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Morning/evening all...

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="98%" align=center bgColor=#def4ff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>25. Ian Dunbavin
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>12. Phil Edwards
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>5. Mark Roberts
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>28. Mark King
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>27. Andy Todd
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>6. Andrew Proctor
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>4. Robbie Williams
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>23. Ian Craney
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>8. James Harris
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>10. Paul Mullin
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>9. Roscoe D'Sane
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2 height=5></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="98%" align=center bgColor=#def4ff border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=smallheading align=middle bgColor=#000099 colSpan=2>SUBS </TD></TR><TR><TD>26. Martin Fearon (GK)
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>19. Leighton McGivern
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>15. Lee McEvilly
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>3. Leam Richardson
</TD><TD align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=2>http://www.sportinglife.com/images/f...yer_divide.gif</TD></TR><TR><TD>7. Shaun Whalley
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Wht has he put our best player from recent weeks on the bench? Leam must be gutted.

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New boy straight in!!!

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Hello John, beat me to it.

What's Leam got to do, to keep his place? :confused:

Although good to see Phil at right back, and good luck to the new lad.

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Hiya OGGY.... may the King reign..

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signing in howdo all, just watched ricky tomilinson dvd:D

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1 down micheal rose

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apparently the pitch is like a ploughed field, sale sharks played on it last night and its in bits!!!

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****** ****** already :(

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Love child straight back in and Webb not even on the bench!!! You can't even say that the Williams for Webb switch last week paid off. We conceded more goals with Williams on the pitch. Coleman knows as much about defensive players as I do about quantum physics!! Pathetic!

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Oh *$^%$** ...please please don't stuff this result up Stanley.Serious bragging rights and beer involved on todays result.

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Coffee # 1 in my hand now.

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Not gone today because of their appalling reception last year, seems like they're still not bothered.

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Ggggrrrr:mad: yep im with you on that TM

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Late injury maybe??

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Who have you got bragging rights over kiwi:D

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Webb played at Preston, so it was obvious to all that he wasn't in contention for today.

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I take it they didnt play golden boy though he could do with more blumming 'defence' practice!!

Oh rocky playing hasnt made my day:(

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The bloke in black is from Stockport.We form the 'rowdy' section at Hawkes Bay Utd home games..
http://file043a.bebo.com/2/large/200...306065485l.jpg

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OOOh i see Kiwi, lol, really hoping stanley shuts the guy up for a day then :rofl38: Are you the one with the stanley shirt ???? 1st thing i noticed hehehehehe

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Yea....the missus reckons I'm having my second childhood.:)

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i cant belive he didnt play web how stupid

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Hehehehe nowt wrong with that kiwi;) tho very nice to see stanley shirt there loud & proud:D

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Hello Pendle red jr, you taken over your dads place today??:D

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Darlo beating Bury 2-0

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Newi Cefn Druids ... Anyone from Hereford about that can translate this from Welsh for me??:D

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Baaa baaa baaaaaa:confused: :rofl38:

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Enrol for Scouse elocution lessons perhaps?

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C'mon guys..tuck one away before the break.

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2-0 no no no no

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2-0 stockport ******

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Elding, as well. :(

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Untitled Page

Try this Kiwi

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****** not looking good :(

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we are going to win 3-2......

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Johnny Coleman football genius eh?????? "I'm changing the defence" - all very well unless you leave your best defender (Leam) out & put a new lad who's never played a first team game before straight in!!! Does he not realise that by playing Jay on the wing he gives the opposition acres of space as Jay naturally drifts in to his natural position in centre mid :( Not having a pop at Jay - it's the formation thats all to cock!

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Nowt to do with me:confused:

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Cheers GLOSTERRED but it still don't tell this dumb colonial how to pronounce it,or if it does,I didn't notice it.:)

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From bits I 've heard Mark King seems to be doing okay set pieces we are struggling against as usual

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Right then, second half tactics...All smokers light up in 5 minutes from posting and non smokers make a coffee.

