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Thanks, but no thanks.
Had a decent game & distributed well but we can not afford stupidity in our squad - had he made contact with the player he could have broken both of his legs. Idiot. |
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Good performance. Used his experience and helped organise the defence.
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...because our defence was brilliantly organised today :rolleyes::confused:
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organised them from a back four into a back three? organised them into a sloppy defenders error for goal no 1 and a goalkeeping error for goal number 2? Sorry I'm with Shakermaker on this. He won't get the sack for it and probably neither should he, but the tackle was horrendous and I didn't see enough quality in him to overshadow that stupidity. Hopefully he will miss a couple more than the three match ban and come back to be a hero for us in the run-in. If he doesn't then he wont be here next season. |
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I thought he looked ok today, although the sending off was fully justified.
He's not the only player to jump in two footed and continue to play for the club. Richardson has done a few and been sent off for the two footed lunge. |
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Just in.... Coley's been in touch with the football league saying he's made a mistake - he thought he was signing Luke Rogers
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the tackle was extremely violent and no need i n that position (on the wing/half way line just in their half for those that weren't there). But it was the afters that did him for me. You shouldn't be squaring up to people on your debut let alone swinging.
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if we are counting that way then was it not 93 minutes? only excluding the two separate minutes they scored in. Hell fire Liverpool kept a clean sheet for 84 minutes when they got tubbed of Arsenal t'other night |
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:mad: today was the worst ive seen us play this season . if nitts county werent as bad as they were we would have got absolutey slaughtered. we are going down sorry for stating the obvious bar from a miracle the defence is a shambles we need a defence coach cause coley and jimmy bell were forwards and havent have a clue how to organise a defence our left handside is non existant as usual .its ok trying fancy passes in midfield we gave the ball away to much and when you do that it costs you i didnt see any plus points today bar from macclesfield losing:( :( :mad: :mad: if i was coley i would dock the players and my own wages as he was tactily inept today what a f******g shambles juast not good enough:(
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And btw we ARE NOT GOING DOWN .. we have LOADS of injuries and when they're all back which they will be soon then we will be on fire.. And if coley and jimmy dont know what their doing in defence then why are we in the football league and have had 3 championships in about 5 or 6 years..?? |
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what game was you watching, stanley were CRAP |
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first half : BRILLIANT Second Half : GOOD How does that some up to ' being the worst performance ever ' and being ' crap ' ..?? |
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Apart from routine work, what did the Notts County 'keeper have to do today? Nothing!! He made no 'saves' all afternoon. How can that be brilliant?
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accy stanley 5 - 0 wrexham accy stanley 3 - 1 wrexham accy stanley 1 - 0 Notts Forest accy stanley beat BLAKCPOOL and they're in league one ... Notts Forest are in league one and we beat both of them .. AND we beat carlisle and they're in league one ... and if we can beat league one opposition then we can beat league two opposition.....And another question for ya ARE YOU EVEN A STANLEY SUPPORTER..?? and if you are then get behind them and not just pick out the bad bits in every performance |
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Notts County were crap though and they were there fpr the taking. Except for bits of interplay involving Todd an A.N. OTHER there was little or no football played. We keep trying to put it over the heads of defenders and play in expert passes rather than trying to play around them. Too often the ball is played and two players run on for it only for the defender to easily intercept and then play forward when we are two men lighter.
Mullin is still good enough but he is constantly doing the job of two or three others, he was still running and closing down on the wing with only seconds to go. The midfield is the biggest problem and always has been. I like Proccy and have been one of his biggest advocators...... but it aint happening for him this year. The full backs are not supporting the midfield adequately enough and this makes us lighter in that area but more importantly puts pressure straight back onto the defenders when play breaks down - which is does time and time again. Lets put people in there favoured positions firstly. Just because Rocky is one of the favoured centre backs does not make him our second choice midfielder for example, just because Boco can play midfield doesn't mean we should play our third choice striker and put Boco in midfield for example. Put the best player for that position in that position and then see whats left and try to bridge the gaps. I know we are heavy on injuries at the moment but we have been doing this all season long and it has done us nothing. 19 games left Mr Coleman, lets see what you've got |
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come on!!!!
