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All i can say is we were absolutely diabolical tonight not one real chance in first half and not much improvement in second,big dissapointment for a decent crowd, only plus was Bavs IMO he was on top form between the sticks.

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Heres the positives on tonights game












End of list :rolleyes:

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Yeh have to agree with you there it was absolutely abysmal performance from stanley, only one team playing & that weren't stanley!!! It was a decent crowd so the friday night idea for attendance worked but seriously think tonights performance will have put off a fair few people from coming the next home game - even friday night slot. Sorry Eric you cant blame the attendance this time the team let the fans down!:(

Passing was rubbish - back to long balls in the air [conference level it reminded me of], no concentration & positions out of wack, yeh bavo played as best as he could as the defence was dire - our weakest defence link is that no-one covers the end goal post...huge gap easily exploited as wrexham proved. Hey evil managed not to get booked & least made some effort:eek: & half of our crowd left early.

Very disappointing:(

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We had absolutely no bollocks whatsoever tonight.
Well, apart from the complete balls up Coley made of the subs.

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Well proccy got the ball wacked in his :p:D

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Which one?

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Andy Proctor walks on water & ended up counting his balls instead of scoring em - that proccy :D:rofl38:

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One team wanted to win more tonight. They were first to win the ball and played with more purpose when they got it.

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Yes but why? What happened to the we must beat the teams around us especially at home? Did mid table in October delude us into thinking Wrexham weren't?

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What on earth did the club hope to gain by bringing this fixture forward from Saturday? Certainly not extra people coming through the gate. Stanley were unrecognisable from the heroes who gave their all in a magnificent performance on Tuesday night, and no wonder. I'm still tired from that effort, never mind those lads. An extra day to recover would have made a big difference in my opinion. Stanley were flat, Wrexham came out fighting for their lives after a diabolical performance the same night as Stanley's great show - the psychological effect was completely different, and others posting earlier on another thread were correct in calling for Coley to rest 2 or 3 players to freshen it up. I am so annoyed about tonight because other than the Tuesday night 149, the Stanley fans will not believe how superbly the team can really play.
Get back to Saturdays please, at least after a mid-week game. You wouldn't get Prem teams, even with their vast resources, being daft enough to play again after only 2 days rest.

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Didnt both teams played tuesday night:confused: so was even time, they even got hammered while we were celebrating win.

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As i gathered from the performance - we expected wrexham to be a walk in the park IMHO & they were up for it after suffering a big defeat - that seemed the difference.

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Mr Whalley you can stick the Friday night experiment up your arse, Mr Coleman I think you may have lost the plot, tactics rubbish, substitutions what where you thinking, Dunbavin I wouldn't have him in a Sunday league team, one turnstile open still loads waiting to get in 5 minutes into the game, utter tinpot, 1800 my left testicle, cheers Stanley and to think I'd had a good week up to tonight, utter crap all round

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Course they did, as I stated. But you can't easily replicate that sort of sustained effort, which was astonishing. You're bound to get a reaction and the time factor is important.

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Yeh bagpuss the queues were horrendous even i missed the 1st few minutes - lucky i didnt miss much..........2 turnstiles, pathetic, when a third was occupied by a steward till after match started - not a good impression at all!

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Still not excusable & same for both teams we had advantage of being at home, this is football league we should have some level on concentration & effort - which we lacked more than owt else.

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I wish the queues were longer, I could have missed the whole match :rolleyes:

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I went out at half time and was daft enough to go back in :D

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:rofl38: queue was more exciting then :p:D

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I take it you didn't see the concentration and effort on Tuesday night?

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:( not a good performance tonight and to top it all Andy Mangan was sitting in the stand with our players not playing tonight:confused: talk about rubbing it in :mad: whats his game !! should have stayed away.... and as for the gate being 1800 well it looked pritty full in the clayton end and seem to be the same in the seats and looked like there was at least 500 in the away end more like 3000 on to me.

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disgrace tonight.
with the exception of dunbavin, mullin and cav who put some effort in - the rest where shocking.
Why does coleman never change it - it was blinding obvious certain players needed a rest.
And he chooses the same team again.

You can love or hate McEvilly - the fact remains Mullin needs a rest, so give Lee a start and bring mullin on.
The same with the defence - Webb loooked tired after 20 minutes.
Why cant JC or JB identify this and change the system to 4-4-2. We are at home.
I dontthink this wing back system works when we are chasing games it makes us to one dimensional.

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Lee McEvilly is a useless lump of ****. Get over it. Mullin does not need a rest, he needs service (ie Rommy Boco).

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disgrace tonight.
with the exception of dunbavin, dsane and cav who put some effort in, the rest where shocking.
Why does coleman never change it, it was blinding obvious certain players needed a rest.
And he chooses the same team again.