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Coffee made - I've got a flask full :) )I don't smoke but have just lit up anyway - I'll do owt to help)

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seems coley has took the quick fix solution today really

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You'ld do that for the team!!! ??? Fantastic:D

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Oh right sorry Google Page Ranking thought he was your lad

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Typical..no odds offered on GRETNA over here today ...AND THEY'RE WINNING :( :(

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Oh aye - they don't call me Mad for nowt Kiwi :D

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Correction my apologies just found it is and that he did, Maybe a manager in the making:)

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Never seeen a poor bookie, eh John. ;)

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kiwi.... think it is pronounced newy kefin druids.... you really need a hereford messageboard for this as they are experts in all things welsh!!!:D

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To true OGGY...we don't have bookies over here like you do ,instead the TAB(tote) offers fixed odds for most major sporting events worldwide.Unfortunetly early Scottish Cup rounds and League 1 and 2 game don't qualify...

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:D:D... ta very much.

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hehe by time i reply to owt it'll be full time as psp typing takes ages to do, pc been robbed

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Thats a bummer STANLEYMAD

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When I go to the races, I give my lazy dollars to the Tote, and put my "dead certs" on with the bookies, seems to work (well at York, anyway).

I won't bet on football, though, too unpredictable. :)

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Whalley on for Toddy, just noticed King and Craney booked.

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Looks like you've missed me, lighting my fag this very min :D

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hehe :D
HR says it's crap even stewards!

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Thats kids for u hehe:D

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Evil and McGivern on, Mullin and Roscoe off.

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What!! no :eek:

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Cmon STANLEY

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looks like im sulking tonight:(

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Looks like I have to save up for a beer or two...:(

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*()$%#^&* Morcambe again :( :(

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Peterborough and MK Franchise both lose at home. :)

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Oh no kiwi hope u dont get too much of a ribbing:(

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They scored in last min jammy sods:(

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It'll start on the small HBU 'Bebo' fanclub page in about 3 hours...:(:(

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Is that when "normal" people get up in NZ? :)

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Ouch! will get mine in a few mins:(

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Yea :D:D:D... I do it for the brief euphoria I experience when Stanley gets a result:D... "She that must be obeyed" just thinks I'm stupid..:(

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He shouted out an ACCRINGTON obsenity during one of those 'hushed' moments during the game last week.Half the 1000 strong crowd laughed and half thought "Who the F*** are Accrington Stanley?:("

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hehehe the team that needs to drink more milk :rofl38:

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Correct about Jay but so wrong about King who was our best player today (not too difficult though). Very disappointing display against a big, strong, quick team who were no great shakes themselves. I could criticise one player more than most but will wait to see what any others say about the 2 goals we conceded, but is isn't Rocky. Why on earth is Coley persisting with playing Toddy on the left? Beyond me.
God, those plastic seats out in the open are cold!

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Toddy doesn't play well on the left as he does on the right

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I simply can't fathom why - when we have a more than capable left winger in Dennehy - Coleman continues with this idiotic formation.
We've got a 4-4-2 with three central midfielders and one natural winger - playing on the wrong flank of course.
And why is Roscoe still getting a starting place ahead of McGivern??

It's going to be a long long season.

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Leam has to have been injured, he has been our best and most consistent player over the last few weeks and has played at right back instead of Edwards. Yet today Edwards is at right back!

Harris on the right wing and Todd on the left? yes lets play two players out of position shall we? why not leave Todd at right wing and play only Harris out of position on the left?

Two crosses, two goals, two unmarked headers in the six yard box not rocket science to work out the keeper should have had them both. So, not Rocky's fault but he wasn't very good again but Webb who had started to forge a decent partnership with Roberts was in the stands.

Roscoe was short of the necessaries today adn maybe McGivern should het a chance again. Roscoe will come good again no doubt, but he and Leigthon are both very similar players so give t'other a run please.

