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Visit this site and lets get stanley bought and to the premiership. You pick the team, signings, where money is spent, what developments are made on and off the pitch etc. Its basically taking fantasy football or computer simulation management games to the ultimate level. 50,000 members across the world pay 35 pounds membership for the fund to take over equalling 1.75 million to purchase a club and its almost certain it will be a lower league club that can build for the future. Stanley currently lie 3rd behind cambridge in 2nd and leeds united in 1st although as previously stated its likley to be a LOWER league club. Get voting.:) myfootballclub

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you might want to take a look here Jesus

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30618

11 threads down from this one at the mo ;)

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This subject is already covered in another post:-

For the Whalley Out Brigade, started by Bradshawboy!

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worth a try:D i think its a go idea

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have you spent your £35 yet?

and I think that voting on team selection is a stupid idea. The webstie says that the manager will brief the website on his ideas, scouting reports etc but the vote would take away his ability to make a last minute decision if they change their expected team sheet. And what about substitutions? do we all need laptops (we'd need a bigger stand) to keep in touch with the bench.

Some parts of it sound okay, but how does it differ from a standard share issue. Maybe ASFC could stick a thousand shares up for grabs and do some form of it in principle only?

It wont get my money but no doubt 50000 will be easily parted from their money and end up Partick Thistle or Dunoogan!

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Eric would surely have to want to sell the club , and I don't think that he would agree to a tinpot scheme like this . He won't even sell to a "bone fide"
businessman like Mr Kahn .

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:eek: Some of you seem to be taking this seriously !

It's a scam, keep your money in your pocket or give it to the roo fund.

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I think it will make the news headlines eventually. Can't beleive people would even consider giving them money:eek:

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it has made the news! its on GMTV on monday morning (?), its been all over the BBC websites as well, and the Lancs Telegraph. Then again its not been on the fishy site so maybe its not true yet :D

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Oooooooooo.... you're on thin ice there. :D

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skating blade invented - whoosh - I'm on my r s now!

:Banane49:

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Picking the team etc would be a step too far. But if we need a roof for 500,000 then these 50,000 people who are probably willing to stick a tenner in now and again are going to provide it. if We need 100,000 to sign whoever then its 2 quid each. There are positives to a club that dont have two pennies to rub together. I will pay 35 quid if stanley is the team chosen. It says that its unlikely the manager will be opposed on team selection etc and that there will still be chairman, current board and directors to run the club.

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You are wasting your time . The club is not for sale , and that's that .

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Think I've heard that statement before:mad: If there is shares to be had you can't stop it.Unless your from USA or Russia:mad:

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OK , I'll rephrase that . I would be extremly surprised if Eric were to sell his club .

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why would someone who has hardly any money to put into a football club turn down the chance of lucrative investment. Biting your nose off to spite your face.

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so if I come to your house and see that it needs 20 grand spending on it to bring it up to scratch, but you haven't got the money and I have ... should you sell it to me?

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if you offer twice the value ill bite your hand off

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No use trying to make him see sense Rob.

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STILL 3rd and over 22,000 registrations.

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21,999 if you exclude [email protected].

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I think some of you are working under some gross misunderstandings of what MyFootballClub is and what it's designed to be.

First, I am a paid-up member of MyFC, and not in any way a member of the site's management. Why was I willing to spend my 35? MyFootballClub Society Ltd is registered with the Financial Services Authority. An awfully public way to go for a scam, not to mention costly to set up. And given all the publicity MyFC is getting? It's not a scam. In addition, one of the country's top legal firms is head of the negotiating team. Four clubs, possibly five after today, have already contacted MyFC to enter into negotiations. Do you seriously think that would be the case if they had any doubts as to the legality of the enterprise?

Whether the mechanism within MyFC for picking the weekly XI and setting tactics will work or not remains to be seen. But the whole idea is based on James Surowiecki's book THE WISDOM OF THE CROWDS, which demonstrates again and again that large groups of people can come together and make decisions that are as good or better than those made by "experts."

