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PaulMullinsForehead 07-10-2006 20:37

Edwards
 
Just my own opinion and it may be daft but......

If you have a top quality defender within a sqaud, with defenders of limited ability who find it difficult to well errr defend, then how come the best one with the most ability and attributes does not get picked????

Can anybody please enlighten me? Or am I missing something?

shakermaker 07-10-2006 23:01

Re: Edwards
 
Easy. Did you see the size of their forward?
Edwards would've never coped.
We needed Welchy's height.

Bagpuss 07-10-2006 23:45

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker
Easy. Did you see the size of their forward?
Edwards would've never coped.
We needed Welchy's height.

It's not Welshy who should make way.

Kiwi John 08-10-2006 06:50

Re: Edwards
 
Something has to be sorted at the back...there's more leaks there than the Titanic.

Redraine 08-10-2006 08:36

Re: Edwards
 
Forehead, see the thread below - I don't think anyone on here disagrees with you, only Coleys not listening!

shakermaker 08-10-2006 08:55

Re: Edwards
 
Am I missing something?
2nd in the league only got one against us, even that was against the run of play - what was wrong with the defending?
Good result. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Diesel 08-10-2006 09:28

Re: Edwards
 
Cav did quite well yesterday, one of a few decent game for him this season.

Rocky played well, AGAIN. I think he's getting the same uncalled for abuse as he always does to be honest. Yeah, he makes the odd silly mistake, but who honestly doesn't.

Agree with Shaker about Coleys decision not to play Edwards. Yeah, he's a cracking player, but he wouldn't of won much yesterday when it was a long ball.

Bavs had a good game overall, but his distribution was pretty bad. Not like him at all.

Gary Roberts needs to take a long, hard look at himself though, no place for diving. It makes me cringe, as it did when Rory did the same. He should've been booked for it in my humble opinion, maybe it would make him think twice.

Referee was poor, but that seems to be the norm.

maccawozzagod 08-10-2006 09:32

Re: Edwards
 
Gary should have been booked for kicking the ball away as well. The look on his face though when he looked at the Clayton End after his second blatant dive. He realised that he had won no friends with that one.

Tin Monkey 08-10-2006 09:35

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
Bavs had a good game overall, but his distribution was pretty bad. Not like him at all.

Dunbavin was to blame for the goal. He should have held onto a very weak effort, instead of presenting it to their striker for the equiliser. He was also to blame for the Wycombe goal, when he flapped at it and put it right on Mooney's head.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
Gary Roberts needs to take a long, hard look at himself though, no place for diving. It makes me cringe, as it did when Rory did the same.

Roberts and Doherty were never in the game. Very poor displays by both of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
Referee was poor, but that seems to be the norm.

Thought the referee did ok yesterday in his decision making, but his positioning was awful. Time and again he was in the way of play and either blocked a player or the ball.

Oggy 08-10-2006 09:45

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
Gary should have been booked for kicking the ball away as well. The look on his face though when he looked at the Clayton End after his second blatant dive. He realised that he had won no friends with that one.

He didn't win any friends at Partick either, and I thought he'd learned his lesson from that.

He got a very loud, and positive, " and you can F*** off hame, pal. "

My sentiments entirely, know their football these Scots.

SPUGGIE J 08-10-2006 13:41

Re: Edwards
 
Oggy they like good honest pure fitba and there are no harsher critics than Glasgow teams diehard fans. If they want to see childish dramatics then the town centre on a Friday and Saturday night is were they find it. Pity he didnt learn from it because if he does it on a regular basis when the time comes when it is the real mccoy then the boy that cried wolf comes to mind

shakermaker 08-10-2006 15:00

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J
...then the boy that cried wolf comes to mind

The story of 'the boy that got shipped off to blackpool' comes more clear to me, Spug.

Outback Ozzy 08-10-2006 16:36

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Roberts and Doherty were never in the game. Very poor displays by both of them.
Sorry TM, I thought Doherty had one of his best games yet IMHO.

