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cmonstanley 13-01-2008 21:19

Re: vs Stockport County
 
if the defence dont have much faith in bavs they should try harder:rolleyes:and the apathy, if its not apathy what is it we just seem to be going through the motions. when was there an equaliser possible when we only had long range shots which the keeper caught comfortly .even if the keeper never caught them comfortly there was no one following them up.agree about the pitch but it was the same for both teams.plus we always concede at nearly the same time in every match just before halftime ,the only thing they are interested in near half time is coming off the pitch,what we should be doing is trying to catch the opposition on the hop but the opposite always happens.it was about 4 seconds before the goal went in i predicted we were going to concede because the full defence was out of position they were daydreaming the frustrating thing is we know they can perform when they can be bothered thats what i am trying to get at im not slagging them off ,i just want them to wake up they are supposed to be professionals now.we could get away with that in the lower leagues but not now we need a kick up the backsides a new way to prepare for matches maybe a dietician for pre-match meals .the only predictable thing is we concede preventable goals ,we make stupid mistakes because the players have turned off .they should be more focused thats what you do when you are a professional in any sport.i agree with you about mark king thats what happens when you striker gets in the box thats where he should be in the box mullers is at his best when he is in the box not stuck in midfield plugging up holes anyway there is always the next game cmon lads we know you can play a bit just focus try the easy way no fancy flicks, pass in triangles get in the box:Dim getting carried away now:banjump::banjump::banjump::banjump::banjump::b anjump::banjump::banjump::banjump::banjump:cmon you reds

Oggy 13-01-2008 23:19

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 516602)
.... we always concede at nearly the same time in every match just before halftime ,the only thing they are interested in near half time is coming off the pitch....

Actually, that was something we used to do, first time this season was yesterday, according to stats -

When the goals have been scored and conceded this season
http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG...RINGTON_gd.gif

It's the 2nd half that's usually the bigger problem. :(

Revived Red 13-01-2008 23:21

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After a weekend in the north, I'm now back home and thought I would add my two penn'orth about the Stockport game. As others have said, the real positive was the performance of Mark King. Sorry - I should have said the only positive.

Team selection is a total mystery. OK, our defence has its share of critics - but it is not going to improve with constant changing. Any defence relies heavily on a good understanding between the two central defenders. It surely makes good sense for the present team - and for the future - to have Sean Webb and Mark Roberts at the centre of that defence and allow them to develop an understanding. If that is not the way ahead, I cannot understand why we signed Sean Webb or extended his contract.

Andy Todd was a shadow of the player we knew last season, but maybe that's because he spent most of the game on the left wing before he was subbed. But the entire midfield was a huge disappointment.

I am convinced that there is something amiss at the club. Maybe Rommy Boco has hinted at it in the comments on another thread. My own feeling is that Graham Branch had a negative effect on the others - apart from his own glaring limitations as a player. It may be that Lee McEvilly has had a similar negative effect, although I have no evidence for that.

Also it could be that some players feel that their performance in any game will have no bearing on their inclusion in the team (or even squad) for the next game. If that is correct, it must surely have a demoralising effect.

harwood red 13-01-2008 23:21

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hmmm you can tell we have major issues for goals against just before final whistle!!

harwood red 13-01-2008 23:23

Re: vs Stockport County
 
Oh and most of all, what we wouldn't have done to see a welchy type cracker again :D

Pendle Red 14-01-2008 06:33

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[quote=cmonstanley;516602] a new way to prepare for matches maybe a dietician for pre-match meals .

Now that is one point that does need serious thought

One of my friends was Chef at Burnley amongst other things one of his main duties was preparing Breakfast & Lunch at Gawthorpe for the players:)

maccawozzagod 14-01-2008 10:14

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it will never be a serious thought for a club like ours and probably no team in our division.

How much would a decent dietician/chef cost?
Can you conceivably follow the players aroud after they have had their four hours or so at the club?

It is as much as we can do to ensure the lads are fit and healthy, if they then choose to look after themselves properly in their own time then that is a bonus and will help their career and performances. A fit player will probably only get that extra 1% fitness/performance out of a dietician and that (as bad as it sounds) would only make a real difference at the top of the game.

The cost of employing one or two of these type of staff should be right at the very bottom of the list of priorities behind new players, Google Page Ranking staff, Marketing Execs, sales force, general help behind the scenes, expanded stock range for the expanded shop etc etc etc

You can stick your cous-cous up your r's-r's

Alvin the chipmunk 14-01-2008 14:03

Re: vs Stockport County
 
Harry Redknapp was once asked about dieticians. His reply was something like "If a player cant pass a ball straight, then a bowl of pasta wont make no difference" :D

shakermaker 14-01-2008 14:52

Re: vs Stockport County
 
Modern full-time footballers (regardless of level) are athletes, not the pint guzzlers of days gone by. You get out of the body what you put into it.
That said, I do not believe a full time dietitian's wage is necessary for our club as the coaching staff can easily implement a dieting regime with appropriate advice, if it isn't already in practice.

Wynonie Harris 15-01-2008 07:48

Re: vs Stockport County
 
Turns out we've all been wrong. It's not Coley's dodgy team selection or tactics, or the players performing like dummies, it's the ref's fault!

Colemans Anger At Ref (from Lancashire Telegraph)

shakermaker 15-01-2008 07:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 517097)
Turns out we've all been wrong. It's not Coley's dodgy team selection or tactics, or the players performing like dummies, it's the ref's fault!

Colemans Anger At Ref (from Lancashire Telegraph)

Shudda known...

Get gone Coley. You've lost the dressing room, a number of fans, and most importantly - your marbles.

lancsdave 15-01-2008 09:07

Re: vs Stockport County
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 517097)
Turns out we've all been wrong. It's not Coley's dodgy team selection or tactics, or the players performing like dummies, it's the ref's fault!

Colemans Anger At Ref (from Lancashire Telegraph)


There's a novelty, a manager blaming defeat on the officials :rofl38:

AccyMad 15-01-2008 09:09

Re: vs Stockport County
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 517097)
Turns out we've all been wrong. It's not Coley's dodgy team selection or tactics, or the players performing like dummies, it's the ref's fault!

Colemans Anger At Ref (from Lancashire Telegraph)

The term 'clutching at straws' springs to mind :rolleyes:


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