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I just wondered what people thought of Local Media coverage that we recieve at Stanley?

I am looking/trying to set up a weekly column with the local papers in Pendle, Burnley & the Ribble Valley, to include Match Reports, behind the scenes interviews basically everything Stanley and include Gold Bond Results etc. to cater for Stanley fans in these areas and maybe help generate interest in Stanley to a new audience. I am wondering if this idea would appeal to the Stanley Fans who live or work in these areas for a start?:)

This may come to nothing but unless you ask you don't get

Also comments on Media Coverage as a whole would be welcome as well

Thanks
Neil

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I will start, yesterday I had to put up with nearly 3 bloody hours of Morecambe FC c*** on BBC Radio Lancs, all because thier game against Grimsby was called off due to a frozen pitch!!!

They interviewd the Chief Exec,The Groundsman, gave coverage to their Football in the Community people and even had a Dingle on who took great delight in slagging Stanley fans:mad:

Why wont BBC Lancs cover Stanley, have we upset them?


Rant over (for now!!)

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I appreciate that I am far from impartial on this subject, but maybe I can contribute something to the thread. Possibly. I hope!

Basically, one of the main problems with our business (ie radio) is getting something fresh each hour (or every couple of hours for sports bulletins). We try very hard to have something Stanley related in those sports bulletins every day - and the day before a game, match day and the day after there is pretty much Stanley coverage every hour.

The point I'm trying to make is that the less frequent the deadlines then the easier this idea would be to carry through. So if Pendle Red (and I apologise if I'm misinterpreting what you are saying) is proposing a column in a weekly or twice weekly paper then theoretically it's possible. The problems are a) contributors and b) potential audience.

To deal with a) a while ago I appealed to fans on here and elsewhere for contributions to our sports output and got about half a dozen responses. This is NOT me having a go, but that wasn't enough for us to run it -with that in mind Google Page Ranking you'd need to be clear who was doing what - would the sports department at the paper be responsible for the content, or volunteers or the club?

And as far as b) goes, the simple (and unpalatable) fact is that editors will only go with something if they think it will boost the number of readers (or indeed listeners).

I'm not sure I answered any questions here, but hopefully helped a bit...

P.S: I would LOVE for us to be able to have huge, extensive and in depth Stanley coverage every day of the week, but it's simply a question of resources!

I hope that people enjoy what we can provide...

Dan

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Should go down well in the pubs in Whalley. ;)

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Hehehe Dan think we'd like more live coverages but alas cant be covering 2 at once & the bigger brother always wins :( LOL

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Are there not already columns in the Observer and Telegraph ?

The problem with the written media these days is that it is out of date before it gets printed due to the internet.

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:D:D:D:D:D:D

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not at Stanley :rolleyes:

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I think we get what we deserve on this side of Hapton. The Telegraph gives us whatever is appropriate on the back cover, Loweiys column, Jimmy's column, full page preview and centre double page spread match reports. Observer gives us three pages every issue and sometimes more.

2BR does what it can, and the other stations feature bits where ever it is needed.

What is needed is more input from the fans. There are 20 regular posters on here who could all use the phone in on monday night on Radio Morec... I mean Lancs.

Can you imagine the fun we could have with the Coley In Out In Out shake him all about programme?

Until everyone gets the message that we are all in some way responsible for the success or failure of our club then there is little hope of things improving in a big way.

Go for it Google Page Ranking -you can only be told no.

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Nice one. :)

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Careful Mr Dry Wit for a moment it looked as though you where congratulating macca for having a negative dig at the club, surely not.;):D:rolleyes:

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ah but smiley face makes it ironic rather than negative :rolleyes:

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Any extra publicity for the club has got to be a good thing- be it long term or short term. However, whilst I'm unaware whether Pendle Red has any official role within the club, It's my opinion ( which may be shared by others) that the hierarchy at this club have never grasped the full opportunity to promote the club properly since our elevation from the non- leagues and our Conference title winning season.

The local press have tried to accomodate. The L.E.T. has certainly expanded on Stanley coverage since our elevation to the Football League and more often than not contains a two page spread. The Observer has in recent years had extensive coverage (covering several pages) of the Red's fortunes with in depth match reports and match previews. However counter this with the somewhat "pedantic" stance taken by the club of banning officials speaking to the Observer in light of the recent "poll" (i.e. Has Coley taken A.S.F.C. as far as he can)and this action has probably damaged any ties the club has built with the local media. These ties will probably take sensitive repair work by both parties (i.e. the club and the Observer).

As for Local radio, it's good to see that 2BR has made a real effort to provide full match commentary when possible. However, whilst this is great when Stanley are away from home, I can't help feeling full match commentary has an effect on attendances when Stanley are home at the F.E.S. Radio Lancashire have in recent years improved on their coverage of Stanley to their credit. The fact that they seem to be covering Morecambe more this season probably has two reasons:

1) Morecambe are in their first season in the Football League and..

2) Morecambe are having a very successful first season in their first season.