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We had four good chances in the game. Unfortunately we couldn't score from them.We played well in the first half but drifted away aimlessly in the second half. They had two shots on goal the whole game both set pieces -afree kick and a corner-scoring from both, thanks to two goalkeeping errors from Dunbavin.

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...too right..but it shows that we never know when to call it a day!

Not the best of performaces by any means....but that's what makes a promotion candidate.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

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Shamed to say it but wish we could make most of ours but we dont:(

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If Dunbavin plays like that on Tuesday. I dread to think what the Peterborough forwards will do to him. Maybe we should give Fearon a go? Of course, that still wouldn't solve the problem of our under-performing attack. The only bright spot for me today was Mark King who looked very promising indeed.

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Was he 'MARKkING' up well? :)

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mark king was outstanding today, he was caught on the ball a few times but at least he was trying to play, he looks like a good prospect. must agree that leam should of played at right back, thats the least he deserves for the way he has been playing. i have also gotta disagree with points on webb/williams. i thought it was the right decision, webb struggled against pace against chester and dickinson for them was like an olympic sprinter 2day. bav was poor today some bad errors and then his confidence was clearly gone in the 2nd half. top and bottom of it was we never scored when we were on top in the first half and they made us pay, the 2nd half just fizzled out.

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League table now updated, dropped 2 places today, now in 15th position

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Why would anybody sub both their strikers and replace them with 2 new strikers when ...........................................

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You'd think so wouldn't you - but then again it's not the first time this season that we've been mystified by Coley's substitutions:rolleyes:!
Can't help wondering if Bavs' dip in form yesterday is due to him no longer having a keeping coach to work with, the same thing happened to him when Dibs left, it's like he loses all his confidence.

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duplicated : sorry

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to be honest this form dip you mention should mean fearon gets his chance. bavs wasn't setting the world alight when 'in form' his kicking is awful and he still has no control in the area. granted his shot stopping is good but the full package isn't there.

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I'm afraid, with Dunbavin, that silk purses and sows' ears spring to mind. No amount of coaching will turn him into a good goalkeeper. He's too small, has no command of his area no presence in the air and he gives his defence the jitters. It was noticeable how no-one trusted him when he came out to try to claim the ball yesterday.

As I said on this forum about a year ago, when his extended run in the side coincided with our awful spell: he wasn't good enough for Shrewsbury, Morecambe, Halifax, Scarborough - why would we be any different?

Still... I did think it was thoughtful of him to give the ball a little wave as it sailed past him for their second goal!:)

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Looking at the video the first goal wasn't Bav's fault alone, or even at all. Proccy ducked his head out of the way when it was within range and "headable", an instintive reaction but not what is required, otherwise why have a wall in the first place?

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The answer, I think Shakermaker, is that Coley sees Harris, Craney and Proctor as must-starts, and would probably put Toddy in that bracket too while he's here. If you play Dennehey on the left and Toddy on the right, which one of Proccy, Craney or Harris are you going to drop?

I've not seen enough of Dennehey to argue that he's more than capable, but if he is, one answer might be to play 4-4-1-1 with a midfield of Dennehey, Harris, Proctor and Todd, and play Craney in the hole with Mullin as a lone striker.

The one big plus from yesterday was the application of King, who is clearly good enough to fulfil either the left-back or left wing-back roles. We have solved the left-back problem with this lad, and this opens the possibility of three in the middle with Leam/Edwards and King on the flanks.

Harris makes an impact wherever he plays, but he should be in the middle, no doubt, we did look vulnerable to the counter through the middle yesterday. I'd also agree with the poster who argued that Rocky was recalled to cope with the pace of Dickinson. And while Rocky didn't exactly stand out, neither did Roberts. Elding's off-the-ball movement was superb and he found space at will. If Stockport had a decent crosser of the ball Elding would have had a hat-trick from free headers, rather than just the one. Apart from a spell after we had conceded the first, we just didn't look like getting back into it. It was just one of those afternoons, beaten by a better side on the day.

