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Haggis316 19-09-2007 20:23

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Rob Heys' Interview and some feedback from Myfootballclub supporter:

Fan Power: Another One Bites The Dust

carpon 20-09-2007 00:55

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Hopefully MFC have got the message.

Interesting to note that L.U.F.C are now top of their list. If Cuddly Ken Bates sells out to MFC then that's their lookout !!!

Seriously though, If this club that I love, is to survive as a league team, we have to get behind the efforts of all the people who are working hard to keep us where we aspired to be.

Bums on seats,feet on terrace,Turnstile clicking .(hopefully past the 2,500 mark):D

Jimbo T Hornblower 21-09-2007 07:29

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I doubt these fantasy football madmen would be welcome anywhere so why dont they do what FCUM did and just start their own club up? That way, if they screw it up they only screw themselves....

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

doheochai 22-09-2007 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbo T Hornblower (Post 472645)
I doubt these fantasy football madmen would be welcome anywhere so why dont they do what FCUM did and just start their own club up? That way, if they screw it up they only screw themselves....

Jimbo T :horn8:blower

Interestingly, a number of MFC members who live near Accrington attended Stanley's last home game and posted a gernerally positive response from the people they spoke to on the terraces. This is not to say that MFC are looking to purchase AS - just that discuccions took place with some fans. MFC members are only too well aware that some fans will be hostile to MFC no matter what club we buy. Starting a club from scratch is not an option because no matter where we go we will be stepping on someones toes.

As regards screwing up anything - The worst that can happen to the club MFC buy is that the club will receive a financial injection of at least £1million. As I said before MFC is prohibited, by its own rules, from borrowing money and placing the club in debt, or entering contracts that could create a future financial burden on the club. In relation to AS - Eric Whalley has suggested that the club will not progress without further investment.

By the way - I actually don't favour MFC attempting to purchase AS, but many MFC members do. Either way I wish the club and its fans all the best.

Oggy 22-09-2007 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 473075)
Interestingly, a number of MFC members who live near Accrington attended Stanley's last home game and posted a gernerally positive response from the people they spoke to on the terraces.

They weren't stood in the open, by any chance. :rolleyes:

Secondly, if they live near Accy, and support "football" why aren't they attending anyway, or do they just like window shopping? :p

(Nothing personal, BTW.)

doheochai 22-09-2007 18:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oggy (Post 473167)
Secondly, if they live near Accy, and support "football" why aren't they attending anyway,

Well Accrington is surrounded by a lot of other football clubs - so, I presume, they are probably supporters of other clubs (cue comments about not wanting supporters of other clubs owning yours)

Oggy 22-09-2007 19:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 473175)
Well Accrington is surrounded by a lot of other football clubs - so, I presume, they are probably supporters of other clubs (cue comments about not wanting supporters of other clubs owning yours)

You don't get it do you pal? :(

And you never will!!

Just do the decent thing, and go away.

BTLawson 22-09-2007 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oggy (Post 473194)
You don't get it do you pal? :(

And you never will!!

Just do the decent thing, and go away.

Well said :D

Haggis316 22-09-2007 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 473175)
Well Accrington is surrounded by a lot of other football clubs - so, I presume, they are probably supporters of other clubs (cue comments about not wanting supporters of other clubs owning yours)

Was Bob Lord an Accy supporter from a surrounding club?

carpon 23-09-2007 03:41

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Re : Mr Doheochai.

Whilst I am sure that MFC and its members wish to make some form of "positive" contribution to a football club, it's plainly and blaitantly obvious that the fans and dare I say it the officials of this wonderfull club do not want to indulge in /or entertain the intentions of your consortium.

The whole concept of the MFC scenario is plainly and simply "FANTASY FOOTBALL"

This club is not the figment of some idealistic scenario.The Chairman,board,management,players,staff and fans have worked hard,TOGETHER, to put this club back into the national spotlight.

UNLESS it is plainly indicated by the powers that control this fantastic club, I Feel ,the general concensus of fans of this club do not wish to indulge in this "Fantasy Football Experiment":o

Bagpuss 23-09-2007 08:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggis316 (Post 473295)
Was Bob Lord an Accy supporter from a surrounding club?

I actually spoke to 2 of these MFC people and I said I was still gathering info and was still undecided but that statement Haggis has swayed me into the go away MFC we only want Stanley fans running our club.

Kiwi John 23-09-2007 09:26

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Stuff all this 'My Football Club' bizzo....It could be MY( as in me Kiwi Johns') football club cause I am the only person in NZ who is 'alive' in the footy pools after 5 games.I will wake up tomorrow AM (NZ) ,race to the computer and hopefully find that Scum,Newcastle and Bolton have all won by1-2 goals and the other 2 games are draws...then Accy could be owned by a colonial git...:D how would that go down????

doheochai 24-09-2007 20:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carpon (Post 473328)
Re : Mr Doheochai.

Whilst I am sure that MFC and its members wish to make some form of "positive" contribution to a football club, it's plainly and blaitantly obvious that the fans and dare I say it the officials of this wonderfull club do not want to indulge in /or entertain the intentions of your consortium.

That is quite possible - We do know that as late as this week another club has approached MFC for discussions and a meeting was held with club officials and the club manager (this now makes eight clubs that MFC are currently in negotiations with).

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The whole concept of the MFC scenario is plainly and simply "FANTASY FOOTBALL"
Have to disagree with you here. I am not in the least interested in 'fantasy football'. I want to be involved, as a football fan, with running a club - something fans should be doing in every club in the country.