You can love or hate McEvilly, the fact remains Mullin needs a rest, so give Lee a start and bring mullin on.
The same with the defence, Webb loooked tired after 20 minutes.
Why cant JC or JB identify this and change the system to 4-4-2. We are at home.
I dont think this wing back system works when we are chasing games it makes us one dimensional.
it works away on the counter attack - but not at home, especially when behind.
Coleman just seemed clueless tonight.

Im not fan of John Miles, but if he hasnt played for 3 games and is fully fit - why not start him instead of Brown or at least give him more than 15 minutes to get into the game.

Carden, is still to impress me.

Coleman showed he is naive tonight.

The club showed how amature they can be.
No light on the beer stall in the away end.
Only 3 members of staff in the catering van, 1 in the beer stall.
Only opening one set of turnstiles despite a long crew 5 minutes prior to kick off.
And very poor lighting full stop behind the Clayton end - im surprise the council allow it.

really annoyed, you dont mind getting beat, but not when your own team dont give 100%.
Alot of those players where lazy, second to be ball.
We are an average side, who can overcome better teams by effort and effort alone.
Dissapointing.
Coleman cant blame the ref tonight, the ref had a good game.

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Thats the thing about home matches you get a lot of supporters who can only attend home matches.
When people have paid to be entertained only to get what at the very best can only be called a half arsed performance by the team, saying we played well once when we were away, really doesn't wash.:mad:

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The one constant about last nights inept farce was that Wrexham wanted it more!
We were off the pace all night nearly every ball we put forward came straight back, at half time we were talking and would have took a 1-1 draw at that point could it get any worse second half in a nutshell yes!!
The whole team looked lethargic and some of the passing was dreadful, I am sorry but at the end of the day we just weren't up for it
What is it about Stanley and back to back wins?
Who got MOM that must have been a difficult choice?:(

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If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat these two imposters just the same ...

You probably survived the last week reasonably well. But for normal Stanley fans - :eek:

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Well, I hope we have heard the last from manager and chairman complaining about gates. Last night was the perfect answer as to why folk aren't attending matches! For every Bradford there are four or five Wrexhams it seems. Having been unable to attend at Bury or Bradford the match seemed to be a continuation of the second half against Mansfield - abysmal! The system played is far more appropriate and likely to succeed in away games where you're hitting home teams on the break and not expecting the full backs to be wingers and beating opponents. Mr Coleman says he ain't looking for a 'keeper - oh, dear! `Bavs` is Billy Braggs archetypal `accident waiting to happen!`and when ever he interchanged the ball with Rocky/Dodgy my heart was in my mouth. Paul Mullin looked a shadow of himself last night and the decision to keep him on and substitute Roscoe was so stupid it defies belief. I hope the manager heard what the crowd, never mind Roscoe, thought of it! He gets a hug at Bradford and three days later gets treated like a mug. Yes, the manager has been unlucky with the serious injuries to the excellent Arthur and Ian Craney so we haven't even got a `lucky` manager. I wonder what the gate will be for the next Friday night's match?

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The view from the Clayton End suggested he was also lenient. It looked from there that Webb was the last man when he got booked. Maybe somebody in the stand with a better view could let us know better.

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Obviously the team were very poor last night, but some of the reactions on here are OTT in my opinion.

The problem is that in order to break down teams who defend in numbers, you need midfield players who can run with the ball and find penetrating passes. With Craney out/gone, we don't have players like that. Proccy ran his heart out and tried to do it, but he isn't that kind of player. Carden and Brown can't do it either, so you end up with possession, but no penetration. When that happens we resort to plan B, which is to play long balls up the middle, which the big Wrexham defenders ate up easily. Mullin struggled against those big lads and Dsane hardly had a look in.
Wrexham had 10 players behind the ball whenever we had it, so you need to be clever to work your way past them. We don't have it.

Away from home, teams aren't going to play like that. They will come out and play, which gives us more room to play to our strengths. At Bradford on Tuesday we had acres of space for Dsane to exploit, as their backline were pushed up to the halfway line. Last night, Wrexham defended from the edge of their area and packed the rest of their half, up to the halfway line.

We have never been good at breaking down teams who defend in that way, but we always had a chance when we had players like Craney or Roberts who could 'unlock' a packed midfield by running at it. Last night showed that we can't handle that kind of game now.

Wrexham came and did a job. They played in a similar way to how we often play away from home. Defend to the last man, then hit them on the break. All credit to them. They did it very well.

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I think it was because the striker was a good 25 yards from goal and there was another defender tracking back ready to intercept; Webb wasn't fouling in a goal scoring opportunity.

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What happened to the psychic who hynotised them into winning the conference. Bring him/her back I say.

