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KIPAX 22-01-2006 10:49

Cambridge Program
 
I thought that was the best for many a season. Everything looks so much better glossy. Few things to iron out yet but deffo on the up for a change :)

John_Timmins 22-01-2006 10:51

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Yeah was a vast improvment but just needs some longer staples for next time as mine fell to pieces

Tin Monkey 22-01-2006 10:51

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
I thought that was the best for many a season. Everything looks so much better glossy. Few things to iron out yet but deffo on the up for a change :)

Spot on Kipax. It looked like a proper programme for the first time in years. Much improved! :)

maccawozzagod 22-01-2006 11:21

Re: Cambridge Program
 
did you get royalties for the pic on the front and this is why you are touting it? :p

KIPAX 22-01-2006 11:29

Re: Cambridge Program
 
There always all my pics.. front and middle and just so everyone knows... I get paid exactly NOTHING from club or Observer for my pics.. so nagh nagh

Macca ... tell me if your at a loose end on the 15th feb :)

ossyclogger 22-01-2006 11:56

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Pity they didn't print enough, innit ?

Doug 22-01-2006 11:58

Re: Cambridge Program
 
I agree the Programme was excellent this week. everything about it from the paper, printing, content and cutting and trimming was spot on and well worth the money. I understand that it was a special with limited print run of around 350. So collectors beware we can expect this edition to be a rarity within a short time. One is already available on eBay if anyone missed out and would like one.

harwood red 22-01-2006 18:12

Re: Cambridge Program
 
What a shame mine also fell to bits too!!! :(

maccawozzagod 22-01-2006 18:15

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Kipax, I think that I may be in Cambridge that day, got a Sales course to go on,. I could have gone to watch Cambridge but they have no game that night

Doug 22-01-2006 20:17

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harwood red
What a shame mine also fell to bits too!!! :(


That’s 348 left and mine’s in perfect condition………… :)

Diesel 22-01-2006 20:26

Re: Cambridge Program
 
On your way to a fortune, eh Doug?

Doug 22-01-2006 20:43

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
On your way to a fortune, eh Doug?

A fortune no, a little profit in a few years time maybe. But I won’t be selling………Stanley has had a long troubled history with lots of hopes and shattered dreams.

People must remember that this is an unfinished story and history is still being written and will continue to be. This year many people will cry uncontrollably when a long held dream is realised, it will happen you believe it and I’ll be one of them. That as no value in monetary terms because it’s beyond what anyone can afford, its pure emotion…..

The front page of this weeks Observer carried a story of a programme that when written was worth no more than its cover price, it sold for £312.29. The programme as you will no doubt know was the last away game to Crewe in March 1962. Why? And why aren’t more of you looking to secure your piece of what is your own history?

Henry Morton 22-01-2006 21:24

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Well, of course I'm pleased for for those forum members who bought Saturday's programme.

However, I'm very sympathetic with those who were unable to obtain one as a result of this significant shortfall - particularly our guests from Cambridge who seem to have been treated in a rather cavalier fashion; I was told by several of them after the match that not one of them had been able to acquire said programme. They intend to contact the Club Office first thing on Monday.

Football is supposed to be a classless game where the dustman might rub shoulders with the duke. It emphatically is not (at least at Conference level) about creating "haves" and "have nots".

Ossyclogger makes the point succinctly that not enough were printed, but if it was a deliberate decision by ASFC then I'm deeply disappointed.

shakermaker 22-01-2006 21:30

Re: Cambridge Program
 
well said, HM....but for the ones who speak 'Accy English' amongst us....

NOT NUFF PROGRAMMES. WANT MORE. SHINY. :D

KIPAX 22-01-2006 21:36

Re: Cambridge Program
 
macca ya silly ******... if yer in cambridge on the 15th then get yerself to the cambridge utd ground to watch Craney and Roberts playing for the England XI v Italy.. thats where I will be.. thought ya might wanna ride as no one else interested.. how spooky yer already gonna be there :)

rob 22-01-2006 21:46

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Morton
Ossyclogger makes the point succinctly that not enough were printed, but if it was a deliberate decision by ASFC then I'm deeply disappointed.

why on earth would we make a deliberate decision not to print enough programmes? the more programmes we sell the better! we had the same amount printed as we normally do for a gate of that size, however we sold more than expected. hopefully the upturn in sales will continue and on the strength of that we'll make sure we have more printed for the forthcoming games...

shakermaker 22-01-2006 21:50

Re: Cambridge Program
 
bit silly that isn't it.
if the quality is better it's obvious more people are going to buy it....would've thought it common sense to produce more?

