my take on drugs misuse I will repeat what I have said on other threads. Apologies to everyone else for being repetative.
I have worked with young people who misuse substances for a number of years and I have seen first hand the devastating effects they can have on lives, not only of the user but also their families and of course the victims of the crimes drug users commit to either feed their habit or as a result of using mind altering substances. People with their lives and prospects in front of them become motivated only by where their next fix will come from and couldn't care less about anything else.
I won't go on about it any further although I could, but my point is that I cannot see any justification for legalising currently illegal substances. If they were to be legalised there would still be a black market - look at the current illegal trade in alcohol, tobacco and even DVDs, all of which are legal, but the duty on tobacco and alcohol means that people will always want cheaper options - the same would be true if drugs were legalised.
You seem to have me down as an old, ill informed and uneducated bigot Kestrelx. I have based my comments on professional knowledge and tried to be objective regarding my opinions. If your opinion is different to mine then so be it, I'm not really bothered nor am I trying to change the world. I am merely voicing my opinion based on the facts that I know from my own experience.
And as I said previously on this particular thread, I would never dismiss people purely because they have previously used or are currently using illegal (or legal) substances. I don't particularly like or dislike Oasis but I do find Noel Gallagher to be an entertaining and articulate person who is interesting to listen to. The fact that he used drugs is irrelevant. And for every Noel Gallagher there are thousands of others who have not managed their substance use so successfully.

Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't:rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 01-04-2012 11:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981653)
Your right about that susie,

What you been sniffing ??? :D I've told you before, lay off the wine gums !

susie123 01-04-2012 11:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981653)
Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 981682)
What you been sniffing ??? :D I've told you before, lay off the wine gums !

Thought it might be an April Fool, to see if I'd notice - well I did but thought I'd leave it to one of my trusty friends to reply so eloquently! :rolleyes:

shakermaker 01-04-2012 12:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981650)
Funny that shaker, I have an extensive record collection and can't seem to find one of Oasis, suppose its a matter of whether you like that type of music, can say exactly the same about The Smiths and Stone Roses, its a matter of taste really, to me Oasis were trying to emulate the Beatles, which I think one of the Gallaghers once said, but to me they didn't do a very good job in that department

Jaysay, I didn't say that everybody liked Oasis and bought one of their records. I merely stated the fact that Oasis were the biggest band of their generation when they reached their peak popularity circa 1996. I only stated this to clear up what was said by the interviewee in the BBC4 programme, as several posters here wildly (perhaps intentionally) misinterpreted it.

People will hear what they want to hear and rear what they want to read, I suppose. This is shown most evidently in the posters on this thread using the Noel Gallagher interview on BBC4 to push forward their agenda on the issue of drugs, manipulating the words of the interviewee. Very strange behaviour.

I only posted to try and point posters towards what was actually said in the interview but it seems there is little hope of success.

Play nice, children.

annesingleton 01-04-2012 16:37

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981653)
Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't:rolleyes:

Sorry Jaysay I think you're getting me mixed up with Susie, I'm Anne, not a problem for me but I don't know if Susie supports my beliefs!

annesingleton 01-04-2012 16:42

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 981690)
Jaysay, I didn't say that everybody liked Oasis and bought one of their records. I merely stated the fact that Oasis were the biggest band of their generation when they reached their peak popularity circa 1996. I only stated this to clear up what was said by the interviewee in the BBC4 programme, as several posters here wildly (perhaps intentionally) misinterpreted it.

People will hear what they want to hear and rear what they want to read, I suppose. This is shown most evidently in the posters on this thread using the Noel Gallagher interview on BBC4 to push forward their agenda on the issue of drugs, manipulating the words of the interviewee. Very strange behaviour.

I only posted to try and point posters towards what was actually said in the interview but it seems there is little hope of success.

Play nice, children.

Oasis were extremely popular in 1996 and at that time were probably more popular than the Beatles. That doesn't make them better musicians than the Beatles, just that there was nothing better at the time.

susie123 01-04-2012 17:01

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981761)
Sorry Jaysay I think you're getting me mixed up with Susie, I'm Anne, not a problem for me but I don't know if Susie supports my beliefs!