As for the nay-sayers who think MyFC members are hoping for a quick profit, once again, that's not how the society works. MyFC is a not-for-profit society. If the members ever decide to sell (and without a profit motive to do so, why would they?), all profits go to a similar enterprise or to charity. The individual members can in no way profit from this enterprise.

Hard as it may be for some people to believe, MyFC is what it claims to be...a group of football fans coming together to return at least one club into the hands of fans rather than rich businessmen. Whether that club turns out to be Stanley or some other club, we won't know for a while. But I personally hope it's a club like Stanley -- proud tradition, little to no debt -- but a club that needs both cash and new supporters if it's ever to grow, or even remain in the league. With MyFC behind it, whichever club we buy will have an immediate and substantial cash infusion and fan increase. And what is best is that we hope the current loyal supporters of that club join us and give us their experience and insight into the team's history and potential.

Feel free to scoff if you will, but remember how loudly you scoffed when we do buy a club and it starts to flourish.

Feel free to email me if you have serious questions. I'm happy to respond. If you just want to send me attacks, I have a thick skin. Either way, I hope you'll take a few minutes to understand what MyFC really is, rather than simply dismissing it out of hand without bothering to understand it first.

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Idiot!



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What is the point of making an investment when you know going into it there is no chance of profit? Making a donation to a beloved institution is one thing but giving money away to a party "to be named later" while assuming responsiblity for further obligation is nothing short of absurd and wasteful.

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That's the kind of reasonable response I was hoping for. Thanks for the penetrating insight. :)

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It's not a financial investment, per se. It's essentially a membership fee each year that helps support the club's expansion. The whole point behind MyFC is not to make a profit for the owners, but to help a club reach its potential. And no one is locked in. If after a year, you think it's a waste of time and money, you walk away. Many of the members, however, signed up for one year, then after spending some time on the boards, have already extended their memberships for a second or third year.

And no one is assuming any future obligation. The trust is a limited liability society. The individual members are only liable to "lose" the 35 pounds they've invested.

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Halifax Town HAVE contacted myfootballclub on the possibility of a takeover.

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Don't worry that's the usual sort of drivel she posts.

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on the face of it I can see the pluspoints behind the scheme, and also think that a club like Stanley WOULD flourish under it, however having 50,000 owners sounds like a logistical nightmare.

But can you imagine the potential of all those people wanting to buy a bit of merchandise? or at least a programme sent by mail order every game?

Or trying to get a ticket for the next match? would they become more important than season ticket holders if it came to a big cup game? Wembley play-offs final and we get 30000 tickets, then all of a sudden 50000 'owners' clamour for a ticket whilst 1500 die hards can't get anywhere near.

I suspect it would be fun for a while watching the club get a massive influx of new money, but what happens a year down the line? what happens if we start to pay massive wages that we can't afford if buy-the-club moves on?

And would the Sportsbar have to be renamed the buy-a-club, Buy-the-House Lounge?




If this move comes anywhere near us I think the OSC should be increasing members ten-fold in order to fight it.

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i see the points macca that you haved made and they are valid. Only the 1500 die hard fans id say more like 800 recently.

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I can't log on to their site but the tip bits I have seen from posts lately suggest Halifax is not so much in their plans and its drifting towards Stanley

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i get the feeling there after Stanley. But the halifax board have contacted them to say they would be interested.

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Stanley fit the profile perfectly and would be the best 'value' for money club around. And also the most marketable if they are looking for a club to sustain itself. £35 each and 50000 members gives £1.75M. Would Eric accept a million? then £750k is a decent initial investment until th efolowing year when another £1.75M gets pumped in.

Dangerous game though

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Obviously, only a small percentage of MyFC members would live close enough to attend home matches regularly, but that would be an increase in regular attendance. And the club would undoubtedly get a huge boost of support on away matches as members who live throughout England attend the matches nearest them.

You're right that there will be a huge boost to merchandise sales. The members are aching already to starting buying replica jerseys.