AccyStanFan 22-01-2006 21:57

Re: Cambridge Program
 
how would people know the quality is better before theyve bought it???

Doug 22-01-2006 21:57

Re: Cambridge Program
 
I got the impression from the comments on eBay that it was intended as a limited run. Having said that there is no indication within the programme that suggests a limited numbered run or any other form of exclusivity.

If it was intended to do this to raise value on eBay then it’s a grave error of judgement as these things only meet there real value after changing hands from the original vender. The eBay sales are there to raise money for the club, by printing 350 programmes instead of 1500 the club as lost a serious amount of income. The programme auction may have been a misjudgement, but if the club wants to make something back on it I would suggest they guarantee the exclusivity of it and have it signed by the managers and players……….

baldy 22-01-2006 22:01

Re: Cambridge Program
 
I was selling them like "hot cakes" and many people made comments on how good the new programme looked. So hopefully the people that dont usually buy programmes, start to buy them.

£2...
A bargain, if you dont like programmes go and buy a pint in the Sports Bar :D

shakermaker 22-01-2006 22:03

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyStanFan
how would people know the quality is better before theyve bought it???

well people see programmes knocking about as they are around the ground dont they? i know i do.
anyway; i would just like to add to my post that i understand that maybe the funds weren't available to produce more copies of the same high quality?

Doug 22-01-2006 22:03

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob
why on earth would we make a deliberate decision not to print enough programmes? the more programmes we sell the better! we had the same amount printed as we normally do for a gate of that size, however we sold more than expected. hopefully the upturn in sales will continue and on the strength of that we'll make sure we have more printed for the forthcoming games...

If my comment and assumptions are wrong Rob, then please except my apologies. What I think is of greater importance now is the quality going to be maintained?

KIPAX 22-01-2006 22:06

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob
we had the same amount printed as we normally do for a gate of that size

What part of that sentence are you people having trouble with?

Henry Morton 22-01-2006 22:07

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob
why on earth would we make a deliberate decision not to print enough programmes? the more programmes we sell the better! we had the same amount printed as we normally do for a gate of that size, however we sold more than expected. hopefully the upturn in sales will continue and on the strength of that we'll make sure we have more printed for the forthcoming games...

Rob,

You are quoting my particular post.

Please read the earlier posts on this thread.

There is a strong suggestion that this was a limited edition of 350. There is talk of trading profitably on eBay. "Collectors' items" changing hands at many times their original price. And so on.

I haven't made it up, so please don't shoot the messenger.

If it is indeed not a "limited edition" then perhaps you will give positive consideration to the Cambridge fans' request (and, perhaps, that of many Stanley supporters) and possibly arrange for an additional printing.

I can't remember an occasion when I was asked by so many supporters whether I knew if there were any programmes remaining.

Finally , in response to your question "Why on earth would we make a deliberate decision not to print enough programmes?" . . . there's a small but important difference between printing enough programmes and actually distributing them on match day.

Doug 22-01-2006 22:10

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baldy
I was selling them like "hot cakes" and many people made comments on how good the new programme looked. So hopefully the people that dont usually buy programmes, start to buy them.

£2...
A bargain, if you dont like programmes go and buy a pint in the Sports Bar :D

I find it hard to understand why people make the effort to stump up twelve quid to see the match and them skimp on the 2 quid for a programme? I have always looked on them as a part of the day and even paid a pound for the rather poor photocopy of last weeks Tuesday game. Why, because I see it as a way of demonstrating my commitment to ensuring the clubs coffers don’t ever go the way of 62. It’s cheep and won’t harm your health like the extra fags you buy before going to the ground or the very tombstone like beef burger that you buy once your in?

