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Growler 30-09-2007 18:12

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No Peter, you brought Mango on at just the right time (for you!)
He's a bit like NOS on a race car - a good spurt of energy but use it too soon and it runs out when you still need it....

Those supporters the furthest away from you were the ultras. OK, so the rest of us weren't as noisy - at least we were there...
...and that selection of cakes was paticularly tasty!
I couldn't beleive how empty and quiet your home end was!

rude-dog 30-09-2007 19:38

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how we lost yesterdays game i will never know. we where so much in control it was untrue. branch should have put us 1 up early on after a great move. they never threatened apart form the odd free kick. we get a freak goal and i was startin to think play offs was in reach again. then typical stanley cav and brown give the ball away on the edge of the box. then for some strange reason carden tried a back pass instead of just putting the ball in row Z.( first rule of defendin safety first) he still should of cleared it on the line as the ball appeared to go thru or under him cudnt tell from my view. the second goal you can maybe say was a bit unsporting but you have got to play to the whistle. rocky shudnt be getting out muscled by mangan and webb and richardson just stood there and let adams have the freedom of the penalty area. for me there was still alot of positives, craney looked quite sharp considerin he hasnt played alot, apart from the last 20 mins the new formation makes us look alot more solid, sean webb looks a good signin. i would of took carden off earlier as he is just to slow on the ball he was robbed a few times. i was surprised when cav went into midfield but he looked alot more effective than carden. cant wait for harris to come back or rommy???? presuming he was injured or ill yesterday

Arithon 01-10-2007 09:07

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I felt that in many ways the game was lost in the FIRST HALF. Accrington passed the ball around well, used both wings to good effect and made Bury seem like the away team, the quietness of 3 sides of the ground was testament to this. However, I lost count of the number of times we got the ball just outside their box, had loads of time but seemed frightened to shoot. It was almost like we were trying to do an Arsenal and walk the ball into the net. We could and should have been 2 or 3 up at half time.

After a great start to the second half, Accrington then sat back and Bury gradually rose in confidence which eventually led to the Bury goal. As others have said we totally froze when Mangan came on. We either have to learn to protect a lead with good tight defense (perhaps with substitutions made earlier) or, more in keeping with Stanley's style of play, go for the jugular and put the game beyond reach.

Lancashire Stan 01-10-2007 18:22

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Coleman Fury At Bury Winner (from Lancashire Telegraph)

Looks like Coley has his own ideas about what happened.

maccawozzagod 01-10-2007 18:32

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he should have saved his stinging criticism for some of our 'defenders'

Bagpuss 01-10-2007 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 476508)
he should have saved his stinging criticism for some of our 'defenders'

Totally agree macca, this time it was not the ref to blame but our own fault, Coleman included.

peter the shaker 01-10-2007 20:29

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Coleman moaning about honesty? Isn't he a scouser?

DAV007 01-10-2007 22:11

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coleman picks the team

the team couldnt score

colemans fault

Oggy 01-10-2007 22:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 476611)
coleman picks the team

the team couldnt score

colemans fault

I detect a false syllogism here, but I am a bit tired. ;)

maccawozzagod 01-10-2007 22:46

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nah, he has two sources of reasoning from which to draw his conclusion.

What's with all the decasyllabics tonight Oggy?

harwood red 01-10-2007 22:54

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well I think it's building into quite a sorites :rolleyes:

maccawozzagod 01-10-2007 22:54

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is that near Rochdale?

harwood red 01-10-2007 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 476630)
is that near Rochdale?

hmm well you should know that :rolleyes:

mab 01-10-2007 23:00

Re: V Bury
 
:mad:gutted and still can't beleave we lost,should have come away with all 3 points... :(:(:(:(

Oggy 01-10-2007 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod (Post 476623)
What's with all the decasyllabics tonight Oggy?

Must've been stood in Borders longer than I thought. ;)

carpon 02-10-2007 00:57

Re: V Bury
 
I was travelling back from the Gigg and heard Coley on Radio Lancs.Bear in mind I was travelling back to Blackburn with a Shakers fan, obviously very happy having seen a first home win in 10 months. Coley comes on the radio and after bemoaning the defending for their equalizer,starts having a whinge about their winner.

Maybe I was a little unsighted, but i'd consider I was following the play. I didn't notice Proccy lying prostrate at the opposite end of the field(apparently he got up reasonably quickly??). What I did notice was the back line totally folding,switching off,notably Williams. I agree with an earlier poster, we had plenty of oppertunities to clear their equaliser,the defending for the second goal was SHAMBOLIC.

Whatever happened to (what was always drummed into me when playing schoolboy football and laterly local league amateur football) PLAYING to the Whistle ??

Now I'm not normally one to question J.C. but after Saturday I've had a "nasty taste in my mouth" so to speak. I feel that after having a side (no disrespect to Bury) on the rack for a long time and having gifted (NAY,THROWN AWAY!!) 3 points, Coley's reasoning for allocating blame/ laying reasons behind their winning goal was a little farcical. Coley's even had a go at the Stewards for some verbal abuse he received Saturday!!

For me, I'm starting to see an unpleasant pattern emerging. At times Coley is far too quick to lay the blame for a defeat, or even simply a goal conceded at the door of the officials. Admittedly, the majority of sides and managers bemoan such occasions/incidents, but the all too familiar frequency of J.C. having the now familiar(familiar to me at least,maybe I'm not on my own??) gripe at the officials is starting to wear a bit thin.

Not just after Saturday,it's all too obvious where our problems lie.I am loathe to criticise individuals and I'll let you draw you're own conclusions.Our defensive record from last season speaks volumes,but on what I've seen this season, there is an all too familiar echo.

Apparently the players were in for extra training on Sunday. I only hope that the defence watched a video of the last 20 mins at Bury and the focus of that extra training session was aimed at defending as both a unit and individually.

Judge as you will my comments. Maybe some of you have a little empathy with what I have been trying to get across/ have a whinge about. The one certainty is that we CANNOT keep shipping goals and making mistakes like we have been doing.IF the mistakes/slopiness continues, that will equate to another long,hard struggle towards keeping the place in the football league that we fought so hard to get back.


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