Mangan to start?
 

With Boco unavailable for the Swindon game, does anyone else think that Andy Mangan deserves to start after his brilliant match winning goal?
Or should he be resigned to being another Fairclough-type (Liverpool) supersub, who was famous for doing the trick for them?

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i think sub , because with his blistering pace he can out do defenders becuase they get tired like we saw on saturday. And his finish was great so he could easy do it again by starting , who knows , well have to see on the day!

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I think he should start. the lad needs to be given a chance. Its no good just giving him 5 or ten minutes a game and expect to see miracles. Give him a run of games i think and them judge him on that. when hes on he always has chances, he will be high on confidence after scoring on saturday too. coleman should unleash the whippet !!!

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And cage Cav and Craney. Saturday's free kick is the only thing Craney's done up to now this season and Cav has looked a couple of yards short of the pace and made more than his share of mistakes. Phil Edwards at right back and let Jay Harris have a try in midfield.

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yerself i agree with you totally. Craneys goal on saturday will mask his performances in some peoples eyes. for me he has been p1ss poor all season. again on saturday he lost the ball constantly, he gets dispossed every time the ball is at his feet. i think hes being carried by the team, and is living off last season. Players should be picked on form and not memories, and as for cav and edwards the two are not even in the same league its edwards is streets ahead in every department

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[quote]Saturday's free kick is the only thing Craney's done up to now this season

Hang on!
How many games have you seen this season? Does his defence-splitting ball for Roberts to score at Bury, his domination of the midfield against Forest, his super-fit chasing down of all loose balls for 90 minutes of every game, not forgetting the afore-mentioned goal, not count for anything?
I agrre with all your other comments, though:D

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is proccy who chases down all the loose balls, not craney. craneys a passenger.

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The one pass he's made that's found its target. He's all too often been dispossessed and muscled off the ball this season. His distribution has been awful.

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Then you definitely have'nt seen many games, or were busy chatting up your neighbours!

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ive missed 3 games redraine, and ill tell you now craney has been poor at best. are you saving he doesnt constantly get dispossed in midfield, he must think he has five minutes to play a pass, he is constantly knocked off the ball or caught napping on it.

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No, I'm disputing the statement that "his goal is the only thing he's done all season". I'm not saying he isn't finding it much more difficult this season, but I AM objecting to the over-the-top criticism.
This thread is supposed to be about Andy Mangan, by the way!

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ha sorry yeah we've gone way off the point

mangan to start!!!!!!!!

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Mangan to stop on the bench, he's not the finished article yet, and if he started, he'd be absolutely shattered by half time. He runs about too much and hasn't yet learned when a ball is a lost cause.

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How far is Ashley Foyle away from getting a run or warming the bench?

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Nonsense!!! Mangan is a super-sub who is brought on to run at defenders when they are tired. Brown should start as he is the best finisher at the club. Unfortunately Coley doesn't seem to like him at the moment :(

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when ever brown has played for us he looks almost un intrested in my opinion, i have never seen him have a good game :(

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Agreed - easily shaken off the ball and with a poor shot on him - apart from his goal at Hereford.
But back to the thread:-
I understand why many think Mangan should stay on the bench, but surely we must guard against him becoming disillusioned - I'm sure there are plenty of other clubs who would spirit him away given half a chance. Does he tire in the reserves over 90 minutes, Diesel?

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With Mullin on 5 goals & Roberts on 7, I think the front two picks itself

I agree Mangy makes an impact for the final few minutes, but I think his finishing needs to improve to merit a start.

I'm happy with Doherty on the wing - not as strong or skillful as Bocco, but seems to be more direct and less elaborate than Roberts in that position

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thats a very good point redraine, people are under the assumption that mangan can only last ten minutes on the pitch. but he is playing 90 mins for the reserves and his goals speak for themselves. people only think he can last ten minutes because they only see him play ten minutes. coleman should give him a run of 3 or 4 games and then we can decide if he can last

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If you give him a run of 3 or 4 games, who do you drop ? Last Saturday against Wycombe Roberts was back on the wing instead of up front with Mully. I think Roberts should return to up front and Doherty come back on to the wing.

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If you look at the goals gary has scored though, i think mangan would of scored them too. they have all been relatively simple goals, and a few just luck

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Ole Gunner Mangan :D

Keep him as sub, bring him on with 20/30 minutes to go, in my very humble opinion :)

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No goal is a simple goal. Also just look at the misses Mangy has had this season. Given the same opportunity Gary would have burried them.

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Give the lad a start. If Ian Craney andGary Roberts continue with the fancy footwork, and losing the ball too many times I would drop them both. Seems harsh I know when you consider what Gary has done, but they are both frustrating the hell outta me with trying the fancy flicks. Keep it simple lads please!!. Give Brown a chance and Ashley Foyle in the defence. I also think Phil Edwards is a far superior defender than Cav. Has anyone seen Rikki Bains play in the reserves.. How is he coming along. Are we going to have a challenge for the centre of defence? Just out of interest, according to the League paper, Cav has 5 yellows against his name, does this mean he misses this saturdays game against Swindon?

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Reserve game tomorrow - lets see how he does. I presume Welchy won't have to play in this one!

A post on the Rivals Message Board from a Coventry lad rates him highly, & says he can play centre midfield as well.

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why are we so bothered about changing it at the moment??? we are playing well, and picking up points the other lads will get chances with injuries and suspensions its just up to them to play well when they are in the team

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We have to change it - Boco is unavailable. Seems to me if ever Mangan is ever going to get a start it should be on Saturday. No need to drop anyone - Gary can play a bit further back than recently - see how it goes!

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yeah i know about the boco situation but why are we bothered about bringing ash foyle and Nda into the team when they arent needed at the moment just seems like change for the sake of it like MR Benitez!

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Totally agree - apart from Edwards:D

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I think Coley will start Sean on left and Gary and Mullers up front

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i fully agree with the last coment david brown is getting the short straw at the moment and is a fine ball player Davey

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Still curious to know how Ashley Foyle is going.Anyone seen him lately.

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Nope, and i totally agree that Brown isnt getting his chance in the squad, but as we are winning at the moment, if its not broke, dont fix it

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I reckon Phil will be be brought in at right back on Saturday, Cav is now on 5 yellows after that diobolical booking against Wycombe so I think he will miss the next game

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I think you will find that Cav was booked againsst Wrexham, Boston, Wycombe and twice against Lincoln, but he served a one match ban for the two against Lincoln, so he should only be on three for the totting up. I may be wrong.

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Called in for his tea the other day.



He's doing OK - played in all the reserve games, & settling in at the club. Just waiting for his chance.

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From the reserves line up today, I doubt Mangy or Phil will start on Saturday - they both played a full game. Sean & Jay only played half each, so one of them might figure.