But the vast majority of members are very aware that whatever club we buy will already have a club culture and traditions. We're not anxious to change any of those -- no renaming the pub, no renaming the ground, no changing the colors and kit. We're just looking forward to adding ourselves to the committed fans already supporting the club. As I mentioned, our first hope is that all the loyal fans of the club we purchase will immediately join MyFC so that we can profit from their experience and insights to the club. It's a pretty cheap way of getting a say in how your own club will be managed.

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I can't speak for the team doing the negotiations with the clubs (including Halifax) that have contacted MyFC. Obviously, the other clubs have requested anonymity during the negotiations and so the MyFC members don't even know which clubs they are.

But you're right that the annual cash infusion from MyFC membership is one of the best aspects for the purchased club. It will allow the club to bolster infrastructure, work with a youth academy, whatever the members see as the best priority for making the club grow. The top priority behind every MyFC decision is what's in the best interests of making the club prosper and move up the leagues.

The danger, and I'm the first to admit it, is if we lose membership after the first year. That doesn't mean the death penalty to the club; it just means that the additional cash infusion each year is smaller than we'd like. But keep in mind also that we have no cap on our membership numbers. We hope the success of the project brings in far more than 50,000 total members, which of course, means more money for the club.

Are the buy-out team targeting Stanley? I have no idea. But the club's a very popular one with our members right now. The only detractor I've read members expressing is the competition for supporters in the region. I personally think that's a potential problem for virtually any club in League 2 or the Conference. I don't see it as a major stumbling block.

Again, I don't speak for the management team of MyFC. I'm just one member who happens to think Stanley would be a perfect fit for our goals and I hope, yours as well. And I wanted to correct a few misconceptions regarding what MyFC really is and what our intentions are. We're not the baggy monster some in the press want you to believe. We're just football fans who wish to be far more involved than any club has ever allowed in the past. In that regard, we plan to make history.

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It's only £1.375 million. I've just taken a quick look at their website. £27.50 of each £35.00 is put towards purchase of the club, the other £7.50 goes towards running/administration costs of the MyFootballClub trust and website.
The favourite target for aquisition is currently Leeds United, Stanley are fifth on the list.

Re: Myfootballclub
 

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.... and if Buy-the-club get bored and have the 70% majority that says sell up? who are the idiots left with inflated wage bills they may not be able to service?

.... and if Buy-the-club make a mess of their "experiment" (that journo's words what conceived the idea) who are the idiots that will be left trying to save a club that has been sent to rack and ruin?

The idea has a lot of merit but nobody will ever know if it works until it has worked, or failed. The benefits are huge - but the pitfalls are also as big.

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Got it in a nutshell. It's just too much of a gamble to take with something that means so much to us lot on here.

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I don't think I would like 50,000 supporters of other clubs running the club I support either

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Hi - I am also a member of MyFootballClub - don't want to go into a long post about MFC but felt the need to correct a couple of statements about MFC

Can't happen - the rules of MFC prohibit the club from borrowing money - any club MFC would purchase has to be run on a break-even basis. Members of MFC are acutely aware that players cannot be signed up to large multi-year contracts because of the potential impact on a club if MFC suffered a fall in membership in year 2 or subsequent years.

In fact for the club the pitfalls are not that big. The worst case scenario is that if MFC fails the club will be sold - probably at a nominal fee to a local supporters trust. In the meantime a club like AS would have money invested in the ground, new players, a youth academy etc.

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Many (like me) would become ardent supporters of AS. Others would work in the best interests of the club and support it as their number 2. MFC members want this to work. The objective is to give football back to the fans. For too long individuals have used football clubs and football fans as their personal playthings. MFC wants to change this.

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This has actually been discussed on the MFC forums and the consensus was that existing local fans (season ticket holders etc) would and should get priority for tickets

Answered above

Again this has been discussed extensively on MFC forums and members are conscious of the bneed to maintain the existing traditions of the club. There would be not intention of changing the name of the ground (or parts of it), the crest, the club colours etc.

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No disrespect but I find that strange. The growth of myfc has been based on promoting itself through foottball forums such as this. That would suggest most members already have a first club. Do you not already support a club ?

I'd like to see where peoples loyalties lie. What happens when the club bought by myfc of which you have a 'best interest' are about to relegate your number 1 club in a 6 pointer ? Long shot this may be, but it could happen.