I had noticed, Anne, but couldn't think of a suitable comeback - I let DaveinGermany do it for me!

As with many things on Accyweb and life generally, I'm with you on some things but not others. On this thread, no I do not like Oasis, never did, and find the Gallaghers unbearable. Best ignored.

jaysay 01-04-2012 17:51

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981761)
Sorry Jaysay I think you're getting me mixed up with Susie, I'm Anne, not a problem for me but I don't know if Susie supports my beliefs!

That's my trouble I always get beautiful young ladies mixed up, I'll have to try harder:D

But the point I was making is if you want to see a list of people who have ruined their lives, google THE 27 makes interesting reading

annesingleton 01-04-2012 18:06

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981785)
That's my trouble I always get beautiful young ladies mixed up, I'll have to try harder:D

But the point I was making is if you want to see a list of people who have ruined their lives, google THE 27 makes interesting reading

Thank you Jaysay I'm looking in the mirror and preening at your comment, and I'm sure Susie is doing the same as we speak! And from my point of view thank you so much for the 'young' comment!!

susie123 01-04-2012 18:32

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981792)
Thank you Jaysay I'm looking in the mirror and preening at your comment, and I'm sure Susie is doing the same as we speak! And from my point of view thank you so much for the 'young' comment!!

Oh yes Anne at least our opinions on this coincide!

And that is an interesting topic Jaysay, knew about some of them but didnt realise there were so many.

annesingleton 01-04-2012 18:46

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981792)
Thank you Jaysay I'm looking in the mirror and preening at your comment, and I'm sure Susie is doing the same as we speak! And from my point of view thank you so much for the 'young' comment!!

Just had a look, how interesting is that!

annesingleton 02-04-2012 08:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981653)
Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't:rolleyes:

Sorry, I used the wrong quote above, should have been this one!

jaysay 02-04-2012 08:58

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981808)
Just had a look, how interesting is that!

I found it quite unbelievable when I first looked at it about 3 years ago, but its food for thought

kestrelx 02-04-2012 09:16

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 981690)
Jaysay, I didn't say that everybody liked Oasis and bought one of their records. I merely stated the fact that Oasis were the biggest band of their generation when they reached their peak popularity circa 1996. I only stated this to clear up what was said by the interviewee in the BBC4 programme, as several posters here wildly (perhaps intentionally) misinterpreted it.

People will hear what they want to hear and rear what they want to read, I suppose. This is shown most evidently in the posters on this thread using the Noel Gallagher interview on BBC4 to push forward their agenda on the issue of drugs, manipulating the words of the interviewee. Very strange behaviour.

I only posted to try and point posters towards what was actually said in the interview but it seems there is little hope of success.

Play nice, children.


Noel has said that he was "Bigger than God!" again copying what Lennon said - when pulled up about it, he said he meant "taller!" So how can he be taller than god? :hothothot

He also recently said "I'm the reason you got into music!"

His Ego seems bigger than God and everything else on this planet!

OK hats off - the first 2 Oasis LP's I think are excellent but I don't think they managed to creatively live up to the promise! Yes the Knebworth gig they did, I think broke attendance records. But all in all they are more like Status Quo than the Beatles - the Beatles had so much character and each member had depth to them. Oasis are not in the same league - inspite of Noel's ego! :D

shakermaker 02-04-2012 16:55

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 981765)
Oasis were extremely popular in 1996 and at that time were probably more popular than the Beatles. That doesn't make them better musicians than the Beatles, just that there was nothing better at the time.

...no one has said they were better than The Beatles.

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 981903)
Noel has said that he was "Bigger than God!" again copying what Lennon said - when pulled up about it, he said he meant "taller!" So how can he be taller than god? :hothothot

He also recently said "I'm the reason you got into music!"

His Ego seems bigger than God and everything else on this planet!