Doug 22-01-2006 22:16

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Would poster’s please take account that it maybe me that’s got it wrong and may have misled you ”Innocently” into believing that it was a intended limited print run. I may have got this mixed up, However, please take a look at eBay and form your own opinions on the matter.

rob 22-01-2006 22:23

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Morton
I haven't made it up, so please don't shoot the messenger.

sorry henry, wasn't a dig, the demand was genuinely a lot higher than usual. i am sure that we'll look into getting a few more run off for those that didn't get them :-)

Henry Morton 22-01-2006 22:26

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob
sorry henry, wasn't a dig, the demand was genuinely a lot higher than usual. i am sure that we'll look into getting a few more run off for those that didn't get them :-)

Thanks, Rob

I'm sure that's exactly what the true Stanley (and Cambridge) supporters want to hear.
It will also be the best thing for the Club. And I always back the Club.

ossyclogger 22-01-2006 22:46

Re: Cambridge Program
 
It's just a bit funny that when we had an almost capacity crowd against Halifax there was no shortage of programs.

shakermaker 22-01-2006 22:49

Re: Cambridge Program
 
well no it isnt really. the quality of those particular programmes werent great and unless you're into buying programmes for every game i doubt many people would have bothered with it.

Doug 22-01-2006 22:59

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry Morton
Thanks, Rob

I'm sure that's exactly what the true Stanley (and Cambridge) supporters want to hear.
It will also be the best thing for the Club. And I always back the Club.

Then as a true Stanley Supporter I would suggest that the offer of the New Style Accrington Stanley Match Day Programme is withdrawn form the eBay auction first thing in the morning, that way we can both back the club and “accringtonstanleyofficialauctions” can save face.

Kisser 23-01-2006 06:46

Re: Cambridge Program
 
i sold out of progs at half 2 on saturday, like baldy said they were going like hot cakes. but please please peeps - when i run out, please dont blame me!!

ossyclogger 23-01-2006 10:57

Re: Cambridge Program
 
From E-bay.
One of only 350 programmes produced for the Accrington Stanley matchday vs Cambridge Utd on Saturday 21st January 2006. The game was a complete programme sell-out and the programmes will not be re-printed so this is a great opportunity to bid if you did not manage to get hold of one, and put some extra money donated back into the club. 100% of the money raised will be donated back into the football club.

Fortunately, no bidders yet.

KarenFaz 23-01-2006 12:35

Re: Cambridge Program
 
With regard to an earlier post that Cambridge Utd did not recieve hardly any programmes, there was a programme seller on the away end that did not sell out until 2:50 on the matchday and also they took 35 programmes back to Cambridge with them in order that no one missed out. Just letting you know :)

KarenFaz 23-01-2006 12:41

Re: Cambridge Program
 
As for the Ebay auction, it is down to the public whether they bid or not they may not be Accrington fans who want that particular programme, as for whose programme it was, it was my own copy that I bought, there is no mention of 'limited edition' anywhere there. It just says one of 350, that means there is 349 more out there.......... !!

Unfortunately someone has bid so I cannot take it off....... you have to remember that all funds are donated back into Accrington Stanley FC......

Sorry for the confusion

Doug 23-01-2006 12:42

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Thanks for the confirmation of that fact Karen, I’m sure that people will feel better knowing that the visiting supporters where catered for.

As a point of interest the Match Day Programme on eBay is off the block with a matching £2.00 bid from an individual who appears to be a collector of Cambridge Memorabilia. One hopes that the matter becomes self resolving.

KarenFaz 23-01-2006 12:47

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Just to let everyone know beforehand, I will be putting more programmes on the auction site tonight that we still have copies of, they are NOT I hasten to add 'Limited Edition' they are programmes from earlier in the season...... You have to remember that this auction is not just for Accrington Stanley fans, other people can view the auctions too...............

Karen

Doug 23-01-2006 12:53

Re: Cambridge Program
 
I posted earlier that regrettably it was my post that had inferred a Limited Print Run and that it may have resulted in some individuals to take it as been the case. A matter I posted to point out and apologised for prior to the matter being exacerbated.