I'm afraid I'm one of the sceptical ones about all this.

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Actually I don't - most do but not all

remember there are currently about 25,000 paid up members - even if a couple of hundred wanted to, they couldn't scupper the club from such a minority position. Even with this, the regular comment made by people in this situation has been 'operate in the best interests of the club and root for the team I support in this one game'. The over-riding intent by MFC members is to make the project succeed and that can only be done by working in the best interests of the club.

Scepticism is healthy.

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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 468497) Actually I don't - most do but not all remember there are currently about 25,000 paid up members - even if a couple of hundred wanted to, they couldn't scupper the club from such a minority position. Even with this, the regular comment made by people in this situation has been 'operate in the best interests of the club and root for the team I support in this one game'. The over-riding intent by MFC members is to make the project succeed and that can only be done by working in the best interests of the club. Scepticism is healthy.

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I truly hope these MyFC people come nowhere near Accrington Stanley Football Club.
I for one hold this club far too dearly to allow it to be experimented on in such a way.
I'm sorry if I offend any MyFC members as I do not intend to in the slightest; but all advantages considered your organisation appears to me like an over-eager child attempting to take a stand in a man's game.
If you lot really want to reaffirm the fans' stance within the beautiful game, then I would suggest that your organisation takes it's money and uses it to form a new club and see it rise through the football pyramid so that you may support it with full heart.
Please don't go hijacking an existing club such as this, which has rich history and real fans, not ones that just want their yearly membership fee's worth.

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I can't help but find myself in wholehearted agreement with shakermaker on this issue. From the moment I heard about this group and their intentions I felt there was something fundamentally wrong with the situation. After giving it probably more thought than it deserves, I have come up with the reason it bothers me so much.

Yes, we all want to see our club progress on the pitch and climb the leagues. Yes, we want to be proud of our facilities. Yes, we want to provide opportunities for future players through the Youth Academy and soccer schools. Yes, we want to see the club become a major marketing force in and around Accrington and beyond.

The question that begs to be asked is this -- How are we going to accomplish these goals? Do we want the instant fix these people promise or do we want to get down and dirty and slog through the muck and fight to make this club what we know it can be?

Those of you who run a business or who have put time and effort into a charitable effort know what I am talking about. Those of you who watched the doors close on Peel Park and suffered through the empty years will understand what makes this so objectionable to me.

These people are professing the desire to "give football back to the fans" but when all is said and done, they will have accomplished just the opposite. They will be taking away the things that make a football club more than just another business enterprise.

The struggles we go through as supporters of this great club are what give life and value to the club. The pride and joy we felt at winning the Conference didn't stem entirely from the results on the pitch. We celebrated our success with such fervor because of the fight and struggle it required. They can come in and drop their loads of cash and improve the facilities and sell more shirts and programs but it won't be the same as what it could be.

So, in the end, I say, "Go away and don't look back." Sure, we're going to struggle and fight but when we do succeed, it will be for the right reasons and it will be all the sweeter.

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I don't see your first scenario as likely. Bored members simply won't renew while new ones will be appearing at the same time. The total number of members will aways be in flux. But the bored members will not suddenly persuade 75% of all members to sell; they'll simply not renew and leave the trust.

Your second scenario is a valid concern, and no one--Stanley supporter or MyFC member--wants to see the club ruined. But I obviously believe this would work well or I wouldn't have subscribed myself.

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I appreciate reading the thoughtful and calm responses to my posts (and others) of late. Skepticism and debate are healthy, and as I said earlier, I certainly don't speak for the management team that is carrying out whatever negotiations are under way. For all we know, there's been no contact between Stanley and MyFC.

But as an admitted outsider, my first thought when I began to learn about your club is that it's a proud club with a long history, but no one is supporting it. Let's face it, just over 100 season tickets sold? That's not exactly a groundswell of local support.

If -- and I realize it's still a huge IF now -- MyFC were to buy Stanley, what changes except for a huge influx of new supporters and cash to the team? Most of the members are going to vote based on the head coach's recommendations regarding team selection, so the only real difference is that now there are a lot of owners instead of one. Our goals are the same as yours--the success of the club. We're able to bring in a regular cash infusion to help the club grow.