That said, refer back to my opening paragraph of this post. Whilst the club has bemoaned the lack of home support / season ticket sales,it seems to me at least, that it's left to other parties to promote the club.Be it the local media, the O.S.C. or volunteers.:o

Admittedly I suppose the club is still on a learning curve on how to adapt to life as a Football League club. However, It's just MY opinion, I can't help but feel the club could be doing more to promote itself and make itself more appealing to the local public. Somewhere out there are something in the region of 1200 extra fans who came regularly in our Conference title winning season. There are probably more,who, with the right coaxing might just be tempted to get down to the F.E.S. and support the Reds.

Bearing all this in mind, one thing is clear. If nothing is done to address the current apathy that is being showed towards the club, then the club can just as easily slide back into non-league obscurity just as quickly as it propelled itself back into the Football League. One thing is for sure.... If the club and it's supporters continue to pull in the opposite direction then the club will get nowhere fast. If the club and it's supporters (be they the present loyal hardcore or the prospective "floating supporter" ) pull in the same direction then who knows what could be possible ??

Karma on it's way for your efforts Pendle Red and I wish you every success on your efforts.:D

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Thanks, I'll treasure that. :dry8:

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If we could get a dozen contributors we'd run a weekly fans feature...

[email protected] on the off chance that anybody's interested

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I like the Concept email sent:)

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count me in too Dan, but no email sent.

come on everyone, sign up to a regular feature

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Quite right Ukcowboy!. According to BBC Northwest Tonight television, it's still a case of "Accrington Stanley who are they?" on their sports highlights! We never get a mention.

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I'm up for it Dan...hmmm a female perspective eh??

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Two emails received, two others registering interest (I have PM-ed you folks!) but not a lot more in the way of interest...

...there's no problem if we can't get the interest. It was worth having a go at gauging it.

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I'd have a go at it Dan - although I'm not sure if i might have too biased an opinion at the moment :)

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opinions are good and they do change so everyone should get involved. Come on people, don't let the same few keep trying to push the club.

The more people involved, the more the difference in opinion, the more constructive debate goes on. Lets get ASFC in the face of the Burnley Pendle region.

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Heres our chance!:)
This is a great oppurtunity for Supporters to have their say and with a listenership of many Thousands it's a gilt edge chance to push the Club from a Supporters perspective and maybe help to shape things down the line:)

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The radio and press are only as good as the info they recieve... i have been bleating on about Google Page Ranking from the club but it's not forthcoming to the fishy so what chance do the media have.

If we wish to find out anything about our club rearranged fixtures etc most fans go on opposing team's web site's !! i recall one such issue when D&R had rearrange details on their site 3 days before it hit ASFC fishy.

We all have good idea's on this site and all for the GOOD of Stanley but do the club take note ?? thought not.. We need to wake up commercially and Google Page Ranking wise to put it blunt we are rubbish at both, the staff are doing their best i acknowledge that but we need to gamble get some commercial staff in, Lew did a good enough to be poached by Burnley and for the record fair play to him we all to better ourselves.

I live in Bury and they dont get as much press coverage as Stanley so it aint all bad.

We have got to stop being a Unibond outfit and become Football League quickly.

Gree

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So you would welcome one or two of this forums realists (or negative people as you like to think) to registar their interest? :rolleyes:

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I'd be all for it, wouldn't do if we all thought the same. ;)

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what we are allowed our own views ? bloody hell whats this forum coming to .

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Pushing this back up to the Top!:)

Dan how are we doing on this?

Come on folks get involved, have your say!:singer:

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Cheers Google Page Ranking - was just going to mention this again by starting a new thread, but you have saved me the bother!

So far I have just over half a dozen people interested, which is enough to do something for the Hereford game (which I will be sorting out on Thursday) but NOT enough to sustain a feature from now until the end of the season.

The format will be that "the panel" will give their views on one specific topic before each game (e.g this weekend - "have Stanley turned the corner?") then short segments of each person will be mixed together to make a package.

So, this is an appeal for more people to put themselves forward - it'll just be a small contribution once a week - email me [email protected] if you are interested.

And as for those I've already spoken to, I'll be in touch

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Cheers Dan

Sounds Good and gives us a voice!:)

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I suppose all who were going to take part in this have now got their message from Dan that it can't go ahead - apparently the powers that be have said no due to a) not having enough people and b) it being a potentially low audience.
Shame but at least Dan tried to give it a go - not his fault that his bosses have kyboshed the idea :(

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its a shame that only 6 people cared enough to have a go with him.:(

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I would have, but i work away Monday to Friday and have no internet access so i would only get any e-mails on a Friday night.

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The Newspaper idea was also deemed not worthy either!

I did give them the offer of a Competition to gauge public response but even that did not promt them to take it up

It is a shame because at the end of the day the bigger and wider audeience we can try to engage the more chance we have of increasing attendances and turnover

One positive I noticd yesterday was the increased number of kids at yesterdays game, that may have been down to the apperance of the academy and the two schools taking part in the match at half time but it is good to see!