OK hats off - the first 2 Oasis LP's I think are excellent but I don't think they managed to creatively live up to the promise! Yes the Knebworth gig they did, I think broke attendance records. But all in all they are more like Status Quo than the Beatles - the Beatles had so much character and each member had depth to them. Oasis are not in the same league - inspite of Noel's ego! :D

None of this detracts from the fact that Noel Gallagher was correct when he said Oasis were the biggest band in the world at their peak - at that time.

Really is like banging one's head against a Nori brick on this thread.

kestrelx 02-04-2012 18:37

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 981974)
...no one has said they were better than The Beatles.


None of this detracts from the fact that Noel Gallagher was correct when he said Oasis were the biggest band in the world at their peak - at that time.

Really is like banging one's head against a Nori brick on this thread.

I didn't hear him stress the word "Peak!" He said ""U2" "Kasabian" will never touch us!" :jimbo:

jaysay 02-04-2012 18:47

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 982006)
I didn't hear him stress the word "Peak!" He said ""U2" "Kasabian" will never touch us!" :jimbo:

To me its no contest between Oasis and U2, U2 are still a better band than Noel's mob could ever have become, Noel fancied himself as a modern day John Lennon, doubt if he ever been able to lace Lennon's shoes, but that's just my opinion

shakermaker 02-04-2012 20:10

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Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

He said that Oasis were the last of the 'big British bands' to really enter society and take over a generation. Beatles, Stones, Who, Queen, Feelgood, Clash, Pistols, Jam, Bowie, Roses, Smiths etc... it all ended with Oasis.
This is mainly because the music industry is so different. Oasis were the last band for the analogue age of music fans who were into 'proper British bands with instruments' that bought albums and went to gigs. Everything is in a 99p iTunes single now.
This doesn't go to say that Oasis are/were better than any of the other great British bands (as that is all down to taste), it only says that they were the last to make such an effect.
This is exemplified in the bands he mentioned that are trying to make success in the new millennium, such as Arctic Monkeys, Kasabian and U2, who, if you did your research, you'd see he has been very complimentary of.

18 years since their first album, 16 years since their 'peak', 3 years since their break up, and their popularity is being debated. I think that proves the point in itself. I'll leave it there.

Restless 02-04-2012 23:26

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Even now people debate over whether or not Mark Eitzel is the one of the greatest living songwriter in America. This statement was first made in Melody Maker I think.

But then again loads of people have never heard of American Music Club or Mark Eitzel :(

offtopic I know. But it has also been 18 years since AMC's last album (before reunion) came out.

jaysay 03-04-2012 08:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 982033)
Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

He said that Oasis were the last of the 'big British bands' to really enter society and take over a generation. Beatles, Stones, Who, Queen, Feelgood, Clash, Pistols, Jam, Bowie, Roses, Smiths etc... it all ended with Oasis.
This is mainly because the music industry is so different. Oasis were the last band for the analogue age of music fans who were into 'proper British bands with instruments' that bought albums and went to gigs. Everything is in a 99p iTunes single now.
This doesn't go to say that Oasis are/were better than any of the other great British bands (as that is all down to taste), it only says that they were the last to make such an effect.
This is exemplified in the bands he mentioned that are trying to make success in the new millennium, such as Arctic Monkeys, Kasabian and U2, who, if you did your research, you'd see he has been very complimentary of.

18 years since their first album, 16 years since their 'peak', 3 years since their break up, and their popularity is being debated. I think that proves the point in itself. I'll leave it there.

Think my point is Shaker that Groups such as the Beatles are stil revered 50 years down the line, The Stones are Still going as are Quo, don't think the Gallagher brothers will still be thought of in 50 years time

shakermaker 03-04-2012 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 982120)
Think my point is Shaker that Groups such as the Beatles are stil revered 50 years down the line, The Stones are Still going as are Quo, don't think the Gallagher brothers will still be thought of in 50 years time

Well that's a different topic altogether, but when endulged it is a fair point. I disagree, of course.

Oasis means so much to so many people. It's a little bit like a religion - you either get it or you don't. If you don't feel ten feet tall when you hear the guitar solo to Supersonic or Live Forever then you won't understand the sheer joy that Oasis brings to their fans.