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This club is not the figment of some idealistic scenario.The Chairman,board,management,players,staff and fans have worked hard,TOGETHER, to put this club back into the national spotlight.
Acknowledged and absolutely agree. Everyone involved with the club have made a magnificant effort to get the club to its current position (remember I said earlier that I wasn't in favour of MFC buying Stanley - and this is the reason - MFC should not (and as far as I know isn't) be looking to buy a club that has been well run and has fans actively supporting the board.

By the way a number of MFC members are planning to go to a Stanley game in the next couple of weeks - please give them a warm welcome - afterall they are giving a little boost to the crowd numbers and that can't be bad.

shakermaker 24-09-2007 20:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 473895)
I want to be involved, as a football fan, with running a club - something fans should be doing in every club in the country.

This is where the fundamental difference with us folk lies, sir.
Fans should stay fans.
We should spectate, not dictate.
Football clubs have boards of directors for a reason - THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING!
Fans don't.

doheochai 24-09-2007 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 473904)
This is where the fundamental difference with us folk lies, sir.
Fans should stay fans.
We should spectate, not dictate.
Football clubs have boards of directors for a reason - THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING!
Fans don't.

Really have to disagree with you here - how many clubs have been f*cked-up by their chairmen/boards? In all honesty there is absolutely no reason why fans couldn't do as well - if not better - than most of them. You should have more confidence in the ability of ordinary fans to know what is best for a football club.

Specifically in relation to MFC - unlike current owners - MFC, because of its rules, cannot put a club into debt or sign contract for which money hasn't be secured. Even with Man Utd the Glaziers put the club in hock to the tune of £400million to fund their takeover.

In terms of decision making - current owners have their own agenda which don't always mean they operate in the best interests of the club. MFC members cannot make any financial gain from their membership so decisions would be made in the best interests of the club - not the best interests of the owner.

shakermaker 24-09-2007 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 473922)
Really have to disagree with you here...

Then we'll have to agree to disagree.
All the best with your investment, but please tell your lot not to come near my club :)

doheochai 24-09-2007 21:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 473927)
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.

Hopefully we'll get a chance to prove you wrong.

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All the best with your investment, but please tell your lot not to come near my club :)
Have absolutely no influence there - MFC are in negotiations with eight clubs (Think it is unlikely - but you never know Stanley could be one of them - confidentiality is a b*tch) - and the takeover team will pick the one with the most potential (if a deal can be done).

Willie Miller 24-09-2007 22:21

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Stanley - the Club that wouldn't Die

(Unless a set of muppets with £35 to waste get hold of it, get bored & move on to another daft web based try to get rich quick scheme. Have you not got real clubs to invest your £35 into, the ones you've always followed)

doheochai 25-09-2007 18:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 473938)
another daft web based try to get rich quick scheme.

Just for clarification - the members of MFC cannot make any financial gain from the purchase of the club (it's in the rules of MFC). If the club is sold any funds will be distributed to charity (however, in all likelihood if/when MFC withdraws from club ownership - the club could well be sold to a supporters trust for a nominal fee).

maccawozzagod 25-09-2007 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474153)
when MFC withdraws from club ownership - the club could well be sold to a supporters trust for a nominal fee).

Had the OSC better start saving up?

Willie Miller 25-09-2007 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474153)
Just for clarification - the members of MFC cannot make any financial gain from the purchase of the club (it's in the rules of MFC). If the club is sold any funds will be distributed to charity (however, in all likelihood if/when MFC withdraws from club ownership - the club could well be sold to a supporters trust for a nominal fee).

OK daft hair brained make yourself feel important scheme

:confused:

carpon 25-09-2007 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474153)
If the club is sold any funds will be distributed to charity (however, in all likelihood if/when MFC withdraws from club ownership - the club could well be sold to a supporters trust for a nominal fee).

Why doesn't MFC save its members and the fans of the football club MFC intends to take over (and probably ruin) a lot of heartache and hassle ??

Instead of throwing £35 at an idea, that,while nice in it's idealistic intentions, Will probably be doomed to fail, donate your £35 to a worthwhile and deserving charity (and there's plenty of those) That way some good will come from the £35 burning a hole in your pockets.:)

Willie Miller 25-09-2007 23:29

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Listen MFC Members.....

Accrington Stanley is a real club. It has a tradition & a history that sets it apart from others. Real life directors who have invested twenty times the amount of effort & time that your franchise could come up with. Thats not withstanding the personal money sunk into it & the time taken away from leisure & family pursuits to drive our great club forward. This is something that everybody who has ever done anything for this unique football club can understand. They Can remember with fondness & feel that they in some way helped make it happen. They remember the hard times (Barrow away) & more importantly the good (Radcliffe away). They can share stories around the place with like minded Stanley fans who have also experienced; laughed or cried with them. Despite having one of the lowest gates in the League there is such a great feel about ASFC. It sounds daft but it grabs you & it keeps you hooked (well most of us) It is something that is sometimes missed on a forum because debating gripes & side issues can take over. However, I know that owner, manager, staff & fans are united in their love for all things red & white.

You can see this in the passion on the terrace. You can see it in the friendliness in the stands. ASFC will live forever.

Now back to your concept. Although cash is king in football, the majority of sensible honest fans at Accy Stanley would be horrified to suddenly have all this "fake" interest in our club. Especially when most of the Uk only remember ASFC for the "Milk Marketing Boards" advert choice in 1985.

I mean what effect do you really think it would have on the whole make up of the enterprise that is OUR club. A 2 million investment we ain't worked for. New players on contracts we never could afford. A new ground handed to us. They all sound great but then - and this brings me to the real heart of the matter. Something I care more about than promotion, or a roof, or Evils new shoes...........