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i dont agree we were beaten by a better team ,its our teams apathy and its starting to pee me off big style .its time to get back to basics defenders stay in your defensive positions midfielders do the job in midfield unless craney moves up to striker again,because lets be honest what has he done since he came back answers on a very small postcard:rolleyes:and the biggest thing that is peeing me off is the strikers where are they and thats including mullers ,where the are you are you not supposed to be in the penalty box yesterday we were restricted to half hit shots 20 yards out thats not good enough even for relegation candidates .yesterday stanley were just going through the motions thats not good enough people pay to watch.i was disgusted with dunbavin yesterday when he jumped the fence to get the ball he just looked up and the look on his face just sums up the contempt some stanley players have got for the stanley support..we pay his wages and he could at least try and gee up the support all we got was a dirty look..and the gestapo stewards is it true somebody got thrown out for starting a mexican wave..i think every stanley player needs to have a long good look at their self and ask themselves if they want to be a professional footballer because they are not proving it on the pitch.i cant criticise players if they put in the effort but we are carrying too many players there is no cohesion in the majority of matches we can see glimpses in some but we need to get back to basics:(

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I gave up trying to decipher this post after the first line.

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ha ha TM It was a dire match and a dire result, within a dire ground with dire stewards.... and yes someone did get thrown out...but not for starting mexican wave, but more for gesturing at copper filming us :rolleyes: he was sat right in front of me, but it was rather heavy handed as he wasn't inciting the crowd he was just being numptyish :D

I was thoroughly fed up after 15 mins in second half and my backside was freezing from them horrible seats :(

On a positive note - chicken and mushroom pie was good :D and the barlady in clubhouse before match was a star

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Oh I don't know - some good points in there if you do the breathing for him!

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other words we were crap again and the same old problems keep coming up its like de-ja-vu..

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Me too I am totally confused as to where the bannanas have gone:confused::confused:

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Better team on the day, I said, not necessarily better full stop. I agree with you that Craney struggled yesterday, but then again so did everyone.

Was this down to apathy, as you suggest? Unless you are privvy to some inside information then that remains just speculation. What we can say for sure is that the defence do not have much confidence in Bavs, and this must have been exacerbated by the early first goal. They had an allotment of a pitch to play on, and then, after playing well enough to suggest that an equaliser was possible, conceded a second at the most frustrating time, with Bavs again at fault. It would be nice to think that Coley can then wave a magic wand and have them come out breathing fire and ready to blitz the oppo, but sometimes it just doesn't happen. Stockport pulled everyone behind the ball, worked hard and just smothered us.

As for getting back to basics, I'd say that our problems often stem from being too predictable. We need to do the unexpected sometimes to unlock stubborn defences. I agree that Mullin and Roscoe too often end up in wide positions, but isn't this preferable to lumping the ball up to Mullin and seeing his flick-on invariably tidied up by their defence? Our best move yesterday stemmed from King running at them and finding Mullin at the back post. When we attack, we need to do so as a team, with everyone, regardless of their position on paper, being ready to support the man on the ball if necessary. This comes with confidence, but we were on the back foot from the opening minutes.

I'm not saying the performance was acceptable. Afterwards, for the first time this season, I asked my companions whether they could see us in another relegation battle. The game just didn't go our way, simple as, and we didn't play well enough on the day to turn it round. No need to slag everyone and everything, but yes, we do need to see an improvement.

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Dire ground? there's a lot worse in this league and you don't have to go far to see one. I agree the stewards are like nazis they seem intent on ruining the atmosphere and have thrown out so many home supporters this year that I'm surprised we have any left. Anyway I'm looking forward the the return fixture, it was a top day out last year, maybe it's the first class facilities that made it.