Take a look at the below video for an example. That was shot a few months before Oasis broke up, 14 years after the song being played was released. The fans there aren't all in their late 20s/30s, there was a new generation of fans that came through around 2005. Brothers had passed down records, kids hearing Lyla and The Importance of Being Idle looking back to see what the early fuss was about, and they all subsequently subscribed to the noise & confusion.

The Best Oasis Crowd? - Morning Glory Argentina 2009 - YouTube

In my opinion, the passing down of Oasis music will always happen as the music is timeless - written about universal themes such as peace, love, good times and bad. But then, I'm biased. :)

jaysay 03-04-2012 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 982155)
Well that's a different topic altogether, but when endulged it is a fair point. I disagree, of course.

Oasis means so much to so many people. It's a little bit like a religion - you either get it or you don't. If you don't feel ten feet tall when you hear the guitar solo to Supersonic or Live Forever then you won't understand the sheer joy that Oasis brings to their fans.

Take a look at the below video for an example. That was shot a few months before Oasis broke up, 14 years after the song being played was released. The fans there aren't all in their late 20s/30s, there was a new generation of fans that came through around 2005. Brothers had passed down records, kids hearing Lyla and The Importance of Being Idle looking back to see what the early fuss was about, and they all subsequently subscribed to the noise & confusion.

The Best Oasis Crowd? - Morning Glory Argentina 2009 - YouTube

In my opinion, the passing down of Oasis music will always happen as the music is timeless - written about universal themes such as peace, love, good times and bad. But then, I'm biased. :)

Can't really comment really on most of Oasis stuff Shaker, as I just didn't like them, as you say its a choice thing. A bit like Elvis Presley, only ever bought 1 of his records that was Jail House Rock, just wasn't my cup of tea

kestrelx 03-04-2012 18:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 982033)
Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

He said that Oasis were the last of the 'big British bands' to really enter society and take over a generation. Beatles, Stones, Who, Queen, Feelgood, Clash, Pistols, Jam, Bowie, Roses, Smiths etc... it all ended with Oasis.
This is mainly because the music industry is so different. Oasis were the last band for the analogue age of music fans who were into 'proper British bands with instruments' that bought albums and went to gigs. Everything is in a 99p iTunes single now.
This doesn't go to say that Oasis are/were better than any of the other great British bands (as that is all down to taste), it only says that they were the last to make such an effect.
This is exemplified in the bands he mentioned that are trying to make success in the new millennium, such as Arctic Monkeys, Kasabian and U2, who, if you did your research, you'd see he has been very complimentary of.

18 years since their first album, 16 years since their 'peak', 3 years since their break up, and their popularity is being debated. I think that proves the point in itself. I'll leave it there.

I see that the timing of the band coincided with the peak of the dance scene and their music sort of crossed over into that Manchester Rave scene when people wanted to go out to big gigs and get off their heads - Oasis tapped into that and provided a live experience.

So I see your point that the music business has changed so much now it will by nigh on impossible for a new band to do that again, as it's all changed so much. Like you say kids now want it all for free or 99p - in Oasis days it was the last years of vinyl and the first days of MP3 files and downloads. Nearly all the UK bands now are in the shadow of Oasis, they were inspired by Oasis - like 2nd hand clothes - were as Oasis were inspired by the greats; The Jam, Pistols, Slade, The Beatles and you can hear all those elements in Oasis attitude and music (it's well know Liam got his voice from Johnny Rotten)!

kestrelx 03-04-2012 18:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 982155)
Well that's a different topic altogether, but when endulged it is a fair point. I disagree, of course.




In my opinion, the passing down of Oasis music will always happen as the music is timeless - written about universal themes such as peace, love, good times and bad. But then, I'm biased. :)

Liam said this song title was about either 1) sniffing cocaine in the morning "chained to the mirror with a razor blade!". 2) or something inappropriate for younger viewers who may read this!

They did encapsulate the 90's vibe without doubt!


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