WHERE OH WHERE HAS OUR SOUL GONE...............?

Well I'm afraid £35 of it went to Dulwich
£35 to Harrogate
£35 to Milton Keynes
£35 to Cleveleys
£35 to Orkney
£35 to Isle of Wight..................

ACCRINGTON STANLEY (A club whose real value is measured in the memories of the folk who fought to get it where it is today)

STAY AWAY LADS (as I know I will if I end up stood next to Mr Harrogate or Mr Orkney!) :(

Oggy 26-09-2007 07:10

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Listen MFC Members.....

You've probably done us a favour by provoking many posts on what being a fan is all about, not least Willie Miller's post above.

Goodbye. :wave:

Alvin the chipmunk 26-09-2007 08:49

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To paraphrase Mr Churchill: "Never have so few vented so much fury at so many!"

STAY AWAY.

Bagpuss 26-09-2007 10:39

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I was a swayer but now reading these posts I'm now firmly in the camp that says "LEAVE STANLEY ALONE".

Shurm 26-09-2007 12:12

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At the end of the day if the club don't want to get involved with MFC they don't have to, no one can just take the club over !! If Eric and the management want to talk to them they can, and if they want MFC to get involved there is nothing anyone can do really. :confused:

okuz 26-09-2007 16:50

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i for 1 hope we take your tiny club off your hands and build it..because quite frankly you have not got a clue, any of you. So when we buy your little club and start playing fantasy football with it i want you lot to stay the hell away. i am going to put your goal keeper on the wing and the manager in the net...oh what fun we will have at your expense, going to be well worth 35 quid:Banane27:

maccawozzagod 26-09-2007 17:01

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and I will barricade the gates so your poxy new board of shareholders can't get anywhere near.

lancsdave 26-09-2007 17:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by okuz (Post 474458)
i for 1 hope we take your tiny club off your hands and build it..because quite frankly you have not got a clue, any of you. So when we buy your little club and start playing fantasy football with it i want you lot to stay the hell away. i am going to put your goal keeper on the wing and the manager in the net...oh what fun we will have at your expense, going to be well worth 35 quid:Banane27:

Another fine example of customer relations from the subbuteo outfit :)

Chimer 26-09-2007 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by okuz (Post 474458)
..... going to be well worth 35 quid:Banane27:

Your 35 quid's gone already mate, you've been scammed :confused:

melonhigh 26-09-2007 17:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by okuz (Post 474458)
i for 1 hope we take your tiny club off your hands and build it..because quite frankly you have not got a clue, any of you. So when we buy your little club and start playing fantasy football with it i want you lot to stay the hell away. i am going to put your goal keeper on the wing and the manager in the net...oh what fun we will have at your expense, going to be well worth 35 quid:Banane27:

I could possibly, just possibly, have been tempted to risk £35 with MyFC, but having read the above it's blatantly obvious that it involves morons and no brainers. Think I'll save my money and buy some extra pies at the next home game. What rubbish!!!

Stanleymad 26-09-2007 17:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by okuz (Post 474458)
i for 1 hope we take your tiny club off your hands and build it..because quite frankly you have not got a clue, any of you. So when we buy your little club and start playing fantasy football with it i want you lot to stay the hell away. i am going to put your goal keeper on the wing and the manager in the net...oh what fun we will have at your expense, going to be well worth 35 quid:Banane27:

What a no-brainer u are, perfect mangerial sence is that ^^^ - no fans = no club:rolleyes:

Get a clue & a life:( - mind u getting one brain cell would be hard enough for you!

carpon 26-09-2007 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by okuz (Post 474458)
i for 1 hope we take your tiny club off your hands and build it..because quite frankly you have not got a clue, any of you. So when we buy your little club and start playing fantasy football with it i want you lot to stay the hell away. i am going to put your goal keeper on the wing and the manager in the net...oh what fun we will have at your expense, going to be well worth 35 quid:Banane27:

These jokers associated with MFC simply don't get the message do they??
Let me spell it out plain and simply:

THE MAJORITY OF FANS AT THIS CLUB DO NOT WANT MFC !!! GET THE MESSAGE ???:mad:

So go and irritate somebody else !!

Stanleymad 26-09-2007 17:24

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If this MFC want to do something a lot more productive with their £35 why not donate it to the OSC instead, you will get more out of that than with this stupid fantasy crap!:D

doheochai 26-09-2007 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by okuz (Post 474458)
i for 1 hope we take your tiny club off your hands and build it..because quite frankly you have not got a clue, any of you. So when we buy your little club and start playing fantasy football with it i want you lot to stay the hell away. i am going to put your goal keeper on the wing and the manager in the net...oh what fun we will have at your expense, going to be well worth 35 quid:Banane27:

I seriously doubt that this person is a member of MFC - the sentiments expressed here do not represent that views of the membership of MFC as expressed on the MFC forums. It is clearly an attempt by someone hostile to MFC to stir things in a very negative fashion. I suggest you take them with a very large spoon of salt.

maccawozzagod 26-09-2007 17:56

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....as we do the whole concept

okuz 26-09-2007 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carpon (Post 474479)
These jokers associated with MFC simply don't get the message do they??
Let me spell it out plain and simply:

THE MAJORITY OF FANS AT THIS CLUB DO NOT WANT MFC !!! GET THE MESSAGE ???:mad:

So go and irritate somebody else !!

you just don't understand....its not what u want its what we want and we are going to take your little club and play with it until we get bored then we will leave you in the s**t lmfao :Banane37:

okuz 26-09-2007 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474484)
I seriously doubt that this person is a member of MFC - the sentiments expressed here do not represent that views of the membership of MFC as expressed on the MFC forums. It is clearly an attempt by someone hostile to MFC to stir things in a very negative fashion. I suggest you take them with a very large spoon of salt.

oh yes i am look me up

Oggy 26-09-2007 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474484)
I seriously doubt that this person is a member of MFC - the sentiments expressed here do not represent that views of the membership of MFC as expressed on the MFC forums. It is clearly an attempt by someone hostile to MFC to stir things in a very negative fashion. I suggest you take them with a very large spoon of salt.

