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cmonstanley 09-09-2007 14:46

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ok what about whinney hill:D:D:D:D:Dto make it even more ludicrous:p:D:D the ideololgy sounds alright but it wouldnt work like facism and socialism wouldnt work .not that these ideoligies are right .theres just something weird about this have people really put 35 quid into this or is it just a wind up . only time will tell:confused:if they were real football fans as they are trying to say they are why dont they just go and watch their own local team and get more involved with their own clubs smells a bit fishy to me or is that just the smell of grimsby supporters gutted they lost yesterday :D:D

Malcolmx 09-09-2007 16:43

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 468947)
okay then in a nutshell for you



we'd rather earn success


maccawozzagod 09-09-2007 17:16

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Originally Posted by Malcolmx (Post 469359)
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who said anything about going bust you numpty?

if it ever comes down to it we'll just drop a league or two, or come up with some kind of Exeter like scam to avoid it. But how can a club with no debt go bust? The fact of the matter is you pillock we don't want you, so whats the argument? And then if Eric does sell to you we'll just picket the gates so you can't get in :p
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lancsdave 09-09-2007 17:50

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I think some of the responses of the myfc people on here when they find out people don't see them as the knights in shining armour reflect what they would really be like if they did take control of a club.

Can I suggest the Google Page Ranking person at myfc needs to be appointed as first priority :)

Dan 09-09-2007 19:01

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I don't usually post other than to tell people about the coverage of games.

However, from doing a bit of research into this in my professional (as if what I laughingly call work constitutes a proper job in any way shape or form!) capacity I found the following on the Myfootballclub website:

Buying the football club

The most popular club, as voted for by MyFootballClub members, and the one that most closely meets the following criteria, will be purchased:

* 51% or more of the football club shares can be bought.
* There is none, or a manageable debt.
* The club has the potential to reach the Premiership.
* The size of the stadium and the availability of public transport.
* The club is amenable to our approach.

My only question (trying my best to stay objective and fair) is who decides whether a club meets the above? Obviously the first two are factual and can be assessed, but what about the others?

And how well do Stanley meet these criteria? Just thought this would be an interesting question for those in favour and opposition to think about...

doheochai 09-09-2007 21:03

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 469288)
so a few negative fans and you'll pull out?

MFC were never in the frame to buy Halifax - A take-over by a local consortium has been in the pipeline for over a year but there has been ongoing difficulties between them and the owner. Halifax faced a winding-up order last Wednesday and a few days earlier the owner Geoff Ralph announced that he had approached about a possible take-over. This was primarily designed to force the consortium's hand - which appears to have happened as they anounced a deal on Wednesday.

Now some fans on the Halifax board openly supported the consortium take-over and as such were openly hostile to MFC being brought into the equation.

In the event that the consortium's take-over collapses then it is possible that Halifax could be bought by MFC - but that would only be after serious consideration of all factors and due diligence being carried out and a full disclosure of the financial and contractual arrangements involving the club.

doheochai 09-09-2007 21:05

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Originally Posted by Oggy (Post 469292)
Can I recommend Barrow? ;)

Has been discussed as well.

doheochai 09-09-2007 21:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 469318)
theres just something weird about this have people really put 35 quid into this or is it just a wind up .

No wind up - approximately £250,000 was raised in the first 24 hours and some estimate put the total at the moment in the region of £750,000. MFC already has enough to buy a club and apparently four clubs (2 from League 2 and 2 from the Conference) have approached MFC for negotiations.

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only time will tell:confused:if they were real football fans as they are trying to say they are why dont they just go and watch their own local team and get more involved with their own clubs smells a bit fishy to me
The idea behind MFC is to give fottball fans some control over their sport. At the moment very few football teams are controlled by fans - and those that are suffer financially. MFC is attempting to bridge the gap. In effect it is a very large supporters trust that will have the finance to buy and run a club.

doheochai 09-09-2007 21:14

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 469393)

* 51% or more of the football club shares can be bought.
* There is none, or a manageable debt.
* The club has the potential to reach the Premiership.
* The size of the stadium and the availability of public transport.
* The club is amenable to our approach.

My only question (trying my best to stay objective and fair) is who decides whether a club meets the above? Obviously the first two are factual and can be assessed, but what about the others?

And how well do Stanley meet these criteria? Just thought this would be an interesting question for those in favour and opposition to think about...

To be honest - I don't think anyone who is a member of MFC and has thought seriously about it - would expect to bring a club from the Conference to the Premiership (It could happen but!)

At the end of the day the club that will be purchased is primarily one where the owner is willing to sell for a decent price and the debt is manageable in terms of the potential income of MFC.

Accorington has come into discussions on the MFC forum because the chairman has 60% of the shares and said he is willing to sell. To the best of my knowledge the club has little or no debt and owns a ground - if it does need some work.

Bagpuss 09-09-2007 21:58

Re: Myfootballclub
 
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Originally Posted by doheochai (Post 469451)
and owns a ground

I'm not 100% sure, it is on council owned land I know that.

maccawozzagod 09-09-2007 22:04

Re: Myfootballclub
 
we own the ground and as such could 'sell' the bricks and steelwork, but the Council owns the land which we pay a nominal ground rent for.

shakermaker 09-09-2007 22:05

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Put it this way - a sole businessman who invests in the club would have large financial ties with the club - something to lose - whereas 50,000 odd jobs have only put 35 quid in towards the organisation and have no personal ties with the club aside from wanting their place in the history books.
I know who I'd rather trust with my football club.

Bagpuss 09-09-2007 22:10

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 469472)
we own the ground and as such could 'sell' the bricks and steelwork, but the Council owns the land which we pay a nominal ground rent for.

So if the land was sold for housing and we moved to a new ground both Stanley and the council would benefit.

maccawozzagod 09-09-2007 22:11

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Phil Whalleys next book would be a doddle

'the owners of Accrington Stanley - a complete listing'

50000 people all parting with an extra tenner to see their name up in lights!

maccawozzagod 09-09-2007 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bagpuss (Post 469480)
So if the land was sold for housing and we moved to a new ground both Stanley and the council would benefit.


but what would buy-the-club members make out of that deal :rolleyes:


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