My personal belief is that too much emphasis is being placed on the idea that the members will be picking the starting lineup. It's true...we will vote on those decisions. But I seriously doubt if our collective choices would be far different from what any traditional manager would have chosen. The actual range of choices isn't that broad to begin with. There are only so many realistic combinations of players on one squad. And with injuries and fitness issues, I suspect our lineups would be the same as another manager would choose the vast majority of the time.

All that said, I completely understand your reservations and concerns. I came on this board because I'm interested in knowing more about Stanley and I wanted to have the opportunity to address some of the misconceptions about MyFC. I hope we can continue to discuss the possibilities the way we've begun.

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Herein lies the problem, 25-50 thousand people picking the starting 11 and subs.

• How long will it take to vote and have the votes counted?

• How will you be able to sort out tactics one hour before the game, when you first see the opposition team sheet?

• What safeguards do you have in relation to the opposition management having shares in the club? (Are there not rules about opposition management influencing team selections and tactics?)

• What about the stick of being called FRANCHISE FC?

Whilst the Idea is sound, the practicality is absurd, and unworkable.
The only way I can see, to make it work, is to just have your members as share holders with only an opinion at the AGM, and a management team and board of directors to oversee the club.

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MFC will not be an instant fix. It will take time and effort to develop any club that MFC buys. It will take time and effort to involve and include the current supporter base of the club and it will take time and effort to preserve the basis and traditions of the club.

Football in England has changed quite dramatically over the past 15-20 years. Gone are the days when the likes of Derby, Burnley, Ipswich or Nottm Forest could be champions of England. The gap between rich and poor/ big and small clubs has widened into a chasim.

Even the continued existance of clubs is dependent on the continued input of investors to keep the club afloat (the recent example of Halifax). MFC is not an instant fix. In the first year all funds will go to the purchase of the club, clearing debts and stabilising the club. The second or subsequent years offer the potential for extra funds to be available but there are many situations that could develop to inhibit the impact of the funding. It will take time and effort. Nobody in MFC is interested in changing a club. For MFC the intent is to allow a club to develop organically without been inhibited by the lack of funding that is afflicting so many of the lower league clubs that don't have someone to come in and throw 4 or 5 million pounds at the problem (e.g. Peterborough).

How will we achieve the opposite? How will actually giving the fans a say in the running of a club turn it into a business enterprise rather than a football club? How will involving existing fans in the running of the club be negative?

Let me pose it this way - how many football clubs in England are owned and run by some rich individual who uses it as a plaything and then when he gets fed up - shafts the club and buggers off leaving a trail of disaster in his wake?

The cash, shirts, programmes are a minor part of what MFC is trying to do. Nothing is static - life changes - every situation has to progress or go backwards - it cannot stay the same. Some people don't like change, but change is inevitable. The question to consider is - How will that change be managed.

The football fans who are members of MFC acknowledge and recognise this sentiment - the problem is that unless there is a steady inflow of finance into any club then the club will be in severe difficulty. Remember there are only two clubs in England that consistantly show a profit. Now consider where the money comes from - is it better that it comes from an individual with dubious motives or from a large group of fans who want to promote, protect and develop the club without any hidden agenda?

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I am open to suggestions - where?

The people who are members of MFC are real fans - all of them. No one wants to hijack anything - we want to buy a club that needs assistance and develop the club with old and new fans working hand-in-hand together.

No matter where MFC goes it will be stepping on some people's toes. This includes any place where we could start a new club.

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Let me say initially that I am in favour of a manager deciding the team etc. There has been, and continues to be a long and detailed discussion about this on MFC forums. However, if the majority decide to go this route I will actively participate - and if it doesn't work then MFC will change the process.