Actually he sounds much more fun than you, doesn't have that actuarial, "joy of an undertaker" feel, that your posts have.

Squabbling amongst yourselves already, and you've done nowt yet. :p

Willie Miller 26-09-2007 18:12

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I found you mate & copy & pasted your profile

Name: Oliver Kuntz
Age: 42 (going on 12)
Occupation: Parking Attendant First Class
Hobbies Sitting in soiled undercrackers spouting drivel to strangers cecause all my friends hate my personality & bad manners. Never been kissed because of my coma inducing body odour.
Ambition To be one of 50,000 other internet "Roman Abramovich"s' who think they'll be special for £35 per year

Adios Loser

okuz 26-09-2007 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 474497)
I found you mate & copy & pasted your profile

Name: Oliver Kuntz
Age: 42 (going on 12)
Occupation: Parking Attendant First Class
Hobbies Sitting in soiled undercrackers spouting drivel to strangers cecause all my friends hate my personality & bad manners. Never been kissed because of my coma inducing body odour.
Ambition To be one of 50,000 other internet "Roman Abramovich"s' who think they'll be special for £35 per year

Adios Loser

i resent that......i am 41:Banane20:

doheochai 26-09-2007 18:26

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Now to address the real comments -

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 474290)
Accrington Stanley is a real club. It has a tradition & a history that sets it apart from others. Real life directors who have invested twenty times the amount of effort & time that your franchise could come up with. Thats not withstanding the personal money sunk into it & the time taken away from leisure & family pursuits to drive our great club forward. This is something that everybody who has ever done anything for this unique football club can understand. They Can remember with fondness & feel that they in some way helped make it happen. They remember the hard times (Barrow away) & more importantly the good (Radcliffe away). They can share stories around the place with like minded Stanley fans who have also experienced; laughed or cried with them. Despite having one of the lowest gates in the League there is such a great feel about ASFC. It sounds daft but it grabs you & it keeps you hooked (well most of us) It is something that is sometimes missed on a forum because debating gripes & side issues can take over. However, I know that owner, manager, staff & fans are united in their love for all things red & white. You can see this in the passion on the terrace. You can see it in the friendliness in the stands. ASFC will live forever.

I agree whole-heartedly with everything you say here and so would every member of MFC.

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Now back to your concept. Although cash is king in football, the majority of sensible honest fans at Accy Stanley would be horrified to suddenly have all this "fake" interest in our club. Especially when most of the Uk only remember ASFC for the "Milk Marketing Boards" advert choice in 1985.
I, for one, knew about Accrington Stanley long before the said adverts. The members of MFC are all football fans - they are interested in what is best for football and the fans who pay every week at the gates. Over the past twenty or so years football has changed dramatically. Football fans have had to sit by and watch their clubs (in most cases) being driven into debt by owners who couldn't care less about the club they own and what happens to it or the supporters. MFC is about putting football fans in control. It's about creating a situation where the fans make the decisions. It's about involving all football fans in demonstrating that supporters know just as much, if not more about running a football club than any chairman/owner. It's about involving the whole community in developing a football club. And it's about changing how people look at football, the need to no longer accept that you have to have a Roman Abramovich or Malcolm Glazier or whoever to be successful, the fact that football fans without any money can compete with the billionaires, that football is about the people who pass through the turnstiles and stand on the terraces.

The interest that some MFC members have in Accrington Stanley is not 'fake' interest. It's a genuine interest in helping any football club that we can and that need our help. MFC members are football fans. They support many different clubs but they all have a passion for the sport and they all want to see the way the sport is run changed so that football supporters have a say in their game.

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I mean what effect do you really think it would have on the whole make up of the enterprise that is OUR club. A 2 million investment we ain't worked for. New players on contracts we never could afford. A new ground handed to us. They all sound great but then - and this brings me to the real heart of the matter. Something I care more about than promotion, or a roof, or Evils new shoes...........
The money is a very minor part of what MFC is about. MFC rules prohibit any club we purchase from entering into player (or other) contracts that are unsustainable without MFC involvement. In other words unless the money is set aside for the contracts they cannot happen. MFC has to run the club on a break-even basis. The money could contribute to transfer fees - re-developing the ground - improving training facilities - developing a youth academy - bring the club into the community - and making sure that supporters aren't fleeced by constant rises in ticket prices, merchandise etc.

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WHERE OH WHERE HAS OUR SOUL GONE...............?
I would put it this way - is your soul not big enough to take on board people who will do nothing else except operate in the best interests of the club - who will involve as many existing and new fans as possible - who will work with the local community to maximise community involvement.

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Well I'm afraid £35 of it went to Dulwich
£35 to Harrogate
£35 to Milton Keynes
£35 to Cleveleys
£35 to Orkney
£35 to Isle of Wight..................
in reality the £35 is coming FROM these places (and many others all over the world) not going to these places

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ACCRINGTON STANLEY (A club whose real value is measured in the memories of the folk who fought to get it where it is today)
Do Stanley fans only live in the past? Memories are important - but they are not limited. Whatever club MFC purchases - the members of MFC and the existing fans will create new memories - and hopefully memories (good and bad) that will be cherished for a long time.