However, people where asked to look for themselves and make their own judgements.

My mention of withdrawal the programme was in respect of the conditions stated within the information on eBay that no further copies would be printed and the compromising statement that more copies would be produced. Again, if my involvement misled others in to believing this was a limited edition I respectfully apologise, but that shouldn't be taken as an excuse for not reading post properly in the first place.

ossyclogger 23-01-2006 13:01

Re: Cambridge Program [sic]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KIPAX
What part of that sentence are you people having trouble with?

How did they know the size of the gate when they ordered the programmes ?

KarenFaz 23-01-2006 13:05

Re: Cambridge Program
 
No worries Doug at all, tonight the programmes will be going on as one auction with bulk amount 6 programmes in one auction. They are:

Woking
Aldershot
Forest Green
Kidderminster
Halifax
Altrincham
Ramsbottom Utd Second Round Lancashire Trophy
Carshalton Athletic FA Trophy Second Round Replay
Carshalton Athletic AWAY programme FA Trophy Second Round
Southport

KarenFaz 23-01-2006 13:07

Re: Cambridge Program
 
P.S

Glad you liked it............... :) :)

Doug 23-01-2006 13:16

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Welcome.................:)

ChrisVessey 23-01-2006 18:25

Cambridge United Programme
 
What was the point in only printing 350 for this game?

Surely you're denying an opportunity to make money through added programme sales. As a CUFC fan, i buy a programme from every single match i attend, and sadly im now missing one from our game with yourselves, and looks like i wont be able to get hold of one.

A bit daft really, is there any valid reason why this happened?

Chris.

KarenFaz 23-01-2006 18:30

Re: Cambridge United Programme
 
Chris they are available at your club shop..............

As for printing 350, it is extremely hard to judge, we had the same amount printed for our Halifax game and we still had some left over and there was over 1000 more fans on that game than there were on Saturday, so it's hard to judge who's going to buy what.....

Also, please refer to the other Programme link further down...........

Henry Morton 23-01-2006 21:08

Re: Cambridge Program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenFaz
With regard to an earlier post that Cambridge Utd did not recieve hardly any programmes, there was a programme seller on the away end that did not sell out until 2:50 on the matchday and also they took 35 programmes back to Cambridge with them in order that no one missed out. Just letting you know :)

Many thanks for that information, Karen.

It would appear that at least one group of the CUFC visiting supporters did not know what was happening overall.

I totally accept what you say as a representative of ASFC, and I'm sorry if my earlier post elevated the visitors' complaint to a cause celebre .

maccawozzagod 24-01-2006 18:24

Re: Cambridge United Programme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenFaz
As for printing 350, it is extremely hard to judge, we had the same amount printed for our Halifax game and we still had some left over and there was over 1000 more fans on that game than there were on Saturday, so it's hard to judge who's going to buy what.....

Also, please refer to the other Programme link further down...........

taken from the fishy site

Accrington Stanley will produce over 30,000 of our new and improved, match day programmes for the 2005/06 season. These will be distributed to players, match officials and sponsors, and sold to home and visiting supporters of clubs from up and down the country. We also run a highly successful subscription service, sending out our home programmes all over the world!

that to me equates to 1000 programmes per match based on an estimation of 30 home matches including a few cup games that we may or may not participate in (not withstanding the Inter-Toto Lancashire cup for reasons of low attendance).

So why for two games that would be high on the estimated gate list would we print 350. Surely then the print run would be lower for games against say Forest Green or Tamworth? 350 x 30 is only 10 500 which is way way short of the advertised 30 000+.

So what is it then? Are we being misled?

rob 25-01-2006 05:40

Re: Cambridge United Programme
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
So what is it then? Are we being misled?

i don't think we are in the business of misleading people, though perhaps the 30,000 plus figure is a little high as an estimate. programme sales are well down at the moment, hopefully the improved quality will help to boost sales...

KIPAX 25-01-2006 08:01

Re: Cambridge United Programme
 
Now I remember why I stopped posting new threads......... thanks for the reminder people.


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