The logistics are actually not a problem. The votes will be made and counted within a short period of time over the internet.
Again this is one of the problems that has been discussed among MFC members - the suggestion is that we set-up our team to play the way we want them and let the oppsotition play they want to - and the coach will have the authority to alter the formation if necessary. Same thing would apply to subs.
To be honest this will not be a problem - the only way that a club could influence tactics is if they stump up £35 memebrship for maybe 10,000 members and then have several hundred people to operate the online voting mechanism - What club in League 2 or the Conference has that kind of money and those numbers of people to throw away on the off chance of influencing the outcome of the match.
We are not franchise fc - because we don't want to up-root any club and move it from a to b (like the MK Dons). We want to buy a club, work with existing supporters and the local community to develop the club in a way that involves as many people as possible.

Time will tell.

Re: Myfootballclub
 

You will get stick from inception until the day it dies. That club will forever have the stigma of having bought the title etc (not that it is guaranteed).


Theonly fun part of it if Stanley got involved would be to swamp bloody confguide every night and just not let the buggers talk about anything ..... and then every other board they move to.


... and would we gain 50 000 new fans or gain 250 000 new haters?

Re: Myfootballclub
 

It appears as though you have missed my point entirely. You and your 50,000 fellow investors are every bit the faceless entity that an investment bank would be. You won't be riding the coaches to the away games. You won't be selling programs on matchdays. You won't be collecting money for the 50/50 drawings. You won't be showing up at the FES to help paint the railings on the terraces. You won't be singing with the Ultras and raising the new roof with passion and pride and the celebration of all things Stanley.

You'll be logging into a website to help fulfill some lost childhood dream of running a football club. You'll be writing a check and looking at results on Teletext. You'll be patting yourself on the back for saving some poor miserable club from its struggling existence without having the foresight to understand that you are gutting the very spirit that made the club worth loving and supporting.

Now, I will grant you there is one major difference between an investment banker and your group -- most investment bankers are smart enough to know what they don't know and allow the people with the knowledge and experience to operate the ventures they undertake.

Your group is nothing more than a fantasy football league run amok in the real world.

Re: Myfootballclub
 

It's not unworkable at all. There are clear deadlines for voting on lineup decisions. The votes are cast via the website but the results are not announced until one hour before the game--the same time team sheets are announced. Obviously, our head coach knows the results before then to finish his preparations with the squad. Once the vote is in, however, the head coach takes over and during the match has the responsibility for managing adjustments to strategy and substitutes.

It doesn't matter if opposition clubs have access to our site as members. The results of the votes don't appear for us until they go public with the team sheets anyway. There won't be any advantage for them, and with so many members, no one is going to be able to put together a sabotage vote. It's just not possible given the numbers.

Re: Myfootballclub
 

That's where I think you're exactly wrong. Obviously not all the members will be active locally for geographical reasons. But a good number of them will become as loyal a supporter as anyone already on this message board. And the club's support at away games will explode in size.

As it stands now, you only have a couple hundred "loyal" supporters now. I find it hard to fathom that you'd object to new ones who will be as committed or more so than many of the current supporters, if for no other reason than they will have a feeling of ownership to go with it.

Re: Myfootballclub
 

okay then in a nutshell for you



we'd rather earn success

Re: Myfootballclub
 

Stanley are lacking investment and if we're being honest, if we're going to prosper (or survive) at the level we're at, we need it pretty fast.

It's ok being all idealist, but somebody putting cash into the club has got to be a good thing. There are some technicalities of course, but I honestly don't see what Stanley would have to lose by engaging with this venture.

Re: Myfootballclub
 

If you haven't got it by now, you never will. Have a nice life. :)

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I think the whole idea of MYFC would be more workable if members had nothing to do with selection and tactics, as MichiganRed as already pointed out leave those who know what they are doing to run the club.
I`m still in two minds about the whole idea of MYFC i did originally sign up to it but after i thought about it i realised that it was more for the fun factor than anything else, as like pointed out elsewhere its more like a glorified fantasy football team, and i decided not to part with the £35.

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I don't think you can buy that sort of loyalty for £35 !!

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So, you're content with pathetic support? Somehow I don't believe Whalley and the players are.