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STAY AWAY LADS (as I know I will if I end up stood next to Mr Harrogate or Mr Orkney!) :(
As I said before I do not think that MFC will become the new owners of Stanley. The ownership, board, staff and fans at Stanley have done a magnificant job over the past period. I personally wouldn't want to disrupt this situation. I sincerely hope that Stanley continues to develop, as I do with every club that is struggling in the current situation. I want MFC to purchase a club that is in serious need of the help we can provide (both financial and organisational) that has fans in desperate need of a new situation and that has an owner who doesn't give tuppence about the club. I don't know if Stanley is one of the eight clubs that MFC are negotiating with (as I said before I think it is unlikely) but if we are - then it is because Mr Whalley feels we have something very positive to offer the club.

The memebrs of MFC are very confident that we can make a positive contribution to a club and to football in general - here's hoping time will prove us correct.

Willie Miller 26-09-2007 18:40

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Thanks for the response but the magic would be lost .... Gone forever hidden beneath a football gimmick that would have the media drooling & the club somehow "gone". Its soul would be gone just because the mission statement says buy a club, any club :(

The history of football is littered with magical stories & anecdotes but I'm afraid there ain't nothing magical about "well we all get together & put our £35 ........"

doheochai 26-09-2007 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 474506)
The history of football is littered with magical stories & anecdotes but I'm afraid there ain't nothing magical about "well we all get together & put our £35 ........"

This is something that has never been tried before - and only time will tell if it has 'soul' or not.

melonhigh 26-09-2007 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474524)
This is something that has never been tried before - and only time will tell if it has 'soul' or not.

Ah, soul! :D

Oggy 26-09-2007 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by melonhigh (Post 474532)
Ah, soul! :D

Brilliant!

That's told the ambulance chasers. :p

sameday 26-09-2007 20:08

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You could always buy Barrow FC. Then you'd only have to pay 35 pence each.;)

This idea is perfect for a Harwood Town revival :)

lancsdave 26-09-2007 20:16

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474524)
This is something that has never been tried before - and only time will tell if it has 'soul' or not.

I recall asking you about supporting a football club and you said you didn't.

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No disrespect but I find that strange. The growth of myfc has been based on promoting itself through foottball forums such as this. That would suggest most members already have a first club. Do you not already support a club ?
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Actually I don't - most do but not all

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I fail to see how anyone who doesn't actually support a club to understand what 'soul' means to a true football supporter. Anyone can watch from an armchair but the only soul there is the one you sit on :confused:

Oggy 26-09-2007 21:04

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 474545)
I fail to see how anyone who doesn't actually support a club to understand what 'soul' means to a true football supporter.

If he doesn't get banter, he won't get soul, and most of the banter directed at this guy has gone totally over his head.

I wouldn't wish MFC on anyone, "have you tried Barrow", was a euphemism, not a suggestion. :rolleyes:

Ever heard Dylan's, "Ballad of a Thin Man", Mr. Doheochai ? :rolleyz8:

doheochai 26-09-2007 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 474545)
I recall asking you about supporting a football club and you said you didn't.

I fail to see how anyone who doesn't actually support a club to understand what 'soul' means to a true football supporter. Anyone can watch from an armchair but the only soul there is the one you sit on :confused:

My local football club (an amateur team) folded many years ago after spending years struggling to survive - emigration of people in their late teens and twenties from the west of Ireland throughout the 1980's eventually put paid to its continued existance. I spent a number of years coaching one of the underage teams but by 1990 we couldn't even find enough kids to make up the underage teams because all the young families had left. It's not a very nice experience to see something you (and a lot of others) are passionate about, fail for economic reasons (and this with an amateur team). Makes me want to do what I can to ensure that other clubs survive - and MFC is an ideal vehicle for me to play a role and have an impact. I believe if it is a success it could actually change the way people look at football. Having moved from my home town I still continue to coach a youth team (both at football and basketball) but the team where I live now were one of my own clubs main local rivals (couldn't ever see myself actively supporting them - although I do attend games on a fairly regular basis and my son plays for their youths team).

I also do enjoy watching football on tele. Don't see the crime in that.

doheochai 26-09-2007 21:40

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Originally Posted by Oggy (Post 474579)
If he doesn't get banter, he won't get soul, and most of the banter directed at this guy has gone totally over his head.

You know exactly what I get and don't get - well done - nice to know you can see inside my mind - maybe it's a cultural thing.

I am not on this thread to engage in banter - but to address mis-information and mis-conceptions that have been posted here about what MFC is and is not.

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Ever heard Dylan's, "Ballad of a Thin Man", Mr. Doheochai ? :rolleyz8:
This one I get http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/i...ons/icon12.gif - good one this.

shakermaker 26-09-2007 21:44

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These people are really getting on my tits now.
I hope they buy Leeds.
& completely run it into Unibond obscurity :D

Willie Miller 26-09-2007 21:49

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If you or your fellow members did understand the real meaning of "heart & soul of a football club" then you wouldn't be picking one of 8 clubs (or in reality, the biggest who'll have you)

You'd be doing what FCUM did, starting your own because you where disillusioned with the game. Or picking because of history or because they were most in need.

Like one of the posters said, why not rescue a club who has no real hope, like Gt Harwood FC. That would show you to be REAL fans of the beautiful game. Not nomads with an opportunity to "grab" a club & make it your own.