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One verdict on the Bradford game:

"But at least the Accrington contingent went home happy. If their side maintain this form, a trip to Wembley in the play-offs is more likely than a slide out of the League. Delighted manager John Coleman reckoned that he had just watched the “most complete performance” any of his sides had produced in nine years with the club. And, oozing pride, he pointed out that “Every single player contributed and we've gone that extra mile.”"

How that resonates after last night's showing!!!

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Perhaps the psychic is back - they seemed to be in a trance last night.

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Thanks for clarifying that. As I said somebody in the stand would give us a better view. 25 yards out as last man would normally be a red card.

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Absolutely spot on! To my mind Carden is just a slower, inferior alternative to either Proctor or Harris without either of those 2 player's finishing potential. Why he wasn't substituted with either Boco or Harris at half time is beyond me. Or maybe they weren't both on the bench?

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well i disagree with you its not over the top last night we had a chance to build on our support we had an extra 200-400 extra supporters they are not going to come back after a gutless spineless game no effort or anything if we are going to play good games we might as well do it at home so people will come and watch .all ive heard today from people who dont usually go but who did last night was ill never go again theyve never seen a team who have never tried like that and theyll take their money elsewhere .last night we had a brilliant atmosphere going if that cant motivate the players what can.people keep saying we will stay up i dont think so opposition managers will just watch a replay of last game and do the same tactics it wont be hard wrexam were bottom of the league if we cant beat them at home its worrying times ahead..

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I thought last night's performance demotivated the supporters, Wrexham fans rightly singing, "we can see you sneaking out", as the Clayton end were filing out before the end, never seen that before.

On the attendance, slightly up for this season, but 867 down on last year, (a Tuesday night). Would be interesting to know the away breakdown for both matches. I don't relish Friday night games, neither, it seems, do some of our players. :(

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There was also a certain amount of booing last night as the team went off and that's very unusual for Stanley. There were a lot of "casuals" on and it was the perfect opportunity for the team to impress them and motivate them to come back...they let us down, totally. :mad:

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I also thought the booing was totally out of order. I'm not having that.
Stanley fans have always been 100% behind the team - even when the team has played half-arsed or individuals have let the rest of the side down.

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I'm afraid my £13 will be staying in my pocket in 2 weeks time :(

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Mine too but only cause I'm working, certainly not going to loose money by not going to work to watch a repeat performance of last night

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Totally agree with you, Shakey, I've never jeered them and I never would. But the very fact that there was booing proves what a poor display they put on. And I think Dave's sentiment echoes many casual fans or fans of other local sides who came on last night.

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At first I thought you where joking but no smiley. Like Liverpool the other night who where booed for a terrible performance Stanleys gutless attempt to play was worse and some fans show what they thought.

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Bottom line - you don't boo your own side.
Maybe someone who supports 2 clubs or more can't see that.

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As Sarah and I were getting into the car at the end of the match last night, I overheard the visiting Police Officers saying that 484 Wrexham fans were there last night.........so a slight increase on home support, but after the performance on the pitch I very much doubt that the Club will sustain that for the next home game...........wait and see time I guess:(.

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Bitchy Bitchy, your opinion don't boo, my opinion if people want to boo it's their option, for the record I didn't boo I choose not to clap and disappeared into the night without a beer.:(

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You should've come in the Crown to keep me company. I was sitting there on my own, drinking to forget and listening to the happy sheep-abusers on the next table!

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you pay your money, you can boo as much as you like.

I agree with an earlier comment, very little on the pitch to motivate the fans.

Part of me was alittle freightened to chant a substitutes name as we all know Coleman doenst like it.
Im sorry, but when we lack some creativity in midfield and when Paul Mullin is physically knackered, I have every right to chant Boco's and Evils name.

Whalley is only a half player IMO. he has the ability to be an impact player, run and dribble, etc.
But his final ball and his ability in the air is not good enough.

Anyone else think Phil Edwards would be a welcome additon to the defence?

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Carrying a back injury.
I think we should play Cavanagh, Roberts, Rocky, Leam in home games.
Include Phil instead of Webb when playing wing backs away from home. Webb hasn't impressed me at all.

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Fine, but it says more about you than the team, IMO. I'd like to think most Stanley fans are above the likes of Liverpool, Everton and Barrow.

Did merit a dignified silence, though. :(

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Yep it got that from me nothing else needed to be said but when they do play well they get the applause hence did not last night & think that enough to warrent disappointment in their play & hope they improve on last nights performance in future matches to come:rolleyes:

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i think after last nights performance the next home game should be free . and stanley turn up:rolleyes:

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booing or cheering make sod all difference so why do either? because it makes the individual feel better. I won't boo but if somebody next to me was doing then I wouldn't be fussed.

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Is the choice yours then? Not theirs.

118 ticket holders wasn't it!

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I'm with you on that:o

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your right he was the last man and was very lucky to only get a yellow :)