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Brilliant stuff, Mr Monkey...just when I was expecting you to zig, you zagged. ;) I do agree that life demands pragmatism but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

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I never took you for a Spice Girls fan MR. ;)

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It wasn't really my choice, you see. With the recent arrival of Mr and Mrs Posh Spice, it has become mandatory for every American to worship at the altar of all things "Spice".

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You poor Man:eek:............surely your medical insurance covers such things?;);)

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Being the supreme bureaucrats they are, I'm certain they will find some way to deny paying a claim of this nature. I am just hoping this doesn't prove to be a terminal condition.

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Bit of a non sequitur there, Rowan. Like I said, have a nice life. :)

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QUOTE... I think that voting on team selection is a stupid idea. The webstie says that the manager will brief the website on his ideas, scouting reports etc but the vote would take away his ability to make a last minute decision if they change their expected team sheet. And what about substitutions? do we all need laptops (we'd need a bigger stand) to keep in touch with the bench.
REPLY BY OKUZ...I am a member of myfootball club and i do hope you are not offended with me visiting your message board. Yes we are given a brief by the coach on how the players are perorming through the week but i for one (and i think i speak for most if not all our members) will not be voting on team selection because i have no knowledge of your formation or players ability. the coach will make all last minute decisions and substitutions. I can only assume that the laptop piece was tongue in cheek humour

QUOTE....I don't think that he would agree to a tinpot scheme like this. REPLY BY OKUZ... Its only a tinpot scheme if you have not visited the site and read it ALL.
QUOTE....Some of you seem to be taking this seriously !. I for one take it seriously, we are a group of members who have one thing in common and that is we are football fans. I (we) are not saying that we support accy any more than you but we want to be a part of accrington stanley's success in the future and if that means we all put money into this scheme than that can only be a good thing. Remember its only 35 quid (which is a sunday afternoon down th local) so if it is a scam so be it but accrington stanley can only come out the other end winners
Please visit the Halifax website because they were also being tipped for our attention but because a few negative supporters we now have no intention of backing them, and they have just been saved at the last minute from a winding up order. I visited the ground on saturday and was impressed with what i saw. Good luck with the future

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so a few negative fans and you'll pull out?


you may not find a club in the whole world then who are willing to take it on.

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Can I recommend Barrow? ;)

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Accrington United - ground could be built at Accy amauters ground:eek:
Then it would be closer than Dundee and Dundee united

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ok what about whinney hill:D:D:D:D:Dto make it even more ludicrous:p:D:D the ideololgy sounds alright but it wouldnt work like facism and socialism wouldnt work .not that these ideoligies are right .theres just something weird about this have people really put 35 quid into this or is it just a wind up . only time will tell:confused:if they were real football fans as they are trying to say they are why dont they just go and watch their own local team and get more involved with their own clubs smells a bit fishy to me or is that just the smell of grimsby supporters gutted they lost yesterday :D:D

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 468947) okay then in a nutshell for you we'd rather earn success

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who said anything about going bust you numpty?

if it ever comes down to it we'll just drop a league or two, or come up with some kind of Exeter like scam to avoid it. But how can a club with no debt go bust? The fact of the matter is you pillock we don't want you, so whats the argument? And then if Eric does sell to you we'll just picket the gates so you can't get in :p
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I think some of the responses of the myfc people on here when they find out people don't see them as the knights in shining armour reflect what they would really be like if they did take control of a club.

Can I suggest the Google Page Ranking person at myfc needs to be appointed as first priority :)

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I don't usually post other than to tell people about the coverage of games.

However, from doing a bit of research into this in my professional (as if what I laughingly call work constitutes a proper job in any way shape or form!) capacity I found the following on the Myfootballclub website:

Buying the football club

The most popular club, as voted for by MyFootballClub members, and the one that most closely meets the following criteria, will be purchased:

* 51% or more of the football club shares can be bought.
* There is none, or a manageable debt.
* The club has the potential to reach the Premiership.
* The size of the stadium and the availability of public transport.
* The club is amenable to our approach.

My only question (trying my best to stay objective and fair) is who decides whether a club meets the above? Obviously the first two are factual and can be assessed, but what about the others?