You talk very well & argue your case with passion BUT you really do not understand the impact you will have on a League Clubs current regime

Halifax I can understand, they seem as inpassionate (?) a set of fans as I have seen............... They probably won't realise whats going on. Although they do like to throw stones at anything from outside the village

shakermaker 26-09-2007 22:06

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content...rd_150x180.jpg

MFC? Taking Over? Get them Edward!

doheochai 26-09-2007 22:11

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 474622)
If you or your fellow members did understand the real meaning of "heart & soul of a football club" then you wouldn't be picking one of 8 clubs (or in reality, the biggest who'll have you)

You'd be doing what FCUM did, starting your own because you where disillusioned with the game. Or picking because of history or because they were most in need.

(1) if we were to start a club the question I would have is where? No matter where MFC went it would be stepping on someone's toes.
(2) I would like to see MFC picking a club with history and tradition and that was in serious trouble (i.e would fold without MFC intervention) but even with the 'potential' finance MFC could bring, many clubs are in too big trouble for MFC to help.
For the MFC takeover team to purchase a club - it needs to have a debt that we can manage and stabilise - it needs to have potential, either for growth or a return to it's former position (having dropped because of various difficulties) - it needs to own or have access to a ground that isn't owned by an individual who will crank up the rent - and it needs to be a club where MFC can have an impact and demonstrate that football fans can run a club, involve a community and not need the billionaires to make progress.

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You talk very well & argue your case with passion BUT you really do not understand the impact you will have on a League Clubs current regime
The members of MFC know exactly the impact we can have, not just on a club, but on football as a whole. If MFC is successful it has the potential to grow and develop a football club with the fans as the 'heart and soul' of the club - not the men with money - and to place football supporters at the forefront of the game of football for the first time in one hundred years. And this is what I want to see happening. Football is a game for fans - and fans should run their game. As I said before - time will tell if it works - but if it does then every fan in the country (if not the world) will be better because of it.

shakermaker 26-09-2007 22:37

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Fans who don't genuinely care about the club (ie actually supporting it in the first place - aside from their membership fee) are NOT fans at all, and would be as soul-less to the club they 'buy' as you make out the owners of other football clubs to be.

carpon 26-09-2007 22:41

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474502)
Now to address the real comments -

Football fans have had to sit by and watch their clubs (in most cases) being driven into debt by owners who couldn't care less about the club they own and what happens to it or the supporters.

Funny,but I can't seem to remember MFC showing any interest in Boston or even Scarborough:confused:

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474502)
The interest that some MFC members have in Accrington Stanley is not 'fake' interest. It's a genuine interest in helping any football club that we can and that need our help.

Again, Surely the two clubs mentioned earlier would be better alternatives??

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474502)
As I said before I do not think that MFC will become the new owners of Stanley. The ownership, board, staff and fans at Stanley have done a magnificant job over the past period. I personally wouldn't want to disrupt this situation. I sincerely hope that Stanley continues to develop,

I am sure the majority of Stanley fans on this forum echo your sentiments.:)

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474502)
I want MFC to purchase a club that is in serious need of the help we can provide (both financial and organisational) that has fans in desperate need of a new situation and that has an owner who doesn't give tuppence about the club.

In that case, instead of sniffing around clubs which,in all honesty don't welcome the unwanted advances of MFC,why not approach one of the non league clubs who ARE desperate for financial intervention?? If MFC did take over a league side it would be a similiar scenario to the "M.K. Dons" farce. And before you say the M.K situation is a shining beacon,think about the TRUE Wimbledon fans who have had their club hijacked/stolen from them !!:confused:

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474502)
The members of MFC are very confident that we can make a positive contribution to a club and to football in general - here's hoping time will prove us correct.

Whilst I'd wish you the best of luck in your "quest", I can only see this ridiculous concept being doomed to fail. The pity is that a club will be ruined in the process. And I'm sure all A.S.F.C. supporters hope that we are not part of that equation!:o

Willie Miller 26-09-2007 22:45

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You really are pickled...........

Money is the very thing that you argue has ruined football. Yet you harp on about how much money you can invest.............

You need to get your argument straight fella, its either that or end up having your argument pulled apart.

One big wig or 50,000 wanabee big wigs, it don't really matter if you ain't passionate about the club to start with

Can you not see that?

doheochai 26-09-2007 22:59

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Originally Posted by carpon (Post 474640)
Funny,but I can't seem to remember MFC showing any interest in Boston or even Scarborough:confused:

Again, Surely the two clubs mentioned earlier would be better alternatives??

I agree - although given the financial implications of both - I don't think even MFC could solve the problem.

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In that case, instead of sniffing around clubs which,in all honesty don't welcome the unwanted advances of MFC,why not approach one of the non league clubs who ARE desperate for financial intervention??
Not sniffing around here at all and not trying to make advances (as I said I don't think that MFC should try and buy AS) - just trying to correct mis-conceptions

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If MFC did take over a league side it would be a similiar scenario to the "M.K. Dons" farce. And before you say the M.K situation is a shining beacon,think about the TRUE Wimbledon fans who have had their club hijacked/stolen from them !!:confused:
Fundementally different to MK Dons - MFC doesn't want to root up a club and move it - doesn't want to change and re-name it - does want to include in the running of the club the very fans who have been shafted by the MK Dons fiasco. Practically every member of MFC (all 25,000-30,000) wouldn't touch MK Dons with a barge pole - why - because we are all football fans and we know the implications of what happened to Wimbledon.

doheochai 26-09-2007 23:01

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 474641)
You really are pickled...........

Willie - please read the posts - you will see they are consistant on the topic of money.

Willie Miller 26-09-2007 23:13

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 474647)
Willie - please read the posts - you will see they are consistant on the topic of money.

I have & if thats all you can bring to the party then big bloody deal. I am an idealist & the profit & loss sheet of a football club is something I give 2 hoots about. As football fans in the 70's & 80's wouldn't have.