Quote:

Thought the referee did ok yesterday in his decision making, but his positioning was awful. Time and again he was in the way of play and either blocked a player or the ball.
Cannot agree on this one either, he had a shocker. Missed a few descisions for both teams, to be fair.
Cav had a better than of late game. Thought he played well and tracked back when required. Welchy had his hands full all afternoon with Onibuje or whatever his name is. The League paper got it right, quick feet and height but no real skill. Too much of the fancy stepovers once more. For god's sake Coley lets cut out the fancy stuff and keep it simple. First half when playing football, Stanley were fantastic, second half, they went to pot

maccawozzagod 08-10-2006 16:39

Re: Edwards
 
to be fair to us, I think that Swindon came out with a better attitude in the second half and played the kind of football that we would have expected of them. We struggled to stay in the game when they finally started to play. But we still carved out a couple of chances.

shakermaker 08-10-2006 16:42

Re: Edwards
 
Doherty had his best game in the league so far. However wasn't good enough.
He gets so far down the wing then is stumped when confronted by a full back.
It's the reverse of Gary Roberts, Gary wants to do every trick in the book along with a gold medal winning olympic dive before he gets past a player.
Granted, sometimes it works, but more than often his antics are detremental to the team - he squandered at least 2/3 attacks yesterday needlessly.

Thought Rocky had a very good game along with Andy Todd who was exceptional.

Tin Monkey 08-10-2006 18:22

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy
Sorry TM, I thought Doherty had one of his best games yet IMHO.

What did he do? Did he put in a decent cross? Nope. Did he put in a challenge when tracking back? Nope. Did he seem to put in any effort to track back? Not really.

Time and again the play broke down when he got the ball. Compare him to Todd. They're light years apart.

I'd like to ask the question, what's the point of Doherty?

maccawozzagod 08-10-2006 18:42

Re: Edwards
 
can you believe that this time last year Andy Todd was warming the bench for lower mid table conference outfit?

Redraine 08-10-2006 18:48

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey
What did he do? Did he put in a decent cross? Nope. Did he put in a challenge when tracking back? Nope. Did he seem to put in any effort to track back? Not really.

Well actually, he did track back on occasions, but merely standing in front of an attacker without putting a foot in just won't do. It was terrible to watch as is his inabilty to beat a man. Just too light weight for me - surely we have better options?
Ironically, his only meaningfull contribution yesterday was a great ball in to Mullen about 10 seconds before he was substituted. As you say, what a contrast to Andy Todd who blasts past challenges through sheer determination plus a lot of skill - a hell of a player.

Oggy 08-10-2006 20:31

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
can you believe that this time last year Andy Todd was warming the bench for lower mid table conference outfit?

Maybe Nigel deserves some credit for his motivational skills :rolleyes: .

Toddy was great, again, and not just going forward.

Oggy 08-10-2006 22:11

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Outback Ozzy
Cav had a better than of late game. Thought he played well and tracked back when required.

Tracked back when required ?????? The mind boggles.

Diesel 09-10-2006 06:35

Re: Edwards
 
I think people are being more than a little harsh on Doherty, remembr his injuries through the years. Put yourself in his shoes, if every challenge you put in seemed to end up injuring you, would you always fly in?

Coley must see something in training. He's still young yet, give him a chance and get off his back.

Fulham payed shedloads for him, there must be some ability there.

kimberly-clark 09-10-2006 10:13

Re: Edwards
 
didnt fulham pay over 500,000 for doherty??

JEFF 09-10-2006 12:55

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kimberly-clark
didnt fulham pay over 500,000 for doherty??

I believe that the fee was "undisclosed" when he signed for Fulham from EVERTON accademy

baldy 09-10-2006 13:04

Re: Edwards
 
Any Relation to you Diesel?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel
I think people are being more than a little harsh on Doherty, remembr his injuries through the years. Put yourself in his shoes, if every challenge you put in seemed to end up injuring you, would you always fly in?

Coley must see something in training. He's still young yet, give him a chance and get off his back.

Fulham payed shedloads for him, there must be some ability there.


kimberly-clark 09-10-2006 13:51

Re: Edwards
 
it was defiantely over 500k

Bagpuss 09-10-2006 14:24

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kimberly-clark
it was defiantely over 500k

So when do we start seeing this player that is worth 500k, as well as Roberts and Welsh?

kimberly-clark 09-10-2006 14:41

Re: Edwards
 
who knows? doherty may come good, hes still only played about five games, you have got to give him a chance first to then if he doesnt pick up we can judge. gary for me is accys most overated player, i my humble opinion, he is wasteful with posession, thinks he is on a nike advert, and has never made a tackle. todd = legend. 200% every game

John_Timmins 09-10-2006 14:53

Re: Edwards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kimberly-clark
gary for me is accys most overated player, i my humble opinion, he is wasteful with posession, thinks he is on a nike advert, and has never made a tackle. todd = legend. 200% every game

although hes our top scorer :o

kimberly-clark 09-10-2006 14:55

Re: Edwards
 
"even though hes our top scorer"

even a broken watch is right twice a day, it doesnt mean a thing, hes still overated.


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