19 wins out of 19....do-able 51 points from 51 will certainly get us high in the league..:):) |
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Accrington Stanley 1-0 Nottingham Forest In The Carling Cup .... one of the best games of the whole season |
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seems a long time ago right now. I have no doubt that we will collect a few more wins before the end of the season. Where we end up though is anybody's guess right now. I also have no doubt that next season will bring more highs than this one has no matter which league we are in. I have no doubt that before the end of the season we will all be celebrating something Stanley and days like today will be forgotten. I have no doubt that somebody will doubt me .... |
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Stan-er-ly,
Its not often that T.M. and I agree, but on this occasion He IS right............we were bloody awful today, and if you could see your way to removing those Rose tinted glasses you must be wearing then you too would see what He means! We all pay our money to watch, and in all honesty the performance today was not worth £13/£15/£8.........we were at best poor and at worst shambolic. Rogers, IMHO, showed some class at times today, but the sending off was right for what was a stupid and extremely dangerous tackle, and then to come out swinging just exacerbated the problem......NO EXCUSE. Finally, I'm sorry but I must question your command of the English language, do you actually know what the word 'immense' means?........:D |
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Bury did us a big favour today. 2-0 down against torquay, scored 2 late on to snatch a draw. if torquay would have won, they would have been within 3points!
Also in the Bury times there was a letter from a bury season ticket holder who had gone to the game on boxing day against us. he said he was embarrassed by their fans behaviour as they were chanting rude things whilst the opera singer was singing nessun dorma. He was annoyed as we had helped them during their troubled times! Everyday i look at the bbc website in the transfer section hoping for some new signings, i must look 10 times a day and i'm always bloody disappointed. It must be really hard to try and convince good players to come to the club. If you were Luke Rodgers for instance, would you come? i didnt go to todays game so cant comment, sounds like we were poor |
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Oh give it a rest.
All those results came at a time when everyone was fit and no-one had left for pastures new. Having Boco back today didn't give us the lift we had hoped for either but he's gonna need time to get back into it too. Here's how I see the situation as it stands:- Goalkeepers :- we have 2 very decent goalkeepers who are unfortunately making errors at the moment and seem to be lacking in confidence. I my opinion the exit of Andy Dibble and his coaching have been the prime reason for this, and we all know that Coley doesn't know what the hell to do with goalkeepers apart from shout at them and blame them for everything!!! Defence :- Almost the same unit as last year, the problem for me appears to be the lack of consistancy. Last year the defence had someone to turn to in Cooky that they could ask questions and turn to for advice, this year they had Dibble, He's gone and now they're feeling the effects of their own lack of assurance on top of that of the goalkeepers lack of confidence. Can I just say as well that we've never had the best of defenses and Coleys reign is certainly not glowing with watertight defending!!! This year the mistakes are being punished, last year they weren't. Simple as. Midfield :- For me this were our problems are at their biggest. We've all got to accept the loss of Gary and Ian has been mortally wounding, you don't just lose the player you lose there impact on the rest of the team and mostly their goals. We have some good players in replacement but I honestly don't think you can just replace players of that caliber and not miss them terribly. The problem is that we've replaced two fairly polished gems with two rough looking diamonds in Harris and Whalley, they're gonna need time to polish up and we haven't got it. Strikers :- We haven't got a killer. We haven't got a guarenteed 20 goals a season man, we've got a few lads that will chip in with anything up to 10 a season and we've got mully who'll always provide a threat in the air and get us 15 or so goals. But we need a killer more than ever now as we're no longer going to get the goals from midfield that we've enjoyed for the last couple of seasons, I actually thought Leighton McGivern could be it but with him out for the season I now believe we're sadly lacking. And then there's Mr Rogers, not quite the donkey a few of you are making him out to be, I thought he was lucky to get away with a few things in the first half but generally he kept the back line talking and his reading of the game was probably the best on the park today, if we're going to survive we may need all the experience he carries with him. However, the tackle that saw him sent is probably the worst I've seem on the FES in a good many years and if his experience is to count for anything then he needs to learn that relegation dogfight doesn't actually mean put your fists up son your next!!! The jury is out, I just hope we're not. |
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Rogers looked good to me today before the red mist came down. What on earth was the Radio Lancashire bloke on about after the match? "County defender's bad tackle and Rogers raised arm".
What we are crying out for is a holding midfielder instead of the present crash bang wallop tactic, although I am hoping Harris can take this role on when available. County were crap but have a big, strong, fast defence - the type which we are finding difficult to break down after the loss of our 2 quality players. Elliott redeemed himself for his error with some good saves in the second half, but will we ever have a goalie who is reliable enough? We have never satifactorily replaced Jamie Speare in my opinion. Good job other results went for us today - how can we get 3 points on Tuesday with yet another re-scrambled defence? By the way, where was Rikki Bains today? |
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sat on the pool table last I saw of him
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Overall stanley played quite badly.