Even if you can't leave us in debt you could just ruin our saturdays & when you've gone? What then? No debt but a souless club with the characters who were there before you.......... gone forever I would suggest!

Do you get it now?

BigGibbo 27-09-2007 01:20

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Originally Posted by melonhigh (Post 474474)
I could possibly, just possibly, have been tempted to risk £35 with MyFC, but having read the above it's blatantly obvious that it involves morons and no brainers. Think I'll save my money and buy some extra pies at the next home game. What rubbish!!!

I don't think so im a member of Myfc & most the people ive spoke to are sound & pretty level headed its worth a punt for 35 quid once you've paid you get to go to the forums then you can make your own mind up.
I personally would be chuffed if the powers that be took charge of Accrington i think you could go places down not being one of them.
Is anyone on here not against the idea?

doheochai 27-09-2007 09:12

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Originally Posted by Willie Miller (Post 474651)
I have & if thats all you can bring to the party then big bloody deal. I am an idealist & the profit & loss sheet of a football club is something I give 2 hoots about. As football fans in the 70's & 80's wouldn't have.

Sorry to say Wille - if this is your interpretation of my comments - then you haven't really read them. While I have pointed out that MFC would bring extra funding to a club - this is not the most important impact by a long shoot. MFC is about putting fans in control - fans worldwide - fans locally and the local community.

I suggest that you read my comments again - maybe with a little bit more of an open mind.

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Even if you can't leave us in debt you could just ruin our saturdays & when you've gone? What then? No debt but a souless club with the characters who were there before you.......... gone forever I would suggest!
How would the members of MFC ruin your Saturdays?
- I think if/when MFC buys a club football fans all over England and further afield will be surprised at the genuine impact the members of MFC will have. Like I said, time will tell - all I ask for is an open mind to something that can actually change football positively for the fans of a club and for all fans.

Haggis316 27-09-2007 12:08

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This snippet was on their forum:

"Members - please stop posting unnecessary comments on club ...
The following was posted by a member of MFC on the Accrington Stanley messageboard - now from the stuff he has posted on here I am surprised by this intervention (particularly given the fact that he has spoken about the need to have the ...
MyFootballClub forums - http://members.myfootballclub.co.uk/forum "

Sorry its incomplete but we can get the gist.

Chimer 27-09-2007 17:50

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Originally Posted by BigGibbo (Post 474655)
Is anyone on here not against the idea?

As far as I can tell, only the MFC "activists" who weren't on here before this thread started. A few of us were open-minded to start with but have realised the idea is, at best, daft. I've always thought it was a simple scam, and have seen nothing to change my mind.

Bagpuss 27-09-2007 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimer (Post 474768)
A few of us were open-minded to start with but have realised the idea is, at best, daft. I've always thought it was a simple scam, and have seen nothing to change my mind.

I was one of those and after weighing up the options I don't think it's a scam I just think Stanley are not the right club to pick for this venture.

Arithon 28-09-2007 11:55

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I'm a member of MYFC and was born in Nelson Lancs, have a cousin who is a Stanley fan and we have both been to a few games in the past, so I hope you won't regard me as too much of an intruder.

Bagpuss may be right and Accrington isn't the right club for us though I have to admit it would be my choice. I certainly wouldn't want to take on a club where we didn't have the support of the local fans and this is the view of MOST MYFC members. It would be interesting to find out what the view of most Accrington fans is, while I respect all the views expressed on this forum, it is only a few people. I went to the game against Grimsby (4-1 eh Obviously I'm a lucky mascot :) ) and the people I spoke to seemed to have quite an open mind about our project.

What concerns me is this, and I don't think it can be ignored. Forget MYFC for a minute, but how do you think the club will survive in the long term if only 120 season tickets are purchased? I was quite surprised. i would have thought with Stanley getting back into the league, bearing in mind its history and everything, there would have been far more interest locally in the club than there actually is. Has anyone got an explanation for the low number sold?

maccawozzagod 28-09-2007 14:18

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Originally Posted by Arithon (Post 475012)
but how do you think the club will survive in the long term if only 120 season tickets are purchased? ....... Has anyone got an explanation for the low number sold?



plus 120 odd concessions plus over 250 Junior Reds (free entry) and all of these numbers have risen since the 'article' went to press. It's not as bad as it sounded. Also our board have never really included gates into their budgets (has been said numerous times over numerous seasons so I would imagine this season to be no different) s they cannot be relied on.

The 'article' only said that if we wanted to push on from this league we would need further investment as crowds were crap. If we just want to stay here for a while, consolidate, learn to walk before we can run etc then our present crowds/income can manage that. How competitive we can be remains to be seen. Don't believe all that you read int'papers1

Arithon 28-09-2007 14:31

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 475035)
Don't believe all that you read int'papers1

I don't, I thought i got it from a direct quote from Mr Whalley. I'm glad that things are improving and the freebies for the kids sounds a great idea. At least the club is relatively debt free, which not all clubs can claim.

After watching the grimsby match I'm also surprised that the results have been poor. Hopefully that wasn't just a blip. I'm hoping to get to the Bury match (it's a bit of a trek (130 miles each way)so I'll get another chance to gauge the form. thanks for the update.

Redash 28-09-2007 16:25

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I often get asked, “Who’s your team” I answer, “Accrington Stanley”, the reply is always the same “who are they” I always answer that question with “The best club in the whole f***ing world” as there is no answer to that, we can start to talk football in a relaxed way, and generally indulge in some good banter.