And how well do Stanley meet these criteria? Just thought this would be an interesting question for those in favour and opposition to think about...

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MFC were never in the frame to buy Halifax - A take-over by a local consortium has been in the pipeline for over a year but there has been ongoing difficulties between them and the owner. Halifax faced a winding-up order last Wednesday and a few days earlier the owner Geoff Ralph announced that he had approached about a possible take-over. This was primarily designed to force the consortium's hand - which appears to have happened as they anounced a deal on Wednesday.

Now some fans on the Halifax board openly supported the consortium take-over and as such were openly hostile to MFC being brought into the equation.

In the event that the consortium's take-over collapses then it is possible that Halifax could be bought by MFC - but that would only be after serious consideration of all factors and due diligence being carried out and a full disclosure of the financial and contractual arrangements involving the club.

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Has been discussed as well.

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No wind up - approximately £250,000 was raised in the first 24 hours and some estimate put the total at the moment in the region of £750,000. MFC already has enough to buy a club and apparently four clubs (2 from League 2 and 2 from the Conference) have approached MFC for negotiations.

The idea behind MFC is to give fottball fans some control over their sport. At the moment very few football teams are controlled by fans - and those that are suffer financially. MFC is attempting to bridge the gap. In effect it is a very large supporters trust that will have the finance to buy and run a club.

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To be honest - I don't think anyone who is a member of MFC and has thought seriously about it - would expect to bring a club from the Conference to the Premiership (It could happen but!)

At the end of the day the club that will be purchased is primarily one where the owner is willing to sell for a decent price and the debt is manageable in terms of the potential income of MFC.

Accorington has come into discussions on the MFC forum because the chairman has 60% of the shares and said he is willing to sell. To the best of my knowledge the club has little or no debt and owns a ground - if it does need some work.

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I'm not 100% sure, it is on council owned land I know that.

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we own the ground and as such could 'sell' the bricks and steelwork, but the Council owns the land which we pay a nominal ground rent for.

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Put it this way - a sole businessman who invests in the club would have large financial ties with the club - something to lose - whereas 50,000 odd jobs have only put 35 quid in towards the organisation and have no personal ties with the club aside from wanting their place in the history books.
I know who I'd rather trust with my football club.

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So if the land was sold for housing and we moved to a new ground both Stanley and the council would benefit.

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Phil Whalleys next book would be a doddle

'the owners of Accrington Stanley - a complete listing'

50000 people all parting with an extra tenner to see their name up in lights!

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but what would buy-the-club members make out of that deal :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 469371) who said anything about going bust you numpty? if it ever comes down to it we'll just drop a league or two, or come up with some kind of Exeter like scam to avoid it. But how can a club with no debt go bust? The fact of the matter is you pillock we don't want you, so whats the argument? And then if Eric does sell to you we'll just picket the gates so you can't get in :p </TD></TR><TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" UNSELECTABLE="on" height="1"> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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Dont agree with myFC theory, can u imagine the board meetings:eek: & its bad enough for a manager as it is if they wish or need to spend money on players, ground etc. If Eric wants to sell then should do so with best interest of accy stanley club. What do u get really for your £35 stake??? nice on fantasy football but not really for real life, can imagine alsorts of problems:rolleyes:

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Future book by Revived Red: ''My five games attended - still counting''

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As I explained in an earlier post, the MyFC members cannot profit in any way from such a situation. All profits from ANY business go right back into the club. It may be hard to believe, but none of us is in this trust to make money. It's simply against the laws, the way our trust is organized.

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Originally Posted by Revived Red (Post 469649) Well I for one would be reasonably happy, depending on the identity of the multi-millionaire and his level of commitment. My problem is that I simply cannot forget the ludicrous MyFC concept - even for a moment.

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You an ostrich then? :Banane18::Banane18: Do love your smilies, Much better than the ones available on most sites. By the way take a trip down Bishops Avenue, Hamstead are of north London, Back to back millionaires there mate you may be lucky................


Help!! Can anyone translate this into English? Or explain it?

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I did wonder myself RR but I thought it was the drink and I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE RELEVANCE?