We seem to look ok when we are on attack, we can pass the ball very well at times. We cant seem to finsh any chances at the moment though. But when we dont have the ball we seem to look very nervous.(beause the team know we need to win) The defence don't know whether their coming or going. Swapping them around all the time must unsettle them EG dont know who is doing what, but this cant be helped until we find a good back four that can play together. I think we will be able to stay up this season if we can find a gd back four that can play together. A stong centre mid, and a striker. AND START TO PLAY LIKE THE STANLEY WE KNEW LAST SEASON !!!!!! |
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What we need now is some good solid pro's who can play and help coach, players who have been in this position before players who have the know how. I wasnt at todays game so i cant comment on Rogers. Having had a rant my belief is we may hit some form, we arnt a bad side just a side lacking in confidence which i thought was regained at Wrexham ! I feel we are better than a number of sides in the league but we need some consistency !!! the lack of discipline isnt helping here.:eek: I still believe we will finish comfortably :) but we need to wake up on and off the pitch FAST. |
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Like you, I cannot comment on Mr Rogers, but if what I have read is true, then 3 games will be lucky for us. Indiscipline is one thing we must stamp on (no pun intended) NOW and players must be fined heavily for any indiscipline. We can be better than our position is, as we were earlier in the season. Most of the supporters stated that 3rd bottom of the league at the end of the season would be a success, but I for one do not want to live on my nerves for the next four months. :eek: Can't be at the game on Tuesday either, due to work commitments, I will always be willing the Reds on and hoping we can get another 3 points, but games are running out and I fear we will be the laughing stock of the Conference if we go back down so soon after promotion. |
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As for Mr.Rogers, can't better Shakermaker's thread starter, thanks but no thanks. What does Coley have against Edwards????? We were actually a lot better today than against Boston, but losing against two such poor teams is hard to take. Cart On Stanley. |
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I thought Rogers had a great game before the sending off. His long throw caused chaos in the county box and i thought he was our best player by a mile until his early bath. After he went we struggled to create many chances.
Richardson has been solid all season and doesn't deserve to be dropped but that doesn't mean he can play in any position, Rikki Bains has done well and didn't deserve to be sacraficed for the need to play Richardson. The first goal came from that side and the move should have been nipped in the bud before the ball hit the back of the net. Coley obviously has a problem in that he has to keep the players happy and playing first team football but if your playing lads out of their favoured position they will still give 100% but they will be out of there depth. I honestly thought the wrexham game was a turning point for us. It was the best i've seen us play in some time, we looked lethal going forward. What has happened? |
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I really wonder why we signed Rogers.
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We've got a ****** good right back in Edwards, if only Coley would play him REGULARLY in that position. He's our best bet by far in that position and should be the first player on our team sheet.
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Perhaps JC is a visitor to this forum.Reverse phsycology(sp) may be required. "EDWARDS WORST PLATER IN SQUAD.".... "MANGAN IS PERFECT AS A SUB ONLY." etc may help him to go the percieved right way by doing the opposite. :).
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I think that a back four of Edwards, Williams, Welch, Richardson is as good as any in League 2. What they need is the chance to play as a unit regularly. If Rogers proves to be any good, he could move to left back with Leam Richardson pushed up to a defensive midfield role. Apart from injury, this defensive unit has been disrupted by too many suspensions. Good coaching will teach them that there will be cover for a lost/missed tackle, and that desperate foul tackles to foil an attack (the reason for so many yellow cards in the game at Bristol) are not necessary.
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Saw the Rogers foul on telly this morning. Only going off the one brief viewing of it that looked very bad. 3 game ban for violent conduct what will the extra be for attempted murder :eek:
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Rogers jumped and went in two footed, I think the County player actually slid under him! Like I said earlier; had Rogers made contact the opposition player would be very very lucky to play football again. |
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Rogers - got him as an experienced Pro; so what the heck was he doing? :o :mad: Is Greg Challender doing nowt, he'd be cheaper :rolleyes: . |
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now that would be clutching at straws, but right! |
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According to the Observer, Rogers has been signed on a month's loan, so possibly that could be his first and last match for us? Although, I don't know how sound their information is...if he wasn't with a club, then who's he on a month's loan from? :confused:
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I agree Bains should not have been sacrificed as hes been playing well as R/back, the 4 games hes been involved in proofs that, why change a winning team. Does anyone know why he wasn't picked?
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why was Edwards not playing should be a regularly first team player, solid defender, does JC know what he's doing?
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Baines wasn't playing because obviously like others before him his face does not fit, the lad looks really promising too me. Coleman is being far to loyal certain players who quite frankly are out of their depth (including the management come to think of it).
On another note can the club please issue Mr Rogers with a larger pair of shorts for his next appearance, those yesterday were sprayed on, no wonder he wanted an early bath! |
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Why change a winning team? Thanks for that, made me laugh ;) . |
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How can Baines face not fit he's gorgeous if only I was 18 years younger,
your right JC needs to get his finger out, and put players on that perform and give 100% every game, the likes of Edwards, Baines and Jacobs. Will be pleased to see Dunbavin back a.s.a.p |
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what I meant was that we have conceded less goals playing Edwards and Baines.
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