If MFC were to be involved with The Stanley, I would get laughed at, nobody would be able to have proper football conversations nor indeed, friendly banter. Everything would be a joke, Thats why I’ll never support such a thing as Myfootballclub.

Arithon 28-09-2007 18:20

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Originally Posted by Redash (Post 475078)

If MFC were to be involved with The Stanley, I would get laughed at

My local team is Leicester City and I get laughed at regardless of MYFC involvement. I'm not sure they would laugh at you Redash, and if they did they wouldn't for long. I spoke to about a dozen Accrington fans before and after the Grimsby game and no one laughed, most were quite positive and asked a lot of questions about how it all works.

BedsRed 13-11-2007 10:57

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First time post, but I'm so happy these myfc numpties have left our club alone, I can't help myself. Apparantly they're buying Gravesend & Northfleet/Ebbsfleet. We're well rid...

lancsdave 13-11-2007 11:08

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Should be interesting when the grounds they visit get a request to provide 53,000 seats in the directors box :rofl38:

BedsRed 13-11-2007 11:48

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Perhaps they're already planning for a Champions League place? :rolleyes:
alwaystouchout.com - Ebbsfleet International

carpon 13-11-2007 12:33

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Originally Posted by BedsRed (Post 492930)
First time post, but I'm so happy these myfc numpties have left our club alone, I can't help myself. Apparantly they're buying Gravesend & Northfleet/Ebbsfleet. We're well rid...

Quite eloquently put ! And so much for the claims of 50,000 members ! a little matter of 30K out on that. Anyway best of luck to em'......the genuine Ebbsfleet fans that is. I think they'll need it.:D

Bazf 13-11-2007 13:56

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Well that will be the end of Ebbsfleet in a couple of years.


“How will the team be picked?”

From FAQ
The Head Coach will brief members. This will include a review of the previous match, reports from the training ground and views on the forthcoming opposition. He will also give his thoughts on players, their form and fitness, as well as possible selections and tactics.

Members will then submit their preferred 11, formation and tactics. A database will calculate the most popular choice. This will be handed to The Head Coach to instigate.

All player will be voted on before they are bought/offered a contract.

Lets buy player A
Lets buy player B
Lets buy player C.
Have you seen them play much then?
Player A is a young up and coming player I've seen a few times at a few games.
I saw player C on youtube! He scored a well good goal innit. Look at this link he hits it well hard.
Oh right.
Results: Player A 2,003 votes.
Player C - 33,000 votes.

He wins. Congratulations. You have a YouTube player

Nickelson 13-11-2007 15:07

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Haha good one Bazf!

I really hope it works out for them even if they only get into the FL.

BedsRed 13-11-2007 15:31

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Originally Posted by Bazf (Post 492983)
All player will be voted on before they are bought/offered a contract.

Lets buy player A
Lets buy player B
Lets buy player C.
Have you seen them play much then?
Player A is a young up and coming player I've seen a few times at a few games.
I saw player C on youtube! He scored a well good goal innit. Look at this link he hits it well hard.
Oh right.
Results: Player A 2,003 votes.
Player C - 33,000 votes.

He wins. Congratulations. You have a YouTube player

Wonder how many of us would have to join to shift Evil?

JEFF 13-11-2007 15:41

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Originally Posted by BedsRed (Post 493010)
Wonder how many of us would have to join to shift Evil?

What do you mean by 'shift Evil' ?

Bagpuss 13-11-2007 17:09

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Originally Posted by BedsRed (Post 493010)
Wonder how many of us would have to join to shift Evil?

Lets start by getting him on to You Tube then we could join the MFC forum and recommend that a star is available to buy from Accy Stanley.:)

Unfortunatly when they see him on You Tube that would be the end of our chances of getting rid.:(

Bazf 14-11-2007 18:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 493178)
Lets start by getting him on to You Tube then we could join the MFC forum and recommend that a star is available to buy from Accy Stanley.:)

Unfortunatly when they see him on You Tube that would be the end of our chances of getting rid.:(

With a bit of photoshopping and good editing you could make him look a few stones lighter and twice as fast.:)

Oggy 14-11-2007 21:50

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Originally Posted by Bazf (Post 493637)
With a bit of photoshopping and good editing you could make him look a few stones lighter and twice as fast.:)

How do I sign up? :o (Actually might just start coming to OSC meetings very early)

tpcfc 10-12-2007 14:16

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At the risk of being accused of self promotion, a viable pick the team alternative is The People's Club. Fantasy Football on Steroids. - just over 1,000 signed up so far

lancsdave 10-12-2007 15:08

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Originally Posted by tpcfc (Post 502388)
At the risk of being accused of self promotion, a viable pick the team alternative is The People's Club. Fantasy Football on Steroids. - just over 1,000 signed up so far


Risk of self promotion ? I'd say no risk it's clear cut self promotion.

doheochai 23-01-2008 16:49

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Just to update anyone who is interested -

MyFootballClub members approve takeover of Ebbsfleet United

MyFootballClub members have voted overwhelmingly to purchase a 75% stake in Ebbsfleet United football club.

As of 12.00pm (UK time) on 23 January, MyFootballClub had 27,278 members. The results of the two votes at this deadline are as follows:

18,112 members voted on whether to approve the deal to takeover Ebbsfleet United FC. Of those that voted, 95.89%, or 17,368 members, are in favour.

And 17,891 members voted on whether to enable Liam Daish to carry out any plans he has for the January transfer window. Of those that voted, 95.86%, or 17,152 members, are in favour.

Within the next two weeks we will begin the process of electing the Trust Board and members will also get to decide whether or not to employ a new kit manufacturer for the 2008/2009 season.

Redash 02-05-2010 12:07

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I see that was a massive success.


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